Any one got a suggestion for a begginning Steelheader?
Uploaded on January 14, 2009
I found a stream near me that has some Steelhead in it, but I can't seem to get them to hit my stuff... anyone got a good fly suggestion for a beginner?
I would suggest going with a guide in your area for at least one time. This may provide you with a better opportunity to get your first steelhead, and you will learn what works in your area. Good luck in your fishing. I have been trying for about five years, and have caught 1 fish (not counting the half pounders). Living in an area that has a natural run is a huge advantage. I have to travel, so I am largely dependent upon the weather when I have got the time off. So far, I have been either too dry or too wet, and have not found the ideal conditions.
Yes, take up golf instead. Steelheading will make you crazy... I speak from experience. Seriously, if in the Great Lakes, I'd use a Wiggler, and in the NW, I'd go with a Muddler. The guide suggestion is smart.
Thanks guys, Deeter, I'm willing to go that far, already got one on a spinning rod on a fake egg cluster, ( Dirty tactic, I know.)
and it was amazingly fun, now i want one on my eight wt fly rod.
Yea, I played golf Deeter, I suck, I can slam the ball 200yds but I cant putt for my life. I just have some free time today and am thinking of spinning up some flys.
Aw, jeez, now that I know it's you Alex, I'll tell you what to really use. From your split shot... drop 12 inches of 2X, tie on a wiggler or a bloack leech, or a black bugger, attach another foot of 2X to the hook shank, then tie on a glo bug (egg) blue is good, but for where you live, peach or cream or a combo of both is better. Beads are a sin -- I can see Cermele and I will be competing for your soul... I'll be the guy in the white robe on your left shoulder, Cermele, the red one on the right... as we get you more into flyfishing.
Hell, I'm almost all fly fishing now, couldn't hook one on a fly so a friend handed me my spinning rod rigged with an egg cluster, and I hooked one. (I fish salmon on lake Michigan so I have a 10 foot Steelhead rod for chucking spoons.(once again a horrible sin to fly fishing.))
Gosh, I feel like im spamming, but Deeter, don't lie, you spin fish, and most likely more than me, I'm not a purist yet, and you are not either, you chuck streamers, purists in my mind throw drys and only drys, day in and day out. I can't do that, smallies don't like May flys...
Nah... Joe and I are good buddies. He's just a saltie at heart... stepping off, with aplomb, I might add, into the sacred church of trout on the fly. The dude can flat-out fish with the long rod. He's great. And Alex... hate to burst your bubble, but I fish "gear" maybe three or four times a year, tops, and just for giggles. Thing is, I was born and raised with the fly rod, and nobody's shown me a fish I can't catch (yet) the other way. Okay, I'm a streamer junkie. I'll admit it. But as for the "dry or die" mindset... BS. Dries are great, but that's a 2-D game. The real fly angler can bring it, no matter what the situation. Follow?
Yea, I fish gear like, 20 times a year if im salmon fishing, if not that none at all, the only reason i salmon fish with a spinning rod is that I cant afford 400+ dollars of a two handed spey rod, so I can't fish harbors (Ex. Kenosha, Montrose...) as a nine foot 8 wt doesn't have the "reach"...
I'm in Oregon and have spent a considerable time fishing steelies. Most of my experience has come from drift fishing. I have found that it takes more than what you have on the end of your line to catch one. This sport takes time and practice. In the same day I have caught them on just a hook and corkie, fly and a corkie, and yarn and a corkie. My belief is that they bite out of agression or curiosity, so placement is very important (that is you need to almost hit them in the face with it). One fly that has never failed me is the spruce fly. But then again, these fish are picky and their tastes change. Every year they like a new color or setup. So it takes time to find what works and to get a feel for the river.
Thanks guys, finally got warm enough to don the gear and try for a few hours, hooked and promptly lost a smaller one on a black bugger, then proceeded to have all my guides freeze, and the wind get to me so I gave up, had fun though.
I'm also here in Oregon. It took me three years of fishing three times a week before I landed my first steelhead. That day I caught four of them. Drift fishing is the best way to go, in my opinion. pencil lead, 4'leader. size 4 gamakatsu hook tied with an egg loop knot just a little red yarn through the loop and the smallest peach colored corkie you can get. Thats how we catch them around here.... Or a slip bobber and a very small maribou jig or fresh roe...But that technique is way to boring...
Don't forget the lead. You catch a lot more fish (and snags) if your near the bottom. A lot of fly guys suspend there fly with float indicators to keep them off the bottom. Either way, if it takes a cannon ball to get to the fish then tie one on.
I would suggest going with a guide in your area for at least one time. This may provide you with a better opportunity to get your first steelhead, and you will learn what works in your area. Good luck in your fishing. I have been trying for about five years, and have caught 1 fish (not counting the half pounders). Living in an area that has a natural run is a huge advantage. I have to travel, so I am largely dependent upon the weather when I have got the time off. So far, I have been either too dry or too wet, and have not found the ideal conditions.
Yes, take up golf instead. Steelheading will make you crazy... I speak from experience. Seriously, if in the Great Lakes, I'd use a Wiggler, and in the NW, I'd go with a Muddler. The guide suggestion is smart.
Thanks guys, Deeter, I'm willing to go that far, already got one on a spinning rod on a fake egg cluster, ( Dirty tactic, I know.)
and it was amazingly fun, now i want one on my eight wt fly rod.
Yea, I played golf Deeter, I suck, I can slam the ball 200yds but I cant putt for my life. I just have some free time today and am thinking of spinning up some flys.
Aw, jeez, now that I know it's you Alex, I'll tell you what to really use. From your split shot... drop 12 inches of 2X, tie on a wiggler or a bloack leech, or a black bugger, attach another foot of 2X to the hook shank, then tie on a glo bug (egg) blue is good, but for where you live, peach or cream or a combo of both is better. Beads are a sin -- I can see Cermele and I will be competing for your soul... I'll be the guy in the white robe on your left shoulder, Cermele, the red one on the right... as we get you more into flyfishing.
Hell, I'm almost all fly fishing now, couldn't hook one on a fly so a friend handed me my spinning rod rigged with an egg cluster, and I hooked one. (I fish salmon on lake Michigan so I have a 10 foot Steelhead rod for chucking spoons.(once again a horrible sin to fly fishing.))
Gosh, I feel like im spamming, but Deeter, don't lie, you spin fish, and most likely more than me, I'm not a purist yet, and you are not either, you chuck streamers, purists in my mind throw drys and only drys, day in and day out. I can't do that, smallies don't like May flys...
Nah... Joe and I are good buddies. He's just a saltie at heart... stepping off, with aplomb, I might add, into the sacred church of trout on the fly. The dude can flat-out fish with the long rod. He's great. And Alex... hate to burst your bubble, but I fish "gear" maybe three or four times a year, tops, and just for giggles. Thing is, I was born and raised with the fly rod, and nobody's shown me a fish I can't catch (yet) the other way. Okay, I'm a streamer junkie. I'll admit it. But as for the "dry or die" mindset... BS. Dries are great, but that's a 2-D game. The real fly angler can bring it, no matter what the situation. Follow?
Yea, I fish gear like, 20 times a year if im salmon fishing, if not that none at all, the only reason i salmon fish with a spinning rod is that I cant afford 400+ dollars of a two handed spey rod, so I can't fish harbors (Ex. Kenosha, Montrose...) as a nine foot 8 wt doesn't have the "reach"...
I'm in Oregon and have spent a considerable time fishing steelies. Most of my experience has come from drift fishing. I have found that it takes more than what you have on the end of your line to catch one. This sport takes time and practice. In the same day I have caught them on just a hook and corkie, fly and a corkie, and yarn and a corkie. My belief is that they bite out of agression or curiosity, so placement is very important (that is you need to almost hit them in the face with it). One fly that has never failed me is the spruce fly. But then again, these fish are picky and their tastes change. Every year they like a new color or setup. So it takes time to find what works and to get a feel for the river.
Thanks guys, finally got warm enough to don the gear and try for a few hours, hooked and promptly lost a smaller one on a black bugger, then proceeded to have all my guides freeze, and the wind get to me so I gave up, had fun though.
I'm also here in Oregon. It took me three years of fishing three times a week before I landed my first steelhead. That day I caught four of them. Drift fishing is the best way to go, in my opinion. pencil lead, 4'leader. size 4 gamakatsu hook tied with an egg loop knot just a little red yarn through the loop and the smallest peach colored corkie you can get. Thats how we catch them around here.... Or a slip bobber and a very small maribou jig or fresh roe...But that technique is way to boring...
Don't forget the lead. You catch a lot more fish (and snags) if your near the bottom. A lot of fly guys suspend there fly with float indicators to keep them off the bottom. Either way, if it takes a cannon ball to get to the fish then tie one on.
You try egg beads? I've actually heard steelies like blue beads, at least the Alaskan steelies. Check out www.troutbeads.com
I would suggest going with a guide in your area for at least one time. This may provide you with a better opportunity to get your first steelhead, and you will learn what works in your area. Good luck in your fishing. I have been trying for about five years, and have caught 1 fish (not counting the half pounders). Living in an area that has a natural run is a huge advantage. I have to travel, so I am largely dependent upon the weather when I have got the time off. So far, I have been either too dry or too wet, and have not found the ideal conditions.
Yes, take up golf instead. Steelheading will make you crazy... I speak from experience. Seriously, if in the Great Lakes, I'd use a Wiggler, and in the NW, I'd go with a Muddler. The guide suggestion is smart.
Thanks guys, Deeter, I'm willing to go that far, already got one on a spinning rod on a fake egg cluster, ( Dirty tactic, I know.)
and it was amazingly fun, now i want one on my eight wt fly rod.
Yea, I played golf Deeter, I suck, I can slam the ball 200yds but I cant putt for my life. I just have some free time today and am thinking of spinning up some flys.
Hey Joe, thanks for the help, Ill try that.
Aw, jeez, now that I know it's you Alex, I'll tell you what to really use. From your split shot... drop 12 inches of 2X, tie on a wiggler or a bloack leech, or a black bugger, attach another foot of 2X to the hook shank, then tie on a glo bug (egg) blue is good, but for where you live, peach or cream or a combo of both is better. Beads are a sin -- I can see Cermele and I will be competing for your soul... I'll be the guy in the white robe on your left shoulder, Cermele, the red one on the right... as we get you more into flyfishing.
Hell, I'm almost all fly fishing now, couldn't hook one on a fly so a friend handed me my spinning rod rigged with an egg cluster, and I hooked one. (I fish salmon on lake Michigan so I have a 10 foot Steelhead rod for chucking spoons.(once again a horrible sin to fly fishing.))
And I'm getting a hint Deeter is not the best of fishing buddies with Joe...
Gosh, I feel like im spamming, but Deeter, don't lie, you spin fish, and most likely more than me, I'm not a purist yet, and you are not either, you chuck streamers, purists in my mind throw drys and only drys, day in and day out. I can't do that, smallies don't like May flys...
Nah... Joe and I are good buddies. He's just a saltie at heart... stepping off, with aplomb, I might add, into the sacred church of trout on the fly. The dude can flat-out fish with the long rod. He's great. And Alex... hate to burst your bubble, but I fish "gear" maybe three or four times a year, tops, and just for giggles. Thing is, I was born and raised with the fly rod, and nobody's shown me a fish I can't catch (yet) the other way. Okay, I'm a streamer junkie. I'll admit it. But as for the "dry or die" mindset... BS. Dries are great, but that's a 2-D game. The real fly angler can bring it, no matter what the situation. Follow?
Yea, I fish gear like, 20 times a year if im salmon fishing, if not that none at all, the only reason i salmon fish with a spinning rod is that I cant afford 400+ dollars of a two handed spey rod, so I can't fish harbors (Ex. Kenosha, Montrose...) as a nine foot 8 wt doesn't have the "reach"...
I'm in Oregon and have spent a considerable time fishing steelies. Most of my experience has come from drift fishing. I have found that it takes more than what you have on the end of your line to catch one. This sport takes time and practice. In the same day I have caught them on just a hook and corkie, fly and a corkie, and yarn and a corkie. My belief is that they bite out of agression or curiosity, so placement is very important (that is you need to almost hit them in the face with it). One fly that has never failed me is the spruce fly. But then again, these fish are picky and their tastes change. Every year they like a new color or setup. So it takes time to find what works and to get a feel for the river.
Thanks guys, finally got warm enough to don the gear and try for a few hours, hooked and promptly lost a smaller one on a black bugger, then proceeded to have all my guides freeze, and the wind get to me so I gave up, had fun though.
I'm also here in Oregon. It took me three years of fishing three times a week before I landed my first steelhead. That day I caught four of them. Drift fishing is the best way to go, in my opinion. pencil lead, 4'leader. size 4 gamakatsu hook tied with an egg loop knot just a little red yarn through the loop and the smallest peach colored corkie you can get. Thats how we catch them around here.... Or a slip bobber and a very small maribou jig or fresh roe...But that technique is way to boring...
Don't forget the lead. You catch a lot more fish (and snags) if your near the bottom. A lot of fly guys suspend there fly with float indicators to keep them off the bottom. Either way, if it takes a cannon ball to get to the fish then tie one on.
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I would suggest going with a guide in your area for at least one time. This may provide you with a better opportunity to get your first steelhead, and you will learn what works in your area. Good luck in your fishing. I have been trying for about five years, and have caught 1 fish (not counting the half pounders). Living in an area that has a natural run is a huge advantage. I have to travel, so I am largely dependent upon the weather when I have got the time off. So far, I have been either too dry or too wet, and have not found the ideal conditions.
Yes, take up golf instead. Steelheading will make you crazy... I speak from experience. Seriously, if in the Great Lakes, I'd use a Wiggler, and in the NW, I'd go with a Muddler. The guide suggestion is smart.
Thanks guys, Deeter, I'm willing to go that far, already got one on a spinning rod on a fake egg cluster, ( Dirty tactic, I know.)
and it was amazingly fun, now i want one on my eight wt fly rod.
Yea, I played golf Deeter, I suck, I can slam the ball 200yds but I cant putt for my life. I just have some free time today and am thinking of spinning up some flys.
Hey Joe, thanks for the help, Ill try that.
Aw, jeez, now that I know it's you Alex, I'll tell you what to really use. From your split shot... drop 12 inches of 2X, tie on a wiggler or a bloack leech, or a black bugger, attach another foot of 2X to the hook shank, then tie on a glo bug (egg) blue is good, but for where you live, peach or cream or a combo of both is better. Beads are a sin -- I can see Cermele and I will be competing for your soul... I'll be the guy in the white robe on your left shoulder, Cermele, the red one on the right... as we get you more into flyfishing.
Hell, I'm almost all fly fishing now, couldn't hook one on a fly so a friend handed me my spinning rod rigged with an egg cluster, and I hooked one. (I fish salmon on lake Michigan so I have a 10 foot Steelhead rod for chucking spoons.(once again a horrible sin to fly fishing.))
And I'm getting a hint Deeter is not the best of fishing buddies with Joe...
Gosh, I feel like im spamming, but Deeter, don't lie, you spin fish, and most likely more than me, I'm not a purist yet, and you are not either, you chuck streamers, purists in my mind throw drys and only drys, day in and day out. I can't do that, smallies don't like May flys...
Nah... Joe and I are good buddies. He's just a saltie at heart... stepping off, with aplomb, I might add, into the sacred church of trout on the fly. The dude can flat-out fish with the long rod. He's great. And Alex... hate to burst your bubble, but I fish "gear" maybe three or four times a year, tops, and just for giggles. Thing is, I was born and raised with the fly rod, and nobody's shown me a fish I can't catch (yet) the other way. Okay, I'm a streamer junkie. I'll admit it. But as for the "dry or die" mindset... BS. Dries are great, but that's a 2-D game. The real fly angler can bring it, no matter what the situation. Follow?
Yea, I fish gear like, 20 times a year if im salmon fishing, if not that none at all, the only reason i salmon fish with a spinning rod is that I cant afford 400+ dollars of a two handed spey rod, so I can't fish harbors (Ex. Kenosha, Montrose...) as a nine foot 8 wt doesn't have the "reach"...
I'm in Oregon and have spent a considerable time fishing steelies. Most of my experience has come from drift fishing. I have found that it takes more than what you have on the end of your line to catch one. This sport takes time and practice. In the same day I have caught them on just a hook and corkie, fly and a corkie, and yarn and a corkie. My belief is that they bite out of agression or curiosity, so placement is very important (that is you need to almost hit them in the face with it). One fly that has never failed me is the spruce fly. But then again, these fish are picky and their tastes change. Every year they like a new color or setup. So it takes time to find what works and to get a feel for the river.
Thanks guys, finally got warm enough to don the gear and try for a few hours, hooked and promptly lost a smaller one on a black bugger, then proceeded to have all my guides freeze, and the wind get to me so I gave up, had fun though.
You try egg beads? I've actually heard steelies like blue beads, at least the Alaskan steelies. Check out www.troutbeads.com
I'm also here in Oregon. It took me three years of fishing three times a week before I landed my first steelhead. That day I caught four of them. Drift fishing is the best way to go, in my opinion. pencil lead, 4'leader. size 4 gamakatsu hook tied with an egg loop knot just a little red yarn through the loop and the smallest peach colored corkie you can get. Thats how we catch them around here.... Or a slip bobber and a very small maribou jig or fresh roe...But that technique is way to boring...
Don't forget the lead. You catch a lot more fish (and snags) if your near the bottom. A lot of fly guys suspend there fly with float indicators to keep them off the bottom. Either way, if it takes a cannon ball to get to the fish then tie one on.
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