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I've heard alot of stories and accounts saying yes and no,so heres the question.If all this person has at the time is a 12 gauge shotgun and loaded with 3"mag federal power shok slugs will he be able to kill a grizzly bear at close range to protect himself????
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Yes, a 12 gauge stuffed full of slugs has to be one of the best bear stoppers around.
Yes, that is why many Alaska guides carry them fishing.
I read a story and I don't know if it is true but here goes. I want to make clear I am not claiming this is factual and I am not endorsing the validness of this story, I'm simply telling you what I read.
A fellow was hunting fowl in africa with his PH and they stumbled upon a rhino. The PH was shooting fowl with his client and neither had a "stopping" rifle. Long story short, the rhino charged, the PH told the client not to shoot until the the rhino was on top of them. When the rhino got within a few yards, both the client and PH discharged both barrels of their shot guns on the rhino, and the story goes that the rhino's momentum caused it to still hit the hunter and PH but the rhino was killed and the PH and Hunter were unscaved. I guess the four shells unleashed against the rhino at such close proximity was enough to kill the beast, even with bird shot.
Again, I don't know if this is true or not,(personally I find it a little far fetched but who knows) I'm merely paraphrasing an article I read. THere was pictures in the article and I'll try to find it again and post a link to it.
In summary, i guess I wouldn't doubt a 12ga with slugs could take down a bear.
Bird hunters stumbling onto a rhino, the PH having time or thought to tell the client to wait until the rhino is on top of them to shoot. Think about that, in fact think a lot about that...Maybe
The National Park Service arms rangers in Alaska with 12 gauge slugs. Curiously, the Forest Service uses .375 H&H. I think that the shotgun would be better for unknowledgeable users. It doesn't take much wherewithall to pump, eject, and load a shell. But I have seen a lot of folks get flustered with a bolt action when trying to reload and shoot just a deer. I can't imagine how they'd do if a half ton bruin was bearing down on them at 60 mph!
slugs make a BIG hole.
I have even heard of people loading a single bird shot first with the intention of shooting the eyes of a charging bear, blinding him/her then finishing it off with the remaining slugs. Don't know if it works of that I trust it, but I have heard of it.
my $0.02 is that if a bear is charging me as I am running away I am going to shoot it with anything I have on me. Even a .22LR
I have to believe if I were on foot in grizzly country, I'd most definitely be packing heat. If I were hunting, I'd have my bolt rifle. If I were doing anything else, I'd have my 870 magnum plump full of 3" slugs. And a cargo pocket full of spares.
Back in 87 or was it 88? anyhow, a Alaska Wildlife Biologist killed a charging Grizz with on shot. The slug entered the skull into the brain through one of the eye sockets. All the Pro's says She was one lucky Wildlife Biologist!
Slugs don't have the bone busting and penetration as do a 30 cal or larger!
I've been told by Elders in Alaska, it's taking the charge out of the bear what they learned and 2 3/4 inch 1 1/2oz of #6's in the face at close range works great. The say it's like a beehive hitting them in the face!
yes slugs can do a lot of damage
That is probably the best thing that I know of to stop a griz. There aren't too many animals that can handle a 1 once hunk of lead in the proper place.
It has finally dawned on outsidders that the wolves in the northern Rockies are eating the winter killed animals prior to the bears emerging from hibernation. This leave the bruins in a position to search even more for food and, no doubt, will create even more human vs grizzly encounters. Man will get blamed for killing the bear who attacks him but which critter is the real villian? No not the wolf as he is only being a wolf. The criminal in this scenario is the wolf huggers who misplaced the canines with reintroduction.
#6 birdshot in the face!
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Yes, a 12 gauge stuffed full of slugs has to be one of the best bear stoppers around.
Yes, that is why many Alaska guides carry them fishing.
slugs make a BIG hole.
my $0.02 is that if a bear is charging me as I am running away I am going to shoot it with anything I have on me. Even a .22LR
Back in 87 or was it 88? anyhow, a Alaska Wildlife Biologist killed a charging Grizz with on shot. The slug entered the skull into the brain through one of the eye sockets. All the Pro's says She was one lucky Wildlife Biologist!
Slugs don't have the bone busting and penetration as do a 30 cal or larger!
I've been told by Elders in Alaska, it's taking the charge out of the bear what they learned and 2 3/4 inch 1 1/2oz of #6's in the face at close range works great. The say it's like a beehive hitting them in the face!
That is probably the best thing that I know of to stop a griz. There aren't too many animals that can handle a 1 once hunk of lead in the proper place.
It has finally dawned on outsidders that the wolves in the northern Rockies are eating the winter killed animals prior to the bears emerging from hibernation. This leave the bruins in a position to search even more for food and, no doubt, will create even more human vs grizzly encounters. Man will get blamed for killing the bear who attacks him but which critter is the real villian? No not the wolf as he is only being a wolf. The criminal in this scenario is the wolf huggers who misplaced the canines with reintroduction.
I read a story and I don't know if it is true but here goes. I want to make clear I am not claiming this is factual and I am not endorsing the validness of this story, I'm simply telling you what I read.
A fellow was hunting fowl in africa with his PH and they stumbled upon a rhino. The PH was shooting fowl with his client and neither had a "stopping" rifle. Long story short, the rhino charged, the PH told the client not to shoot until the the rhino was on top of them. When the rhino got within a few yards, both the client and PH discharged both barrels of their shot guns on the rhino, and the story goes that the rhino's momentum caused it to still hit the hunter and PH but the rhino was killed and the PH and Hunter were unscaved. I guess the four shells unleashed against the rhino at such close proximity was enough to kill the beast, even with bird shot.
Again, I don't know if this is true or not,(personally I find it a little far fetched but who knows) I'm merely paraphrasing an article I read. THere was pictures in the article and I'll try to find it again and post a link to it.
In summary, i guess I wouldn't doubt a 12ga with slugs could take down a bear.
Bird hunters stumbling onto a rhino, the PH having time or thought to tell the client to wait until the rhino is on top of them to shoot. Think about that, in fact think a lot about that...Maybe
The National Park Service arms rangers in Alaska with 12 gauge slugs. Curiously, the Forest Service uses .375 H&H. I think that the shotgun would be better for unknowledgeable users. It doesn't take much wherewithall to pump, eject, and load a shell. But I have seen a lot of folks get flustered with a bolt action when trying to reload and shoot just a deer. I can't imagine how they'd do if a half ton bruin was bearing down on them at 60 mph!
I have even heard of people loading a single bird shot first with the intention of shooting the eyes of a charging bear, blinding him/her then finishing it off with the remaining slugs. Don't know if it works of that I trust it, but I have heard of it.
I have to believe if I were on foot in grizzly country, I'd most definitely be packing heat. If I were hunting, I'd have my bolt rifle. If I were doing anything else, I'd have my 870 magnum plump full of 3" slugs. And a cargo pocket full of spares.
yes slugs can do a lot of damage
#6 birdshot in the face!
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