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The Firing Line

Ammo Shortage?

Uploaded on February 05, 2009

For the past several months, Wally World has had little ammo in stock, and since the Inauguration, the little that existed disappeard. It is very alarming to know that I cannot go out and purchase ammo for my weapons. This is not a problem specific to Wal-Mart. All of the other sporting goods stores in my area are faced with the same dilema. Do any of you have any idea what is causing this shortage (it is not the war, the military gets most of it's ammo from Lake City, very little comes from commercial manufacturers.) and when we will be able to once again see full shelves of ammo?

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from AlaskanPride wrote 3 years 4 days ago

I noticed this at my local Sportsman's Warehouse last week. I looked at the rifle ammo shelf and there was barely anything. I will see again today when I buy ammo to itch my trigger finger.

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from doekiller wrote 3 years 3 days ago

Ammo, has dried up, and when you find it, the price is sky high, price was up $5 to $22 for 100 rd whitebox winchester in wally world in July 08. Now its around $28 if you can find it. Unreal.

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from kolbster wrote 3 years 3 days ago

everyone is stocking up on it, just incase they start banning stuff.

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from steve182 wrote 2 years 50 weeks ago

I've started buying it online. Natchezss.com, Midwayusa.com, cheaperthandirt.com. It is unlikely you will see stocked shelves like you're used to, or prices, in the near future. If you are buying more than a couple boxes the shipping charge doesn't kill you.

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from Carney wrote 2 years 49 weeks ago

Not only is ammo hard to get but nearly all reloading components also...

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from jerry k wrote 2 years 49 weeks ago

at one point it was so bad that the mere thought of asking the guy behind the counter if he had some pistol ammo would get you laughed at. my local sportmans warehouse has only recieved 2 pallets of merchandise for the entire store and that was a week and a half ago so ammo is definatly not the only thing affected.
the only guns they have left are 20 gauges and 22.s

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from New Age Bubba wrote 2 years 47 weeks ago

Well, finally we have a culprit, the Berine Madoff of the Ammo Shortage:

February 17, 2009

Bourjaily: Why I'm Not Buying a Black Rifle
Black rifles are selling faster than manufacturers can put them together right now. Partly out of fear of possible new gun laws, and partly just because, everybody is buying them – everybody but me and my friend Tommy Akin, a gentleman and duck hunter from Tennessee.

“The day I turned mine in I swore I’d never shoot one again,” says Tommy, who served as a forward observer in Vietnam.

Me, I can’t afford to feed a black rifle. They go through ammo the way the furnace in our drafty old farmhouse burned propane. As the gun manager at one local store told me: “People come in here and buy a new AR and one 20 round box of ammunition. I tell them, that box will last you two minutes. Buy more.”

Last weekend, because the weather warmed up a little and my friend Nathan had recently bought a S&W AR carbine, my son John and I met him at the range. I brought 100 rounds of ammo, Nathan had 50. We punched paper, broke a spinner target, then we made little snowmen and shot them. It took us an hour to go through all our ammo.

Shooting a black rifle is like eating Lays potato chips; you can’t stop. They are fun, accurate, don’t kick, and before you know it, you’ve sent $100 worth of ammunition downrange with a few twitches of your trigger finger. And that is why I’m not buying one.

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from s-kfry wrote 2 years 47 weeks ago

Re-loading supplies are also out of stock. A friend over the weekend could not find anything except some bulk ammo for his .45. No primers, nothing for .223, etc. It's all about the new administration.

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from schriscoe wrote 2 years 47 weeks ago

It is not just ammo, although I'm seeing that. Especially .380. Been especially blessed, so much so that I need a new (bigger) gun safe. Guess what? The big ol' Liberty Fatboy Jr I was drooling over is sold, and nowhere to get one before mid April. The safe dealer is scrambling to find inventory because a gun show is in town this weekend. No wonder I sold my old one on craigslist so fast.

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from vtbluegrass wrote 2 years 46 weeks ago

I actually saw someone trying to sell a 100rd boc of .380 Winchester white box for $70 on gunbroker. These people are smoking crack. Sure there is a shortage but there are also dealers out there that are acting in a manner that only exacerbates what we worry may happen in Washington. Some people are down right paranoid. I have a a feeling there is a black rifle/high cap bubble in the gun market. Spending on ammo and guns can only keep up at its current pace for awhile. I mean hell after the grand a piece black rifle and ammo its only time before gun owners are forced to slow down if not by running out of their expendable income then by angry spouses. I only have a set amount extra a month that can be spent on fun be that guns/hunting/fishing. If I had busted out the plastic as some of my friends did in Novemeber to make a large gun purchases I would only have enough now to pay it back. I imagine the same goes for others.I think by mid summer things will start to appear on shelves again.
As for those who think the war doesn't affect price of ammo you are sorely mistaken. Its the commodities needed for manufacture. Military contracts eat up more brass, copper, and lead commodities during war times than peace. This affect all who also buy these products. Also primer and powders we use are also used by the military CCI and hodgen have huge contracts with the governement. The prices should be coming down somewhat as the stock market is tanked but demand is not allowing this to happen. Also, if we can ever get out of middle east you will see alot of things back on the shelves. You will finally be able to feed your black rifle again without blowing a months pay.

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from huntcamp wrote 2 years 45 weeks ago

Obama Obama Obama. First chance he gets he will start trying to get rid of 2nd amendment

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from dsm54 wrote 2 years 45 weeks ago

Some of the stores are feeding into this panic.I'll be glad when things com down,there should be some good deals at garage sales from people who bought more ammo then they would shoot in a life time.

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from bukhunter wrote 2 years 17 weeks ago

Remember back in the 60s, gas was .20 to .25 cents per gallon, then along came the gas lines and extreme shortages. When the price sky rocketed then there was no shortage of gas. Maybe that is what is happening to the ammo. Seems like during this troubling economy and high unemployment, it would be a good business to go into.

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from Sourdough Dave wrote 2 years 7 weeks ago

Sort of scary isn't it? Right after the election I was in Wally World and there wasn't a single .270 win cartridge on the shelf, or much any other ammo either. So I decided to load some. There wasn't a single primer on the shelf. I bought the last two boxes of Hornady 130 grain bullets. All the stores were out. Finally supply is starting to catch up with demand. I don't think that was the change the folks had in mind.

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from kolbster wrote 3 years 3 days ago

everyone is stocking up on it, just incase they start banning stuff.

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from AlaskanPride wrote 3 years 4 days ago

I noticed this at my local Sportsman's Warehouse last week. I looked at the rifle ammo shelf and there was barely anything. I will see again today when I buy ammo to itch my trigger finger.

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from doekiller wrote 3 years 3 days ago

Ammo, has dried up, and when you find it, the price is sky high, price was up $5 to $22 for 100 rd whitebox winchester in wally world in July 08. Now its around $28 if you can find it. Unreal.

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from steve182 wrote 2 years 50 weeks ago

I've started buying it online. Natchezss.com, Midwayusa.com, cheaperthandirt.com. It is unlikely you will see stocked shelves like you're used to, or prices, in the near future. If you are buying more than a couple boxes the shipping charge doesn't kill you.

+1 Good Comment? | | Report
from Carney wrote 2 years 49 weeks ago

Not only is ammo hard to get but nearly all reloading components also...

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from jerry k wrote 2 years 49 weeks ago

at one point it was so bad that the mere thought of asking the guy behind the counter if he had some pistol ammo would get you laughed at. my local sportmans warehouse has only recieved 2 pallets of merchandise for the entire store and that was a week and a half ago so ammo is definatly not the only thing affected.
the only guns they have left are 20 gauges and 22.s

+1 Good Comment? | | Report
from New Age Bubba wrote 2 years 47 weeks ago

Well, finally we have a culprit, the Berine Madoff of the Ammo Shortage:

February 17, 2009

Bourjaily: Why I'm Not Buying a Black Rifle
Black rifles are selling faster than manufacturers can put them together right now. Partly out of fear of possible new gun laws, and partly just because, everybody is buying them – everybody but me and my friend Tommy Akin, a gentleman and duck hunter from Tennessee.

“The day I turned mine in I swore I’d never shoot one again,” says Tommy, who served as a forward observer in Vietnam.

Me, I can’t afford to feed a black rifle. They go through ammo the way the furnace in our drafty old farmhouse burned propane. As the gun manager at one local store told me: “People come in here and buy a new AR and one 20 round box of ammunition. I tell them, that box will last you two minutes. Buy more.”

Last weekend, because the weather warmed up a little and my friend Nathan had recently bought a S&W AR carbine, my son John and I met him at the range. I brought 100 rounds of ammo, Nathan had 50. We punched paper, broke a spinner target, then we made little snowmen and shot them. It took us an hour to go through all our ammo.

Shooting a black rifle is like eating Lays potato chips; you can’t stop. They are fun, accurate, don’t kick, and before you know it, you’ve sent $100 worth of ammunition downrange with a few twitches of your trigger finger. And that is why I’m not buying one.

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from s-kfry wrote 2 years 47 weeks ago

Re-loading supplies are also out of stock. A friend over the weekend could not find anything except some bulk ammo for his .45. No primers, nothing for .223, etc. It's all about the new administration.

+1 Good Comment? | | Report
from schriscoe wrote 2 years 47 weeks ago

It is not just ammo, although I'm seeing that. Especially .380. Been especially blessed, so much so that I need a new (bigger) gun safe. Guess what? The big ol' Liberty Fatboy Jr I was drooling over is sold, and nowhere to get one before mid April. The safe dealer is scrambling to find inventory because a gun show is in town this weekend. No wonder I sold my old one on craigslist so fast.

+1 Good Comment? | | Report
from vtbluegrass wrote 2 years 46 weeks ago

I actually saw someone trying to sell a 100rd boc of .380 Winchester white box for $70 on gunbroker. These people are smoking crack. Sure there is a shortage but there are also dealers out there that are acting in a manner that only exacerbates what we worry may happen in Washington. Some people are down right paranoid. I have a a feeling there is a black rifle/high cap bubble in the gun market. Spending on ammo and guns can only keep up at its current pace for awhile. I mean hell after the grand a piece black rifle and ammo its only time before gun owners are forced to slow down if not by running out of their expendable income then by angry spouses. I only have a set amount extra a month that can be spent on fun be that guns/hunting/fishing. If I had busted out the plastic as some of my friends did in Novemeber to make a large gun purchases I would only have enough now to pay it back. I imagine the same goes for others.I think by mid summer things will start to appear on shelves again.
As for those who think the war doesn't affect price of ammo you are sorely mistaken. Its the commodities needed for manufacture. Military contracts eat up more brass, copper, and lead commodities during war times than peace. This affect all who also buy these products. Also primer and powders we use are also used by the military CCI and hodgen have huge contracts with the governement. The prices should be coming down somewhat as the stock market is tanked but demand is not allowing this to happen. Also, if we can ever get out of middle east you will see alot of things back on the shelves. You will finally be able to feed your black rifle again without blowing a months pay.

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from huntcamp wrote 2 years 45 weeks ago

Obama Obama Obama. First chance he gets he will start trying to get rid of 2nd amendment

+1 Good Comment? | | Report
from dsm54 wrote 2 years 45 weeks ago

Some of the stores are feeding into this panic.I'll be glad when things com down,there should be some good deals at garage sales from people who bought more ammo then they would shoot in a life time.

+1 Good Comment? | | Report
from bukhunter wrote 2 years 17 weeks ago

Remember back in the 60s, gas was .20 to .25 cents per gallon, then along came the gas lines and extreme shortages. When the price sky rocketed then there was no shortage of gas. Maybe that is what is happening to the ammo. Seems like during this troubling economy and high unemployment, it would be a good business to go into.

+1 Good Comment? | | Report
from Sourdough Dave wrote 2 years 7 weeks ago

Sort of scary isn't it? Right after the election I was in Wally World and there wasn't a single .270 win cartridge on the shelf, or much any other ammo either. So I decided to load some. There wasn't a single primer on the shelf. I bought the last two boxes of Hornady 130 grain bullets. All the stores were out. Finally supply is starting to catch up with demand. I don't think that was the change the folks had in mind.

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