Best bet out of those are the 11-87 but i will still recoil pretty good. If you want guns that dont recoil you got to spend the money for the two proven softest shooting guns the x3 and maxus. Although heard great things about the new remington versa max and it is supposed to be a soft recoiling gun.

Remington makes a 11-87 that has a wood stock now, that would be my choice if I were buying a new shotgun. My Remington 1100 has been great.

mdpaulos....I'd like to hear from Phil on that one...the 11-87 should not recoil anymore than the guns you mentioned, more than likely less because the 11-87 is heavier than those guns I do believe. All are gas operated, and all should utilize some gas in recycling so the kick is basically the same...wt. makes the difference...the heavier the gun the less kick...simple physics.

Sweeeeet gun Ontario that Browning Light 12...Didn't sell that well because of only 2 shots, but most of the time that is all you need,.. the 3rd becomes a wasted shot...light wt. rolled over receiver rather than that square back, and flawless. The 2nd shell sits right there in line to enter the chamber. My buddy has one, and wish I had the gun.

I was thinking of the Twelvette. And no, I am not up on dog trainers in Idaho. If labs probably. Don't even know what the "answer section" is.

Ontario...I get there by the front page, not this top of the page, and ANSWERS..But anyway, didn't see the guys question on dog trainers. I know some lab trainers, or contacts anyway. Worked my two labs yesterday, and marvel at my new E-collars. I have complete control of both dogs, and can stop along hwys that I never could take the chance of doing before. I have one male lab that will range out too far at times, and it takes but a click of the "beep" sound button that I can not hear up close, but the dog can, and he knows right away that he is too far out, and will turn, and work his way back. Man!..and my years of yelling, and then scolding WAY after the time of learning had passed far by.

If toting a heavy gun is not a problem, 11/87 all the way. If recoil is a problem, a heavier gun will kick less than a light gun so the 11/87 may be the answer.
I shot a 390 Beretta in skeet comp for a year or so and it was a great gun, very soft and reliable and somewhat lighter than the 11/87.
All that said, my waterfowl gun for the last 15 or so years has been an 11/87 SP, but the Maxus will be what I take to the dove field and to So. Dakota pheasant hunting this fall.

Sayfu,
The poster said he had shoulder surgery, I'm assuming rotator cuff and given he has 2 870's and a Citori, my perception was that he was trying to get away from recoil in that an 870 is not an extremely heavy gun, nor is the Citori.
Excuse me for being presumptous, would the poster please be more specific as to what it is he desires in this new shotgun, besides low recoil in order to pacify Sayfu. It may very well be that a 20 ga is what you have to look at to achieve the goal.

Today they make light kicking autoloaders that weigh less than 7 lbs in a 12 ga....a vast improvement over the old, big heavies if you are an upland bird hunter. I am approaching 70 yrs old now, and still hunt the fields using one of the new, lt. wt. autos. Mine is a 20 ga., but I've thought that I could carry one of the new, lt wt 12's as well. My hunting would have been done long ago where it not for the new lt. wts.