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Fly Fishing

Soft Hackle flies

Uploaded on March 03, 2012

I've never fished soft hackle flies and don't know much about them. If anybody would care to enlighten, it would be appreciated. Thanks in advance..

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from Sayfu wrote 1 year 15 weeks ago

They are basically wet flies that fish best on the wet fly swing. Can be an emerging bug, or s stillborn, an adult that didn't make it, was trapped at the surface, dead, and is now awash in the run. There are always a number of these throughout the water column that fish feed on. I have a unique way of tying small ones especially that is featured in Sylvester Nemes last addition of "fishing the soft hackle fly". I fish a lot of soft hackles with lots of success. Soft hackles are in the water for a long duration rather than in the air, and fish will take the soft hackle while dragging where other methods of presentation entail a drag free drift...quite an advantage.

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from drbill45 wrote 1 year 12 weeks ago

Thanks. Have you tried any flourescent material?

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from Sayfu wrote 1 year 12 weeks ago

I have, and I use a flourescent thread as the abdomen on some of my soft hackles. I caught two large rainbows yesterday on a small, #18 softhackle in a lake. This time of year the only thing fish seem to be feeding on, and the bug food available are chironomids...those small, mosquito looking flies that appear to be mosquitoes when the fly off, but aren't. The fish often feed on the emerger, the worm like critter that hangs in the surface film. These were small in size, or I might say ave in size and were black. Some, on lakes, can be as big as size # 12. There were several adults in my boat that I could get a look at. I put on the small, black SH and fished it still in the film, and twitched it back like an adult emerger that didn't hatch out successfully. It was very slow fishing because the chironomid hatch was very slow...a fish here and there rising. If there had been a good hatch, I think I would have done very well. At this time of year, and cold water, that is what the fish target, and about all that is available for them. One big rainbow, a fat 18" er was especially enjoyable to catch because he rose within casting distance, and I made a cast, and the fly had to land where he had moved, and was looking because the take was right away just after the fly landed.

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from Sayfu wrote 1 year 8 weeks ago

Wow! Do I have a new softhackle fly that should be outlawed before it is even used! I've fished it at nite, and just before the strike I sit up in bed in a cold sweat!

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from haverodwilltravel wrote 38 weeks 6 days ago

Not much I can add to Sayfu's excellent explaination other than to add several of my favorites. The Peacock/Hungarian Partridge, The Hares Ear Hungarian Partridge, The Feather Quill body and Hungarian Partridge and The Yellow Floss and Woodcock.

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from Sayfu wrote 38 weeks 6 days ago

Been tying some "new and improved" :) softhackles. Had a very enjoyable experience on Friday. Ran my small jetboat upriver, and got out with my old fishing partner, and he fished a riffle upriver with a softhackle, and I went downriver, and fished a softhackle through a riffle. I caught one mid-sized brown trout. When I came back my partner had finished fishing his riffle, and caught 2 small trout. Out in the middle of his run was a windfall, a logjam, and I knew he hadn't waded far enough out to reach it. I got out to my waist, through one riffle flow, and into the next that had the windfall. Softhackle swung along the logs, and when it passed below there was one large swirl after the size #10 caddis/pupa hook softhackle, then another one, and the the 3rd swirl he took it...an 18" very large around brown trout. Made my day right off the getgo. I've been tying a new design. A small plastic bead head, and I get some wt. via medium sized wire. I tie some short tail fibers, then the wire is ribbed close up the abdomen, but I leave a small gap between the wire, as I wrap it up the shank. Then a feather is wrapped through the gaps...a feather prepared by pulling out the fibers, and trimming them close to the stem leaving about a 1/16 of an inch rt. angling out off the stem. The wire provides protection to the stem, and the fibers stick out like gills that can move in the current. The wire shows through. Then I bump up the thorax with peacock herl, or whatever you want to use, and then a longer soft hackle that extends all the way back. You can use whatever color scheme you want, but it sure does make for a good attractor softhackle when nothing specific is coming off the riffle, or you could make it specific to what has been coming off. The end of the day didn't end as anticipated. ON the run to the takeout we saw two older women stuck in a logjam with heavy current pressing against one of the women. I got out on the shallow side, was able to wade out far enough to throw them a rope, had them crawl one at a time up onto the logs, and then jump in off my side of the jam, and pulled them in to safety. They were totally exhausted, and had been in the jam for sometime. Both had rented a canoe!!!...and neither knew how to row! Incredible the ignorance I've seen on the river over time.

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from haverodwilltravel wrote 38 weeks 5 days ago

I love the rental canoe story. A river where I fish has so many rental canoeists and kayakers, you need to leave the water by 11:00 (tourists don't get up and out early)so you don't get run down.
One day I come around the bend and there is a man and a woman screaming help. I ran over thinking he was having a heart attack. They were in two feet of water up against a strainer. I waded over and asked them "What's wrong?"
She screams "What are you stupid! We're stuck!" . I told her "Lady, you're in two feet of water, why didn't you just get out?" to which the tourist replied "And get wet!'
I sent them on their way and didn't even get a thank you.
Same river I'm fishing in about 2 feet of water again and two tourists smash into my kidneys. Once again no sorry, instead she says "You're standing in our way."(the river is 100 yards across). I won't repeat what I said about their lineage and what they could do with their paddles, but next time I'm going to dump the tourists and see if they melt when wet. ;)

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from Sayfu wrote 38 weeks 4 days ago

Seen it many times in my days on the river. Nice warm day, and total novices out floating a trecherous river in some bathtub like boat. Canoes are one of the most dangerous crafts. Good chance these gals were goners. Nearing nitefall, few would have seen them, and they were totally exhausted, and could barely climb up on top of the windfall/log jam.

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from themadflyfisher wrote 23 weeks 22 hours ago

Clinchfu :)- I've been tying a wide variety of soft hackles lately. Up till last year I never really fished them(correctly that is). They've definitely proved themselves worthy a couple times. Any good patterns you care to share would be appreciated. Thanx.

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from Benbow P Cheesman wrote 22 weeks 5 days ago

Great stories about the canoes, but sad just the same. Most canoeists I've encountered have been both skilled and courteous. Re soft-hackles: it's tempting to wind the hackle as if tying a dryfly, and that's totally wrong. One to one-and-a-half winds, then tie it off. Another tip: to get the translucency in the body that you want, tie a strand of silver or gold tinsel over the hook shank first, then tie in the body material [I'm using Pearsall's silk,ordered online. Looking forward to fishing those new flies]. Another productive way to fish soft-hackles is with a small beadhead nymph as a dropper, and fish it in the tail of a riffle where the water starts to deepen. Tight lines!

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from themadflyfisher wrote 17 weeks 4 days ago

So I've been tying and experimenting with different patterns and I've noticed some beaded versions with the bead behind the hackle instead of in front by the hook eye as tradition. I can't seem to get the hackle to behave when I try doing this. Any tips would be great. I like the look of these flies with the bead hidden.

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from clinchknot wrote 17 weeks 3 days ago

I do not like it behind the hackle.The bead acts as the head, and it is much to the advantage of he tier, to wrap the hackle behind the bead. The feather is easily secured behind the bead, and protected. I can make several wraps with a feather of a somewhat shorter length, and then for effect either for color, or for a feather now wrapped over that one that has longer barbules, and again easily secured. I don't need a whip finish either. It is hard to describe, but it is Borger's twice under the wraps knot that is easy to tie off. I even like the bead farther forward than behind the feather. With the bead forward I have now finished the head right away! No crowding of the head, No varnish in the eye of the hook because I put some head cement behind the bead. And often I want the flash of the bead, or a black bead to appear as a bug head. Just tying in the feather by the tip makes securing the feather much easier. It gets pulled down behind the bead before wrapping, and doesn't come out as easily.

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from clinchknot wrote 17 weeks 3 days ago

Did you get it? I am putting on a fly tying demo on this very subject in Mar....tying soft hackles, and how to fish them. When they put the bead in front of the hackle the bead serves to hold the hackle fibers out away from the body...BUT, your bumped up thorax creating the body profile of a bug does that, either using dubbing to create the bumped up thorax, or peacock herl which I often use. The bead in front has lots of advantages.

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from themadflyfisher wrote 17 weeks 2 days ago

Clinch- I definitely see your points on the bead in front.

Also, I would love to attend your demo, but unfortunately we're a few thousand miles from one another.

Thanks for the tips & info. Always appreciated!

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from Sayfu wrote 1 year 15 weeks ago

They are basically wet flies that fish best on the wet fly swing. Can be an emerging bug, or s stillborn, an adult that didn't make it, was trapped at the surface, dead, and is now awash in the run. There are always a number of these throughout the water column that fish feed on. I have a unique way of tying small ones especially that is featured in Sylvester Nemes last addition of "fishing the soft hackle fly". I fish a lot of soft hackles with lots of success. Soft hackles are in the water for a long duration rather than in the air, and fish will take the soft hackle while dragging where other methods of presentation entail a drag free drift...quite an advantage.

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from haverodwilltravel wrote 38 weeks 5 days ago

I love the rental canoe story. A river where I fish has so many rental canoeists and kayakers, you need to leave the water by 11:00 (tourists don't get up and out early)so you don't get run down.
One day I come around the bend and there is a man and a woman screaming help. I ran over thinking he was having a heart attack. They were in two feet of water up against a strainer. I waded over and asked them "What's wrong?"
She screams "What are you stupid! We're stuck!" . I told her "Lady, you're in two feet of water, why didn't you just get out?" to which the tourist replied "And get wet!'
I sent them on their way and didn't even get a thank you.
Same river I'm fishing in about 2 feet of water again and two tourists smash into my kidneys. Once again no sorry, instead she says "You're standing in our way."(the river is 100 yards across). I won't repeat what I said about their lineage and what they could do with their paddles, but next time I'm going to dump the tourists and see if they melt when wet. ;)

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from Sayfu wrote 1 year 12 weeks ago

I have, and I use a flourescent thread as the abdomen on some of my soft hackles. I caught two large rainbows yesterday on a small, #18 softhackle in a lake. This time of year the only thing fish seem to be feeding on, and the bug food available are chironomids...those small, mosquito looking flies that appear to be mosquitoes when the fly off, but aren't. The fish often feed on the emerger, the worm like critter that hangs in the surface film. These were small in size, or I might say ave in size and were black. Some, on lakes, can be as big as size # 12. There were several adults in my boat that I could get a look at. I put on the small, black SH and fished it still in the film, and twitched it back like an adult emerger that didn't hatch out successfully. It was very slow fishing because the chironomid hatch was very slow...a fish here and there rising. If there had been a good hatch, I think I would have done very well. At this time of year, and cold water, that is what the fish target, and about all that is available for them. One big rainbow, a fat 18" er was especially enjoyable to catch because he rose within casting distance, and I made a cast, and the fly had to land where he had moved, and was looking because the take was right away just after the fly landed.

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from Sayfu wrote 1 year 8 weeks ago

Wow! Do I have a new softhackle fly that should be outlawed before it is even used! I've fished it at nite, and just before the strike I sit up in bed in a cold sweat!

+1 Good Comment? | | Report
from haverodwilltravel wrote 38 weeks 6 days ago

Not much I can add to Sayfu's excellent explaination other than to add several of my favorites. The Peacock/Hungarian Partridge, The Hares Ear Hungarian Partridge, The Feather Quill body and Hungarian Partridge and The Yellow Floss and Woodcock.

+1 Good Comment? | | Report
from Sayfu wrote 38 weeks 6 days ago

Been tying some "new and improved" :) softhackles. Had a very enjoyable experience on Friday. Ran my small jetboat upriver, and got out with my old fishing partner, and he fished a riffle upriver with a softhackle, and I went downriver, and fished a softhackle through a riffle. I caught one mid-sized brown trout. When I came back my partner had finished fishing his riffle, and caught 2 small trout. Out in the middle of his run was a windfall, a logjam, and I knew he hadn't waded far enough out to reach it. I got out to my waist, through one riffle flow, and into the next that had the windfall. Softhackle swung along the logs, and when it passed below there was one large swirl after the size #10 caddis/pupa hook softhackle, then another one, and the the 3rd swirl he took it...an 18" very large around brown trout. Made my day right off the getgo. I've been tying a new design. A small plastic bead head, and I get some wt. via medium sized wire. I tie some short tail fibers, then the wire is ribbed close up the abdomen, but I leave a small gap between the wire, as I wrap it up the shank. Then a feather is wrapped through the gaps...a feather prepared by pulling out the fibers, and trimming them close to the stem leaving about a 1/16 of an inch rt. angling out off the stem. The wire provides protection to the stem, and the fibers stick out like gills that can move in the current. The wire shows through. Then I bump up the thorax with peacock herl, or whatever you want to use, and then a longer soft hackle that extends all the way back. You can use whatever color scheme you want, but it sure does make for a good attractor softhackle when nothing specific is coming off the riffle, or you could make it specific to what has been coming off. The end of the day didn't end as anticipated. ON the run to the takeout we saw two older women stuck in a logjam with heavy current pressing against one of the women. I got out on the shallow side, was able to wade out far enough to throw them a rope, had them crawl one at a time up onto the logs, and then jump in off my side of the jam, and pulled them in to safety. They were totally exhausted, and had been in the jam for sometime. Both had rented a canoe!!!...and neither knew how to row! Incredible the ignorance I've seen on the river over time.

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from Benbow P Cheesman wrote 22 weeks 5 days ago

Great stories about the canoes, but sad just the same. Most canoeists I've encountered have been both skilled and courteous. Re soft-hackles: it's tempting to wind the hackle as if tying a dryfly, and that's totally wrong. One to one-and-a-half winds, then tie it off. Another tip: to get the translucency in the body that you want, tie a strand of silver or gold tinsel over the hook shank first, then tie in the body material [I'm using Pearsall's silk,ordered online. Looking forward to fishing those new flies]. Another productive way to fish soft-hackles is with a small beadhead nymph as a dropper, and fish it in the tail of a riffle where the water starts to deepen. Tight lines!

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from clinchknot wrote 17 weeks 3 days ago

I do not like it behind the hackle.The bead acts as the head, and it is much to the advantage of he tier, to wrap the hackle behind the bead. The feather is easily secured behind the bead, and protected. I can make several wraps with a feather of a somewhat shorter length, and then for effect either for color, or for a feather now wrapped over that one that has longer barbules, and again easily secured. I don't need a whip finish either. It is hard to describe, but it is Borger's twice under the wraps knot that is easy to tie off. I even like the bead farther forward than behind the feather. With the bead forward I have now finished the head right away! No crowding of the head, No varnish in the eye of the hook because I put some head cement behind the bead. And often I want the flash of the bead, or a black bead to appear as a bug head. Just tying in the feather by the tip makes securing the feather much easier. It gets pulled down behind the bead before wrapping, and doesn't come out as easily.

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from clinchknot wrote 17 weeks 3 days ago

Did you get it? I am putting on a fly tying demo on this very subject in Mar....tying soft hackles, and how to fish them. When they put the bead in front of the hackle the bead serves to hold the hackle fibers out away from the body...BUT, your bumped up thorax creating the body profile of a bug does that, either using dubbing to create the bumped up thorax, or peacock herl which I often use. The bead in front has lots of advantages.

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from drbill45 wrote 1 year 12 weeks ago

Thanks. Have you tried any flourescent material?

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from Sayfu wrote 38 weeks 4 days ago

Seen it many times in my days on the river. Nice warm day, and total novices out floating a trecherous river in some bathtub like boat. Canoes are one of the most dangerous crafts. Good chance these gals were goners. Nearing nitefall, few would have seen them, and they were totally exhausted, and could barely climb up on top of the windfall/log jam.

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from themadflyfisher wrote 23 weeks 22 hours ago

Clinchfu :)- I've been tying a wide variety of soft hackles lately. Up till last year I never really fished them(correctly that is). They've definitely proved themselves worthy a couple times. Any good patterns you care to share would be appreciated. Thanx.

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from themadflyfisher wrote 17 weeks 4 days ago

So I've been tying and experimenting with different patterns and I've noticed some beaded versions with the bead behind the hackle instead of in front by the hook eye as tradition. I can't seem to get the hackle to behave when I try doing this. Any tips would be great. I like the look of these flies with the bead hidden.

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from themadflyfisher wrote 17 weeks 2 days ago

Clinch- I definitely see your points on the bead in front.

Also, I would love to attend your demo, but unfortunately we're a few thousand miles from one another.

Thanks for the tips & info. Always appreciated!

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