I just read the bill as written for the state of Missouri. What a crock. The only way to tell if a bullet has been properly encoded and in compliance with the law is to pull each one from the casing and inspect the base of the bullet.
I have serious doubts if the lawmakers will even hear this piece, hopefully just let it sit and die.

Will just have to fight this off in South Carolina.

i support obama because hes our presidents i just dont get why its ok for him to have us pay for the secret service to protect him but we cant even have the ammo to protect ourselves

Yeah, I heard something similar to that. Certain firearms will also stop being sold as well ie. AR-15, Ruger mini 14, and pretty much any semi-auto shotgun. I just e-mailed my Alaska Congressman today. I am in the military and I think it sucks. Being stationed in Illinois I must use my FOID (Fire Arms Identification card)just to purchase ammo.

if this was true our ammo manufactures would be the next in line for a bale out. the machines alone would take at lease a year to make and a 1/2 a year to get the ammo to the store.

this is pretty scary, I'm glad the states I hunt in aren't on here but if 1 starts it the rest will probably eventually follow.

I think that's a bunch of crap. The president should not have any rights to do that to us hunters. He Better not try and take away our guns to.

I think this will get smashed before it really goes anywhere. There are too many people that will oppose this legislation to let it get that far.

At least i hope it does not get that far

Too many people will oppose it and eventually it will get over-powered. (hopefully)

If these bills go through it will be because of voter apathy. Don't ever let your thinking resolve to what happened in the past. We're facing a whole new challange by anti's everywhere and the movement to eliminate our weapons is going hard and fast. Let your legislators know what you think. Rest assured, the anti's are pounding their phone lines and mail boxes with their agenda. Every gun owner and hunter should be joining the NRA to give us strength in numbers. Don't leave it on the back of your buddies that belong to the NRA to continue the fight for your rights. We all need to help if we are to be successful in these major battles with the anti's.

I can see it now; remember back during Clinton when the ATF were doing 3am raids on law abiding citizens. It’s going to start all over again, ATF busting into your house and putting your kids at gun point. And they have the edacity to say are troops were wrong. Remember Ruby Ridge over a shotgun that was a ¼ of an inch to short. Is it worth flying an RF-4 over doing recon mission of your house and snipers shooting your wife!

this is bull spit. its rediculous

welcome to canada..
everytime i go to buy ammunition it is recorded, i don't see a problem with it.

i obama. but montana doesnt have that bill so they kiss my ass

As if a criminal is going to use coded ammo. They will get uncoded, or file off the #'s. Same with making it to where your gun stamps primers or cases when fired, would take a criminal about 2 second to undo with a Dremil tool. These politicians need to fix the real problems in this country, instead of inventing other agendas inorder to avoid dealing with the real problems. Glad I live in Idaho, don't know how you guys can stand to live in the big brother socialist states.

This is the most ludicrous piece of (excrement) legislation I've ever heard of.This will do for ammo what prohibition did for alcohol.This will do nothing to stop a crime.And I also heard that by 2011 all uncoded ammo must be destroyed.What are they going to do go house to house to see if everyone is complying with the law?Don't get me wrong,my heart goes out to all victims of gun crime,but this will do little to nothing because if a criminal steals a gun,they can just as easily steal the ammo.This will only burden everyone with additional costs in a already tough economy.

Oh, and do they plan on numbering shotgun pellets too? Or will they become as "bad" as semi or full auto weapons? Are you catching the sarcasm and spite? I think our politicians are crocks!

Problem is, they think they can control crime by doing this, the thing is, gangs buy form illegale sources, so all its doing is pulling things from people that deserve to have them.

I filled out my TAG poll and will be mailing it tomorrow. So should any other NRA members and anyone else should think about joining.

I returned to this article just to see what the postings were saying. To the lady in Canada, you've already lost the right to have a hand gun. In addition, this bill doesn't just make someone sign for the purchase of ammo but requires you to purchase an additional annual license based on your past mental and medical conditions. In addition it requires that each box of ammo have serial numbers on the bullet and casing that are uniquely different from the each box purchased. Can you imagine what the costs will be to produce this rediculous cause in effect? This will allow a very limited amount of ammo to be purchased by an individual and will also eliminate reloading ammo altogether.
This bill will pretty much destroy hunting varmints, plinking with your children or grandchildren, and general practice through the horrendous expense that ammo will cost the recreational shooter. It will also allow the government to identify every type of gun you own when they come looking down the road. Don't think that won't eventually happen if bills of this nature get passed. This is why we, as hunters and gun owners, can't afford to sit on our apathetic laurels. We need to take an aggressive stance and get this crap stopped at the onset. Please join the NRA or another sportsmans group that has lobbying and legal clout to get these sort of bills stopped in their tracks. We need to show that all of us are united more now than at any other time in history. Please don't ride on the back of those of us that are giving our hard earned dollars to stop this crap. We need the help of every gun owner so we can show our strength in numbers.

This will never happen, it's just another push to increase sales. It worked for gun sales over the last 6 months, so why not try it for ammunition?

one final thought... If there were no more guns(hypothetically)there would stil be violent crime, stabbings and beatings so whats the solution there? you cant have a knife(ok we will just all become vegitarians oops with out a knife how to I harvest my lettuce and asparagus)? oh wait lets outlaw baseball, hockey, golf, and croquet WHY??? because the all involve blunt instruments that can be used to maim or kill somebody. There is no way to completely eliminate violent crimes where there is a will there is a way so please US Gov't and media stop blaming guns and gun owners.

Yeah I agree 100%! I mean I know that guns can cause some pretty violent deaths, but in all reality, getting stabbed 23 times or hit with a bat in the head several times, is way worse then a single shot to the logic maker.! These people and their arguments dont make no sense!

BENJISMOKEN guns do not cause deaths period i hear to many people say that PEOPLE CAUSE DEATHS WETHTER THEY HAVE A GUN OR NOT GUNS DO NOT CAUSE ANY KIND OF VIOLENCE and even if this was argued, 1. guns were made by man
2. guns cannot walk up to someone and shoot them therefore its not the guns fault
3.guns cause no violence

No wonder our country is in such a big mess, We have a white house full of air heads! This is not just one sided, the problem in with both parties and they no longer look out for the people.We need another party that will stop this crap!

PLEASE UNDERSTAND, this is just the tip of the iceberg. The program for government is MORE, MORE, MORE. More government, more taxes, more spending. Please join NRA and other groups like the www.pjtv.com to stop this insanity. The founders of this country intended that we have the LEAST government possible. All that is being eroded. Wake up and get involved! Vote out the politicians that are trying to expand government control.

I read a few of these bills, crazy crap. These idiots just want to make criminals out of the average Joe. I would become a criminal if I didn't dispose of some of my old ammo I collected just for collecting and history puropses. I would be a criminal if I didn't destroy my old Western .45 auto match loads that are new in the box, my Ted Williams 12 gauge ammo, my Grandpa's handloads for his sporterized 1891 Mauser?????????? I guess I've always known I'd go to jail sooner or later.......I doubt I would go alone...........

Hey hillbilly:do you mean crocks or crooks?both maybe.

My brother went to our local gun store today to get some factory .45 ACP and .380 Auto ammo. They had no ammunition in those calibers and the owner told him that July 1, 2009 all ammo would be pulled from the shelves and replaced with serialized ammo. I haven't been able to verify this on-line but if true it means our government has passed this in one of those massive omnibus bills that congress passes without ever reading and you know that our president will sign into law anything that restricts our access to guns and ammo.

If they start passing stough like this all over the country, mark my words, there will be an anarachy. I just hope that it dies out. JOIN THE NRA!

This has been floating around for some time now. It has been defeated at every state they tried to pass it in. Some idiot in Oregon or Washington came up with this idea and formed a company to make these bullets and he has been accused by the states he has attempted to get support in as trying to create legislation so he can profiteer on it as the SOLE provider. You have to keep an eye on congress and the so called president, however at this time there has been no passage of said bill. It's just that the demand for the industry is more than it can meet with two wars, the military and police needs, let alone the private sector, which has been buying firearms and ammunition at unheard of volume never seen before. Obama is the sales person of the year for the firearms industry. HR Bill 45 is something to oppose loudly. Of course the Ill senator that supports it now is accused of bartering for the seat with the ex Ill gov. Maybe they'll throw him out of office too. Make sure you tell your senators and congressmen to get rid of that SOB when you call to oppose HR 45. Be prepared and stay armed and ready. There are 100 million gun owners in this nation and if we stand together if and when they try to take them there is no way they will succeed in doing so! Even if it means another revolution against the liberal socialists’ in power now, then so be it. The tree of liberty must be watered from time to time with the blood of tyrants and patriots. I’d rather see it watered with the tyrant’s blood than ours. But if it is necessary to ensure our future generations’ freedoms and liberties I am ready to serve, again!

Man this is going to be like the beer band and every bod will start to make there own ammo and things that they need for hunting.

H.R. 45 currently has zero cosponsors and the same chance of passage. It wasn't proposed by Burris but by Representative Bobby Rush of Illinois, besides, it's in the House not the Senate. Stryder you need to do more research before you start the rants, maybe cut back on the talk radio and Faux News else people will be jumping in the wrong direction. I support the 2nd Ammendment to our Constitution completely, along with all the others, every single one of them, but we have to keep a calm even keel to be successful in defending our rights. We have to look at the things that are not obvious because that is where we are being whittled away from.

it true hoarding ammo is a problem do to the bad information in the rumor mills and the soory goverment we have in office at this time . ammo in ky is very hard to find right now .as for the encodeing ammo and other things that the radicials against hunters ,collectos and sport shooting,or the gun owner that just wants to protect his family if need be. Rember we still have the right to be herd contact your state reps and congresmen.tell them your consern's and let them no you have the power of the vote to help find them a new job out of office if all this messing around with the 2nd ammendment keeps going.

I have read most of the so called bills and they keep mentioning assault weapons. If I am correct their are no weapons that are assault weapons that law expired some time ago. Their is in-fact no current data bases for recording serializing ammo let alone to serialize ammo that technology hasn't been invented as of yet. I WANT TO KNOW HOW YOU SERIALIZE BIRDSHOT IT IS MADE FOR PISTOLS. If they try to stop the manufacture of ammunition what is the military going to do for ammunition let alone all of law enforcement. All law enforcement will have to destroy all of their ammo as it will not be serialize who is going to enforce the law on them. read the bills their is no mention that law enforcement will be exempt from this law. WELL I GUESS IT IS BACK TO FLINTLOCKS, they can come take my ammo one bullet at a time I have several million rounds
this is going to put alot of people out of work, not just the ammunition manufactures but distributors & class 01, 02, 03, 06, 07, & class10 FFL's . Who is going to check all the homes for illegal ammunition, who is going to stop people from going to states that dont have this billare their going to be road blocks to check people coming from states that dont have a bill for Illegal ammo.

Maybe their is more to this than meets the eye.Firearms sales are up over 27% from last year,i imagine more so for ammo.If this bill goes nowhere someone still made alot of money.SO be it guns made America great.I (we) could always use a few new guns,with plenty of ammo while its still cheap enough.Plink on,and help the NRA as much as possible in these difficult times..

Well Michael maybe there is a reason, maybe we are on the eve of 1861!

Good to see people are talking about this now, Before its to late. You had better start emailing and calling your senators and keep informed who is voting on this kind of legislation. We need to fight back. Democrats have 60 seat majority in the senate now. Looks like law could start passing without much resistance if we the people don't start taking control of our government. Some may think that hunt_fish_sleep is off the mark. I think he is closer to the truth that some care to admit. If they will vote for Cap and Trade Legislation they will vote for H.R.45. Better keep on your toes with the our Current Government, America.

I agree with all of you/ BUT its almost the end of July and I can stii buy all I can afford of 45 ACP, 357 Mag, 44 Mag all Shotgun gauges in OO, as well as Slugs etc as well as 30/06 & 30/30 weekly.

Having said all that, sitting here griping on the blog won't help much. What will help is writing,calling,faxing and e-mailing your
City,State and Federal politicians EVERY G-D D*mn day!!!!!!!!!!

Say to them what you are saying to each other, if they hear from thousands of people every day with the same message it will make a difference! Off my soapbox now!

amen fruguy101

If it was even close to being passed, the NRA would be all over it and there would be no doubt in our minds this was happening. They would post it on everything associated with hunting or shooting from the outdoor channels, magazines, newspapers to their website. It's probably just something up for discussion but will not be voted on.