2nd Amendment
In other Second Amendment news, Fox News host Bill O'Reilly showed his opposition to select portions of the Bill of Rights when he interviewed Oath Keepers Founder Stewart Rhodes and the subject of gun confiscation during Hurricane Katrina came up. When Rhodes explained to O'Reilly that, even during a state of emergency, it's unconstitutional to confiscate lawfully owned guns, the Fox News Pinhead responded, "That's a pretty extreme position." Tell that to the Founders, Bill (Quoted from the Patriot Post, 26 Feb 10)
I heard O'Reilly state this position, and dismiss Stewart Rhodes on air. I think O'Reilly qualifies as a Class A Pinhead. Your thoughts?
Works for me. Why should personal rights like that be suspended at the whim of a few questionable politicians?
Might as well suspend your free speech rights so you can't complain when your gun is confiscated.
I would have a hard time thinking of a better time to have a gun.
Ever since he went to the White House Christmas party he has become quite the sycophant of Obama Bin Lyin and Michelle My Belle. Mr. Metro Sexual O'Reilly has lived in the concrete canyons of Manhattan for so long he has lost all touch with reallity and masculinity. Any of you who ever took the oath of service to America, check out the Oath Keepers. I still consider myself bound by the oath I took.
I can't stand this blowhard and never could. I don't see the fascination people have with this man.
Sourdough Dave-
My oath of enlistment went-
I,crm3006, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God.
Note the first part was to defend the Constitution of the United States against ALL ENIMIES, FOREIGN AND DOMESTIC.
I don't recall ever being released from this oath.
Amen, crm3006. I couldn't agree more. The real shame is that the biggest real threat to the constitution are domestic.
I saw the O'Reilly show - Bill is being a pinhead.
But it did make me think of the boundaries are for "state of emergencies" - and what if D.C. proclaims national "State of Emergency" because of some unforeseen crisis. Does anyone have a good source for this?
Check out LTC(Retired)Allen West's on youtube, he talks about the oath as well.
O'Reilly is indeed being an elitist Harvard pinhead. How can you even think of nullifying any part of the Bill of Rights without losing them all? I don't know a lot about the Oath Keepers organization, but the main premise is, they remember their Oath, and will not disobey the Constitution, or follow illegal orders, i.e., disarming law abiding citizens.
O'Reilly, Limbaugh, Hannity, Beck - all frauds and losers that probably couldn't handle any of our guns with any aplomb or keep up on a hunt. Yet they are practically worshiped by many in the outdoors community. Those folks have been duped. These guys are not your friends, and they have nothing in common with you. Just wimpy city boys with drug or sexual issues. This seems biased against conservatives, but honestly I can't think of any equivalent big names on the other side.
I'm not surprised by this moronic comment in the least. He's not on anyone's side but his money's. They talk all about the Constitution and our Bill of Rights, and get people all riled up about it, but they don't even understand what's in them.
I believe that O'reilly's comment was that in the event of a natural disaster it would be ok to confiscate weapons...and for that Mr. O'Reilly, you are a PINHEAD. My opinion of O'reilly has been forever changed. I understand that the looters and those type of ilk need to be disarmed, but that is for local law enforcement to do; as an Active Duty Soldier, I'd never dream of or obey an unlawful order by attempting to disarm another citizen. I would also remind my fellow Soldiers of their responsibility to do the same.
The posse comitatus act of 1878 ensures that federal troops will not conduct law enforcement. I can think of places where it has been circumvented (New Orleans, LA riots), but I can't help but think that Soldiers or their officers were not aware they were violating the constitution. Even though GWB instituted this during Katrina, the provision for this has been since repealed. The act is written as such: 18 U.S.C. § 1385. Use of Army and Air Force as posse comitatus "Whoever, except in cases and under circumstances expressly authorized by the Constitution or Act of Congress, willfully uses any part of the Army or the Air Force as a posse comitatus or otherwise to execute the laws shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than two years, or both."
Sounds like we have good laws on the books, but O'reilly is still a Pinhead.
He's no better n the rest so Pinhead it is...
I did'nt see the show so I can't say much about it. I would agree it was wrong. That said many of you are puting down someone who would side with most of us 90% of the time. SHANE, you can't speak for conservatives, because your not one. That would be like me speaking for liberals. I've never met a true conservative that has listened to Rush,Hannity and Beck that did'nt agree with most of what they say. I repeat Most, not all of what they say. I know for sure I agree with them more then I do Obama, Harry and Nancy. Out of those 6 people who do you find yourself with Shane? None of these conservatives hold guns, hunting and hunters in such contempt as those in power now.
My vote ----Pinhead, indeed.
He's an antagonist, that's how he makes his living. Pinhead nonetheless.
Many times the talk radio hosts have been trained like boxers to do what boxers do. They learn the moves, the bell rings and they unleash hell on their opponents. If you want to listen to that, Bill's ok. Pinhead or not, he has the place he's carved out for himself in the arena.
Personally, if I want a boxing match, I'll watch literal boxing. If I want "dialogue" about important issues, it's probably not going to be Bill.
I'm neither, I do my own thing, think for myself. Not following those guys word for word doesn't make me a liberal. I don't agree with any of the folks you listed much. All mostly idiocy coming from all of them. Each has their merits but I don't take anything coming out of any of those mouths seriously.
Oreilly has always been moderate. I think he is too moderate for me. Never take guns away from honest people. As for Shane, stanleyda stated it best. We don't agree with everything Rush or Hannity says, but they seem to be the most concervative and closest to our veiws. You will never agree with someone all the time, and if you do your not very smart.
If you believe O'Reilly is moderate, you've been duped. He's not moderate, just lost. You have to realize these guys aren't beacons of political wisdom, they are showman in it for the money, and what they say isn't from their hearts or minds. It's what will get ratings.
Apparently some people don't understand that we need to STICK WITH THE ALLIES THAT WE DO HAVE. Reilly may be a moron, but at least he believes in some basic 2nd Amendment rights (i.e. he believes that it is an individual right), which is more than can be said for most of the liberal talking heads out there on CNN, PBS, MSNBC, etc. I just think we need to focus our attacks on those who want to eliminate all private ownership of guns instead of those who just make stupid remarks concerning Katrina. Bill isn't going to be out there campaigning with the VPI or the Brady Campaign or trying to push thru anti-gun bills, no matter how many idiotic remarks he makes.
dukkillr-
No one has called for a boycott of O'Reilly, or even a public lynching. He was a pinhead on this issue. He was an elitist Harvard pinhead in that he believed it was somehow "extreme" to disarm the American public during a state of emergency. Laws have since been passed, prohibiting this. The possibility remains, O'Reilly may be educated in the meaning of the Second Amendment.
crm3006,
I was referring to shane, actually, when he plugged in his post saying that Limbaugh, Beck, Hannity, and Reilly were all "frauds and losers". I just don't see the point in ripping apart those who usually stand with us on the 2nd Amendment just because they occasionally make a dumb remark. Yes, he was an idiot when he said that...why paste him to the wall for that? There are much bigger targets out there.
He just does it for the ratings.
dukillr- I will almost always stand up for Limbaugh, Beck, Hannity, and O'Reilly unless they say something completely idiotic. 90% of the time I agree with their views. This is not one of those times though.
spartan88,
Same here. I'm not trying to stand up for O'Reilly in this instance either, I'm just wondering why bashing those who usually stand with us is such a popular thing now.
Hey guys,
He is a big boy. He should be standing on his own merits not requiring anyone to defend him. If he is being offbase, email him.
I back your statement 100% dukkillr.
I glad that most would agree with what I was saying, thanks dukkillr. To add to my statement, going after those in the news media that support the 2nd amendment like Rush, Hannity and Beck is crazy.OReilly trys to please both sides for ratings it seems but even in doing that he's still not a danger to outdoorsman as CNN,NBC, CBS,ABC.If they had their way there would be no hunting and no hand guns in the hands of the citizens.Tearing down those that support us reminds me of the fighting between rifle,bow,blackpowder,trophy,meat hunters,deer dog hunting, rabbit,deerhunters,primitive,non primitive ect. STUPID !
You have to excuse Riley, he got a worthless Harvard education. Harvard economics is what the Obama administration has deployed attempting to return the money "to the rightful owners" as Obama told Bill the Plumber.
Yeah, I too wonder why we keep turning to the academics for economic advise - they cannot even control tuition costs at their own schools - what makes anyone trust them?
Yeah, I think we ought to just close all those universities, except maybe their football and basketball programs. Who needs the academics. Think of all the tax savings not having to maintain those institutions.
The best education won't necessarily make you smart. "Those who can - do, and those who can't - teach."
With everything going on in this country I don't trust anyone except me and you and I am not so sure about you. That is almost the comical position I have taken. That comment wasn't directed at anyone just my feeble attempt at comedy.
I find Bill O'Reilly is one of those you have to listen from start to finish of the conversation and find what his intent is. Perhaps he was testing the persons view in all fairness of a good journalist to see if the individual was just using talking points or had knowledge and good reason to believe their position. Without seeing the telecast myself, I can't say anything good or bad in favor for or against.
As far as what you said about Stewart Rhodes and the subject of gun confiscation during Hurricane Katrina, if this holds true of his stance? I'll defend that point of view of the Second Amendment.
“A strong body makes the mind strong. As to the species of exercises, I advise the gun. While this gives moderate exercise to the body, it gives boldness, enterprise and independence to the mind. Games played with the ball and others of that nature are too violent for the body and stamp no character on the mind. Let your gun therefore be your constant companion of your walks.”
-Thomas Jefferson's advice to Peter Carr, his nephew and ward, in a letter written in Paris in 1785-Aug-19, cited in the Encyclopedia of Thomas Jefferson, p.318 (Foley, Ed., reissued 1967)
“The rifle itself has no moral stature, since it has no will of its own. Naturally, it may be used by evil men for evil purposes, but there are more good men than evil, and while the latter cannot be persuaded to the path of righteousness by propaganda, they can certainly be corrected by good men with rifles.”
-Col. Jeff Cooper, from The Art of the Rifle
“That rifle on the wall of the labourer's cottage or working class flat is the symbol of democracy. It is our job to see that it stays there.”
-George Orwell
“The peaceable part of mankind will be continually overrun by the vile and abandoned while they neglect the means of self-defence. The supposed quietude of a good man allures the ruffian; while on the other hand, arms like laws discourage and keep the invader and the plunderer in awe, and preserve order in the world as well as property. The balance of power is the scale of peace. The same balance would be preserved were all the world destitute of arms, for all would be alike; but since some will not, others dare not lay them aside.... Horrid mischief would ensue were one half the world deprived of the use of them; . . . the weak will become prey.”
-Thomas Paine (1737-1809), in "Thoughts on Defensive War", in The Pennsylvania Magazine, July 1775
“Justice Department studies show that armed citizens are much less likely to suffer losses or personal injury from thieves”
-The Washington Post, 1992-Jan-7
“Since Florida has enacted their concealed carry law, the Florida murder rate has dropped by 29%. Nationwide, the murder rate rose 11% over the same period...”
-ABC News, 1995-Mar-12, reporting on 1994 FBI crime statistic
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I saw the telecast, and even watched a later re-broadcast to make sure I had not got something wrong. O'Reilly responded, "That's a pretty extreme position." He dissed Rhodes and the Oath Keepers organization on the air. He is a PINHEAD on Second Amendment issues.
crm3006, if that is the case, then I'll say he is a PIN HEAD! And another Pin Head Alert on him when he uses the term, "Church and State". Where in the Constitution says that? It flat out doesn't!
On more time if anyone missed my question,
Not the NRA or even F&S has the backbone to ask this question!!!
"What Government Agency is responsible for your personnel protection?"
Went shopping today for a pair of Hunting Boots for Alex. In one place they were running down Obama pretty good. They looked at me and asked what I thought about him and caring a concealed weapon a thought came to mind. What if I was in the same room with President Obama and he came under attack? As much as I hate to say it, as a Christian and retired Military I must do my duty to protect his sorry A$$!
Clay Cooper-
The Declaration of Independence grants me the unalienable right, endowed by my Creator, to "Life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness."
The Constitution of these United States says that my right "to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed."
I will accept that as all the guvment involvement I need to protect my self and mine own, given their track record on that "to protect and serve" and that "Dial 911" stuff.
Clay Cooper-
I'd have to think on that one.
An California Official Stated after the Rodney King Riot,there is no Government entity responsible for your personal protection, go figure!
Bad guy has just busted the front door down, you have the 911 Operator in one hand and a Glock in the other, which one do you depend on and know you will survive this violent attack!
Possibility of bad guy busting in the front door? 50-50 in these unfortunate times.
Possibility of me having a cell phone in on hand and a Glock in the other? None. I will make the call after I stop the intrusion, and I can't handle an 1100 12 gauge with one hand.
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Oreilly has always been moderate. I think he is too moderate for me. Never take guns away from honest people. As for Shane, stanleyda stated it best. We don't agree with everything Rush or Hannity says, but they seem to be the most concervative and closest to our veiws. You will never agree with someone all the time, and if you do your not very smart.
Apparently some people don't understand that we need to STICK WITH THE ALLIES THAT WE DO HAVE. Reilly may be a moron, but at least he believes in some basic 2nd Amendment rights (i.e. he believes that it is an individual right), which is more than can be said for most of the liberal talking heads out there on CNN, PBS, MSNBC, etc. I just think we need to focus our attacks on those who want to eliminate all private ownership of guns instead of those who just make stupid remarks concerning Katrina. Bill isn't going to be out there campaigning with the VPI or the Brady Campaign or trying to push thru anti-gun bills, no matter how many idiotic remarks he makes.
crm3006,
I was referring to shane, actually, when he plugged in his post saying that Limbaugh, Beck, Hannity, and Reilly were all "frauds and losers". I just don't see the point in ripping apart those who usually stand with us on the 2nd Amendment just because they occasionally make a dumb remark. Yes, he was an idiot when he said that...why paste him to the wall for that? There are much bigger targets out there.
Sourdough Dave-
My oath of enlistment went-
I,crm3006, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God.
Note the first part was to defend the Constitution of the United States against ALL ENIMIES, FOREIGN AND DOMESTIC.
I don't recall ever being released from this oath.
I did'nt see the show so I can't say much about it. I would agree it was wrong. That said many of you are puting down someone who would side with most of us 90% of the time. SHANE, you can't speak for conservatives, because your not one. That would be like me speaking for liberals. I've never met a true conservative that has listened to Rush,Hannity and Beck that did'nt agree with most of what they say. I repeat Most, not all of what they say. I know for sure I agree with them more then I do Obama, Harry and Nancy. Out of those 6 people who do you find yourself with Shane? None of these conservatives hold guns, hunting and hunters in such contempt as those in power now.
Many times the talk radio hosts have been trained like boxers to do what boxers do. They learn the moves, the bell rings and they unleash hell on their opponents. If you want to listen to that, Bill's ok. Pinhead or not, he has the place he's carved out for himself in the arena.
Personally, if I want a boxing match, I'll watch literal boxing. If I want "dialogue" about important issues, it's probably not going to be Bill.
I would have a hard time thinking of a better time to have a gun.
I believe that O'reilly's comment was that in the event of a natural disaster it would be ok to confiscate weapons...and for that Mr. O'Reilly, you are a PINHEAD. My opinion of O'reilly has been forever changed. I understand that the looters and those type of ilk need to be disarmed, but that is for local law enforcement to do; as an Active Duty Soldier, I'd never dream of or obey an unlawful order by attempting to disarm another citizen. I would also remind my fellow Soldiers of their responsibility to do the same.
The posse comitatus act of 1878 ensures that federal troops will not conduct law enforcement. I can think of places where it has been circumvented (New Orleans, LA riots), but I can't help but think that Soldiers or their officers were not aware they were violating the constitution. Even though GWB instituted this during Katrina, the provision for this has been since repealed. The act is written as such: 18 U.S.C. § 1385. Use of Army and Air Force as posse comitatus "Whoever, except in cases and under circumstances expressly authorized by the Constitution or Act of Congress, willfully uses any part of the Army or the Air Force as a posse comitatus or otherwise to execute the laws shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than two years, or both."
Sounds like we have good laws on the books, but O'reilly is still a Pinhead.
dukkillr-
No one has called for a boycott of O'Reilly, or even a public lynching. He was a pinhead on this issue. He was an elitist Harvard pinhead in that he believed it was somehow "extreme" to disarm the American public during a state of emergency. Laws have since been passed, prohibiting this. The possibility remains, O'Reilly may be educated in the meaning of the Second Amendment.
Works for me. Why should personal rights like that be suspended at the whim of a few questionable politicians?
Might as well suspend your free speech rights so you can't complain when your gun is confiscated.
Amen, crm3006. I couldn't agree more. The real shame is that the biggest real threat to the constitution are domestic.
I saw the O'Reilly show - Bill is being a pinhead.
But it did make me think of the boundaries are for "state of emergencies" - and what if D.C. proclaims national "State of Emergency" because of some unforeseen crisis. Does anyone have a good source for this?
Check out LTC(Retired)Allen West's on youtube, he talks about the oath as well.
O'Reilly is indeed being an elitist Harvard pinhead. How can you even think of nullifying any part of the Bill of Rights without losing them all? I don't know a lot about the Oath Keepers organization, but the main premise is, they remember their Oath, and will not disobey the Constitution, or follow illegal orders, i.e., disarming law abiding citizens.
dukillr- I will almost always stand up for Limbaugh, Beck, Hannity, and O'Reilly unless they say something completely idiotic. 90% of the time I agree with their views. This is not one of those times though.
Hey guys,
He is a big boy. He should be standing on his own merits not requiring anyone to defend him. If he is being offbase, email him.
I back your statement 100% dukkillr.
CC-
I saw the telecast, and even watched a later re-broadcast to make sure I had not got something wrong. O'Reilly responded, "That's a pretty extreme position." He dissed Rhodes and the Oath Keepers organization on the air. He is a PINHEAD on Second Amendment issues.
Ever since he went to the White House Christmas party he has become quite the sycophant of Obama Bin Lyin and Michelle My Belle. Mr. Metro Sexual O'Reilly has lived in the concrete canyons of Manhattan for so long he has lost all touch with reallity and masculinity. Any of you who ever took the oath of service to America, check out the Oath Keepers. I still consider myself bound by the oath I took.
I can't stand this blowhard and never could. I don't see the fascination people have with this man.
He's no better n the rest so Pinhead it is...
My vote ----Pinhead, indeed.
He's an antagonist, that's how he makes his living. Pinhead nonetheless.
I'm neither, I do my own thing, think for myself. Not following those guys word for word doesn't make me a liberal. I don't agree with any of the folks you listed much. All mostly idiocy coming from all of them. Each has their merits but I don't take anything coming out of any of those mouths seriously.
He just does it for the ratings.
spartan88,
Same here. I'm not trying to stand up for O'Reilly in this instance either, I'm just wondering why bashing those who usually stand with us is such a popular thing now.
I glad that most would agree with what I was saying, thanks dukkillr. To add to my statement, going after those in the news media that support the 2nd amendment like Rush, Hannity and Beck is crazy.OReilly trys to please both sides for ratings it seems but even in doing that he's still not a danger to outdoorsman as CNN,NBC, CBS,ABC.If they had their way there would be no hunting and no hand guns in the hands of the citizens.Tearing down those that support us reminds me of the fighting between rifle,bow,blackpowder,trophy,meat hunters,deer dog hunting, rabbit,deerhunters,primitive,non primitive ect. STUPID !
O'Reilly, Limbaugh, Hannity, Beck - all frauds and losers that probably couldn't handle any of our guns with any aplomb or keep up on a hunt. Yet they are practically worshiped by many in the outdoors community. Those folks have been duped. These guys are not your friends, and they have nothing in common with you. Just wimpy city boys with drug or sexual issues. This seems biased against conservatives, but honestly I can't think of any equivalent big names on the other side.
I'm not surprised by this moronic comment in the least. He's not on anyone's side but his money's. They talk all about the Constitution and our Bill of Rights, and get people all riled up about it, but they don't even understand what's in them.
You have to excuse Riley, he got a worthless Harvard education. Harvard economics is what the Obama administration has deployed attempting to return the money "to the rightful owners" as Obama told Bill the Plumber.
Yeah, I too wonder why we keep turning to the academics for economic advise - they cannot even control tuition costs at their own schools - what makes anyone trust them?
Yeah, I think we ought to just close all those universities, except maybe their football and basketball programs. Who needs the academics. Think of all the tax savings not having to maintain those institutions.
The best education won't necessarily make you smart. "Those who can - do, and those who can't - teach."
With everything going on in this country I don't trust anyone except me and you and I am not so sure about you. That is almost the comical position I have taken. That comment wasn't directed at anyone just my feeble attempt at comedy.
crm3006, if that is the case, then I'll say he is a PIN HEAD! And another Pin Head Alert on him when he uses the term, "Church and State". Where in the Constitution says that? It flat out doesn't!
Went shopping today for a pair of Hunting Boots for Alex. In one place they were running down Obama pretty good. They looked at me and asked what I thought about him and caring a concealed weapon a thought came to mind. What if I was in the same room with President Obama and he came under attack? As much as I hate to say it, as a Christian and retired Military I must do my duty to protect his sorry A$$!
Clay Cooper-
The Declaration of Independence grants me the unalienable right, endowed by my Creator, to "Life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness."
The Constitution of these United States says that my right "to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed."
I will accept that as all the guvment involvement I need to protect my self and mine own, given their track record on that "to protect and serve" and that "Dial 911" stuff.
Clay Cooper-
I'd have to think on that one.
Possibility of bad guy busting in the front door? 50-50 in these unfortunate times.
Possibility of me having a cell phone in on hand and a Glock in the other? None. I will make the call after I stop the intrusion, and I can't handle an 1100 12 gauge with one hand.
If you believe O'Reilly is moderate, you've been duped. He's not moderate, just lost. You have to realize these guys aren't beacons of political wisdom, they are showman in it for the money, and what they say isn't from their hearts or minds. It's what will get ratings.
On more time if anyone missed my question,
Not the NRA or even F&S has the backbone to ask this question!!!
"What Government Agency is responsible for your personnel protection?"
An California Official Stated after the Rodney King Riot,there is no Government entity responsible for your personal protection, go figure!
Bad guy has just busted the front door down, you have the 911 Operator in one hand and a Glock in the other, which one do you depend on and know you will survive this violent attack!
I find Bill O'Reilly is one of those you have to listen from start to finish of the conversation and find what his intent is. Perhaps he was testing the persons view in all fairness of a good journalist to see if the individual was just using talking points or had knowledge and good reason to believe their position. Without seeing the telecast myself, I can't say anything good or bad in favor for or against.
As far as what you said about Stewart Rhodes and the subject of gun confiscation during Hurricane Katrina, if this holds true of his stance? I'll defend that point of view of the Second Amendment.
“A strong body makes the mind strong. As to the species of exercises, I advise the gun. While this gives moderate exercise to the body, it gives boldness, enterprise and independence to the mind. Games played with the ball and others of that nature are too violent for the body and stamp no character on the mind. Let your gun therefore be your constant companion of your walks.”
-Thomas Jefferson's advice to Peter Carr, his nephew and ward, in a letter written in Paris in 1785-Aug-19, cited in the Encyclopedia of Thomas Jefferson, p.318 (Foley, Ed., reissued 1967)
“The rifle itself has no moral stature, since it has no will of its own. Naturally, it may be used by evil men for evil purposes, but there are more good men than evil, and while the latter cannot be persuaded to the path of righteousness by propaganda, they can certainly be corrected by good men with rifles.”
-Col. Jeff Cooper, from The Art of the Rifle
“That rifle on the wall of the labourer's cottage or working class flat is the symbol of democracy. It is our job to see that it stays there.”
-George Orwell
“The peaceable part of mankind will be continually overrun by the vile and abandoned while they neglect the means of self-defence. The supposed quietude of a good man allures the ruffian; while on the other hand, arms like laws discourage and keep the invader and the plunderer in awe, and preserve order in the world as well as property. The balance of power is the scale of peace. The same balance would be preserved were all the world destitute of arms, for all would be alike; but since some will not, others dare not lay them aside.... Horrid mischief would ensue were one half the world deprived of the use of them; . . . the weak will become prey.”
-Thomas Paine (1737-1809), in "Thoughts on Defensive War", in The Pennsylvania Magazine, July 1775
“Justice Department studies show that armed citizens are much less likely to suffer losses or personal injury from thieves”
-The Washington Post, 1992-Jan-7
“Since Florida has enacted their concealed carry law, the Florida murder rate has dropped by 29%. Nationwide, the murder rate rose 11% over the same period...”
-ABC News, 1995-Mar-12, reporting on 1994 FBI crime statistic
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