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Trout Fishing

New to Fly Fishing

Uploaded on January 03, 2012

I am learning about fly fishing and it seems interesting to me. Could you give me some help on how to start out? What type of gear is needed? How do I find nearby trout streams? Also, how much does is cost to start out?

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from Hoski wrote 20 weeks 3 days ago

Cost? Depends on you. Many start out with a combo outfit from one of the bigger outlets like Cabela's, Bass Pro, Gander Mtn. etc. Typically around $100.00 will get you an outfit that'll be pre-spooled with line and backing. Decide what fish you'll be after and talk with the sales staff and they'll match you up with the correct weight rod.
You'll need waders if you don't already own a pair. A couple options there. (breathable or neoprene) Breathable are lighter and are best for warmer water, neoprene are heavier and keep you warmer in cold water. Keep in mind there are various thicknesses of neoprene too. Next will be stocking foot or boots. I prefer stocking foot but that'll be your choice.
Next you'll need some flies, again, talk with sales staff as packages of various sizes and flies are common.
Look at a few casting videos, or better yet find someone who'll coach you a little on casting. Take lessons if you can afford it.
Finally, don't worry too much about being an instant casting pro. You're going to get tangled up, create wind knots, and loose some flies. You may snag yourself occasionally so wear a hat and sunglasses.
I really want to stress not worrying too much about how you look to other anglers, just keep fishing and it'll come.
Remember, it's about having fun!

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from Sayfu wrote 20 weeks 2 days ago

Here's my advice...remember what is fun...not getting all tangled up, and no chance to catch any fish. Casting well, and catching fish IS fun! Make that your goal, and practice casting the right way. Practice casting the wrong way will just have you giving up on fly fishing. I've conducted fly fishing schools for 30 yrs. now. Feel free to ask any question about fly fishing you want...I don't know it all, but know a lot...take advantage of it, and best of all...it is FREEEEE!

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from fezzant wrote 20 weeks 2 days ago

A great way to get started is to walk into your local fly shop and start talking. They will know the best spots, techniques, and gear for your particular area. They will probably alos offer classes and guides if you are interested in them.

Another great resource is your local chapter of Trout Unlimited. They are pretty much the go-to guys for anything trout anywhere. www.tu.org

That doesn't mean you can only catch trout though: if it swims, you can catch it on a fly.

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from shenvalley wrote 19 weeks 4 days ago

Any used 'kit' (rod/reel/line/backing) will get you going. I say go used or entry level (cheaper) kit first. You won't be dissapointed if you try and sell your first kit when you upgrade. Look for a versatile (meaning various kinds/sizes of fish) is a 9' 5wt, weight forward floating line, medium-fast action kit. Checkout Cabelas/Bass Pro. Also take a trip to a local shop and spend $25 on a basic casting/knowledge class...they will most likely lend you a kit to try out. You'll need some flies in a plastic case (again get a kit that offers some woolly buggers, attractors/dries) that match (balance) with the line/wt/rod. Get a pair of forceps, a nail clipper and learn 2-3 knots. Using a net would be a decent thing to do (if you catch-and-release). If you plan on fishing in cooler water you'll need some chest waders (hip waders are nice too if you don't plan on ever getting deeper than your thighs). Eventually, if you like the challenge and reward of fly fishing you'll upgrade. My first rod/reel was a mid-range 7'6" 4wt medium/fast action. I bought it knowing I'd get more rods and reels.

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from shenvalley wrote 19 weeks 4 days ago

Oh, I forgot to mention. Get a book. IME the web has tooooooo much information. I bought both an LL Bean and Orvis guide. I ended up giving the LL Bean book to my brother along with my 7'6" 4wt rod/reel starter combo.

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from Sayfu wrote 19 weeks 3 days ago

shenvalley...Terrible advice!!!!! A good caster can not cast good with a cheap outfit that a caster can not throw a decent loop with!!! My GAWD! I have conducted many, many fly casting, fly fishing schools, and a recurring theme is...dad gives his young offspring a cheapo outfit that the kid brings to the casting pond. HE HAS NO CHANCE of learning to cast well!!!! NONE! You can not learn a decent casting stroke, and see decent results with a lousy outfit! Buy something that works!! And that doesn't entail a lot of money. Would a skier buy a lousy pair of skies to learn on? An instructor would know right away the person had little chance of learning.

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from shenvalley wrote 19 weeks 3 days ago

So all of those combos cabelas sells is crap!? What combo do you recommend? My first combo cost $400, a st Croix and Orvis Battenkill bar stock. It was sold to me by Harry Murray, who taught me the basic cast. Look him up. Also let me know what the name of your school is. I'm just saying...don't get suckered into thinking you need to spends hundreds to get started. So go ahead give some real advice, some real numbers to the beginner.

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from shenvalley wrote 19 weeks 3 days ago

Btw most people who are learnig/trying to ski rent skis. Oh and FYI...the local Orvis dealer here, gave me this advice....most beginners won't appreciate the technology that goes into a more expensive rod.

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from 007 wrote 19 weeks 3 days ago

Hey shenvalley, does your name reference the Shenandoah valley of Virginia and is your Orvis dealer Mossy Creek?

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from shenvalley wrote 19 weeks 3 days ago

I'll end posting with this. To the person who asked the question be wary of advice from 'instructors' that tout 'their way is the only way'. It's clear sayfu leaves no room for others opinions/experiences. Given his liberal use of all caps, it's evident he likes to shout to make his point—fine quality of an instructor. I'm sure he has a lot of fishing experience, but it's just a bit less valuable when so poorly delivered. Best to you on your start. I hope you stick with it despite the inevitable tangles, near misses and run-ins with bad attitudes. IMO, it's the latter that keeps more people from getting into the sport.

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from 007 wrote 19 weeks 3 days ago

Shenvalley, again, are you a local?

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from Sayfu wrote 19 weeks 2 days ago

shenvalley...I don' want to go back and read over psots, but I'm sure you said, just buy any old cheap rod, line, and reel. The right action rod means a lot..the right flex. Not a stiffo/biffo, and not a sloppy, very whippy rod. A med/fast, or med. action rod is fine. But my point is, you have to have decent equipment to learn on. And it does not have to be expensive. Sure, Cabelas has some good stuff. I would want to know the action of the rod that I was buying. I taught fly schools now for 30 yrs. I taught with another guy, the VERY FIRST SAGE ROD fly casting schools. We started the Sage Rod Fly Casting Schools.

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from jamesti wrote 18 weeks 5 days ago

i'm still using the combo i got from walmart several years ago and i catch fish.

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from Sayfu wrote 18 weeks 5 days ago

jamesti...That is a very meaningless statement although your Walmart combo could be quite adequate. The message is to get something that is adequate, and will allow you to learn, and improve with.

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from tybow99 wrote 18 weeks 1 day ago

Where are trout streams near Omaha, Nebraska???

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from Sayfu wrote 18 weeks 23 hours ago

And as a note. I go into a WalMart flyfishing shop all the time, and scrutinize their rods, and combos. They have some very decent stuff. Not every WalMart store has a flyshop. They are not very well equipped, and can not be called a complete flyshop by any means, but they do have the basic necessities. In my WalMart flyshop several guys that work there are quite knowledgeable, and can help beginning anglers. That is the key. Get what you need, and not how expensive it is...doesn't have to be expensive these days.

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from Bill Riley wrote 17 weeks 2 days ago

The best advice anyone can give some one about starting out fly fishing is not to expect to catch fish. Work on your casting first.Most of the entry level kits are pretty good,dont over spend on equipment than think you are a pro!Once you have your casting down the you can find a place to catch smallmouth,they seem to be always willing to take a wollybugger,that way you can get the feel for catching fish.You can get set up for a couple of hundred bucks including hip boots,then you can replace the equipment as you go.The most important thing is don't get discouraged it will come to you in time,remember when you started out fishing all together I'll bet there were a lot of fishless days.

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from Sayfu wrote 13 weeks 4 days ago

Here is an approach that I got extremely excited about. I enjoy taking young anglers flyfishing out of one of my boats...either a small jetboat that I run up river, and we get out, OR, a float in my driftboat. I got excited about soft hackle fishing, developing attractive soft hackles, and swinging them in the current wet fly style. If a young guy was serious about flyfishing, and could hit the water with a soft hackle, I could get them to mend, follow the soft hackle with the rod tip, and catch fish. The strike was exciting on the swing, and the angler did not have to fish the soft hackle dead drift like he had to fishing a dry fly in order to catch fish. Good results right off the getgo goes a long way to making a fly angler. I had a number of exciting days on the river with high schoolers that caught a number of fish swinging a soft hackle.

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from Hoski wrote 20 weeks 3 days ago

Cost? Depends on you. Many start out with a combo outfit from one of the bigger outlets like Cabela's, Bass Pro, Gander Mtn. etc. Typically around $100.00 will get you an outfit that'll be pre-spooled with line and backing. Decide what fish you'll be after and talk with the sales staff and they'll match you up with the correct weight rod.
You'll need waders if you don't already own a pair. A couple options there. (breathable or neoprene) Breathable are lighter and are best for warmer water, neoprene are heavier and keep you warmer in cold water. Keep in mind there are various thicknesses of neoprene too. Next will be stocking foot or boots. I prefer stocking foot but that'll be your choice.
Next you'll need some flies, again, talk with sales staff as packages of various sizes and flies are common.
Look at a few casting videos, or better yet find someone who'll coach you a little on casting. Take lessons if you can afford it.
Finally, don't worry too much about being an instant casting pro. You're going to get tangled up, create wind knots, and loose some flies. You may snag yourself occasionally so wear a hat and sunglasses.
I really want to stress not worrying too much about how you look to other anglers, just keep fishing and it'll come.
Remember, it's about having fun!

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from shenvalley wrote 19 weeks 3 days ago

Btw most people who are learnig/trying to ski rent skis. Oh and FYI...the local Orvis dealer here, gave me this advice....most beginners won't appreciate the technology that goes into a more expensive rod.

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from shenvalley wrote 19 weeks 3 days ago

I'll end posting with this. To the person who asked the question be wary of advice from 'instructors' that tout 'their way is the only way'. It's clear sayfu leaves no room for others opinions/experiences. Given his liberal use of all caps, it's evident he likes to shout to make his point—fine quality of an instructor. I'm sure he has a lot of fishing experience, but it's just a bit less valuable when so poorly delivered. Best to you on your start. I hope you stick with it despite the inevitable tangles, near misses and run-ins with bad attitudes. IMO, it's the latter that keeps more people from getting into the sport.

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from Sayfu wrote 18 weeks 23 hours ago

And as a note. I go into a WalMart flyfishing shop all the time, and scrutinize their rods, and combos. They have some very decent stuff. Not every WalMart store has a flyshop. They are not very well equipped, and can not be called a complete flyshop by any means, but they do have the basic necessities. In my WalMart flyshop several guys that work there are quite knowledgeable, and can help beginning anglers. That is the key. Get what you need, and not how expensive it is...doesn't have to be expensive these days.

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from Sayfu wrote 20 weeks 2 days ago

Here's my advice...remember what is fun...not getting all tangled up, and no chance to catch any fish. Casting well, and catching fish IS fun! Make that your goal, and practice casting the right way. Practice casting the wrong way will just have you giving up on fly fishing. I've conducted fly fishing schools for 30 yrs. now. Feel free to ask any question about fly fishing you want...I don't know it all, but know a lot...take advantage of it, and best of all...it is FREEEEE!

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from fezzant wrote 20 weeks 2 days ago

A great way to get started is to walk into your local fly shop and start talking. They will know the best spots, techniques, and gear for your particular area. They will probably alos offer classes and guides if you are interested in them.

Another great resource is your local chapter of Trout Unlimited. They are pretty much the go-to guys for anything trout anywhere. www.tu.org

That doesn't mean you can only catch trout though: if it swims, you can catch it on a fly.

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from tybow99 wrote 18 weeks 1 day ago

Where are trout streams near Omaha, Nebraska???

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from shenvalley wrote 19 weeks 4 days ago

Any used 'kit' (rod/reel/line/backing) will get you going. I say go used or entry level (cheaper) kit first. You won't be dissapointed if you try and sell your first kit when you upgrade. Look for a versatile (meaning various kinds/sizes of fish) is a 9' 5wt, weight forward floating line, medium-fast action kit. Checkout Cabelas/Bass Pro. Also take a trip to a local shop and spend $25 on a basic casting/knowledge class...they will most likely lend you a kit to try out. You'll need some flies in a plastic case (again get a kit that offers some woolly buggers, attractors/dries) that match (balance) with the line/wt/rod. Get a pair of forceps, a nail clipper and learn 2-3 knots. Using a net would be a decent thing to do (if you catch-and-release). If you plan on fishing in cooler water you'll need some chest waders (hip waders are nice too if you don't plan on ever getting deeper than your thighs). Eventually, if you like the challenge and reward of fly fishing you'll upgrade. My first rod/reel was a mid-range 7'6" 4wt medium/fast action. I bought it knowing I'd get more rods and reels.

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from shenvalley wrote 19 weeks 4 days ago

Oh, I forgot to mention. Get a book. IME the web has tooooooo much information. I bought both an LL Bean and Orvis guide. I ended up giving the LL Bean book to my brother along with my 7'6" 4wt rod/reel starter combo.

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from shenvalley wrote 19 weeks 3 days ago

So all of those combos cabelas sells is crap!? What combo do you recommend? My first combo cost $400, a st Croix and Orvis Battenkill bar stock. It was sold to me by Harry Murray, who taught me the basic cast. Look him up. Also let me know what the name of your school is. I'm just saying...don't get suckered into thinking you need to spends hundreds to get started. So go ahead give some real advice, some real numbers to the beginner.

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from 007 wrote 19 weeks 3 days ago

Hey shenvalley, does your name reference the Shenandoah valley of Virginia and is your Orvis dealer Mossy Creek?

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from 007 wrote 19 weeks 3 days ago

Shenvalley, again, are you a local?

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from jamesti wrote 18 weeks 5 days ago

i'm still using the combo i got from walmart several years ago and i catch fish.

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from Bill Riley wrote 17 weeks 2 days ago

The best advice anyone can give some one about starting out fly fishing is not to expect to catch fish. Work on your casting first.Most of the entry level kits are pretty good,dont over spend on equipment than think you are a pro!Once you have your casting down the you can find a place to catch smallmouth,they seem to be always willing to take a wollybugger,that way you can get the feel for catching fish.You can get set up for a couple of hundred bucks including hip boots,then you can replace the equipment as you go.The most important thing is don't get discouraged it will come to you in time,remember when you started out fishing all together I'll bet there were a lot of fishless days.

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from Sayfu wrote 13 weeks 4 days ago

Here is an approach that I got extremely excited about. I enjoy taking young anglers flyfishing out of one of my boats...either a small jetboat that I run up river, and we get out, OR, a float in my driftboat. I got excited about soft hackle fishing, developing attractive soft hackles, and swinging them in the current wet fly style. If a young guy was serious about flyfishing, and could hit the water with a soft hackle, I could get them to mend, follow the soft hackle with the rod tip, and catch fish. The strike was exciting on the swing, and the angler did not have to fish the soft hackle dead drift like he had to fishing a dry fly in order to catch fish. Good results right off the getgo goes a long way to making a fly angler. I had a number of exciting days on the river with high schoolers that caught a number of fish swinging a soft hackle.

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from Sayfu wrote 19 weeks 2 days ago

shenvalley...I don' want to go back and read over psots, but I'm sure you said, just buy any old cheap rod, line, and reel. The right action rod means a lot..the right flex. Not a stiffo/biffo, and not a sloppy, very whippy rod. A med/fast, or med. action rod is fine. But my point is, you have to have decent equipment to learn on. And it does not have to be expensive. Sure, Cabelas has some good stuff. I would want to know the action of the rod that I was buying. I taught fly schools now for 30 yrs. I taught with another guy, the VERY FIRST SAGE ROD fly casting schools. We started the Sage Rod Fly Casting Schools.

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from Sayfu wrote 18 weeks 5 days ago

jamesti...That is a very meaningless statement although your Walmart combo could be quite adequate. The message is to get something that is adequate, and will allow you to learn, and improve with.

-1 Good Comment? | | Report
from Sayfu wrote 19 weeks 3 days ago

shenvalley...Terrible advice!!!!! A good caster can not cast good with a cheap outfit that a caster can not throw a decent loop with!!! My GAWD! I have conducted many, many fly casting, fly fishing schools, and a recurring theme is...dad gives his young offspring a cheapo outfit that the kid brings to the casting pond. HE HAS NO CHANCE of learning to cast well!!!! NONE! You can not learn a decent casting stroke, and see decent results with a lousy outfit! Buy something that works!! And that doesn't entail a lot of money. Would a skier buy a lousy pair of skies to learn on? An instructor would know right away the person had little chance of learning.

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