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The Firing Line

12 Guage Recoil - What am I doing wrong?

Uploaded on January 02, 2010

Just bought a new Mossberg 88 (Maverick) 12 guage. Took it out yesterday and it is killing my shoulder. Bought what I thought were some light rounds for practice - Remington 2 3/4" 1 1/4 oz 6 shot. Also shot a mag of 00 Buckhot, but all were not fun. Reange I was on had me on the pistol range as I wasn't shooting clays, and they required me to shoot sitting - but wouldn't think that would make a difference. I'm not a big guy (5 10, 160), but in very good shape. Thought I had it well into my shoulder, but maybe not enough. Any advice is appreciated for a shotgun newbie. Also any advice on practice ammo would be appreciated as my wife also needs to get comfortable with this beast.

thanks

Mark

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from BigBboy25 wrote 2 years 5 weeks ago

I'd start by getting some lighter "practice" loads. Look at Estate target loads, 2 3/4" 7 1/2-8 shot 2 3/4 dram or 3 dram with 1 or 1 1/8 oz of shot. That will help a little. Second, I do not know what kind of recoil pad it has, but I always fit my shotguns with either a Pac-Meyer Decelerator or Limb Saver recoil pad, 1".. I'd suggest making that upgrade. Third, really suck that gun into your shoulder, sitting down is a little rougher on you I think, but it should not be unbearable. Hope some of this helps, good luck

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from BigBboy25 wrote 2 years 5 weeks ago

Oh sorry, forgot to mention, for your wife, google Mirage 12 gauge shells. They have the lightest 12 Ga. target loads available I've found, and work great for the 16 yard line in trap. Shot several 25's with them. They'll be in clear shell casings, sorry I can't give you more specific info, I don't ever buy them anymore and it's been too long since I bought them last to remember the details.

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from Sourdough Dave wrote 2 years 5 weeks ago

How well the gun fits you is important in felt recoil. Length of pull (the distance from butt to trigger) should be about the same as the distance from the tip of your index finger to the inside of your elbow. The rise of the comb should meet your cheek bone when your head is upright and your eye naturally sights along the barrel. Next is how you fit the gun. When your elbow is held out parallel with the ground your clavecal bone pulls back out of the way and your pectoral muscle rises up for padding and to create a pocket for the butt to rest firmly in. Body weight slightly forward to absorb recoil. Sitting at the pistol bench probably had you hunching forward which would rest the butt on the bone instead of the pocket, and I wouldn't doubt that for at least some of those shots that elbow was down resting on the bench instead of parallel to the ground. The whole point of a shotgun is versatility. You don't want to be restricted to just pooh butt loads. Try another shooting venue where you can use a proper stance.

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from Teodoro wrote 2 years 5 weeks ago

Also, as I recall, that model is a very light pump gun. You might consider making the gun heavier somehow (weights in the stock somewhere?) to lighten recoil.

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from 86Ram wrote 2 years 4 weeks ago

You might want to try limbsaver recoil pad... lighter loads as recommended.

They make barrel compensators for pistols I don't know if they do the same for shotguns but you could ask a gunsmith or Mossberg what they recommend

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from Sayfu wrote 2 years 3 weeks ago

Check a guns gun weight out....it is directly related to recoil. The heavier the gun, the less recoil. Only gas operated autos reduce recoil.
The lightest of loads are preferred for practice/trap. 1 Oz loads have demonstrated as good of performance as the heavier 1 1/8 oz. loads in 12 ga.
For hunting, the heavier hunting loads do not seem to be a problem for most shooters, as the excitement of the moment seems to dissipate the recoil effect.

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from WhitetailHunter706 wrote 2 years 3 weeks ago

mosbergs are a little lighter try adding wait and stand up it will make a bigger difference than you would think

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from MLH wrote 2 years 3 weeks ago

Definitely more felt recoil sitting at a bench, especially if the gun is mounted low and you have to hunch down to shoot it. Sitting and standing upright allows your body to move with and spread out the recoil force. Time to hit the clays course.

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from kevin45331 wrote 2 years 3 weeks ago

The mule kick is why I went to an autoloader. Remingtons gas operated 1187 is a sweet gun to shoot. We shoot alot an my buddys all called me an old man and a sissy because I couldn`t take the kick anymore. That was 3 years ago and now three of the four have autoloaders. The big sissys.

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from Sarge01 wrote 1 year 46 weeks ago

Using all the other advice that guys have given you remember to bring the gun up to your face and not your face down to the gun.
To seat the butt into your shoulder if you are right handed raise your right elbow up until it is at least the same height as your eyes when you look right at it. This will automatically seat the butt into the pocket.

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from jerry1958 wrote 1 year 43 weeks ago

I shoot a 12 2 3/4 and it doesnt hurt I am 5'11 150 and 13 also I shoot a 12 same length slugs but have a good recoil pad on that but before that it still didnt hurt but a couple years ago when I first started 2 3/4 20 hurt with birdshot and slugs gave me bruises so you will get used to it

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from ByeByeBambi wrote 1 year 43 weeks ago

I'm a little guy, 5'8" and 140lbs. I have a Mossy 835, shoot 3.5inch turkey and duck rounds all day long, I had my wife sew a Cabela's cloth recoil pad thing onto my turkey vest, it did quite a bit, but I realized I didn't really need it.

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from woodsmanj35 wrote 1 year 36 weeks ago

Get a slip on recoil pad and start with some light loads, I am sorry to admit that I have never shot a gun that had totally unbearable recoil so I'm afraid I really can't help much

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from Sourdough Dave wrote 2 years 5 weeks ago

How well the gun fits you is important in felt recoil. Length of pull (the distance from butt to trigger) should be about the same as the distance from the tip of your index finger to the inside of your elbow. The rise of the comb should meet your cheek bone when your head is upright and your eye naturally sights along the barrel. Next is how you fit the gun. When your elbow is held out parallel with the ground your clavecal bone pulls back out of the way and your pectoral muscle rises up for padding and to create a pocket for the butt to rest firmly in. Body weight slightly forward to absorb recoil. Sitting at the pistol bench probably had you hunching forward which would rest the butt on the bone instead of the pocket, and I wouldn't doubt that for at least some of those shots that elbow was down resting on the bench instead of parallel to the ground. The whole point of a shotgun is versatility. You don't want to be restricted to just pooh butt loads. Try another shooting venue where you can use a proper stance.

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from BigBboy25 wrote 2 years 5 weeks ago

I'd start by getting some lighter "practice" loads. Look at Estate target loads, 2 3/4" 7 1/2-8 shot 2 3/4 dram or 3 dram with 1 or 1 1/8 oz of shot. That will help a little. Second, I do not know what kind of recoil pad it has, but I always fit my shotguns with either a Pac-Meyer Decelerator or Limb Saver recoil pad, 1".. I'd suggest making that upgrade. Third, really suck that gun into your shoulder, sitting down is a little rougher on you I think, but it should not be unbearable. Hope some of this helps, good luck

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from BigBboy25 wrote 2 years 5 weeks ago

Oh sorry, forgot to mention, for your wife, google Mirage 12 gauge shells. They have the lightest 12 Ga. target loads available I've found, and work great for the 16 yard line in trap. Shot several 25's with them. They'll be in clear shell casings, sorry I can't give you more specific info, I don't ever buy them anymore and it's been too long since I bought them last to remember the details.

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from Teodoro wrote 2 years 5 weeks ago

Also, as I recall, that model is a very light pump gun. You might consider making the gun heavier somehow (weights in the stock somewhere?) to lighten recoil.

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from Sayfu wrote 2 years 3 weeks ago

Check a guns gun weight out....it is directly related to recoil. The heavier the gun, the less recoil. Only gas operated autos reduce recoil.
The lightest of loads are preferred for practice/trap. 1 Oz loads have demonstrated as good of performance as the heavier 1 1/8 oz. loads in 12 ga.
For hunting, the heavier hunting loads do not seem to be a problem for most shooters, as the excitement of the moment seems to dissipate the recoil effect.

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from MLH wrote 2 years 3 weeks ago

Definitely more felt recoil sitting at a bench, especially if the gun is mounted low and you have to hunch down to shoot it. Sitting and standing upright allows your body to move with and spread out the recoil force. Time to hit the clays course.

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from kevin45331 wrote 2 years 3 weeks ago

The mule kick is why I went to an autoloader. Remingtons gas operated 1187 is a sweet gun to shoot. We shoot alot an my buddys all called me an old man and a sissy because I couldn`t take the kick anymore. That was 3 years ago and now three of the four have autoloaders. The big sissys.

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from WhitetailHunter706 wrote 2 years 3 weeks ago

mosbergs are a little lighter try adding wait and stand up it will make a bigger difference than you would think

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from Sarge01 wrote 1 year 46 weeks ago

Using all the other advice that guys have given you remember to bring the gun up to your face and not your face down to the gun.
To seat the butt into your shoulder if you are right handed raise your right elbow up until it is at least the same height as your eyes when you look right at it. This will automatically seat the butt into the pocket.

+1 Good Comment? | | Report
from 86Ram wrote 2 years 4 weeks ago

You might want to try limbsaver recoil pad... lighter loads as recommended.

They make barrel compensators for pistols I don't know if they do the same for shotguns but you could ask a gunsmith or Mossberg what they recommend

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from jerry1958 wrote 1 year 43 weeks ago

I shoot a 12 2 3/4 and it doesnt hurt I am 5'11 150 and 13 also I shoot a 12 same length slugs but have a good recoil pad on that but before that it still didnt hurt but a couple years ago when I first started 2 3/4 20 hurt with birdshot and slugs gave me bruises so you will get used to it

0 Good Comment? | | Report
from ByeByeBambi wrote 1 year 43 weeks ago

I'm a little guy, 5'8" and 140lbs. I have a Mossy 835, shoot 3.5inch turkey and duck rounds all day long, I had my wife sew a Cabela's cloth recoil pad thing onto my turkey vest, it did quite a bit, but I realized I didn't really need it.

0 Good Comment? | | Report
from woodsmanj35 wrote 1 year 36 weeks ago

Get a slip on recoil pad and start with some light loads, I am sorry to admit that I have never shot a gun that had totally unbearable recoil so I'm afraid I really can't help much

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