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Government control

Uploaded on August 19, 2009

"In reality, the entirety of the congressional health care plan is a 'public option.' It is all about one thing: putting government in control of health care. In doing so, it will necessarily increase the government's influence over some of the most morally significant decisions you will ever make about your own life and the lives of your loved ones. ... Americans can either be self-reliant and free or reliant on government and not free. Choose freedom." --columnist Terence Jeffrey

This health care plan is just part of a much bigger thing!!

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from ranger2 wrote 2 years 39 weeks ago

The new regime is all about big government, socialism, and ultimately, control. We have come a long way from target when we have a government of the people, by the people, for the people, that no longer answers to the people. This one world order crap is getting out of hand. Time to clean out the hen house!

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from ken.mcloud wrote 2 years 39 weeks ago

ranger2-

I'm a firm believer in the constitution and limited government, I also hope that the Dems loose the congress in the midterms and the whitehouse in 2012, but...

how exactly is it that the government "no longer answers to the people"?

it seems to me that over half of the country voted for Obama, over half of the country voted for democratic senators, and over half of the country voted for democratic congressmen.

as far as I know, they will put themselves up for election in 2010, 2012, 2014, and every two years after that. Just as the Constitution describes. How is this not being responsive to the people?

Granted, the government doesn't answer to us (conservatives), but they're not supposed to, they're supposed to respond to the country as whole.

Our gripe is with the opinion of the majority of the American public, not with the way our republic answers to its citizens.

Painting a country as that hold free and fair elections as often as ours as unresponsive to the people sounds a lot more like a black-helicopter-wet-dream-fantasy to me than it does like reality.

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from Jeff4066 wrote 2 years 39 weeks ago

On the one hand I agree with ken. The most people voted these into place. People tired of an economy sliding on greased rails and all the other things that came with it.

My problem is the accountability factor. Campaign promises are too often ignored or changed.

If a candidate promises something, and changes, then they should be held immediately accountable, to the point of removal from office for it.

How about:
"No more pork" With the TARP bill loaded to the hilt with it. Obama stated that it was "just this once, in order to facilitate the quick passage". Later bills are loaded too.

The democrats have this one magic moment that crops up every so many decades... A democratic president, senate, and house. Those people are going to pass every stupid, unenforceable, wasteful democratic idea of the past 40 years. They know they have a limited time, and that is why these half-trillion dollar bills are going through at warp speed.

So promises are the only reason they were elected. In my humble opinion, if they are proven to be lies, then they should not remain in office.

The real problem is that the mess will stay with us for many years after these senators retire to their million-dollar homes, with money and free health care for life, after putting the shaft to us regular folks, those who didn't get help with their mortgage because they paid their bills.

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from steve182 wrote 2 years 39 weeks ago

Unfortunately you don't have to take a test to qualify to vote. Lots of people, especially those on the dole, are easily influenced by mistruths and/or incentives other than ideals, morality or the common good. I actually believe the voting age is too young. What does an 18 y.o. know, really? I know, its old enough to fight for your country, blah, blah blah... But is it old enough to know anything other than what you've been taught by Liberal teachers, media, and perhaps parents?

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from ranger2 wrote 2 years 39 weeks ago

The new regime is all about big government, socialism, and ultimately, control. We have come a long way from target when we have a government of the people, by the people, for the people, that no longer answers to the people. This one world order crap is getting out of hand. Time to clean out the hen house!

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from ken.mcloud wrote 2 years 39 weeks ago

ranger2-

I'm a firm believer in the constitution and limited government, I also hope that the Dems loose the congress in the midterms and the whitehouse in 2012, but...

how exactly is it that the government "no longer answers to the people"?

it seems to me that over half of the country voted for Obama, over half of the country voted for democratic senators, and over half of the country voted for democratic congressmen.

as far as I know, they will put themselves up for election in 2010, 2012, 2014, and every two years after that. Just as the Constitution describes. How is this not being responsive to the people?

Granted, the government doesn't answer to us (conservatives), but they're not supposed to, they're supposed to respond to the country as whole.

Our gripe is with the opinion of the majority of the American public, not with the way our republic answers to its citizens.

Painting a country as that hold free and fair elections as often as ours as unresponsive to the people sounds a lot more like a black-helicopter-wet-dream-fantasy to me than it does like reality.

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from steve182 wrote 2 years 39 weeks ago

Unfortunately you don't have to take a test to qualify to vote. Lots of people, especially those on the dole, are easily influenced by mistruths and/or incentives other than ideals, morality or the common good. I actually believe the voting age is too young. What does an 18 y.o. know, really? I know, its old enough to fight for your country, blah, blah blah... But is it old enough to know anything other than what you've been taught by Liberal teachers, media, and perhaps parents?

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from Jeff4066 wrote 2 years 39 weeks ago

On the one hand I agree with ken. The most people voted these into place. People tired of an economy sliding on greased rails and all the other things that came with it.

My problem is the accountability factor. Campaign promises are too often ignored or changed.

If a candidate promises something, and changes, then they should be held immediately accountable, to the point of removal from office for it.

How about:
"No more pork" With the TARP bill loaded to the hilt with it. Obama stated that it was "just this once, in order to facilitate the quick passage". Later bills are loaded too.

The democrats have this one magic moment that crops up every so many decades... A democratic president, senate, and house. Those people are going to pass every stupid, unenforceable, wasteful democratic idea of the past 40 years. They know they have a limited time, and that is why these half-trillion dollar bills are going through at warp speed.

So promises are the only reason they were elected. In my humble opinion, if they are proven to be lies, then they should not remain in office.

The real problem is that the mess will stay with us for many years after these senators retire to their million-dollar homes, with money and free health care for life, after putting the shaft to us regular folks, those who didn't get help with their mortgage because they paid their bills.

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