Alot of times i will use a small jig head, either white,chartruse, blue or red tipped with a wax worm under a bobber if you are floating the deeper holes. this rig doesnt typically work on gravel. Usually i run an 8lb main line with a 6 or 4 lb 12-24 inch leiter depending on the clarity of the water and how active the fish are.

It's LEADER..you guys were messin up my mind trying to figure that out. The setting for the bobber should depend on the depth of the drift you are fishing. And the ideal setting should be above the fishes view, not down on the bottom. The other consideration is whether to use a slip bobber where the lure/bait drops to the depth, and the bobber rises to the stop, OR a fixed bobber. If your leader length is say, 5 ft. or less, and you use an 8-9 ft rod, I would use a fixed setting because they get down to the lures depth FASTER. Takes awhile for the bobber to get pulled to the bobber stop, and you can be by fish before that happens, and the bait gets down.

I think steelie, that if you worked on the cast, you could slow down your stroke, open up the loop, and land a 3-4ft. leader without fouling it up. Depends on how far you have to cast, how much room you have to cast, and what is behind you, but it can be done given you have that needed room, and don't have to cast that far. Casts like the Belgium cast for instance where there is little to no stop at the back of your cast..you are casting to your side, and making an OVAL cast like the "0" laid angled on its side never has the leader running into the flyline. Everything stays separated. There is always tension on the rod. Nothing snaps to a stop often causing the tangles. Great cast to learn.