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Mountain Lions on the East Coast

Uploaded on April 17, 2009

I come from a small town in central Pennsylvania. It's primarily a farming area but there are mountain ranges as far as you can see. In about the last 5 years we've had numerous accounts in this area with mountain lions. People have gotten them on Trail Cameras, video cameras, and have even shot at them with rifles. These are people I know, and the proof is on their cameras they own! These people aren't the type to bring attention to themselves and their land and game camera's aren't a hoax. Just this past fall an Amish man in Lancaster, PA was attacked while bow hunting on his farm. Also, last November I was hunting Snake Hill WMA in West Virginia and I talked to a few guys in a parking lot that had just seen two Mountain Lions. Yes, I know some people mistake bobcats and other animals for mountain lions but the mountain lions in my home town are real, and these people have the videos and photos to prove it.

It seems Mountain Lions are on the east coast. There are numerous account everywhere on the east coast but yet the game commission refuses to believe of their existence. I want to hear what everyone else thinks. Has anyone else had an encounter with a mountain lion on the east coast? Do you believe there over here? If so, do you think the game commission is purposely refusing to believe in their existence?

-Seth

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from cardo111 wrote 5 years 17 hours ago

Interesting I live in NY state and their were supposedly sightings on Putnam county NY, not exactly upstate on the Adirondacks. The NYS DEC is basically minimizing the encounters here as well, stating that they are most likely exotic pets that have gotten loose? There have also been panther sightings in a trendy town along the Hudson River known as Snedens Landing, near Nyack NY (downstate about 20 miles north of NYC). There are some famous residents in this community including Bill Murray. These are obviously exotic pets as we know that panthers never roamed the Northeast. Interesting topic!

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from huntcamp wrote 5 years 15 hours ago

Here in WI they sat the same thing and then finally one was shot near Chicago, so they had to admit there was one. They however went back to their old ways and say that was the only one/ right. A good friend of mine saw a female carrying young. The one that was shot was a male. I think they say there aren't is so that people won't get scared and paranoid.

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from rabbitpolice88 wrote 5 years 13 hours ago

The GA DNR says the same thing, that there are not mountain lions in the North GA mountains. Again, like you said people have seen them found tracks and yes, even shot at them. These are not transplanted Florida panthers either. The GA DNR also says that there are not water moccassins in North GA. I personally have seen two and know many people that have killed them up here. Just because certain animals are not supposed to be there doesn't mean they aren't.

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from hunterkid94 wrote 5 years 12 hours ago

dont listen to those people in WVA. i live up there part of the time and it all started cuz one guy started that camp and now people accually fund his program! when i am up in wva im always in the outdoors and no one i know or me has ever seen a couger. once i see the man shoot one in front of my face ill beleive it.

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from Taylor3535 wrote 5 years 12 hours ago

WVA?

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from sickford66 wrote 4 years 11 weeks ago

i live in Kent, NY (Putnam County)Within the last month my son has spotted a 80lb mountian lion twice in our area around mid-day the area is fairly rural not a bobact or lynx which we have also seen over the years in this area, a full grown mountian lion..we havent reported it only beacause my brother who lives 6 miles away in Stormville ny, (Dutchass County)during this period spotted a mountian lion on his property and reported this to the DEC who basically claimed he didnt know what he was talking about and probably saw a large house cat, to which my brother reassured them that he has hunted and knows big game animals especially in daylight and 100ft from his driveway..my brother lives off the appalachian trail..i dont know why the DEC is so sarcastic about recording reported sightings.

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from Dakotah Dan wrote 4 years 10 weeks ago

As I stated on another thread, I grew up in the Black Hills of SD. There were occassional sitings of mountain lions which were always discounted as unsubstantiated, just as you report is happening in PA. Now, there is a Mountain Lion season in the Black Hills and western SD, and the pumas range far, as far as Sioux Falls on the far side of the state.

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from 007 wrote 4 years 10 weeks ago

Think what you will, friends, but my wife and I saw one in WV years ago and know of multiple sightings from reputable sources. I also saw one in neighboring Va. I've spent all my life in the tall timber and trust my eyes, I've seen two lions. My parents talked as far back as I can remember about hearing them scream around home from time to time as well. WV DNR emphatically denies their existence in the state, but if that's the case, why are they listed in the game laws as being totally protected? Why not list hippos as well? There was supposedely a sighting and accompanying film shot of the treed lion some time back but the rumor mill has it that the DNR quickly quieted the story and the tape disappeared. I think they just don't want the public to panic or something, not sure why. For further info on lions on the east coast, check out http://www.easternpumaresearch.com/, lots of good stuff there.

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from Ontario Honker ... wrote 4 years 10 weeks ago

A few lions have surfaced up here in NW Ontario too. But these are all without a doubt someone's pet turned loose. One of them was particularly tame. I am totally in favor of states or provinces regulating the possession of these things. If you want a pet that can kill someone or send the local community into a panic or totally mess up the ecosystem, then we (i.e. the govt) should know about it and be able to keep an eye on things.

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from bamaoutdoorsman93 wrote 4 years 9 weeks ago

we have em down here too. My neighbors have seen and heard them. You could shoot one, load it on your truck and drop at DNR's feet and theyd call it a deformed coyote or obese lynx. Animals arent controlled by maps and districts. They follow food sources, not border lines.I read male mountain lions will often have territorries up to 175 miles. (http://www.bear-tracker.com/cougar.html) They will travel 30+ miles per night in search of food. I think that maybe, just maybe, theyll wander out of the little 'zones' that they are supposobly restricted to.

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from alabamaoutlaw wrote 4 years 9 weeks ago

Last year a mountain lion was killes in south Georgia and given to the wildlife division they say it come from the Florida cats.Documented,but they are here in the pal meta swamps of south Alabama also.

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from John A Lutz wrote 4 years 9 weeks ago

NATIVE, WILD Mountain lions have been confirmed since 1965 in 11 of Pennsylvania's 67 counties. The most recent were in Clinton, Potter, Armstrong, Elk & Lancaster Counties.
Game officials across the east are lying thru their teeth, when claiming sightings are either hoaxes or misidentifications of other animals. Evidence of probable WILD pumas are now CONFIRMED in Maine, New Hampshire, Massachusetts, Pennsylvania, Maryland, West Virginia, Virginia, Illinois, Michigan, Wisconsin & North Carolina. For more data on this majestic wildlife, visit the Eastern Puma Research Network of which I am Director & have been investigating excellent reports since 1965.

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from 86Ram wrote 4 years 9 weeks ago

Yes there are historical records of Mtn Lions (Cougars) in VA along with Bison and Elk.

There are sightings in the low country of VA as well. Recently in the newspaper (2009)from my home town There was reports of a possible Mtn Lion attacking dogs. There was even a picture of a large cat that could be a Mtn Lion or a large spotless Bobcat.. Hard for me to tell from the picture.

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from ggmack wrote 4 years 9 weeks ago

I grew up in DE and heard stories of bobcats, wild hogs, coyotes and mountain loins as long as i can remember. i have been in the fields and woods since i waas 8. i do not believe these creatures live in DE.

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from alabamaoutlaw wrote 4 years 9 weeks ago

I'm not going to call you out on this but if i were you i wouldn't bet any money on that statement i know coyotes have made it to Maine from the west,aren't you in between those two states?

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from alabamaoutlaw wrote 4 years 9 weeks ago

ggmack there was a coyote attack on a terrier in Delaware in 2009 in your state it is documented.

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from peisler wrote 3 years 36 weeks ago

We rented cabins in Quarryville, PA over the weekend and late Friday night my friend saw a mountain lion near my site. It was walking about 20 ft. away and stopped briefly and looked at him before running off. The next night we heard an unusual sound in the distance. It only lasted for a few minutes and we didn't hear it again. We searched online for sound bites of mountain lions, and I'm pretty sure that's what we heard.

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from Sarge01 wrote 3 years 35 weeks ago

I consider myself a pretty fair trapper and have trapped in John Lutz back Yard ( Dolly Sods) for over 40 years. The area is about as remote as you will find. I have caught many many bobcats over the years but no mountain lions or did I see any tracks in the snow or any other sign. I have seen melted out bobgcat tracts that could have been mistaken for mountain lion tracks. When it was legal I used deer carcasses to trap with and the last time I read any thing that was a preferred food of mountain lions. My bear hunting buddies tell me that they have the finest dogs in the country and I have hunted with them and I know that to be true and they run their dogs 365 nights of the year over almost 100 % of the land and they tell me if there were any montain lions they would have treed one and they haven't treed one yet. I'm sorry but until I see one or proof of one (and the enhanced pictures floating on the internet aren't proof) I will not believe there are any here in eastern WV.

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from FirstBubba wrote 3 years 35 weeks ago

My state put up signs all along it's border in Cat-on-nese saying "No Cougars Welcome - Violaters WILL BE SHOT!!"
All the cougars left and we've not seen another since!
Unfortunately, the signs are getting covered with kitty graffiti!
One even wrote a pome (poem)!

I luv little mousies,
Little mousies is what I like to eat.
Biting off they little heads,
Nibble on they tiny feet!

Bubba

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from libertyfirst wrote 3 years 35 weeks ago

The local paper had a story about a supposed sighting just last week and like all the others there is absolutely no evidence to support. No tracks , no scat, no pictures and no hair. In Maine we have a very large Bobcat population and hound hunters from all over the states come here in the winter to hunt. None have ever cut a cougar track. There are now hundreds of thousands of trail cameras in the woods here and non of them have ever recorded a picture of a cougar. I think that it's fairly safe to say that there are no cougars in my state

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from GERG wrote 3 years 35 weeks ago

I wont dispute any of the sightings that people say they have had. Don't want the argument. People are gonna believe what they're gonna believe. I am of the camp if you cant touch,feel or see a dead one up close, I'm doubtful. Have a friend says we have wolves in our part of AR. Said show me one. That's when the fight started>LOL We have had confirmed sightings of black bear where I live. Which I do believe . Young males get the wanderlust for new territories or the dominate male will kill him. I have seen things in the woods I cant identify but wont call it anything but "I don't know what it was"

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from Steve in Virginia wrote 3 years 33 weeks ago

We occasionally hear reports of sightings in Virginia, although I haven't seen pictures or talked to any witnesses directly. it wouldn't surprise me however.

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from steve182 wrote 3 years 32 weeks ago

I have heard of credible sightings in PA.

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from PAShooter wrote 3 years 32 weeks ago

Back in the 1970's, I sighted Coyotes in my area. The PA Game denied that this could be true, well they don't now. I have not seen any Mt. Lions locally, but have some reputable friends who say the have.

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from John A Lutz wrote 3 years 32 weeks ago

In last 10 days, we have received 4 cougar reports, 1 in western Pendleton Co, WV & 3 in western Virginia.
Last nite, I sat in a barn with a horse who suffered deep gashes on its upper rump, that a vet & I considered from a mountain lion. Shortly after Midnite, the puma emitted her terrifying scream from high up on mountain to let me know she was close by.
Other current investigations of excellent reports are underway in eastern Highland Co, VA, from McDowell to Headwaters. If interested in sharing sightings, go to epuma@hardynet.com & tell us your experiences...

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from charlotte wrote 3 years 31 weeks ago

Last Saturday at 5:15 Pm, my husband and i were sitting on our deck at the mountain house in Hallstead, Susquehanna County, PA a brown mountain lion appeared out of the brush. We were both in such shock to see it. We did not take a picture as he went back into the brush before it ever dawned on us to go get our camera. but we both saw him plain as day for a few minutes. I am a true believer that mountain lion are definately in Pennsylvania.

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from ThomB wrote 3 years 13 weeks ago

About 15 years a go, just outside Gibson, Susquehanna County, my dad and buddy were driving down a dirt road during deer season. And saw a large mature mountain lion cross the road in from of them. It seems they both got a real good look at the mountain lion. They told a few people who immediately said they were full of shxt or smoking pot. My dad recently passed away, and my buddy was reminscing about seeing the mountain lion w my dad.

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from WVOtter wrote 3 years 10 weeks ago

I saw one myself in PA a couple years ago in spring gobbler season. Was at my set up and about 50-60 yards from my right to left. No mistaking that blunt, roman nose and long tail. So I've got my proof they are around the east, don't need to take anyone elses word.

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from steve182 wrote 3 years 10 weeks ago

About 10 yrs back after my Dad, Uncle and Cousin saw a black mountain lion in NorthCentral PA not far behind our camp, there was much talk about Lions in the area with many locals claiming to have seen both the black and tawny specimens. One of my smart-alek campmates printed a flier with a Cougar picture on it and a "IF YOU SEE A MOUNTAIN LION IN PA CALL ... AT THIS NUMBER..."
Needless to see My Uncle received quite a few phonecalls much to his bewilderment. We still laugh about that often but the joke underscores the certainty of many who have seen them in this region.

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from scrawford8872 wrote 3 years 9 weeks ago

Yes, I believe that mountain lions are deff taking up residence in PA. I believe that the Pennsylvania State Game commission is reluctant to admit to having these animals roam their land because it would be a lot more work for them. The presence of an endangered animal means a lot of research, reports, and of course money spent. Mountain lions can be spotted in one place and not be seen again for many week to months because they roam and hunt extremely large areas.
http://www.pabucks.com/deer-hunting-forum/viewtopic.php?t=6819

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from Sarge01 wrote 3 years 6 weeks ago

Today I read where the US fish and Wildlife Service and the Federal Government has declared the Eastern Cougar extinct.
They have been taken off of the endangered species list because thay have been declared extinct. They said if one is found it has been brought in from somewhere and released. I totally agree with them.

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from platte river rat wrote 3 years 6 weeks ago

here in Nebraska it the old shoot and shovel thing---our game dept. says we don't have any of those things here----hahahaahahahhaahahha Its funny in the Omaha World Herald---biggest city biggest state newspaper-- in the past two years there have been pictures of mountain lions that were run over by trucks or automobiles on the front page right there in Omaha. wonder were they can from---didn't see any wings on them.

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from platte river rat wrote 3 years 6 weeks ago

here in Nebraska it the old shoot and shovel thing---our game dept. says we don't have any of those things here----hahahaahahahhaahahha Its funny in the Omaha World Herald---biggest city biggest state newspaper-- in the past two years there have been pictures of mountain lions that were run over by trucks or automobiles on the front page right there in Omaha. wonder were they can from---didn't see any wings on them.

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from FrankM wrote 3 years 4 days ago

In Rhode Island, four separate sightings of a mountain lion, a carcass, and no corroboration from State officials.

http://southkingstown.patch.com/articles/matunuck-cat-sighting-not-a-mou...

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from shane wrote 3 years 2 days ago

There are a few of them around. Not many.

If you don't believe there are at least some, ask the guy in NE OH. He found a "kitten" on a rural road. Next thing he knows he's waking up face in the dirt in a world of hurt. Big cat tracks right by his head. Explain that one.

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from MATroutslayer wrote 2 years 42 weeks ago

We got 'em in Mass.

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from rock rat wrote 2 years 42 weeks ago

It doesn't matter wether some one believes someone else or not. If you have deer your going to have cats. they got one in Fairfield CT the other day. We've had radio coollared ones range a thousand miles. They are good at living amongst people. Thicker than rabbiit's out here on
The front range. Open up a season before the bunny nuggets protect themk

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from Ed Pierson wrote 2 years 24 weeks ago

Coyotes, bobcats and Mountain lions are all very illusive animals that do not care to be seen, if they can help it. I know there have been sightings in the enlow area of south western PA. A female cougar with her cubs were seen there. So not only is it a mountain lion sighting, but there is breeding going on. This sighting was made by a Columbia Bas Geologist. Also a horse was attcked not far from there and the actual attck was witnessed by the owner as the big cat hung on the hourse rump before the horse danced it off. The PA Game Comission did nothing so the owner called the U S wildlife and fisheries and they investigated and they confirmed it as a cougar as they found some tracks in the dirt. I also have a friend who has a camp in Uniontown and he showed me the photo of a cougar carrying a big whitetail buck across his camp ground. The cat was frightenly big. Now whether they are being released here, or are the one time pets of people that have escaped. One thing is for sure. they are seen and they are feral cats, holding their own in the forests of PA.

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from 007 wrote 2 years 24 weeks ago

I know this will look like I'm really reaching so please bear with me for a bit until I can tie it together. I was watching something last night about bigfoot, loch ness, yeti, and company and the "experts" were talking about how they would have to see physical proof of existence and how no one ever finds a carcass. We have a healthy bear population and I spend a fair amount of time in the woods but I've never seen a bear carcass so what makes folks think we'd find lion, bigfoot, or yeti carcasses lying around?

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from jmshackelfo@aol.com wrote 2 years 24 weeks ago

007; I totally agree. I know there are mountain lions around here, in Colorado. The only time I have saw one is while driving, the sun was setting in front of me and I saw it dart out onto the road then it was gone. The only reason I know it was a lion is because of the tail.
I have heard a lot of people say we have wolves here in Colorado. But try to get the DOW to say that. It will never happen. I think the goverment ether doesn't really know or don't want people out hunting for them.
I'm kinda a big foot beleiver too though.
But back to the lions. They have an incredable range of travel and if they find a good food source they will settle in. I have no dout they could go to Pen. or really anywhere they want to.

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from 007 wrote 2 years 24 weeks ago

Friend of mine not too far from here found a 6 pt. buck carcass 20' up in a big white oak a few years back. Doubtful the deer climbed the tree himself.

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from ja_demko wrote 2 years 23 weeks ago

One of my great uncles claimed to have seen one in the Punxsutawney PA area back in the mid-1970s. He got the horse laugh every time he mentioned it. At that time, though, seeing a bear in the same area was remarkable enough that it was something people talked about. Now bears are common enough in that place to have become pests. I've never personally seen a mountain lion or even any evidence of one, but that doesn't preclude their existance.

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from JamesD wrote 2 years 22 weeks ago

The idea that these big cats were totally eradicated east of the Mississippi is an absurd myth. With their numbers dwindled down to a small few in very remote areas with bounties lifted and no real large populations to make hunting and trapping lucrative these animals were left alone for many years. These cats are mainly nocturnal hunters and loners by nature. As their populations increased they began to move back into areas they once occupied coming into contact with humans who now occupy these areas. Like many other species of wild life such as coyotes, whitetail deer, black bear and a whole lot of other animals suburbia has become a buffet complete with family pets and small rodents as appetizers with larger prey including humans on the menu. The problem many of these states have in acknowledging a breading population of these animals is that they are placed on the federal endangered species list and the states hands are tied when it comes to dealing with problem animals (see wolves) it is easier getting rid of bad criminals than bad animals.

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from Terry Smith wrote 47 weeks 5 days ago

About 3 months ago i saw a couger in a neighbors backyard off of white pond rd behind woodcliff,..i never said anything because noone woukd believe me....it is true

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from allegnmtn wrote 47 weeks 5 days ago

I've hunted, fished, hiked, backpacked, and worked in the most remote "PA Wilds" part of Pennsylvania for 100-150+ days a year for over 40 years. I've never seen or heard anything, found a kill, etc. that I remotely believed was a big cat. I keep trail cameras out year round in this same area. With all the hunting, trail cameras, etc. on the East coast, I think someone would have produced a carcass or a clear irrefutable photo by now. If they are here, they are very few and far between.

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from jhjimbo wrote 47 weeks 3 days ago

John Lutz,
About 4 or 5 months ago the New York State magazine "Conservationist" had a article about a mountain lion that was hit and killed by a car in Connecticut. A necropsy was performed and DNA traced it back to a pack of lions in Wyoming. State Conservation speculated it made the 1800 mile trip and got carried away looking for it's own territory - it was a young male.
There have been stories of Lions all over the Adirondacks and even here in Ohio they have been sighted. I think others are correct that the States do not want to admit to their existence so as not to worry outdoor enthusiast. But if that is the case then like one other post said, why do they list it as 'protected' ??
I think they should fess up if there is a potential for them to be present so outdoor people can take the appropriate cautions.
Jim

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from RJ Arena wrote 47 weeks 3 days ago

It took a long time for the eastern states to fess up regarding coyotes too!

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from 007 wrote 4 years 10 weeks ago

Think what you will, friends, but my wife and I saw one in WV years ago and know of multiple sightings from reputable sources. I also saw one in neighboring Va. I've spent all my life in the tall timber and trust my eyes, I've seen two lions. My parents talked as far back as I can remember about hearing them scream around home from time to time as well. WV DNR emphatically denies their existence in the state, but if that's the case, why are they listed in the game laws as being totally protected? Why not list hippos as well? There was supposedely a sighting and accompanying film shot of the treed lion some time back but the rumor mill has it that the DNR quickly quieted the story and the tape disappeared. I think they just don't want the public to panic or something, not sure why. For further info on lions on the east coast, check out http://www.easternpumaresearch.com/, lots of good stuff there.

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from John A Lutz wrote 4 years 9 weeks ago

NATIVE, WILD Mountain lions have been confirmed since 1965 in 11 of Pennsylvania's 67 counties. The most recent were in Clinton, Potter, Armstrong, Elk & Lancaster Counties.
Game officials across the east are lying thru their teeth, when claiming sightings are either hoaxes or misidentifications of other animals. Evidence of probable WILD pumas are now CONFIRMED in Maine, New Hampshire, Massachusetts, Pennsylvania, Maryland, West Virginia, Virginia, Illinois, Michigan, Wisconsin & North Carolina. For more data on this majestic wildlife, visit the Eastern Puma Research Network of which I am Director & have been investigating excellent reports since 1965.

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from cardo111 wrote 5 years 17 hours ago

Interesting I live in NY state and their were supposedly sightings on Putnam county NY, not exactly upstate on the Adirondacks. The NYS DEC is basically minimizing the encounters here as well, stating that they are most likely exotic pets that have gotten loose? There have also been panther sightings in a trendy town along the Hudson River known as Snedens Landing, near Nyack NY (downstate about 20 miles north of NYC). There are some famous residents in this community including Bill Murray. These are obviously exotic pets as we know that panthers never roamed the Northeast. Interesting topic!

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from John A Lutz wrote 3 years 32 weeks ago

In last 10 days, we have received 4 cougar reports, 1 in western Pendleton Co, WV & 3 in western Virginia.
Last nite, I sat in a barn with a horse who suffered deep gashes on its upper rump, that a vet & I considered from a mountain lion. Shortly after Midnite, the puma emitted her terrifying scream from high up on mountain to let me know she was close by.
Other current investigations of excellent reports are underway in eastern Highland Co, VA, from McDowell to Headwaters. If interested in sharing sightings, go to epuma@hardynet.com & tell us your experiences...

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from 007 wrote 2 years 24 weeks ago

Friend of mine not too far from here found a 6 pt. buck carcass 20' up in a big white oak a few years back. Doubtful the deer climbed the tree himself.

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from huntcamp wrote 5 years 15 hours ago

Here in WI they sat the same thing and then finally one was shot near Chicago, so they had to admit there was one. They however went back to their old ways and say that was the only one/ right. A good friend of mine saw a female carrying young. The one that was shot was a male. I think they say there aren't is so that people won't get scared and paranoid.

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from sickford66 wrote 4 years 11 weeks ago

i live in Kent, NY (Putnam County)Within the last month my son has spotted a 80lb mountian lion twice in our area around mid-day the area is fairly rural not a bobact or lynx which we have also seen over the years in this area, a full grown mountian lion..we havent reported it only beacause my brother who lives 6 miles away in Stormville ny, (Dutchass County)during this period spotted a mountian lion on his property and reported this to the DEC who basically claimed he didnt know what he was talking about and probably saw a large house cat, to which my brother reassured them that he has hunted and knows big game animals especially in daylight and 100ft from his driveway..my brother lives off the appalachian trail..i dont know why the DEC is so sarcastic about recording reported sightings.

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from Ontario Honker ... wrote 4 years 10 weeks ago

A few lions have surfaced up here in NW Ontario too. But these are all without a doubt someone's pet turned loose. One of them was particularly tame. I am totally in favor of states or provinces regulating the possession of these things. If you want a pet that can kill someone or send the local community into a panic or totally mess up the ecosystem, then we (i.e. the govt) should know about it and be able to keep an eye on things.

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from alabamaoutlaw wrote 4 years 9 weeks ago

Last year a mountain lion was killes in south Georgia and given to the wildlife division they say it come from the Florida cats.Documented,but they are here in the pal meta swamps of south Alabama also.

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from ggmack wrote 4 years 9 weeks ago

I grew up in DE and heard stories of bobcats, wild hogs, coyotes and mountain loins as long as i can remember. i have been in the fields and woods since i waas 8. i do not believe these creatures live in DE.

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from peisler wrote 3 years 36 weeks ago

We rented cabins in Quarryville, PA over the weekend and late Friday night my friend saw a mountain lion near my site. It was walking about 20 ft. away and stopped briefly and looked at him before running off. The next night we heard an unusual sound in the distance. It only lasted for a few minutes and we didn't hear it again. We searched online for sound bites of mountain lions, and I'm pretty sure that's what we heard.

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from PAShooter wrote 3 years 32 weeks ago

Back in the 1970's, I sighted Coyotes in my area. The PA Game denied that this could be true, well they don't now. I have not seen any Mt. Lions locally, but have some reputable friends who say the have.

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from charlotte wrote 3 years 31 weeks ago

Last Saturday at 5:15 Pm, my husband and i were sitting on our deck at the mountain house in Hallstead, Susquehanna County, PA a brown mountain lion appeared out of the brush. We were both in such shock to see it. We did not take a picture as he went back into the brush before it ever dawned on us to go get our camera. but we both saw him plain as day for a few minutes. I am a true believer that mountain lion are definately in Pennsylvania.

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from ThomB wrote 3 years 13 weeks ago

About 15 years a go, just outside Gibson, Susquehanna County, my dad and buddy were driving down a dirt road during deer season. And saw a large mature mountain lion cross the road in from of them. It seems they both got a real good look at the mountain lion. They told a few people who immediately said they were full of shxt or smoking pot. My dad recently passed away, and my buddy was reminscing about seeing the mountain lion w my dad.

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from WVOtter wrote 3 years 10 weeks ago

I saw one myself in PA a couple years ago in spring gobbler season. Was at my set up and about 50-60 yards from my right to left. No mistaking that blunt, roman nose and long tail. So I've got my proof they are around the east, don't need to take anyone elses word.

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from FrankM wrote 3 years 4 days ago

In Rhode Island, four separate sightings of a mountain lion, a carcass, and no corroboration from State officials.

http://southkingstown.patch.com/articles/matunuck-cat-sighting-not-a-mou...

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from shane wrote 3 years 2 days ago

There are a few of them around. Not many.

If you don't believe there are at least some, ask the guy in NE OH. He found a "kitten" on a rural road. Next thing he knows he's waking up face in the dirt in a world of hurt. Big cat tracks right by his head. Explain that one.

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from MATroutslayer wrote 2 years 42 weeks ago

We got 'em in Mass.

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from 007 wrote 2 years 24 weeks ago

I know this will look like I'm really reaching so please bear with me for a bit until I can tie it together. I was watching something last night about bigfoot, loch ness, yeti, and company and the "experts" were talking about how they would have to see physical proof of existence and how no one ever finds a carcass. We have a healthy bear population and I spend a fair amount of time in the woods but I've never seen a bear carcass so what makes folks think we'd find lion, bigfoot, or yeti carcasses lying around?

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from ja_demko wrote 2 years 23 weeks ago

One of my great uncles claimed to have seen one in the Punxsutawney PA area back in the mid-1970s. He got the horse laugh every time he mentioned it. At that time, though, seeing a bear in the same area was remarkable enough that it was something people talked about. Now bears are common enough in that place to have become pests. I've never personally seen a mountain lion or even any evidence of one, but that doesn't preclude their existance.

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from rabbitpolice88 wrote 5 years 13 hours ago

The GA DNR says the same thing, that there are not mountain lions in the North GA mountains. Again, like you said people have seen them found tracks and yes, even shot at them. These are not transplanted Florida panthers either. The GA DNR also says that there are not water moccassins in North GA. I personally have seen two and know many people that have killed them up here. Just because certain animals are not supposed to be there doesn't mean they aren't.

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from Taylor3535 wrote 5 years 12 hours ago

WVA?

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from Dakotah Dan wrote 4 years 10 weeks ago

As I stated on another thread, I grew up in the Black Hills of SD. There were occassional sitings of mountain lions which were always discounted as unsubstantiated, just as you report is happening in PA. Now, there is a Mountain Lion season in the Black Hills and western SD, and the pumas range far, as far as Sioux Falls on the far side of the state.

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from bamaoutdoorsman93 wrote 4 years 9 weeks ago

we have em down here too. My neighbors have seen and heard them. You could shoot one, load it on your truck and drop at DNR's feet and theyd call it a deformed coyote or obese lynx. Animals arent controlled by maps and districts. They follow food sources, not border lines.I read male mountain lions will often have territorries up to 175 miles. (http://www.bear-tracker.com/cougar.html) They will travel 30+ miles per night in search of food. I think that maybe, just maybe, theyll wander out of the little 'zones' that they are supposobly restricted to.

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from 86Ram wrote 4 years 9 weeks ago

Yes there are historical records of Mtn Lions (Cougars) in VA along with Bison and Elk.

There are sightings in the low country of VA as well. Recently in the newspaper (2009)from my home town There was reports of a possible Mtn Lion attacking dogs. There was even a picture of a large cat that could be a Mtn Lion or a large spotless Bobcat.. Hard for me to tell from the picture.

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from alabamaoutlaw wrote 4 years 9 weeks ago

I'm not going to call you out on this but if i were you i wouldn't bet any money on that statement i know coyotes have made it to Maine from the west,aren't you in between those two states?

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from alabamaoutlaw wrote 4 years 9 weeks ago

ggmack there was a coyote attack on a terrier in Delaware in 2009 in your state it is documented.

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from Sarge01 wrote 3 years 35 weeks ago

I consider myself a pretty fair trapper and have trapped in John Lutz back Yard ( Dolly Sods) for over 40 years. The area is about as remote as you will find. I have caught many many bobcats over the years but no mountain lions or did I see any tracks in the snow or any other sign. I have seen melted out bobgcat tracts that could have been mistaken for mountain lion tracks. When it was legal I used deer carcasses to trap with and the last time I read any thing that was a preferred food of mountain lions. My bear hunting buddies tell me that they have the finest dogs in the country and I have hunted with them and I know that to be true and they run their dogs 365 nights of the year over almost 100 % of the land and they tell me if there were any montain lions they would have treed one and they haven't treed one yet. I'm sorry but until I see one or proof of one (and the enhanced pictures floating on the internet aren't proof) I will not believe there are any here in eastern WV.

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from FirstBubba wrote 3 years 35 weeks ago

My state put up signs all along it's border in Cat-on-nese saying "No Cougars Welcome - Violaters WILL BE SHOT!!"
All the cougars left and we've not seen another since!
Unfortunately, the signs are getting covered with kitty graffiti!
One even wrote a pome (poem)!

I luv little mousies,
Little mousies is what I like to eat.
Biting off they little heads,
Nibble on they tiny feet!

Bubba

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from GERG wrote 3 years 35 weeks ago

I wont dispute any of the sightings that people say they have had. Don't want the argument. People are gonna believe what they're gonna believe. I am of the camp if you cant touch,feel or see a dead one up close, I'm doubtful. Have a friend says we have wolves in our part of AR. Said show me one. That's when the fight started>LOL We have had confirmed sightings of black bear where I live. Which I do believe . Young males get the wanderlust for new territories or the dominate male will kill him. I have seen things in the woods I cant identify but wont call it anything but "I don't know what it was"

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from Steve in Virginia wrote 3 years 33 weeks ago

We occasionally hear reports of sightings in Virginia, although I haven't seen pictures or talked to any witnesses directly. it wouldn't surprise me however.

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from steve182 wrote 3 years 32 weeks ago

I have heard of credible sightings in PA.

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from steve182 wrote 3 years 10 weeks ago

About 10 yrs back after my Dad, Uncle and Cousin saw a black mountain lion in NorthCentral PA not far behind our camp, there was much talk about Lions in the area with many locals claiming to have seen both the black and tawny specimens. One of my smart-alek campmates printed a flier with a Cougar picture on it and a "IF YOU SEE A MOUNTAIN LION IN PA CALL ... AT THIS NUMBER..."
Needless to see My Uncle received quite a few phonecalls much to his bewilderment. We still laugh about that often but the joke underscores the certainty of many who have seen them in this region.

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from scrawford8872 wrote 3 years 9 weeks ago

Yes, I believe that mountain lions are deff taking up residence in PA. I believe that the Pennsylvania State Game commission is reluctant to admit to having these animals roam their land because it would be a lot more work for them. The presence of an endangered animal means a lot of research, reports, and of course money spent. Mountain lions can be spotted in one place and not be seen again for many week to months because they roam and hunt extremely large areas.
http://www.pabucks.com/deer-hunting-forum/viewtopic.php?t=6819

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from platte river rat wrote 3 years 6 weeks ago

here in Nebraska it the old shoot and shovel thing---our game dept. says we don't have any of those things here----hahahaahahahhaahahha Its funny in the Omaha World Herald---biggest city biggest state newspaper-- in the past two years there have been pictures of mountain lions that were run over by trucks or automobiles on the front page right there in Omaha. wonder were they can from---didn't see any wings on them.

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from platte river rat wrote 3 years 6 weeks ago

here in Nebraska it the old shoot and shovel thing---our game dept. says we don't have any of those things here----hahahaahahahhaahahha Its funny in the Omaha World Herald---biggest city biggest state newspaper-- in the past two years there have been pictures of mountain lions that were run over by trucks or automobiles on the front page right there in Omaha. wonder were they can from---didn't see any wings on them.

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from rock rat wrote 2 years 42 weeks ago

It doesn't matter wether some one believes someone else or not. If you have deer your going to have cats. they got one in Fairfield CT the other day. We've had radio coollared ones range a thousand miles. They are good at living amongst people. Thicker than rabbiit's out here on
The front range. Open up a season before the bunny nuggets protect themk

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from Ed Pierson wrote 2 years 24 weeks ago

Coyotes, bobcats and Mountain lions are all very illusive animals that do not care to be seen, if they can help it. I know there have been sightings in the enlow area of south western PA. A female cougar with her cubs were seen there. So not only is it a mountain lion sighting, but there is breeding going on. This sighting was made by a Columbia Bas Geologist. Also a horse was attcked not far from there and the actual attck was witnessed by the owner as the big cat hung on the hourse rump before the horse danced it off. The PA Game Comission did nothing so the owner called the U S wildlife and fisheries and they investigated and they confirmed it as a cougar as they found some tracks in the dirt. I also have a friend who has a camp in Uniontown and he showed me the photo of a cougar carrying a big whitetail buck across his camp ground. The cat was frightenly big. Now whether they are being released here, or are the one time pets of people that have escaped. One thing is for sure. they are seen and they are feral cats, holding their own in the forests of PA.

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from jmshackelfo@aol.com wrote 2 years 24 weeks ago

007; I totally agree. I know there are mountain lions around here, in Colorado. The only time I have saw one is while driving, the sun was setting in front of me and I saw it dart out onto the road then it was gone. The only reason I know it was a lion is because of the tail.
I have heard a lot of people say we have wolves here in Colorado. But try to get the DOW to say that. It will never happen. I think the goverment ether doesn't really know or don't want people out hunting for them.
I'm kinda a big foot beleiver too though.
But back to the lions. They have an incredable range of travel and if they find a good food source they will settle in. I have no dout they could go to Pen. or really anywhere they want to.

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from JamesD wrote 2 years 22 weeks ago

The idea that these big cats were totally eradicated east of the Mississippi is an absurd myth. With their numbers dwindled down to a small few in very remote areas with bounties lifted and no real large populations to make hunting and trapping lucrative these animals were left alone for many years. These cats are mainly nocturnal hunters and loners by nature. As their populations increased they began to move back into areas they once occupied coming into contact with humans who now occupy these areas. Like many other species of wild life such as coyotes, whitetail deer, black bear and a whole lot of other animals suburbia has become a buffet complete with family pets and small rodents as appetizers with larger prey including humans on the menu. The problem many of these states have in acknowledging a breading population of these animals is that they are placed on the federal endangered species list and the states hands are tied when it comes to dealing with problem animals (see wolves) it is easier getting rid of bad criminals than bad animals.

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from Terry Smith wrote 47 weeks 5 days ago

About 3 months ago i saw a couger in a neighbors backyard off of white pond rd behind woodcliff,..i never said anything because noone woukd believe me....it is true

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from allegnmtn wrote 47 weeks 5 days ago

I've hunted, fished, hiked, backpacked, and worked in the most remote "PA Wilds" part of Pennsylvania for 100-150+ days a year for over 40 years. I've never seen or heard anything, found a kill, etc. that I remotely believed was a big cat. I keep trail cameras out year round in this same area. With all the hunting, trail cameras, etc. on the East coast, I think someone would have produced a carcass or a clear irrefutable photo by now. If they are here, they are very few and far between.

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from jhjimbo wrote 47 weeks 3 days ago

John Lutz,
About 4 or 5 months ago the New York State magazine "Conservationist" had a article about a mountain lion that was hit and killed by a car in Connecticut. A necropsy was performed and DNA traced it back to a pack of lions in Wyoming. State Conservation speculated it made the 1800 mile trip and got carried away looking for it's own territory - it was a young male.
There have been stories of Lions all over the Adirondacks and even here in Ohio they have been sighted. I think others are correct that the States do not want to admit to their existence so as not to worry outdoor enthusiast. But if that is the case then like one other post said, why do they list it as 'protected' ??
I think they should fess up if there is a potential for them to be present so outdoor people can take the appropriate cautions.
Jim

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from RJ Arena wrote 47 weeks 3 days ago

It took a long time for the eastern states to fess up regarding coyotes too!

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from libertyfirst wrote 3 years 35 weeks ago

The local paper had a story about a supposed sighting just last week and like all the others there is absolutely no evidence to support. No tracks , no scat, no pictures and no hair. In Maine we have a very large Bobcat population and hound hunters from all over the states come here in the winter to hunt. None have ever cut a cougar track. There are now hundreds of thousands of trail cameras in the woods here and non of them have ever recorded a picture of a cougar. I think that it's fairly safe to say that there are no cougars in my state

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from Sarge01 wrote 3 years 6 weeks ago

Today I read where the US fish and Wildlife Service and the Federal Government has declared the Eastern Cougar extinct.
They have been taken off of the endangered species list because thay have been declared extinct. They said if one is found it has been brought in from somewhere and released. I totally agree with them.

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from hunterkid94 wrote 5 years 12 hours ago

dont listen to those people in WVA. i live up there part of the time and it all started cuz one guy started that camp and now people accually fund his program! when i am up in wva im always in the outdoors and no one i know or me has ever seen a couger. once i see the man shoot one in front of my face ill beleive it.

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