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Reloading for a Marlin .30-30

Uploaded on September 03, 2010

I'm thinking about working up a .30-30 Win. load for a Marlin 336 with a 170 grain bullet. I've used 150's for years but am interested in seeing what the gun prefers. I used to use the old Nosler Solid Base in a Savage bolt gun years ago and they worked pretty well, but I don't think they're around anymore. Any experience or suggestions for a good 170 grain bullet or load for this round and rifle? Thanks and good shooting.

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from FirstBubba wrote 3 years 32 weeks ago

Was hoping somebody else would jump in and give you some assistance.
Make no mistake, I ain't no P.O. Ackley, ok?
From your question you are aware of the "pointy bullet" problem with the .30-30 Win with tubular magazines? RIGHT?
Other than that....
I know that Mossberg built a clip fed, bolt action .30-30 Win at one time. After I started reloading, I often wondered just what kind of loads you could work up for it?
How about a .30-30 Win with a 90gr carbine bullet at near 3000fps out of the muzzle!?
The .30-30 is so compromised with the 170's, I'd be more interested with lighter bullets.
Also, the fact that factory ammo is so downloaded so I-dot's can shoot them in antiques....

Bubba

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from Cgull wrote 3 years 32 weeks ago

Take a look at Hornady's Flex tip bullets. If I were to load 30 30 rounds, I'd sure be using these.

http://www.hornady.com/store/FTX

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from Clay Cooper wrote 3 years 32 weeks ago

Cgull is right, first of all 170's are to heavy for deer but those new Hornady Flex TipĀ® just might be the ticket!

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from Clay Cooper wrote 3 years 32 weeks ago

By the way, Sierra Stock Code: 2020 .308 dia. (.30-30) 125 gr. HP/FN, loaded with IMR4895 is a sweat heart of a load!

https://www.sierrabullets.com/index.cfm?section=store&page=item&stock_nu...

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from crm3006 wrote 3 years 32 weeks ago

I've been wanting to try the Hornady Flex tip bullets. I understand they are a 160 gr. load. My pre-64 .30 WCF prefers the 170s to the 150 gr. loads, but I am curious to see if the 160s will shoot accurately.

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from 007 wrote 3 years 32 weeks ago

Thanks guys, yes, I'm aware of the issues with spitzers in a tube feed so this load with be round or flat points. I've played with 125-130 grain spitzers in a clip fed Savage 840, they're decent on groundhogs, not much for deer. It did fairly well tho with the aforementioned 170 grain Noslers but due to the weaker action had to use a mild handload. I've got an old magazine article somewhere where an older Remington 788 was used to build a workable but faster .30-30 load. It was knocking on the door of a .300 Savage but all conditions had to be perfect and the .30-30 case, like the .45 LC, isn't the strongest thing out there. All that aside tho, it's still interesting to play with. Clay, why do you think 170's are too heavy for deer? If this was an '06 with 180's and greater bullet speed then I'd agree but it seems to me that a slower 170 is still pretty good deer medicine.

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from FirstBubba wrote 3 years 32 weeks ago

I think he's refering to the fact that at .30-30 velocities, the 170 probably isn't going to open up as well.
Kinda off the thread, but I shoot a T/C .54 Renegade with 90gr FFFg and a 240gr .429 flat nose (not soft point) bullet in a sabot. No deer I've punched in the lungs/heart has made it out of sight of where they were standing with little or no meat damage. I figure the 170 would have about the same effect.

Bubba

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from 007 wrote 3 years 32 weeks ago

You might find this a bit goofy but I offer a similar analogy. We handload 150 grain ballistic tips in a 14" T/C .30-30 and a 10" T/C .30 Herret and I think the slower velocities makes the B/T perform quite well on white tails, not as destructive as a bigger, faster round, so I concur with your thoughts.

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from FirstBubba wrote 3 years 31 weeks ago

OH CRIMINY, 007!! DOES THIS MEAN WHAT I THINK IT MEANS!!?
You think we're such great minds that maybe we could "boggle" Coop?! HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

Actually, 007, I've considered using my ol Renegade during the rifle season. Mainly so I did not tear up as much meat. Another reason I've backed off a bit on my .270 loads. Still kill 'em dead, just not "tore up dead!"

Bubba

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from SJM918 wrote 2 years 31 weeks ago

I hear some talk about how much the 30-30 and the 7.63x39 are alike , please stay with me , so if your looking for a flat shooter , and you understand that it is velocity that kills with small boar rifles , maybe try necking now to 6.5mm or 6.8mm, this could make your Win or Marlin shoot like a 30-06 , so I hear

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from platte river rat wrote 2 years 31 weeks ago

I have an old Marlin 336C with a 24 in barrel that I reload with the Hornady FTX 160 gr bullet. I use Hodgdon Leverevolution powder, winchester brass and a winchester large rifle primer. I get right at 2400 fps out of my gun and 1 in at 100yds. Haven't shot any deer with it but a couple of coyotes, just love to shoot my old gun. I have an old Weaver 2.5 X scope mounted which helps my old eyes. I like the Marlin lever guns as you can easily take out the bolts and clean from the breech end. This really helps with the micro-grove rifling.

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from FirstBubba wrote 3 years 32 weeks ago

Was hoping somebody else would jump in and give you some assistance.
Make no mistake, I ain't no P.O. Ackley, ok?
From your question you are aware of the "pointy bullet" problem with the .30-30 Win with tubular magazines? RIGHT?
Other than that....
I know that Mossberg built a clip fed, bolt action .30-30 Win at one time. After I started reloading, I often wondered just what kind of loads you could work up for it?
How about a .30-30 Win with a 90gr carbine bullet at near 3000fps out of the muzzle!?
The .30-30 is so compromised with the 170's, I'd be more interested with lighter bullets.
Also, the fact that factory ammo is so downloaded so I-dot's can shoot them in antiques....

Bubba

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from Cgull wrote 3 years 32 weeks ago

Take a look at Hornady's Flex tip bullets. If I were to load 30 30 rounds, I'd sure be using these.

http://www.hornady.com/store/FTX

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from Clay Cooper wrote 3 years 32 weeks ago

Cgull is right, first of all 170's are to heavy for deer but those new Hornady Flex TipĀ® just might be the ticket!

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from Clay Cooper wrote 3 years 32 weeks ago

By the way, Sierra Stock Code: 2020 .308 dia. (.30-30) 125 gr. HP/FN, loaded with IMR4895 is a sweat heart of a load!

https://www.sierrabullets.com/index.cfm?section=store&page=item&stock_nu...

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from crm3006 wrote 3 years 32 weeks ago

I've been wanting to try the Hornady Flex tip bullets. I understand they are a 160 gr. load. My pre-64 .30 WCF prefers the 170s to the 150 gr. loads, but I am curious to see if the 160s will shoot accurately.

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from 007 wrote 3 years 32 weeks ago

Thanks guys, yes, I'm aware of the issues with spitzers in a tube feed so this load with be round or flat points. I've played with 125-130 grain spitzers in a clip fed Savage 840, they're decent on groundhogs, not much for deer. It did fairly well tho with the aforementioned 170 grain Noslers but due to the weaker action had to use a mild handload. I've got an old magazine article somewhere where an older Remington 788 was used to build a workable but faster .30-30 load. It was knocking on the door of a .300 Savage but all conditions had to be perfect and the .30-30 case, like the .45 LC, isn't the strongest thing out there. All that aside tho, it's still interesting to play with. Clay, why do you think 170's are too heavy for deer? If this was an '06 with 180's and greater bullet speed then I'd agree but it seems to me that a slower 170 is still pretty good deer medicine.

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from FirstBubba wrote 3 years 32 weeks ago

I think he's refering to the fact that at .30-30 velocities, the 170 probably isn't going to open up as well.
Kinda off the thread, but I shoot a T/C .54 Renegade with 90gr FFFg and a 240gr .429 flat nose (not soft point) bullet in a sabot. No deer I've punched in the lungs/heart has made it out of sight of where they were standing with little or no meat damage. I figure the 170 would have about the same effect.

Bubba

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from 007 wrote 3 years 32 weeks ago

You might find this a bit goofy but I offer a similar analogy. We handload 150 grain ballistic tips in a 14" T/C .30-30 and a 10" T/C .30 Herret and I think the slower velocities makes the B/T perform quite well on white tails, not as destructive as a bigger, faster round, so I concur with your thoughts.

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from FirstBubba wrote 3 years 31 weeks ago

OH CRIMINY, 007!! DOES THIS MEAN WHAT I THINK IT MEANS!!?
You think we're such great minds that maybe we could "boggle" Coop?! HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

Actually, 007, I've considered using my ol Renegade during the rifle season. Mainly so I did not tear up as much meat. Another reason I've backed off a bit on my .270 loads. Still kill 'em dead, just not "tore up dead!"

Bubba

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from SJM918 wrote 2 years 31 weeks ago

I hear some talk about how much the 30-30 and the 7.63x39 are alike , please stay with me , so if your looking for a flat shooter , and you understand that it is velocity that kills with small boar rifles , maybe try necking now to 6.5mm or 6.8mm, this could make your Win or Marlin shoot like a 30-06 , so I hear

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from platte river rat wrote 2 years 31 weeks ago

I have an old Marlin 336C with a 24 in barrel that I reload with the Hornady FTX 160 gr bullet. I use Hodgdon Leverevolution powder, winchester brass and a winchester large rifle primer. I get right at 2400 fps out of my gun and 1 in at 100yds. Haven't shot any deer with it but a couple of coyotes, just love to shoot my old gun. I have an old Weaver 2.5 X scope mounted which helps my old eyes. I like the Marlin lever guns as you can easily take out the bolts and clean from the breech end. This really helps with the micro-grove rifling.

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