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Hunting

Bad Hunting Shows

Uploaded on September 14, 2009

I sat down in front of the tube tonight to watch the Outdoor Channel and get pumped up for hunting season. I was watching Sportsman of North America. They were driving through fields sitting in chairs in the back of a pick up truck chasing mule deer. I figured the hunter was disabled and mentioned to my wife how nice it was they take him hunting. They find a nice mulie and the hunter lays his rifle across a bar in the bed of the pickup and drops the deer. To my surprise the hunter jumps out of the truck to claim his prize. He's not disabled! Legal or not, that's not what hunting is about. I change channels to Petersons Hunting. They were hunting turkey. The hunter takes a 42 yard shot through brush and misses the turkey. I said out loud " no sh!t dumb a$$. You can't shoot through a tree." After the commercial the idiot does the same thing. A bird comes in. The hunter fires. Leaves and branches blow everywhere. The bird flys off and he takes two more shots and levels a small forest. After a search they find that bird.

I'm not the greatest hunter in the world but I know bad hunting habits when I see them. I guess my beef is "why do they show this crap on tv?

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from sgaredneck wrote 2 years 36 weeks ago

I've noticed more of that kind of behavior lately too. Is there some sort of disease going around. Do folks not give a rip anymore??? And not just on hunting shows, or the Outdoor Channel, but all over TV. Politicians that have no shame being corrupt in the open. Entertainers and athletes showing their posteriors. Where is all this behavior coming from???

I guess all you and I can do is keep holding ourselves to a higher standard. I'll tune out Outdoor Channel, Versus, and any thing else I see a lack of ethics, being hunting or whatever. They can call it 'extreme' or whatever catch phrase they want. I wasn't raised that way and when I have kids they won't be either.
I won't buy their sponsors' products and I won't patronize the big box retailers that plaster their names all over everything.
I haven't seen F&S' ethics or standards slip too much but I think there are plenty of folks on here who will help keep things in check. Are y'all listening?

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from buckhunter wrote 2 years 36 weeks ago

It's half time of the Raiders/Chargers game. I flip it back to the Outdoor Channel. On The Best of the West a guys shoots a lope at 1000yds!? The wind was blowing so hard you could hardly hear them talking in the mic. Which leads me to believe he never made a 1000 yard shot. Next channel up is Deer TV. Keith Warren is hunting behind high fences. Who do we blame? The Outdoor Channel, the producers, the sponsers or is this what we want to watch?

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from Bryan01 wrote 2 years 36 weeks ago

I agree, I oftentimes find myself shaking my head in disgust when I turn these shows on - but for some reason, I keep periodically turning them on again - perhaps I'm hoping they get it right one of these days.

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from steve182 wrote 2 years 36 weeks ago

Most of the guys on these TV hunting shows show a lack of ethics, sportmanship and good hunting practices. It always amazes me what they put on TV. Lots of it fuel for the anti-hunters but lots of it makes me sick too. Some of these idiots supposedly shoot many dozens of deer a year and show an amazing lack of respect for their quary by taking unethical shots. I know wounding and not recovering game is always a possibility when hunting, this makes me very selective about the shots i take. Why do these guys take lousy shots and more importantly why do unrecovered hunts ever make it on to the TV show???!!

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from sgaredneck wrote 2 years 36 weeks ago

Imagine some of the footage that is edited out..........do we want to know???

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from WA Mtnhunter wrote 2 years 36 weeks ago

Buckhunter

Yeah, I saw that Best of the Worst show last night. That POS is little more than an info-mercial for Gunwerks rifles, whatever those funky scopes are, and freaky Berger VLD bullets. That guy from Berger was such a lard ass, I bet he could not waddle the 675 yards to recover that antelope he shot. I bet they drove the truck since he was not even panting! How hard is it to drive an F-350 around and get within 800 yards of antelope? The long range shooter wannabees probably need the male enhancement products so prominently advertised with their long range rifles and short range 'gun'.

And some of those chick hunt shows that have the blonde needling her husband the whole damn show. I would love it if my wife would big game hunt with me, but I would not put up with that crap shown on TV for 5 minutes. If they want to have a T&A show, just get on with it!

And all the giggling and whooping and grab-assing after a shot, geez. What gives with that juvenile behavior? You have just taken the life of a worthy game animal and you act like your junior high school team just hit a 3-pointer at the buzzer? Disgusting. I don't know why I ever watch that crap. Where the hell is Zumbo? And what is with all the whispering? Have these clowns never heard of voice over in the studio?

I'll take my Valium now....

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from GreatWhiteBuffalo wrote 2 years 36 weeks ago

I've seen guys arrow a bear, hog, and deer, right in the BUTT. Then, what bothers me the most, and what turns me away from trophy hunting, is that they only take pictures of the antlers, as if that is the ONLY IMPORTANT PART! You can't eat antlers, they are just a nice bonus.

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from Hunt_Hard wrote 2 years 35 weeks ago

I have noticed the same thing. One thing that gets me burnt out on these shows more than stupidity is advertising. Once they kill a deer they go through a big ol' speech thanking everybody that made it possible. Just hunt and thank god...

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from GreatWhiteBuffalo wrote 2 years 35 weeks ago

"Yeah, uh, I want to thank Marlin for this rifle, and um, Mossy Oak for my camo, Dorito for between hunt snacking, and uh, bud light for making the best pisswater on the planet." Then they tell what you just saw on T.V. Done, Credits with crappy country song.

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from Hunt_Hard wrote 2 years 35 weeks ago

haha
Exactly!

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from AndyH wrote 2 years 35 weeks ago

You mean hunting shows like this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K1ItmRAXdpQ

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from jay wrote 2 years 35 weeks ago

AndyH -- thanks for the recommendation. Can I know have my 3:32 minutes back.

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from AndyH wrote 2 years 35 weeks ago

I find fishing shows are more informative. I very seldom watch hunting shows for the same reason explained in this post. A good way to find info and humor, is to find an old store near your hunting grounds in the mornings where the hunters sit around and exchange gossip. Probably not all truth, but at least you will be entertained. Which is more than I can say for todays Hunting shows.

Good post +1

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from GiantWhitetails wrote 2 years 35 weeks ago

yeah like that competition fishing show, with referees! seriously, just relax and enjoy the fishing, jesus christ!

now The Spirit of the Wild with Ted Nugent is the greatest show on television. thats some good stuff.

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from Jeff4066 wrote 2 years 35 weeks ago

I agree with AndyH. I'm not much of a fisher, and do not give much advice here on it, as there are many far more experienced at that here. But I find fishing shows much more fun than hunting shows.

If fishing shows have any of that fakery, I'm just not smart enough about it to know. But some of the fools I've seen in hunting shows just torque my shorts. I realize that most of these guys are acting for the camera, but couldn't they get some decent advice?

Some are as bad as those movies where the "technical advisor" is some wannabe.

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from straightshooter wrote 2 years 34 weeks ago

The problem with hunting shows on tv is that in 30 minutes it's almost impossible to convey the things that many of us value about hunting. The solitude of hunting alone. The unspoken bond when hunting with lifelong friends. The satisfaction of watching your bird dog work a field. Being entertained by a couple of squirrels while waiting for that big buck to come along.

Unfortunately, every show has to end in a kill. For me, the kill is just one of many reasons that I hunt and it certainly doesn't happen every time out. It seems that the need to show a kill is leading some of these shows to resort to questionable ethics. It's unfortunate because that's not what hunting is all about.

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from straightshooter wrote 2 years 34 weeks ago

It may just be my nostalgic memory but it seems like the old Sportsman's Friend hosted by Curt Gowdy years ago did a much better job of portraying the entire hunting and fishing "experience" without the single-minded focus on the kill.

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from sgaredneck wrote 2 years 34 weeks ago

Excellent points and posts there, straightshooter. You summed up what I wanted to say but couldn't. Every time I see one of these shows in question I get irate, and even lose some focus. I've looked at this thread and would start to type in the box and it was just anger. Then I'd delete it.

+1 to you sir.

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from YoungGun wrote 2 years 31 weeks ago

I have noticed this many times lately. I'm a huge waterfowl hunter and advocate for safety and conservation, but most shows ignore these two concepts. I hate seeing birds skyblasted and educated. Now that I've been in college for a while, Ive talked to many people about why they think that hunting is "wrong", and many of them say that us hunters are just out there to kill animals. I think that there are many people like myself that are not in just for the kill, but the whole experience. Being outside, with friends and enjoying the resources we have. TV shows need to show more positives of hunting- Im in the process of putting together my own show here in Wisconsin that will hopefully do just that. Teaching people how to do things the "right" way, just like many of us average joes do.

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from ssi wrote 2 years 27 weeks ago

Thanx straightshooter...said it well. These shows harm the hunting community...I'm a Georgia transplant on temp and living in Kalifornia Bay Area...these juvenile, high fiving, point spouting, trophy types crate a nightmare when trying to support, defend or promote hunting to those unfamiliar...I tell them not to watch or judge the hunting community/ lifestyle based on these programs. I'm losing the battle with even the moderate croud....badly. If these shows are distasteful and concern us (avid sportsmen) how the hell do you think nonhunters feel when they watch them.......? The only shows I like are the ones that focus on the location, scenery and methods of pursuing the game...not the kill, points, etc.and locker-room "jock" crap...why can't the host spend more time discussing planning, equipment,rifle type, caliber and how to locate a good guide service for different game.....hope youngGun is successful....

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from codyboyd wrote 2 years 27 weeks ago

you sud see the people in colorado. we leased this land and the lady double booked us with this other party! when we woke up they were driving their iron horses shooting at the elk that we were going to hunt like sportsmans. but no, they had to get their moneys worth of it

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from Ontario Honker ... wrote 2 years 26 weeks ago

I have a good friend who formerly had a fairly successful outdoors show up here in Canada and in US. He finally had to give it up. Now days the producer has to pay the cable channels to put the show on their network. And the networks suck up all the advertising too. If the guy producing the show doesn't have a fortune willed to him by a rich uncle, he can forget about making a living. Up here the federal government strictly limits the amount of promotion a person can do on his show, outside the commercials. The limit is supposed to be zero but if you know the right people you can work the plugs in and get away with it. One of the things that made his show unprofitable was having to produce two versions of the same show: the Canadian one sans the plugs and the American one i.e. non-stop infomercial. He hated it but it's the only way the US networks would buy his show. Or rather, let him pay them to show it.

It a sick business. I agree, this highly visible crap is making our sport out to be just about as bad as it's becoming. Last year some Texas millionaire bowhunter shot what was supposed to be the new New Mexico record elk - if not world record. His story published on TNN internet made me want to puke. The bull was shot on a pay-for-hunt Indian reservation. He plugged it right at dusk. In the article he had the brass testicles to brag that he stopped the guides from looking for the bull. Insisted that everyone go back to the lodge and wait till morning. Next day his wife find a giant pool of blood right where the elk was shot. He had stuck it through the liver as I recall. About thirty-five yards away they found the animal. Remember, this was August in New Mexico. What they found was a giant pile of stinking rotten raven food with a nice set of antlers on it. Can you believe this guy? He wasn't even smart enough to not tell the truth. He didn't think he'd done anything wrong! I alerted Pope & Young. Hope they refused to measure it but I'm sure they did. It's all about money. I guess I shouldn't expect hunting to be different from any other aspect of modern American culture.

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from ricochet wrote 2 years 24 weeks ago

I also was watching a clip the other day when some yahoo in Texas ( nothin' against Texans ) took a fairly long shot at a whitetail and thinking he must have missed, just turned around, cussed some and started walking away! I mean come on, the deer jumped and he never even thought of walking to where it was to look for any sign that it was hit. To take the chance that it went over the rise and limped away or just dropped dead and rotted away is inexcusable.
I don't know who decided to air that, but thats now what we're all fighting these days.

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from ricochet wrote 2 years 24 weeks ago

I read back some here and I agree, it's not the kill that gets me hunting. I've passed on more easy shots on game than I've ever taken and will probably continue doing it. For me it's all about being in the woods, especially with friends or family that you only see once a year sometimes. I'll usually be the camp chef and go out early to set up stands and camp and chop wood. Thats what I really enjoy doing..all the lead up times to get the deer hanging in camp. After all, you can't really have a deer camp without ever having any deer hanging there. It does'nt have to happen all the time, but enough to keep em' coming back!

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from 86Ram wrote 2 years 24 weeks ago

It's no better than Bucks of Tecomate / Realtree Outdoors with it's feeders off to the side... Any of the hunts done in texas on the shows if you watch you'll see a feeder just off camera if they're on the road "feeding" on the dirt road I'll bet somethin is there for them. To me they're canned hunts and just as bad as fenced hunts.

Anyways my thoughts I agree these shows are all bout marketing their product and not the true hunt.

The duck, goose, squirrel, dove, pheasant, turkey and some of the deer /hog hunts are true hunts.

However none of the shows attempt to educate or inform you of their products use.

I dislike the fist pumping fake prayers on a majority of the shows.... that is scripted into them so much it's almost a trademark (RealTree Outdoors)

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from jwallen wrote 2 years 15 weeks ago

People that laugh after they have killed an animal just plain "freak me out"! Why would any thinking producer put something like that out? It is creepy in my book. I am also glad that the long range shooting in "The Best of the West" bothers some of the other people here. Do we want to watch hunting or just killing?

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from tbogg10 wrote 2 years 15 weeks ago

i dont have outdoor channel, and will probably never get it, but i have sees some shows at my friends house on this channel, and i would agree with you, im from ohio, and in lancaster we have a channel that shows local ohio hunters, out hunting ethically, and those are the shows i would rather watch, and on a side note one of the guys that has a show used to do concrete work for my dad.

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from 86Ram wrote 2 years 15 weeks ago

I have stopped watchin alot of the shows that show questionable high shots with bows where the shot is a spinal shot rathere than a shot to the breadbasket (lungs) or heart. I've also seen one too many high shoulder shots on deer on the shows what is the reason for that? What ever happened to ethical humane shots?

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from tennesseedeerhunter wrote 2 years 15 weeks ago

i like hunting show that dont hunt behind high fences like bone collector huntin the world southern style realtree road trips the crush and jackie bushman

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from atien wrote 2 years 12 weeks ago

a couple years back i was watching ultimate match fishing and one guy was losing pretty bad and he got mad and he picked up one of the other guys extra poles and drops it in the water and watches it sink to the bottam of the lake, thats not what fishing or any sport for that matter is about, if your losing take it like a man its not the end of the world

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from atien wrote 2 years 12 weeks ago

hey 86Ram ^ you said that u have stopped watchin some shows wer they shoot an animal in the spine or the shoulder not very often does the shot perfect most the time when that happens with a bow its not on purpose and even with a rifle who cares if its a spine shot at least its a quick kill us as hunters and fishermen we need to stop arguing about whats a good way to shoot an animal if we keep i admit that i dont like high fence situations but if we keep disagreeing on everything we will be seperated just by the way we hunt and i dont want that to happen. you dont have to agree with me just because im 13 but i sure hope this was a good lecture.

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from Sourdough Dave wrote 2 years 12 weeks ago

I watched one yesterday where the guy is hunting in South Dakota with a foot of snow on the ground and promptly gets the truck stuck. Now what kind of idiot hunts South Dakota, North Dakota, Wyoming, Montana, Idaho with snow on the ground without snow chains. Not this guy, no winch, come-along, shovel, farm jack, etc. either. He didn't need any of that stuff because he had the ultimate emergency gear, a cell phone. Of course he had to unload the 4-wheeler to ride up to higher ground to find a cell signal. Well, help arrives in the form of a telephone company boom truck which promptly gets stuck as well. With the help of the winch on the boom they get the host's truck out. For all we know the telephone truck was there til spring. At what point did we as Americans lose that self-reliant pioneer spirit? When did we adopt that practice of calling upon others to get us out of the messes we get ourselves into? We have a couple of guys that post here that Poo-pooh the idea of carrying survival gear because they are just too smart to get into a jam, and they always have their cell phone. This show had an opportunity to make the most of a teachable moment and dropped the ball. What was taught was that you can be stupid and ill-prepared in the outdoors and feel free to inconvenience others when you can't take care of your own business. The lesson unfortunately seems to have been well received.

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from 86Ram wrote 2 years 11 weeks ago

atien: lectured by a 13yr old huh? Well how much experience have you got watchin a deer with a poorly placed shot? Spinal shot and shoulder shots are not instant kill shots. I've seen deer take 2 rounds to put em down do to those shots as the deer was crawlin or just kept liftin their head up. It eith take a follow up or other means and that don't set right with me.

BTW there's a reason the shows show the shot taken but not the up close shot of a poorly shot deer. Rifle or bow

As HUNTERS it our obligation to take the animal as humanely and as ethically as possible.
You been to Hunters education yet? If so I'm sure they mentioned that a few times.
Also if you've been around hunting awhile I'm sure other Hunters have said the same thing.

Sometimes we all make poor shots and I regret making poor shots So I do everything I can to make the best shot possible if I do not feel comfortable with a shot I don't take it!

So I don't think I need a lecture from a teen that basicall said you don't care about the type of shot as long as you are keepin the animal and it's a quick kill but it isn't always a quick kill

Hope you don't mind my lecture

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from rabbitpolice88 wrote 2 years 11 weeks ago

Right on 86Ram.

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from 86Ram wrote 2 years 11 weeks ago

rabbitpolice88.. Thank you

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from GeorgeC88 wrote 2 years 9 weeks ago

The most moronic hunting show I saw was several years ago when I still had the big sattelite dish,and I know it added fuel to the fire with the anti-hunters and probly the ASPCA too which I would totally agree with the ASPCA if it did.......I tuned in and they had these 3 guys who all talked like larry the cable guy(who I like)..so I watched,they were going wild hog hunting,And these 3 fools where all dressed in expensive camo,with painted faces standing around spraying each other with some brand of scent cover,then they showed the fools getting out about 12-15 dogs from their trucks,but NO GUNS...they went off and let the dogs start tracking,,,after a while the dogs found a hog and started running it,,,the dogs ran the hog down in the edge of a marsh or wetland and got it cornered,you could tell the darn pig was to tired to run any farther,these 3 fools show up and stand there watching and then start telling you about the wild hog,,all the while their pack of dogs are attacking this hog and each is giving it a good hard bite,then you could see that the hog had just about given up because it was on its belly not fighting much anymore,,then one of the fools pulls a rambo knife and jumps over to the hog and stabs it a few times....then they draged the hog up in the grass and pose for the camera...then they had to tend to 6 of their dogs who were bleeding from wounds from the hog..and they called that load of crap hunting!!!
Now I can understand the art of hunting with primitive weapons bows,spears,blow guns,slings,even knives....but letting a pack of dogs chew on an animal until its too tired to defend itself and then jump on it with a knife is not hunting..and putting your dogs up to fight a wild hog while you watch for 5 minutes is just as bad as dog-fighting....Now if they wanted to make their hog hunt a true sport and give the animal a chance then they should have left the dogs in the truck and took on the hog themselves with just their rambo knives and see if they are true sportsmen or just sadistic abusers of wildlife...

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from WA Mtnhunter wrote 2 years 36 weeks ago

Buckhunter

Yeah, I saw that Best of the Worst show last night. That POS is little more than an info-mercial for Gunwerks rifles, whatever those funky scopes are, and freaky Berger VLD bullets. That guy from Berger was such a lard ass, I bet he could not waddle the 675 yards to recover that antelope he shot. I bet they drove the truck since he was not even panting! How hard is it to drive an F-350 around and get within 800 yards of antelope? The long range shooter wannabees probably need the male enhancement products so prominently advertised with their long range rifles and short range 'gun'.

And some of those chick hunt shows that have the blonde needling her husband the whole damn show. I would love it if my wife would big game hunt with me, but I would not put up with that crap shown on TV for 5 minutes. If they want to have a T&A show, just get on with it!

And all the giggling and whooping and grab-assing after a shot, geez. What gives with that juvenile behavior? You have just taken the life of a worthy game animal and you act like your junior high school team just hit a 3-pointer at the buzzer? Disgusting. I don't know why I ever watch that crap. Where the hell is Zumbo? And what is with all the whispering? Have these clowns never heard of voice over in the studio?

I'll take my Valium now....

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from buckhunter wrote 2 years 36 weeks ago

It's half time of the Raiders/Chargers game. I flip it back to the Outdoor Channel. On The Best of the West a guys shoots a lope at 1000yds!? The wind was blowing so hard you could hardly hear them talking in the mic. Which leads me to believe he never made a 1000 yard shot. Next channel up is Deer TV. Keith Warren is hunting behind high fences. Who do we blame? The Outdoor Channel, the producers, the sponsers or is this what we want to watch?

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from sgaredneck wrote 2 years 36 weeks ago

I've noticed more of that kind of behavior lately too. Is there some sort of disease going around. Do folks not give a rip anymore??? And not just on hunting shows, or the Outdoor Channel, but all over TV. Politicians that have no shame being corrupt in the open. Entertainers and athletes showing their posteriors. Where is all this behavior coming from???

I guess all you and I can do is keep holding ourselves to a higher standard. I'll tune out Outdoor Channel, Versus, and any thing else I see a lack of ethics, being hunting or whatever. They can call it 'extreme' or whatever catch phrase they want. I wasn't raised that way and when I have kids they won't be either.
I won't buy their sponsors' products and I won't patronize the big box retailers that plaster their names all over everything.
I haven't seen F&S' ethics or standards slip too much but I think there are plenty of folks on here who will help keep things in check. Are y'all listening?

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from GreatWhiteBuffalo wrote 2 years 35 weeks ago

"Yeah, uh, I want to thank Marlin for this rifle, and um, Mossy Oak for my camo, Dorito for between hunt snacking, and uh, bud light for making the best pisswater on the planet." Then they tell what you just saw on T.V. Done, Credits with crappy country song.

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from steve182 wrote 2 years 36 weeks ago

Most of the guys on these TV hunting shows show a lack of ethics, sportmanship and good hunting practices. It always amazes me what they put on TV. Lots of it fuel for the anti-hunters but lots of it makes me sick too. Some of these idiots supposedly shoot many dozens of deer a year and show an amazing lack of respect for their quary by taking unethical shots. I know wounding and not recovering game is always a possibility when hunting, this makes me very selective about the shots i take. Why do these guys take lousy shots and more importantly why do unrecovered hunts ever make it on to the TV show???!!

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from straightshooter wrote 2 years 34 weeks ago

It may just be my nostalgic memory but it seems like the old Sportsman's Friend hosted by Curt Gowdy years ago did a much better job of portraying the entire hunting and fishing "experience" without the single-minded focus on the kill.

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from Bryan01 wrote 2 years 36 weeks ago

I agree, I oftentimes find myself shaking my head in disgust when I turn these shows on - but for some reason, I keep periodically turning them on again - perhaps I'm hoping they get it right one of these days.

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from Hunt_Hard wrote 2 years 35 weeks ago

I have noticed the same thing. One thing that gets me burnt out on these shows more than stupidity is advertising. Once they kill a deer they go through a big ol' speech thanking everybody that made it possible. Just hunt and thank god...

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from 86Ram wrote 2 years 11 weeks ago

atien: lectured by a 13yr old huh? Well how much experience have you got watchin a deer with a poorly placed shot? Spinal shot and shoulder shots are not instant kill shots. I've seen deer take 2 rounds to put em down do to those shots as the deer was crawlin or just kept liftin their head up. It eith take a follow up or other means and that don't set right with me.

BTW there's a reason the shows show the shot taken but not the up close shot of a poorly shot deer. Rifle or bow

As HUNTERS it our obligation to take the animal as humanely and as ethically as possible.
You been to Hunters education yet? If so I'm sure they mentioned that a few times.
Also if you've been around hunting awhile I'm sure other Hunters have said the same thing.

Sometimes we all make poor shots and I regret making poor shots So I do everything I can to make the best shot possible if I do not feel comfortable with a shot I don't take it!

So I don't think I need a lecture from a teen that basicall said you don't care about the type of shot as long as you are keepin the animal and it's a quick kill but it isn't always a quick kill

Hope you don't mind my lecture

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from Ontario Honker ... wrote 2 years 26 weeks ago

I have a good friend who formerly had a fairly successful outdoors show up here in Canada and in US. He finally had to give it up. Now days the producer has to pay the cable channels to put the show on their network. And the networks suck up all the advertising too. If the guy producing the show doesn't have a fortune willed to him by a rich uncle, he can forget about making a living. Up here the federal government strictly limits the amount of promotion a person can do on his show, outside the commercials. The limit is supposed to be zero but if you know the right people you can work the plugs in and get away with it. One of the things that made his show unprofitable was having to produce two versions of the same show: the Canadian one sans the plugs and the American one i.e. non-stop infomercial. He hated it but it's the only way the US networks would buy his show. Or rather, let him pay them to show it.

It a sick business. I agree, this highly visible crap is making our sport out to be just about as bad as it's becoming. Last year some Texas millionaire bowhunter shot what was supposed to be the new New Mexico record elk - if not world record. His story published on TNN internet made me want to puke. The bull was shot on a pay-for-hunt Indian reservation. He plugged it right at dusk. In the article he had the brass testicles to brag that he stopped the guides from looking for the bull. Insisted that everyone go back to the lodge and wait till morning. Next day his wife find a giant pool of blood right where the elk was shot. He had stuck it through the liver as I recall. About thirty-five yards away they found the animal. Remember, this was August in New Mexico. What they found was a giant pile of stinking rotten raven food with a nice set of antlers on it. Can you believe this guy? He wasn't even smart enough to not tell the truth. He didn't think he'd done anything wrong! I alerted Pope & Young. Hope they refused to measure it but I'm sure they did. It's all about money. I guess I shouldn't expect hunting to be different from any other aspect of modern American culture.

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from jwallen wrote 2 years 15 weeks ago

People that laugh after they have killed an animal just plain "freak me out"! Why would any thinking producer put something like that out? It is creepy in my book. I am also glad that the long range shooting in "The Best of the West" bothers some of the other people here. Do we want to watch hunting or just killing?

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from straightshooter wrote 2 years 34 weeks ago

The problem with hunting shows on tv is that in 30 minutes it's almost impossible to convey the things that many of us value about hunting. The solitude of hunting alone. The unspoken bond when hunting with lifelong friends. The satisfaction of watching your bird dog work a field. Being entertained by a couple of squirrels while waiting for that big buck to come along.

Unfortunately, every show has to end in a kill. For me, the kill is just one of many reasons that I hunt and it certainly doesn't happen every time out. It seems that the need to show a kill is leading some of these shows to resort to questionable ethics. It's unfortunate because that's not what hunting is all about.

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from sgaredneck wrote 2 years 36 weeks ago

Imagine some of the footage that is edited out..........do we want to know???

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from GreatWhiteBuffalo wrote 2 years 36 weeks ago

I've seen guys arrow a bear, hog, and deer, right in the BUTT. Then, what bothers me the most, and what turns me away from trophy hunting, is that they only take pictures of the antlers, as if that is the ONLY IMPORTANT PART! You can't eat antlers, they are just a nice bonus.

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from YoungGun wrote 2 years 31 weeks ago

I have noticed this many times lately. I'm a huge waterfowl hunter and advocate for safety and conservation, but most shows ignore these two concepts. I hate seeing birds skyblasted and educated. Now that I've been in college for a while, Ive talked to many people about why they think that hunting is "wrong", and many of them say that us hunters are just out there to kill animals. I think that there are many people like myself that are not in just for the kill, but the whole experience. Being outside, with friends and enjoying the resources we have. TV shows need to show more positives of hunting- Im in the process of putting together my own show here in Wisconsin that will hopefully do just that. Teaching people how to do things the "right" way, just like many of us average joes do.

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from AndyH wrote 2 years 35 weeks ago

I find fishing shows are more informative. I very seldom watch hunting shows for the same reason explained in this post. A good way to find info and humor, is to find an old store near your hunting grounds in the mornings where the hunters sit around and exchange gossip. Probably not all truth, but at least you will be entertained. Which is more than I can say for todays Hunting shows.

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from rabbitpolice88 wrote 2 years 11 weeks ago

Right on 86Ram.

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from Jeff4066 wrote 2 years 35 weeks ago

I agree with AndyH. I'm not much of a fisher, and do not give much advice here on it, as there are many far more experienced at that here. But I find fishing shows much more fun than hunting shows.

If fishing shows have any of that fakery, I'm just not smart enough about it to know. But some of the fools I've seen in hunting shows just torque my shorts. I realize that most of these guys are acting for the camera, but couldn't they get some decent advice?

Some are as bad as those movies where the "technical advisor" is some wannabe.

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from sgaredneck wrote 2 years 34 weeks ago

Excellent points and posts there, straightshooter. You summed up what I wanted to say but couldn't. Every time I see one of these shows in question I get irate, and even lose some focus. I've looked at this thread and would start to type in the box and it was just anger. Then I'd delete it.

+1 to you sir.

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from tbogg10 wrote 2 years 15 weeks ago

i dont have outdoor channel, and will probably never get it, but i have sees some shows at my friends house on this channel, and i would agree with you, im from ohio, and in lancaster we have a channel that shows local ohio hunters, out hunting ethically, and those are the shows i would rather watch, and on a side note one of the guys that has a show used to do concrete work for my dad.

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from GeorgeC88 wrote 2 years 9 weeks ago

The most moronic hunting show I saw was several years ago when I still had the big sattelite dish,and I know it added fuel to the fire with the anti-hunters and probly the ASPCA too which I would totally agree with the ASPCA if it did.......I tuned in and they had these 3 guys who all talked like larry the cable guy(who I like)..so I watched,they were going wild hog hunting,And these 3 fools where all dressed in expensive camo,with painted faces standing around spraying each other with some brand of scent cover,then they showed the fools getting out about 12-15 dogs from their trucks,but NO GUNS...they went off and let the dogs start tracking,,,after a while the dogs found a hog and started running it,,,the dogs ran the hog down in the edge of a marsh or wetland and got it cornered,you could tell the darn pig was to tired to run any farther,these 3 fools show up and stand there watching and then start telling you about the wild hog,,all the while their pack of dogs are attacking this hog and each is giving it a good hard bite,then you could see that the hog had just about given up because it was on its belly not fighting much anymore,,then one of the fools pulls a rambo knife and jumps over to the hog and stabs it a few times....then they draged the hog up in the grass and pose for the camera...then they had to tend to 6 of their dogs who were bleeding from wounds from the hog..and they called that load of crap hunting!!!
Now I can understand the art of hunting with primitive weapons bows,spears,blow guns,slings,even knives....but letting a pack of dogs chew on an animal until its too tired to defend itself and then jump on it with a knife is not hunting..and putting your dogs up to fight a wild hog while you watch for 5 minutes is just as bad as dog-fighting....Now if they wanted to make their hog hunt a true sport and give the animal a chance then they should have left the dogs in the truck and took on the hog themselves with just their rambo knives and see if they are true sportsmen or just sadistic abusers of wildlife...

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from AndyH wrote 2 years 35 weeks ago

You mean hunting shows like this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K1ItmRAXdpQ

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from jay wrote 2 years 35 weeks ago

AndyH -- thanks for the recommendation. Can I know have my 3:32 minutes back.

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from ssi wrote 2 years 27 weeks ago

Thanx straightshooter...said it well. These shows harm the hunting community...I'm a Georgia transplant on temp and living in Kalifornia Bay Area...these juvenile, high fiving, point spouting, trophy types crate a nightmare when trying to support, defend or promote hunting to those unfamiliar...I tell them not to watch or judge the hunting community/ lifestyle based on these programs. I'm losing the battle with even the moderate croud....badly. If these shows are distasteful and concern us (avid sportsmen) how the hell do you think nonhunters feel when they watch them.......? The only shows I like are the ones that focus on the location, scenery and methods of pursuing the game...not the kill, points, etc.and locker-room "jock" crap...why can't the host spend more time discussing planning, equipment,rifle type, caliber and how to locate a good guide service for different game.....hope youngGun is successful....

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from GiantWhitetails wrote 2 years 35 weeks ago

yeah like that competition fishing show, with referees! seriously, just relax and enjoy the fishing, jesus christ!

now The Spirit of the Wild with Ted Nugent is the greatest show on television. thats some good stuff.

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from Hunt_Hard wrote 2 years 35 weeks ago

haha
Exactly!

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from codyboyd wrote 2 years 27 weeks ago

you sud see the people in colorado. we leased this land and the lady double booked us with this other party! when we woke up they were driving their iron horses shooting at the elk that we were going to hunt like sportsmans. but no, they had to get their moneys worth of it

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from 86Ram wrote 2 years 24 weeks ago

It's no better than Bucks of Tecomate / Realtree Outdoors with it's feeders off to the side... Any of the hunts done in texas on the shows if you watch you'll see a feeder just off camera if they're on the road "feeding" on the dirt road I'll bet somethin is there for them. To me they're canned hunts and just as bad as fenced hunts.

Anyways my thoughts I agree these shows are all bout marketing their product and not the true hunt.

The duck, goose, squirrel, dove, pheasant, turkey and some of the deer /hog hunts are true hunts.

However none of the shows attempt to educate or inform you of their products use.

I dislike the fist pumping fake prayers on a majority of the shows.... that is scripted into them so much it's almost a trademark (RealTree Outdoors)

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from 86Ram wrote 2 years 11 weeks ago

rabbitpolice88.. Thank you

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from Sourdough Dave wrote 2 years 12 weeks ago

I watched one yesterday where the guy is hunting in South Dakota with a foot of snow on the ground and promptly gets the truck stuck. Now what kind of idiot hunts South Dakota, North Dakota, Wyoming, Montana, Idaho with snow on the ground without snow chains. Not this guy, no winch, come-along, shovel, farm jack, etc. either. He didn't need any of that stuff because he had the ultimate emergency gear, a cell phone. Of course he had to unload the 4-wheeler to ride up to higher ground to find a cell signal. Well, help arrives in the form of a telephone company boom truck which promptly gets stuck as well. With the help of the winch on the boom they get the host's truck out. For all we know the telephone truck was there til spring. At what point did we as Americans lose that self-reliant pioneer spirit? When did we adopt that practice of calling upon others to get us out of the messes we get ourselves into? We have a couple of guys that post here that Poo-pooh the idea of carrying survival gear because they are just too smart to get into a jam, and they always have their cell phone. This show had an opportunity to make the most of a teachable moment and dropped the ball. What was taught was that you can be stupid and ill-prepared in the outdoors and feel free to inconvenience others when you can't take care of your own business. The lesson unfortunately seems to have been well received.

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from ricochet wrote 2 years 24 weeks ago

I also was watching a clip the other day when some yahoo in Texas ( nothin' against Texans ) took a fairly long shot at a whitetail and thinking he must have missed, just turned around, cussed some and started walking away! I mean come on, the deer jumped and he never even thought of walking to where it was to look for any sign that it was hit. To take the chance that it went over the rise and limped away or just dropped dead and rotted away is inexcusable.
I don't know who decided to air that, but thats now what we're all fighting these days.

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from atien wrote 2 years 12 weeks ago

a couple years back i was watching ultimate match fishing and one guy was losing pretty bad and he got mad and he picked up one of the other guys extra poles and drops it in the water and watches it sink to the bottam of the lake, thats not what fishing or any sport for that matter is about, if your losing take it like a man its not the end of the world

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from 86Ram wrote 2 years 15 weeks ago

I have stopped watchin alot of the shows that show questionable high shots with bows where the shot is a spinal shot rathere than a shot to the breadbasket (lungs) or heart. I've also seen one too many high shoulder shots on deer on the shows what is the reason for that? What ever happened to ethical humane shots?

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from ricochet wrote 2 years 24 weeks ago

I read back some here and I agree, it's not the kill that gets me hunting. I've passed on more easy shots on game than I've ever taken and will probably continue doing it. For me it's all about being in the woods, especially with friends or family that you only see once a year sometimes. I'll usually be the camp chef and go out early to set up stands and camp and chop wood. Thats what I really enjoy doing..all the lead up times to get the deer hanging in camp. After all, you can't really have a deer camp without ever having any deer hanging there. It does'nt have to happen all the time, but enough to keep em' coming back!

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from tennesseedeerhunter wrote 2 years 15 weeks ago

i like hunting show that dont hunt behind high fences like bone collector huntin the world southern style realtree road trips the crush and jackie bushman

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from atien wrote 2 years 12 weeks ago

hey 86Ram ^ you said that u have stopped watchin some shows wer they shoot an animal in the spine or the shoulder not very often does the shot perfect most the time when that happens with a bow its not on purpose and even with a rifle who cares if its a spine shot at least its a quick kill us as hunters and fishermen we need to stop arguing about whats a good way to shoot an animal if we keep i admit that i dont like high fence situations but if we keep disagreeing on everything we will be seperated just by the way we hunt and i dont want that to happen. you dont have to agree with me just because im 13 but i sure hope this was a good lecture.

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