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I was at the range the other day (vacation ha) and I noticed that people were using scopes on lever action 30-30 .22's and such. Is the use of open sites a thing of the past or do you have a scope for the 40 yd turkey shot with a shotgun or 25 - 50 yd squirrel shot with a 22?
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no i have an old winchester model67 with iron sights. i havnt got to use it much though =(
i still use iron sights on my marlin lever 30/30 and do very well up to 100yrds
i only use iron sights honestly i cant see through a scope for nothing and i know for a fact that i'm a better shot with iron sights anyway
I have noticed the same thing. I have been watching hunting shows and every kind of hunting has a scope. Deer, elk, turkey, you name it (just not small birds), but i see what you mean. Some of us prefer to live in the past and go with the old ways (which are just fine, might i add), but on the other hand it is, in fact easier to just stick on a scope and take an extra-long shot for most people.
Nate
My old M-1 Garand still lacks a scope and still nails the bull at
300 yards. Trouble is, I'm not the one holding it anymore, can't SEE 300 yards! My son now nails the black.
Scopes are the ONLY way some of us old farts can hit a moose at 50 yards!
There's room for both on our range. Just wish more Dad's would teach the youngsters on iron sights FIRST then transition to a scope. (Same goes for automatic transmissions vs 5 speed sticks.)
I have a Winchester 94/Black Shadow with nice lokking iron sights that I will not put a scope on the ruin the look of the gun!It's a 1990's manufacture with good quality for a modern 94.
Oh, it's in .44mag caliber
The only iron sights I can use effectively are aperture /peep sights due to aging eyesight. Scopes are on all the TV hunts. Look at the sponsor list and that will tell you why....
All my .22s and my Marlin 30/30 have iron sights. I did put fiber optic sights on my 30/30 for lower light conditions. I have made many 50 yard shots at squirrels heads and drilled them with iron sights, it is the only way to hunt squirrels.
kk6bob hit the nail on the head I definately have rifles with scopes but I also have rifles with open sights. Using open sights is just something that needs to be taught and learned like driving a stick
I have open sights on my pistol and I think they help you to shoot better.
If anyone wants to start a hunting show called no scopes allowed starring me, I'm ready.
Regrettably, i have never killed a deer with open sights, or attempted to. That's gonna change!
This last season was the first time I have used a scope for hunting. It is definatly going to take a lot of time at the range to get used to. I am accustom to taking quick shots and completely missed a nice 10 point because I couldnt get the gun up and a good visual on him in time. Iron sites are the way to go.
I shoot open sights on my marlin 336 30-30 , I hope to teach my grandson before he ever sees a scope.
I think WillHunt4food has got it right. I have optics on everything except my handguns and shotgun, but I taught my daughter to shoot with open sights FIRST. Lining up the old iron sights and actually hitting the target for the first time is a magical moment. The familiar "Phump" of the old Red Rider spitting a BB at a paper plate. Then doing it again and again and again. Then the sparkle in her eyes when that first hole appeared. It was a priceless minute. Open sights require a little more familiarity with your firearm, a little more concentration and are a little more rewarding. After this conversation I may just remove a scope or two before next season.
Still shoot "open" on my 30-30 and on my squirrel gun(.22 marlin), but I use optics on everthing else including my turkey gun. What do you want from me? I'm gettin' old (LOL).
Opens the way I started this game and how I've passed it on, to all my nephews/nieces.
yes i think open sites are becoming a thing of the past . and i think it is sad . i hunt open sites as well as my 10 yr old son .but scopes can be good . i see a time not far away when i could have have trouble looking down through open sites. and then i will scope my old 06 . i think we owe it to the game we hunt to be the best shot we can be for a clean kill . if that means scope then go for it!
Asking the question about whether or not open sites is a thing of the past is like asking, should everyone learn to drive a car or truck with a clutch and three on the column. I'm glad I know how to use a clutch, and I'm glad I had many yrs. using open sights. I'm getting much older now and my eyes don't allow me the option of open sights and I'm very happy with my Redfield 4x. It's also allowed me to reach out a little further, and I believe it's helped with cleaner 1 shot kills. Oh yeah, I like my auto. transmission too!
I've had both a Rem. 700 .30-06 with a scope and a Marlin 336 .30-30 with open sights for over 20 years. I've shot far more deer with the Marlin. In the thick woods where I hunt, I can get on target a lot easier with the open sights. I had to pass up on a shot at a NICE buck once because he snuck up behind me and was walking slowly away through saplings with his head down. I never could get the crosshairs on him and off of the saplings. I won't make that mistake again! I'll have the Marlin with me. Another thing about scopes, I think putting a scope on a muzzleloader defeats the whole spirit of muzzleloading. Of course, I know many hunters disagree with me on that. But I won't ever scope mine.
i use both all the time . in fact most of my favorite guns i hunt with have both on them. i hunt deer where i cant most of the time jump in the truck to get a different rifle from home with out a long boat ride as well if my scope fails. so its great to have the back up of iron sights. or if it is a day when the snow is sticking to the trees like cotton candy, i will take one of my guns a peep sight or iron sights over a scope any day of the week.
My vision is so bad, I elected to mount a red dot on my bow some 14 years ago. (Eyeglasses and the bow string did not like each other.) That said, it's sure more enjoyable to hit where you're aiming.
It would be great to have the eyes of a teenager again.
Actually, I like open sights usually, especially for target shooting. But like others above, my vision ain't quite what it used to be, so it's more humane for the game if I use a scope.
I like open sights once in a while, but i have to admit that I usually use a scope for hunting. Never say never, but I don't think I'll ever put a scope on my turkey gun.
I have a friend who uses a .22 rigged with a scope not because that's what the gun demands but because he hunts deer with a scope on his centerfire and wants to be able to practice cheaply before deer season.
I used to love open sites when my eyes worked better. In my teen years I could shoot top side of a can at 200 yards with open sites. Now I need a scope to even see the can.
I still use a Williams receiver sight on my Winchester Model 94 in .30-30, and a Lyman Model 57 receiver sight on an M98 Mauser. I really don't want to lose my roots or "connection" with iron sights, and I enjoy carrying a lighter, uncluttered rifle occasionally.
I've shot with receiver sights all of my life on most of my rifles. I prefer them to any thing that I've ever used. The problem now is my eyesight. I fully need to use scoped rifles now or I can no longer shoot accurately. For me the change has been difficult! my rifles don't even hang in my hands the same way. It's not like I'm a virgin to scopes either. I've used them for many years, but only on select rifles. For some of you younger guys, don't be afraid to learn to shoot a receiver sight. They are deadly and lighting fast to use and can be extremely accurate when you have to make the precise shot. I know that I'll be using scopes from here on out.
I have been using open sites on my slug gun for years, I just upgraded guns two years ago and I did switch to a scoped gun. I still perfer to use the open sights while on a drive because it is easier to aquire a moving target.
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i still use iron sights on my marlin lever 30/30 and do very well up to 100yrds
My old M-1 Garand still lacks a scope and still nails the bull at
300 yards. Trouble is, I'm not the one holding it anymore, can't SEE 300 yards! My son now nails the black.
Scopes are the ONLY way some of us old farts can hit a moose at 50 yards!
There's room for both on our range. Just wish more Dad's would teach the youngsters on iron sights FIRST then transition to a scope. (Same goes for automatic transmissions vs 5 speed sticks.)
I have open sights on my pistol and I think they help you to shoot better.
Regrettably, i have never killed a deer with open sights, or attempted to. That's gonna change!
This last season was the first time I have used a scope for hunting. It is definatly going to take a lot of time at the range to get used to. I am accustom to taking quick shots and completely missed a nice 10 point because I couldnt get the gun up and a good visual on him in time. Iron sites are the way to go.
I shoot open sights on my marlin 336 30-30 , I hope to teach my grandson before he ever sees a scope.
Still shoot "open" on my 30-30 and on my squirrel gun(.22 marlin), but I use optics on everthing else including my turkey gun. What do you want from me? I'm gettin' old (LOL).
Opens the way I started this game and how I've passed it on, to all my nephews/nieces.
I've had both a Rem. 700 .30-06 with a scope and a Marlin 336 .30-30 with open sights for over 20 years. I've shot far more deer with the Marlin. In the thick woods where I hunt, I can get on target a lot easier with the open sights. I had to pass up on a shot at a NICE buck once because he snuck up behind me and was walking slowly away through saplings with his head down. I never could get the crosshairs on him and off of the saplings. I won't make that mistake again! I'll have the Marlin with me. Another thing about scopes, I think putting a scope on a muzzleloader defeats the whole spirit of muzzleloading. Of course, I know many hunters disagree with me on that. But I won't ever scope mine.
no i have an old winchester model67 with iron sights. i havnt got to use it much though =(
i only use iron sights honestly i cant see through a scope for nothing and i know for a fact that i'm a better shot with iron sights anyway
I have noticed the same thing. I have been watching hunting shows and every kind of hunting has a scope. Deer, elk, turkey, you name it (just not small birds), but i see what you mean. Some of us prefer to live in the past and go with the old ways (which are just fine, might i add), but on the other hand it is, in fact easier to just stick on a scope and take an extra-long shot for most people.
Nate
I have a Winchester 94/Black Shadow with nice lokking iron sights that I will not put a scope on the ruin the look of the gun!It's a 1990's manufacture with good quality for a modern 94.
Oh, it's in .44mag caliber
The only iron sights I can use effectively are aperture /peep sights due to aging eyesight. Scopes are on all the TV hunts. Look at the sponsor list and that will tell you why....
All my .22s and my Marlin 30/30 have iron sights. I did put fiber optic sights on my 30/30 for lower light conditions. I have made many 50 yard shots at squirrels heads and drilled them with iron sights, it is the only way to hunt squirrels.
kk6bob hit the nail on the head I definately have rifles with scopes but I also have rifles with open sights. Using open sights is just something that needs to be taught and learned like driving a stick
If anyone wants to start a hunting show called no scopes allowed starring me, I'm ready.
I think WillHunt4food has got it right. I have optics on everything except my handguns and shotgun, but I taught my daughter to shoot with open sights FIRST. Lining up the old iron sights and actually hitting the target for the first time is a magical moment. The familiar "Phump" of the old Red Rider spitting a BB at a paper plate. Then doing it again and again and again. Then the sparkle in her eyes when that first hole appeared. It was a priceless minute. Open sights require a little more familiarity with your firearm, a little more concentration and are a little more rewarding. After this conversation I may just remove a scope or two before next season.
yes i think open sites are becoming a thing of the past . and i think it is sad . i hunt open sites as well as my 10 yr old son .but scopes can be good . i see a time not far away when i could have have trouble looking down through open sites. and then i will scope my old 06 . i think we owe it to the game we hunt to be the best shot we can be for a clean kill . if that means scope then go for it!
Asking the question about whether or not open sites is a thing of the past is like asking, should everyone learn to drive a car or truck with a clutch and three on the column. I'm glad I know how to use a clutch, and I'm glad I had many yrs. using open sights. I'm getting much older now and my eyes don't allow me the option of open sights and I'm very happy with my Redfield 4x. It's also allowed me to reach out a little further, and I believe it's helped with cleaner 1 shot kills. Oh yeah, I like my auto. transmission too!
i use both all the time . in fact most of my favorite guns i hunt with have both on them. i hunt deer where i cant most of the time jump in the truck to get a different rifle from home with out a long boat ride as well if my scope fails. so its great to have the back up of iron sights. or if it is a day when the snow is sticking to the trees like cotton candy, i will take one of my guns a peep sight or iron sights over a scope any day of the week.
My vision is so bad, I elected to mount a red dot on my bow some 14 years ago. (Eyeglasses and the bow string did not like each other.) That said, it's sure more enjoyable to hit where you're aiming.
It would be great to have the eyes of a teenager again.
Actually, I like open sights usually, especially for target shooting. But like others above, my vision ain't quite what it used to be, so it's more humane for the game if I use a scope.
I like open sights once in a while, but i have to admit that I usually use a scope for hunting. Never say never, but I don't think I'll ever put a scope on my turkey gun.
I have a friend who uses a .22 rigged with a scope not because that's what the gun demands but because he hunts deer with a scope on his centerfire and wants to be able to practice cheaply before deer season.
I used to love open sites when my eyes worked better. In my teen years I could shoot top side of a can at 200 yards with open sites. Now I need a scope to even see the can.
I still use a Williams receiver sight on my Winchester Model 94 in .30-30, and a Lyman Model 57 receiver sight on an M98 Mauser. I really don't want to lose my roots or "connection" with iron sights, and I enjoy carrying a lighter, uncluttered rifle occasionally.
I've shot with receiver sights all of my life on most of my rifles. I prefer them to any thing that I've ever used. The problem now is my eyesight. I fully need to use scoped rifles now or I can no longer shoot accurately. For me the change has been difficult! my rifles don't even hang in my hands the same way. It's not like I'm a virgin to scopes either. I've used them for many years, but only on select rifles. For some of you younger guys, don't be afraid to learn to shoot a receiver sight. They are deadly and lighting fast to use and can be extremely accurate when you have to make the precise shot. I know that I'll be using scopes from here on out.
I have been using open sites on my slug gun for years, I just upgraded guns two years ago and I did switch to a scoped gun. I still perfer to use the open sights while on a drive because it is easier to aquire a moving target.
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