If the people that make the products and ads pay enough, it doesn't really matter now does it?

Nate

sorry long

Jeff4006,
that's disgusting to post something like that.

Nate

My barrels stiff enough, I just need to have it bedded properly.

LOL synthetic stock? You know what you are implying?!?
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Nate

I don't really mind these ads but now that I think of it I would much rather have stuff about the outdoors instead of mens body parts.

We had our first grandkid last year. Not THAT young, not THAT old.

Like TV or radio, ads we don't care for are a part of the fabric of life. With TV, that's the chance to go get a snack. With magazines, it just means a quick glance for something useful, then move on.

I know ads are supposed to make the magazine, or show, cheaper for us, but you would think the companies themselves would be better at picking ads and placement.

Some of my favorite mags are more ads than articles now.

I don't care much for the ad's but don't bother reading them. EASIEST SOLUTION.

It makes for some awkward looks from some folks if I'm trying to get from Heavey's article to the main body of work.

Wow they really need to gid rid of that stuff.

There was a time that you could let young people to look at all outdoor magazines. Now you have to screen all of the outdoor magazines from young eyes... Shame on the industry!
As sportsmen we should be making our magazines safe for all ages and encouraging young readers to subscribe or buy it monthly.... We need to be recruiting young people into our sport. Imagine if you were kind of interested in hunting or fishing, but did not know much about it and you picked up any one of the sporting magazines to show your child. If you were indecisive about whether you wanted to share this experience with you child.... That just might change your views on hunting, fishi9ng and the people who do it. I am not a prude either, but in a magazine that is supposed to be promotong outdoor sports ( hunting and fishing)... I really do not see a place for these ads. Field and Stream is not alone, they are all doing it now. But I do think that some one should buck the trend and return our outdoor magazines to just that, stories and ads aboout outdoors and hunting and fishing.

they should have more hunting articles but if they pay the greatest then why not keep the add in the mag.?

They are probably getting to a point where they can't turn down the ad dollars. Combine that with outfitters, dog breeders, etc. not being able to afford to place ads, and you will have more and more of this.

I checked to see what an ad costed, money can't be a problem if thats how much they getting just for the small ads. Can't imagine what the whole page is going for. My question is this: Why are there only male enhancement advertisements? Whats there for the women that read the magazine. I am a woman and I don't get anything from reading 3 to 5 ads back to back saying the same thing about men. Come on F & S. I thought this was a magazine for all genders and ages. Old dilapidated worn out men arent' the only ones reading this magaizine. Slow it down on the sex ads and lets put something in there worth the time we spend reading it.

Sorry if I stepped on your toes. But come on young women like myself want better stuff to read than something that ought to be in a medical magazine. If someone picked up the F & S and looked they would think the only reason men hunt and fish is because they have no excitement at home. LOL. No seriously it really looks like the magazine is catering to Men who having problems.

OMG ... me too WA Mtnhunter!

Ya I agree just don't look at em.

As long as they are done with a little class and not being disgusting(their not showing you anything) I don't see a problem,who is the majority readers of F&S? I would guess men by a long shot?The advertisers are targeting their ad towards the majority,lets face it this kind of thing makes money for them now a days(we have always been a sexually oriented society,well o.k. maybe not always but since the sixties)and because of their ads I get F&S at a more than fair rate(annually)

So much of what many have said is true, if we didn't look they would not print it.That said I try to be careful of what I read or watch on tv. I do not think it's right for an outdoor magazine to force this into my home. It's the same way with hollywood you think you know what your are going to be watching and then they will say or do something to make you wish your kids or family were not in the room.Hollywood along with so many in this country just asume everyones as messed up as they are. As far as telling someone, to just not look. Think about this I will look at nice looking women if I'm at the store or out eating with my wife, because they are there. It would not be the same for me to chose to go to these places in order to look at them.If I were looking for this type of imfo I would not buy a hunting magazine to get it. I want my daughter to be able to look at all of the magazine,she enjoys shooting. The same for watching tv with her we are not tuning in in order to see two men or two women kissing.We live in a great country because of our morality which comes from the God. Know one has to belive this, in order for all to benefit from it. It's our choice to add to the morality or lessen it.

30 years ago you would never see any adds like those in the back of F&S, or any other related magazines for that matter. Unfortunitly in today's time, seems that sex sells. You can't even watch Cartoon channel late night, without an advertizement of Girls Gone Wild. There's appropriate and then there's inappropriate. Seems to me that people have there wires crossed. I don't think we have to compromise I root beliefs, to keep up with the times. We want our children to live with good values, Don't we? Question: How do you eat an Elephant? Answer: One bite at a time.

Seems money and sex is the answer to a good life now days. Funny 25 or 30 years ago, tv and magazines had good ratings and F&S has been around for a long time. All its money doesn't come from Male enhancement pills. Should these kind of adds be placed in Boy's Life just because it may sell more. I maybe over reacting to some, but I see a whole differnt aspect on about these adds. People who like to have thier cake and eat it too are not reading F&S for that. Those type of people read Playboy and simular. Thing about it is that today people don't care much about what is proper or common courtesy. It's more about what feels good to me. 25 or 30 years ago people had more concern about what their children were exposed to. Now the streets are full of what we like to call challenged youth. Go figure.

you know, im a kid and as a kid and i love the outdoors. I have F&S mailed to me all the time. Now I think they need more bass tips(latley i need them) instead of that crap. im flipping through the pages and bam! there it is and i hear my mom asking me what im looking at when she sees them. F&S needs to understand that alot of kids are getting into the outdoors and they need to change to fit the generation. it just shouldnt be in the back of a OUTDOOR mag. F&S is made for people to learn about a read about the outdoors. not find the latest pill to make a certain male organ stick out like your hiding a .44 cal revolver in your pants.

you know thier are 44 cal. snubbies so whats your point.Im sorry I just don't see what the problem is,if you feel your kids aren't old enough to handle it hide the mag if you don't want to hide it tear the pages out,if you don't want to tear the pages out don't look at it (unless the power of the dark side just draws you to read about p$%#s enlargement)and if you cant handle that then petition F&S to stop the advertisement and if you wont do that, GROW UP

sex is as primal as hunting , F&S is merely trying to remind us of that. How many women are widow's during deer season? and how many of those woman are still getting "it" when you are hunting... all I'm tryin to say is deliver the meat from the woods, then take a pill and have sum fun... ya know how many times I've been freezin my butt off in a stand thinkin how warm and cozy my bed is.. a warm fire glowing, and my woman... oh wait, my woman is usually in a stand before me... go ahead and "NO" me on the comment

We have all just become demographic classifications for the advertising boys.

If the ads were not successful they would have stopped running them long ago.

Obviously sales are up! (sorry)

Where does it say these ads are immoral who or what is your comp-ass(if its in the bible quote the scripture please.

smallmouthaddict,

Idk what your deal is but you seem like you just want to come in here and start somthing. We (people) have morals and ways of life. we also do not have to quote a scripture of the bible to you everytime we say something. oh and just wondering, do you quote the bible every step or action you take? God knows I beleive in him, and I do whats right. So with that said do you think he frowns apon me for not liking the ads in the back? Also, if he didnt want people to be mad at them wouldnt it say so in the bible? so you tried to start an argument but failed. nice try.

If you are truely, asking scripture because you want to know the truth and are not being arguementive. You can read the bible for your self. You know as soon as we start "quoting scripture" from the bible it will end up in arguement. I don't like to see that here as I'm sure others don't either. Chritians do not argue scripture. It is your right smallmouthaddict as it is yours hunterkid94 to express your opinion. You are correct in asuming that I judge wrong, as do we all. We also lack knowing what right and wrong is, at times because we judge according to our own desires, emotions and lusts. We all make mistakes and we all have sinned. If I judged you wrong then I sincerly apologize. But I will not quote you a scripture. You can read for your self the bible. You may have done so already and thats good, but remember it is a living book. Every time I read it I get something new for my life. Somthing that helps me grow. 4 chapters a day well let you read the bible in 1 years time. If you do not like the bible then my point is proven that you want to argue. SEX ADDS in the back of a magazine that children have there eyes on? I know many magazines do it, but we are talking about F&S here.

There are distinct differences in what is in good taste, moral, legal, and Biblical.

The ads are certainly legal. I can't quote anything from the Bible that speaks directly to the issue except the verses prohibiting fornication. I suppose there is nothing immoral about the ads if they are for use in the bounds of marriage. I suppose they are borderline in the morals area where exposing them to small children is not particularly healthy from some perspectives.

What they are is extremely poor taste and definitely not a class act. We should expect better.

check out proverbs 5.19 and then have your woman read it

its one that seems to go unnoticed, there should be some sort of separation of church and F&S from now on

smallmouthaddict,

THis is why I thought you would be argumentative about scripture.

Your post said:
"you know thier are 44 cal. snubbies so whats your point.Im sorry I just don't see what the problem is,if you feel your kids aren't old enough to handle it hide the mag if you don't want to hide it tear the pages out,if you don't want to tear the pages out don't look at it (unless the power of the dark side just draws you to read about p$%#s enlargement)and if you cant handle that then petition F&S to stop the advertisement and if you wont do that, GROW UP"

I would say you are defencive.
Sorry, if want scripture I give it. I will not try to explain it to you. You will have too pray for yourself. I know from your statments that we have very different ideas about what is moral and apropreate. I will not qoute them, but you can look them up for yourself.

Matthew 5:28
Matthew 15:18-20
1Corinthians 10:21
Galatains 5:19-21
1John 2:3-6
2Timothy 2:15-19
Colossians 3:17-23
Philippians 4:5-9
1Thessalonians 5:22
and many more....

Please, I do not want an argument. I will not argue with you about these scriptures. Your ideas and inturpatations are up to you and God. Keep in mind, you can find any scripture to justify, just about any thing you want to do or don't want to do. If you have a relationship with the Lord I know you will not search scripture to justify but, to grow in the Lord.

ironsights,

Seems to reffernce Separation of Church and State?
Not in the constitution my friend.
Freedom of speech is.

First Amendment:
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof...

But if F&S wants to put a stop to Christian debate on the Bible they certainly can.

For one F&S is a business, while they need subscribers they also need advertisements. It is there choice to run these ads. It is your choice to subsrcibe. Maybe parents should not be so lazy and explain things to their kids. They hear a lot worse things on the playground. If you do not want to have your kids reading the ads then do not let them read F&S. Or make them understand what they are reading. Times are different, we once believed the world was flat also. If F&S loses enough subsrcibers because of these ads then will stop using them. To each his own.

oh and AndyH, you are not my friend

Ironsight,

If I am not your friend, thats your choice.

I am glad that you are so smart and have such education.

I am not very educated as you can tell.

I am glad we live in a free country where we can vote and express our thaughts to others.

And, I am not ashamed of what I believe.

You are intiled to your words. Your intitled to believe what ever books you study and speek your mind. I probubly should lighten up in many ways. I'm sorry you miss judged my point on the Constitution.

"It was not I that voted -1" on your post, I believe you are intitled to your thaughts and opinions. I hope that you can get over it and we can be friends someday.

Also I never said that F&S had to stop what they are doing. They have there rights. They can print what they want and use what ever advertisment they want. And Its not just F&S I'm really talking about. I'm just expressing my beliefs. They do not have to conform to my beliefs or yours.

It seems alot of people don't like my thoughts and beliefs. Thanks for all the -1 votes. I expected that, doesn't bother me. I will be praying for you to be blessed in Gods Country Ironsights. Take care okay.

FROM THE MOUTH'S OF BABE'S. TO Alex : + for you young man.

Ha... thanks Big O, but if you don't like it, don't read it. I mean really? is there some guy standing behind you with a .45 forcing you to read it? Jeez...