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I noticed the other day that a few certain users always had +1's to their comments even if they were very plain answers or even poor answers while the good answers to questions didn't have any marks. After checking into it, I found that I can actually give my own answers a positive, and receive points for that (which is probably why these folks are doing this). I guess this is just another case of a few users being point greedy. What are your thoughts on this, should F&S even allow this?
I was curious one day and clicked on a post that I had made and it added a +1 after my post. Hmmm, why would you be allowed to give yourself a point?
I don't understand the point thing but if someone is rewarded someway for having a certain amount of points, I think it should be rewarded honestly. Cheaters never prosper...remember your mother telling you that??
If you can't play fair, don't play.
JB
Cheaters never win.
So what? What is the point in cheating at something that doesn't have any value anyway? If someone just has to have a +1 on their little comment, probably only Sigmund Freud could explain it via some penile deficiency or other infantile insecurity.
Grow up folks!
You can also give yourself a -1.
Interesting... +1!
You shouldn't be allowed to give yourself + or -. I doubt that this happens very often but it shouldn't happen at all.
why would you give your self a +1 ? thats like doing somthing then saying "great job , I'm so great!"
It good to know that you can give yourself + 1.......
I didn't know that!!!!!!!!!Hmmmmmmmmm......Interesting.......
Not sure why people are concerned. In all honesty the points dont mean anything at the end of the day. All these people who want gear and are just trying to post a bunch of worthless crap will never get selected anyways, so its irralavent what there point total is anyways. I think if you have been around the site long enough everyone knows whos answers and comments are good and who is just posting to post. I will give myself a -1 to prove my point. It does not matter about points and not sure why people get so wrapped up in themm
rudyglove,
my question is, why do you always give yourself +1's? Don't try to play dumb, you are the only one in this room with a +1...think about it.
But you can only give out a single +1 or -1.
I think its IP address, or MAC address controlled. You can give a -1 from one computer, and a +1 from another.
I'll go with Mark Twain's reasoning that it's OK to pat yourself on the back once and a while.(I paraphrase of course!)
I did not know that ... but will refrain. But I will also refrain from giving myself a -1, if you don't mind. :o)
I also have noticed a rash of +1s recently. I doubt it is people doing it to themselves. I imagine the editors can see who is actually awarding points.
I no longer -1 without explaining why. A -1 is not because I just disagree. Actually, if I disagree but it is still a good answer I might still +1. I have +1 where someone gave a good answer but was obviously knocked down by someone else who just disagreed. Seems that others have done the same.
i accidently did it once, but i doubt it counts for poiints and people will still know its a crappy answer if its a crappy amnswer
Yep, guys do it all the time. You'll also notice there are no follow up points mostly because it was a lame post anyway.
yeah i don't have a problem with it. If it is a pointless post then people will see it as such. Who pays atention to the + and - anyway. if it is for points then i guess we are dealing with unethical sportsman/women. and this is the only place we see them right...
rudyglove doesn't have a +1 anymore. and the idea of giving yourself a +1 is such a waste of time and selfishness for yourself are you really on here for the right reason is what some people need to ask themselves.
This is really funny . . . there are a few people out there who b!t(h about points, but if you really don't care about points wouldn't you not care about who is getting them and how? I am a little confussed here. When I first got on this site I thought "how cool, earn points and try gear" but now I go on the site to get ideas for fishing, learn things for hunting and so on. But all I have been seeing is a lot of complaining about points. . . points no one cares about. So why don't we use this site like it was intended: To share ideas and stories about the outdoors so that others may learn, laugh, and enjoy.
haha
That is messed up... why would you want to give yourself a +1??
The rash of +1 you noticed may be coming from me, joined not too long ago. If someone takes the time to post a reasonable thought, which most do, I usually give them a point to encourage them participate more.
I'm not the sharpest knife in the drawer, so I appreciate the +1's, not for the points, but because I like to know what people think of my answers.
Me to charlie, I give em' for good answers and for other reasons. I also give -1's too. But I don't vote for myself.
Like "rigging " an election.
everyone should take note as to who is not addressing this question. the top users, who pad points daily
SO thats how he won the election.LOL
bucksavage- Who are you really talking about? I'd like to know.
If F&S is cool with it, I am for sure OK with setting it so you can't give yourself points. It wouldn't matter to me anyway. Points are not the end-all be-all here for me. I like to hear what other folks say. I learn a lot.
I will admit to being pretty free with giving +1's to folks if I think it moves conversation forward or someone has a good point. I try to save the -1's for someone who is screwing up real bad like any of the PETA clowns (who don't care) or recently this anusbuster character. I'd rather not give a -1 unless there's something really wrong going on. If we didn't have differing opinions on things we'd all be just repeating each other. Not fun.
sgaredneck, txs for your reply.. it appears to me based on looking at a lot of questions and answers that some of the guys, and this is not a site to call out names, ask very simple questions, yet give excellent in depth answers, and always, always have +1 points to everything. some questions are also repeated. so therefore what you have here is, just like some hunters, horn hunters. F&S should not have to control cheaters.
these guys are just like poachers, "if the DNR catches us, we'll stop". a cheat is a cheat caught or not. it's not about points , to me it's about looking over a lot of junk from the same 3-4 folks to find folks with real answers or questions.
Are my answers suiting you ? I try to hit something different if someone asks a question and someone else answers. I try to only answer if I feel I have something worthwhile to add.
sgaredneck, i've actually read your profile sheet under comments and would find them to be amoung the best, not only in direct info, but you and i share a lot of the same thoughts on the hunting agenda and protection of our freedoms and rights. my granddad would say, " i may not always agree with you, but i will fight for your right to disagree ".
as a note to f&s the only way to make any of this fair is simple random drawings, i really like what loudapainter had to say.
i also wish i lived in a place where the quality of fishing was similar to yours.
I appreciate your comments on my comments. It's cool if you agree. It's also cool if you have a different view. Like I said before, different points of view make for more interesting conversation.
Back on the topic of this thread. As far as points go, they are sort of irrelevant. I haven't seen where you win a prize for having the most posts, or anything like that. If the most posts wins, there are folks with 3 or 4 times what I have. I couldn't catch them if I wanted to. And it doesn't matter. Like I said before, I'm here to learn, here to discuss stuff, exchange ideas, and talk with like-minded people about the outdoors. That's the real prizes.
bucksavage - were you talking about the bass fishing in S. GA??
I mean it's okay it's not like your doing something bad. But like everybody says: Cheaters never win and winners never cheat.
Nice comments.I think you guys should all give yourselves a +1.
They just deprive themselves of knowing what their true score should be. They have no sense of fair-play as they pay off the referees in a sense.
This comment will not get a +1 by myself.
once I did it cuz I gave a REAL long and what I viewed as a good answer so I tried it but I felt kinda guilty about it cuz I saw this post the next time I logged in.
If technically possible,the computer program should be adjusted to prevent this sort of thing, because users may sometimes look at the plus number to determine the extent of agreement with the comment.
Being able to give anybodies post a rating is stupid. The moron who decided to add that feature to this site needs a boot to the 'nads.
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The rash of +1 you noticed may be coming from me, joined not too long ago. If someone takes the time to post a reasonable thought, which most do, I usually give them a point to encourage them participate more.
I'm not the sharpest knife in the drawer, so I appreciate the +1's, not for the points, but because I like to know what people think of my answers.
So what? What is the point in cheating at something that doesn't have any value anyway? If someone just has to have a +1 on their little comment, probably only Sigmund Freud could explain it via some penile deficiency or other infantile insecurity.
Grow up folks!
I'll go with Mark Twain's reasoning that it's OK to pat yourself on the back once and a while.(I paraphrase of course!)
You shouldn't be allowed to give yourself + or -. I doubt that this happens very often but it shouldn't happen at all.
I did not know that ... but will refrain. But I will also refrain from giving myself a -1, if you don't mind. :o)
I also have noticed a rash of +1s recently. I doubt it is people doing it to themselves. I imagine the editors can see who is actually awarding points.
I no longer -1 without explaining why. A -1 is not because I just disagree. Actually, if I disagree but it is still a good answer I might still +1. I have +1 where someone gave a good answer but was obviously knocked down by someone else who just disagreed. Seems that others have done the same.
sgaredneck, i've actually read your profile sheet under comments and would find them to be amoung the best, not only in direct info, but you and i share a lot of the same thoughts on the hunting agenda and protection of our freedoms and rights. my granddad would say, " i may not always agree with you, but i will fight for your right to disagree ".
as a note to f&s the only way to make any of this fair is simple random drawings, i really like what loudapainter had to say.
i also wish i lived in a place where the quality of fishing was similar to yours.
I was curious one day and clicked on a post that I had made and it added a +1 after my post. Hmmm, why would you be allowed to give yourself a point?
I don't understand the point thing but if someone is rewarded someway for having a certain amount of points, I think it should be rewarded honestly. Cheaters never prosper...remember your mother telling you that??
If you can't play fair, don't play.
JB
why would you give your self a +1 ? thats like doing somthing then saying "great job , I'm so great!"
Not sure why people are concerned. In all honesty the points dont mean anything at the end of the day. All these people who want gear and are just trying to post a bunch of worthless crap will never get selected anyways, so its irralavent what there point total is anyways. I think if you have been around the site long enough everyone knows whos answers and comments are good and who is just posting to post. I will give myself a -1 to prove my point. It does not matter about points and not sure why people get so wrapped up in themm
rudyglove,
my question is, why do you always give yourself +1's? Don't try to play dumb, you are the only one in this room with a +1...think about it.
But you can only give out a single +1 or -1.
I think its IP address, or MAC address controlled. You can give a -1 from one computer, and a +1 from another.
yeah i don't have a problem with it. If it is a pointless post then people will see it as such. Who pays atention to the + and - anyway. if it is for points then i guess we are dealing with unethical sportsman/women. and this is the only place we see them right...
This is really funny . . . there are a few people out there who b!t(h about points, but if you really don't care about points wouldn't you not care about who is getting them and how? I am a little confussed here. When I first got on this site I thought "how cool, earn points and try gear" but now I go on the site to get ideas for fishing, learn things for hunting and so on. But all I have been seeing is a lot of complaining about points. . . points no one cares about. So why don't we use this site like it was intended: To share ideas and stories about the outdoors so that others may learn, laugh, and enjoy.
Me to charlie, I give em' for good answers and for other reasons. I also give -1's too. But I don't vote for myself.
Like "rigging " an election.
everyone should take note as to who is not addressing this question. the top users, who pad points daily
SO thats how he won the election.LOL
bucksavage- Who are you really talking about? I'd like to know.
If F&S is cool with it, I am for sure OK with setting it so you can't give yourself points. It wouldn't matter to me anyway. Points are not the end-all be-all here for me. I like to hear what other folks say. I learn a lot.
I will admit to being pretty free with giving +1's to folks if I think it moves conversation forward or someone has a good point. I try to save the -1's for someone who is screwing up real bad like any of the PETA clowns (who don't care) or recently this anusbuster character. I'd rather not give a -1 unless there's something really wrong going on. If we didn't have differing opinions on things we'd all be just repeating each other. Not fun.
sgaredneck, txs for your reply.. it appears to me based on looking at a lot of questions and answers that some of the guys, and this is not a site to call out names, ask very simple questions, yet give excellent in depth answers, and always, always have +1 points to everything. some questions are also repeated. so therefore what you have here is, just like some hunters, horn hunters. F&S should not have to control cheaters.
these guys are just like poachers, "if the DNR catches us, we'll stop". a cheat is a cheat caught or not. it's not about points , to me it's about looking over a lot of junk from the same 3-4 folks to find folks with real answers or questions.
Are my answers suiting you ? I try to hit something different if someone asks a question and someone else answers. I try to only answer if I feel I have something worthwhile to add.
I appreciate your comments on my comments. It's cool if you agree. It's also cool if you have a different view. Like I said before, different points of view make for more interesting conversation.
Back on the topic of this thread. As far as points go, they are sort of irrelevant. I haven't seen where you win a prize for having the most posts, or anything like that. If the most posts wins, there are folks with 3 or 4 times what I have. I couldn't catch them if I wanted to. And it doesn't matter. Like I said before, I'm here to learn, here to discuss stuff, exchange ideas, and talk with like-minded people about the outdoors. That's the real prizes.
bucksavage - were you talking about the bass fishing in S. GA??
I mean it's okay it's not like your doing something bad. But like everybody says: Cheaters never win and winners never cheat.
Nice comments.I think you guys should all give yourselves a +1.
Cheaters never win.
You can also give yourself a -1.
Interesting... +1!
i accidently did it once, but i doubt it counts for poiints and people will still know its a crappy answer if its a crappy amnswer
Yep, guys do it all the time. You'll also notice there are no follow up points mostly because it was a lame post anyway.
rudyglove doesn't have a +1 anymore. and the idea of giving yourself a +1 is such a waste of time and selfishness for yourself are you really on here for the right reason is what some people need to ask themselves.
haha
That is messed up... why would you want to give yourself a +1??
once I did it cuz I gave a REAL long and what I viewed as a good answer so I tried it but I felt kinda guilty about it cuz I saw this post the next time I logged in.
It good to know that you can give yourself + 1.......
I didn't know that!!!!!!!!!Hmmmmmmmmm......Interesting.......
They just deprive themselves of knowing what their true score should be. They have no sense of fair-play as they pay off the referees in a sense.
This comment will not get a +1 by myself.
If technically possible,the computer program should be adjusted to prevent this sort of thing, because users may sometimes look at the plus number to determine the extent of agreement with the comment.
Being able to give anybodies post a rating is stupid. The moron who decided to add that feature to this site needs a boot to the 'nads.
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