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You leave alot unsaid - what will you be hunting?
With regard to shotguns, you should probably take a look at the Remington 870 and Mossberg 500 - both good values for the money. I like the Mossberg - I think it is just as good as the Remington and cheaper. And if your going to be getting a slug barrel for the shotgun, I like the fact that the Mossberg slug barrel comes with a cantilevered scope mount.
870 exspress for a shotgun. They never fail.
i agree 870 express is cheap and very reliable
Everyone right on with the Remington 870 and Mossberg 500 for shotguns. They're very versitile and getting parts and chokes is easy. As far as rifles go, ammo is where you spend all your money. Stick with a common calibur that's versitile (.308, .30-06, or .270 are a few great calibur choices.) As for make and model...everyone has their preferences, but Savage puts out a quality rifle with an adjustable trigger that is definitely worth looking into.
For an all around rifle I would suggest a Win. 243. This is an excellent cartridge that will be used on all sorts of game big and small. For a shotgun get a pump 12 or 20 ga. All of the American brands are good and serviceable guns.
remington 870 express mag,ithaca 37,winchester 37, browning ranger,benelli super black eagle 2,mossberg 500
bamaoutdoorsman, isn't adding the SBE2 to the list like adding Rolls Royce to a list of chevy, ford, and dodge?
Last I knew, new SBE2's were selling for over $1400.00.
If money is a big concern, buy the shotgun first. You can still hunt deer with it while you save up for your rifle. I have a slight preference for the 870 over the Mossberg, but they're both great guns.
The 870 is a classic and works great with almost no problems.
i guess jay, but he didnt list a price range. I was just throwing somthing in there. He didnt ask for good prices, he asked for good guns, and the sbe2 is a great gun(i prefer american myself.) I listed the main guns and then threw in the sbe2.
my fault jay. I didnt see the "empty my wallet" part. ur right. sorry for the mis-type. no hard feelins
Shotgun- 870's or the Mossbergs(500,835) Will all do EVERYTHING you could ask from them and more. I have 2(traded a 500)and love them both.
Rifle- Savage makes a fine rifle/scope combo that won't empty you bank account.
I carry Browning, and Winchesters my self though but have had them for years.
Good Luck and Good Hunting !
Pray for a lottery, or sweepstakes, winning and prices BE DAMNED!
Until then, the 870 shotgun, and Savage rifles won't steer you wrong for the price!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=--GbVKwDfNU
Check out this video. Its the remington spr 453 semi-auto.
Pump's and bolt's don't jam(stove-pipe) young man.
Just a F.Y.I. for you.
For dear hunting i would use a mossberg 20 gage. For groundhog i use a remington .223 with a 500 yard leapold scope. And for small game such as coon or rabbit i use a .22 rifle with a scope.
one of the best shotguns over time has been the 1100 although i;ve many good comments on the 870 i havent used one in many years so i cant say whether i like it better or not, i also like the mossberg 500, that and the 1100 have done me wonders for varmint hunting. A few of the great rifles of 09 are definatly the benelli vinci and the browning maxas and the remington 887, ive read plenty of good reviews about the maxas and the 887, but i have yet to shoot those, but i have gotten to use the vinci and it is one of benellis best, bar none
Looks like you opened a can of worms here.
I know that Benelli makes a pump-action Nova in 12 or 20 ga. for $350
I have a Remmington 770 in 30-06 from Gander Mountain that had the scope come with it. It didn't kill the pocketbook. For East Texas hunting, it does the job fine.
for rifles: remington model 700 sps. they are decently priced rifles and really accurate, you cant beat a 700. im not a huge fan of remington 770 or any of those "ready out of the box" guns. i think they are really cheezy and you wont be happy with it over time. most of my rifles are either remington 700s or savages and i absolutly love them.
for shotguns: i agree with what most people have said. remington 870 or mossberg 500. both good guns and pretty cheap.
REMEMBER YOU GET WHAT YOU PAID FOR!!
Savage 110 series or Weatherby Vanguard rifles.
Remington 870 shotguns.
so, how did your 770 foul up? I want to know what to look for when it does.
I would go with the 870 but Mossberg is a good gun. Either one will do you justice.......
i would have to say a remington 870 is cheap reliable and it is a good gun to start out with
I don't know your price range but I really like my 12 Gauge Browning BPS Shotgun for the price I paid. I think it was around $450. It has served me well and shoots a good pattern and also accurate using slugs in the smooth bore barrel. If you don't have that much to spend I say go with what the others have been saying in the Mossberg 500. It is a great, very reliable shotgun and will probably save you a hundred or so.
I agree with everyone on the shotguns. I have only owned mossbergs. One for slugs and one for ducks. the slug gun is spot on every year. Just took my first big muley (to me).
As far as the rifle yes the Savage is cheap and good gun I just don't like the safety on mine. when unloading my 30.06 you must have the safety off. My brother-in-law flipped off the safety and gun went off immediately shot a good sized Chevy tahoe with it. Here we have a new store called bargine hunter. They deal with new and used hunting and outdoor gear. They are super on prices.
Sorry that store is in Fort Collins Colorado on mullbury.
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870 exspress for a shotgun. They never fail.
Pump's and bolt's don't jam(stove-pipe) young man.
Just a F.Y.I. for you.
I would go with the 870 but Mossberg is a good gun. Either one will do you justice.......
You leave alot unsaid - what will you be hunting?
With regard to shotguns, you should probably take a look at the Remington 870 and Mossberg 500 - both good values for the money. I like the Mossberg - I think it is just as good as the Remington and cheaper. And if your going to be getting a slug barrel for the shotgun, I like the fact that the Mossberg slug barrel comes with a cantilevered scope mount.
i agree 870 express is cheap and very reliable
Everyone right on with the Remington 870 and Mossberg 500 for shotguns. They're very versitile and getting parts and chokes is easy. As far as rifles go, ammo is where you spend all your money. Stick with a common calibur that's versitile (.308, .30-06, or .270 are a few great calibur choices.) As for make and model...everyone has their preferences, but Savage puts out a quality rifle with an adjustable trigger that is definitely worth looking into.
bamaoutdoorsman, isn't adding the SBE2 to the list like adding Rolls Royce to a list of chevy, ford, and dodge?
Last I knew, new SBE2's were selling for over $1400.00.
Pray for a lottery, or sweepstakes, winning and prices BE DAMNED!
Until then, the 870 shotgun, and Savage rifles won't steer you wrong for the price!
Savage 110 series or Weatherby Vanguard rifles.
Remington 870 shotguns.
i would have to say a remington 870 is cheap reliable and it is a good gun to start out with
If money is a big concern, buy the shotgun first. You can still hunt deer with it while you save up for your rifle. I have a slight preference for the 870 over the Mossberg, but they're both great guns.
The 870 is a classic and works great with almost no problems.
i guess jay, but he didnt list a price range. I was just throwing somthing in there. He didnt ask for good prices, he asked for good guns, and the sbe2 is a great gun(i prefer american myself.) I listed the main guns and then threw in the sbe2.
my fault jay. I didnt see the "empty my wallet" part. ur right. sorry for the mis-type. no hard feelins
Shotgun- 870's or the Mossbergs(500,835) Will all do EVERYTHING you could ask from them and more. I have 2(traded a 500)and love them both.
Rifle- Savage makes a fine rifle/scope combo that won't empty you bank account.
I carry Browning, and Winchesters my self though but have had them for years.
Good Luck and Good Hunting !
For dear hunting i would use a mossberg 20 gage. For groundhog i use a remington .223 with a 500 yard leapold scope. And for small game such as coon or rabbit i use a .22 rifle with a scope.
one of the best shotguns over time has been the 1100 although i;ve many good comments on the 870 i havent used one in many years so i cant say whether i like it better or not, i also like the mossberg 500, that and the 1100 have done me wonders for varmint hunting. A few of the great rifles of 09 are definatly the benelli vinci and the browning maxas and the remington 887, ive read plenty of good reviews about the maxas and the 887, but i have yet to shoot those, but i have gotten to use the vinci and it is one of benellis best, bar none
Looks like you opened a can of worms here.
I know that Benelli makes a pump-action Nova in 12 or 20 ga. for $350
I have a Remmington 770 in 30-06 from Gander Mountain that had the scope come with it. It didn't kill the pocketbook. For East Texas hunting, it does the job fine.
for rifles: remington model 700 sps. they are decently priced rifles and really accurate, you cant beat a 700. im not a huge fan of remington 770 or any of those "ready out of the box" guns. i think they are really cheezy and you wont be happy with it over time. most of my rifles are either remington 700s or savages and i absolutly love them.
for shotguns: i agree with what most people have said. remington 870 or mossberg 500. both good guns and pretty cheap.
REMEMBER YOU GET WHAT YOU PAID FOR!!
so, how did your 770 foul up? I want to know what to look for when it does.
I don't know your price range but I really like my 12 Gauge Browning BPS Shotgun for the price I paid. I think it was around $450. It has served me well and shoots a good pattern and also accurate using slugs in the smooth bore barrel. If you don't have that much to spend I say go with what the others have been saying in the Mossberg 500. It is a great, very reliable shotgun and will probably save you a hundred or so.
I agree with everyone on the shotguns. I have only owned mossbergs. One for slugs and one for ducks. the slug gun is spot on every year. Just took my first big muley (to me).
As far as the rifle yes the Savage is cheap and good gun I just don't like the safety on mine. when unloading my 30.06 you must have the safety off. My brother-in-law flipped off the safety and gun went off immediately shot a good sized Chevy tahoe with it. Here we have a new store called bargine hunter. They deal with new and used hunting and outdoor gear. They are super on prices.
Sorry that store is in Fort Collins Colorado on mullbury.
For an all around rifle I would suggest a Win. 243. This is an excellent cartridge that will be used on all sorts of game big and small. For a shotgun get a pump 12 or 20 ga. All of the American brands are good and serviceable guns.
remington 870 express mag,ithaca 37,winchester 37, browning ranger,benelli super black eagle 2,mossberg 500
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=--GbVKwDfNU
Check out this video. Its the remington spr 453 semi-auto.
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