Deer Hunting
I'm looking to buy a deer rifle that can handle bigger game at a convenient price. Anything helps I'm a newcomer to buying rifles.
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Check out these two:
The new Ruger American rifle in .30-06 retailing for about $350. Add a $150 to $200 scope in 3x9x40 and a sling to finish the package.
http://ruger.com/products/americanRifle/models.html
Tikka T3 Lite rifle in .30-06 retailing in the $650 to $700 range. Add scope and sling.
http://www.tikka.fi/t3models.php?lite
a Savage 114 or 14 can be had in .30/06 or .308 for less than $700. It's perhaps the only pretty rifle Savage makes and will outshoot much more spendy(and prettier) guns.
Pig Hunter makes two great suggestions and so does steve182. I'm curious about how the new Ruger American feels.
I'd like to add what I use: Marlin 336, 30-30. Scoped. I will note, that I am more accurate with 150gr bullets than I am with the 170gr.
You could also get the Marlin in .35 Rem, which would get you to 200gr bullets if you like.
Of course, I'm not a long range shooter, so I don't know what your typical situation might be.
For money Steve gives best option in a Savage. Savage usually are not the most pretty rifles but they are as accurate as you can buy. Also the model steve listed is the only gun they make that does not hurt the eye. However synthetic stocks are more accurate and take the elements better than wood. .308 or .280 would be my choice for deer or bigger game but the 25-06 would not be out of the question. If only deer than I would never go bigger than a .243 as everthing else is just over kill.
If I wanted to handle bigger game than deer I would use my 300WSM. I use it for deer too but I think I would feel more comfortable for the bigger critters with the 300WSM.
Im interested in the ruger as well. I'm leaning more towards wood grain rather because I havent had the opportunity to shoot synthetic yet. I'm comfortable shooting squirrels with a .264
whoa what? Squirrels with a .264?
Get a Savage model 116 or 16 in 30-06 or 308. Shop around a bit, and you'll find a deal somewhere, and if you don't need it tomorrow wait until the right deal lands in your lap. I got my 116 out the door for $529.00, brand new. So do some shopping.
Trevmo is hunting Area 51!
All of the above reccomendations are reasonable. For my 2 cents, I would also suggest a Savage 7mm.
All of that being said, if you go to a good gun shop, they should be able to set you up with a good quality used rifle for considerably less than new. Ask around to find a reputable shop, tell them what you are looking for and what you expect to be hunting, and they will happily set you up with a great gun.
Don't try this at a pawn shop or a crappy gun shop unless you REALLY know what you are doing, or you may end up with a bad, or worse, unsafe, gun.
I would encourage you to look at the Marlin X7 series. Like a Savage, they are not expensive and shoot very well out of the box. A nice caliber for deer and other game is the .308. You should be able to find a black synthetic stock with blued barrel for $375 or less.
I own both a Savage and a Marlin and am very happy with the accuracy of both guns!
I'm seeing irresistibly priced (under $400) Weatherby Vanguard synthetics in .308 Win and .270 Win in Portland gunshops. Top that with a Redfield 3-9X, and that's a difficult combination to beat for the price!
I'm with EJP. The Weatherby Vanguard or Howa 1500s are amazingly accurate in the $350 range (I got a used 30-06 stainless for $375) and that is one of the top hunting/accuracy actions available and the adjustable trigger is decent even for target shooting. I topped it with a used Nikon Monarch 2.5-10x40 ($250) off ebay. I left the tupperware stock on but free floated the barrel and glass bedded it ($25). It shoots .750 groups with $18/box factory ammo. I still have to test but I expect at least 1/2 inch groups or better with tuned reloads. Some day, I will probably buy a drop in Bell and Carlson stock for $205. At that point, it will be both pretty and functional. Hard to beat for under $2000.
Another vote for the Vanguard in a good ol 270 or 30-06.
Thanks for the input everybody, I'm looking at all of them still as options. Their certainly not bad prices. As far as big game goes other than deer, I'm looking into boar hunting because there are tons in my area.
For sure the (new) weatherby vangaurd is probably the number one choice. But If you want to go with made in U.S.A. then you have the savage, the T/C Venture which is awesome (I have two), or the ruger American.
Trevmo, any good deer rifle will drop feral pigs. Just make sure you use bullets designed to hold together. I lost a nice boar several years ago shooting it in the shoulder with a Nosler Ballistic Tip. My guess is the bullet expanded too fast and fragmented, not causing enough damage for an immediate kill. Even the small pigs are tougher than the corresponding size deer and their blood clots very quickly which can cause for problems in tracking.
Good luck in your rifle selection, have fun, and be safe!
I'm leaning towards the Ruger American. I think I'd have more opportunities to harvest pigs off of my friend's ranch. I've heard a 30-06, which the ruger american runs, is ideal for pigs but not as ideal for deer. Any problems running a 30-06 on deer? Positive and negative aspects?
I'm leaning towards the Ruger American. I think I'd have more opportunities to harvest pigs off of my friend's ranch. I've heard a 30-06, which the ruger american runs, is ideal for pigs but not as ideal for deer. Any problems running a 30-06 on deer? Positive and negative aspects?
And how do you guys feel about the tikka t3? That doesn't look like a bad price for a non synthetic? I know they say that the Ruger American shares positive characteristics of a tikka.
I have had 6 Tikka T3's in 22-250, 7MM-08, .308, .338 Federal, .270 WSM, 300WSM and they have all been super rifles. There is no smoother bolt around and the accuracy is second to none for a production rifle. You can't go wrong with a Tikka. The 30-06 is a fine round for hogs and deer alike.
Sarge, what versions are your Tikka T3's? Do you like the Lite models or do you prefer another variation?
Tikka T3 Lites all of them. I have traded a couple of them and have given a couple of them to my grandsons. They are some of the best rifles that I have had. I have trimmed my inventory down some and passed some firearms along to the next generation to use so I can see them enjoy them. After I'm gone I can't see them enjoy the firearms.
Thanks for the feedback Sarge. Good idea about sharing with the next generation.
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Check out these two:
The new Ruger American rifle in .30-06 retailing for about $350. Add a $150 to $200 scope in 3x9x40 and a sling to finish the package.
http://ruger.com/products/americanRifle/models.html
Tikka T3 Lite rifle in .30-06 retailing in the $650 to $700 range. Add scope and sling.
http://www.tikka.fi/t3models.php?lite
a Savage 114 or 14 can be had in .30/06 or .308 for less than $700. It's perhaps the only pretty rifle Savage makes and will outshoot much more spendy(and prettier) guns.
Trevmo is hunting Area 51!
Pig Hunter makes two great suggestions and so does steve182. I'm curious about how the new Ruger American feels.
I'd like to add what I use: Marlin 336, 30-30. Scoped. I will note, that I am more accurate with 150gr bullets than I am with the 170gr.
You could also get the Marlin in .35 Rem, which would get you to 200gr bullets if you like.
Of course, I'm not a long range shooter, so I don't know what your typical situation might be.
For money Steve gives best option in a Savage. Savage usually are not the most pretty rifles but they are as accurate as you can buy. Also the model steve listed is the only gun they make that does not hurt the eye. However synthetic stocks are more accurate and take the elements better than wood. .308 or .280 would be my choice for deer or bigger game but the 25-06 would not be out of the question. If only deer than I would never go bigger than a .243 as everthing else is just over kill.
If I wanted to handle bigger game than deer I would use my 300WSM. I use it for deer too but I think I would feel more comfortable for the bigger critters with the 300WSM.
whoa what? Squirrels with a .264?
Get a Savage model 116 or 16 in 30-06 or 308. Shop around a bit, and you'll find a deal somewhere, and if you don't need it tomorrow wait until the right deal lands in your lap. I got my 116 out the door for $529.00, brand new. So do some shopping.
All of the above reccomendations are reasonable. For my 2 cents, I would also suggest a Savage 7mm.
All of that being said, if you go to a good gun shop, they should be able to set you up with a good quality used rifle for considerably less than new. Ask around to find a reputable shop, tell them what you are looking for and what you expect to be hunting, and they will happily set you up with a great gun.
Don't try this at a pawn shop or a crappy gun shop unless you REALLY know what you are doing, or you may end up with a bad, or worse, unsafe, gun.
I'm seeing irresistibly priced (under $400) Weatherby Vanguard synthetics in .308 Win and .270 Win in Portland gunshops. Top that with a Redfield 3-9X, and that's a difficult combination to beat for the price!
I'm with EJP. The Weatherby Vanguard or Howa 1500s are amazingly accurate in the $350 range (I got a used 30-06 stainless for $375) and that is one of the top hunting/accuracy actions available and the adjustable trigger is decent even for target shooting. I topped it with a used Nikon Monarch 2.5-10x40 ($250) off ebay. I left the tupperware stock on but free floated the barrel and glass bedded it ($25). It shoots .750 groups with $18/box factory ammo. I still have to test but I expect at least 1/2 inch groups or better with tuned reloads. Some day, I will probably buy a drop in Bell and Carlson stock for $205. At that point, it will be both pretty and functional. Hard to beat for under $2000.
I have had 6 Tikka T3's in 22-250, 7MM-08, .308, .338 Federal, .270 WSM, 300WSM and they have all been super rifles. There is no smoother bolt around and the accuracy is second to none for a production rifle. You can't go wrong with a Tikka. The 30-06 is a fine round for hogs and deer alike.
Im interested in the ruger as well. I'm leaning more towards wood grain rather because I havent had the opportunity to shoot synthetic yet. I'm comfortable shooting squirrels with a .264
I would encourage you to look at the Marlin X7 series. Like a Savage, they are not expensive and shoot very well out of the box. A nice caliber for deer and other game is the .308. You should be able to find a black synthetic stock with blued barrel for $375 or less.
I own both a Savage and a Marlin and am very happy with the accuracy of both guns!
Another vote for the Vanguard in a good ol 270 or 30-06.
Thanks for the input everybody, I'm looking at all of them still as options. Their certainly not bad prices. As far as big game goes other than deer, I'm looking into boar hunting because there are tons in my area.
For sure the (new) weatherby vangaurd is probably the number one choice. But If you want to go with made in U.S.A. then you have the savage, the T/C Venture which is awesome (I have two), or the ruger American.
Trevmo, any good deer rifle will drop feral pigs. Just make sure you use bullets designed to hold together. I lost a nice boar several years ago shooting it in the shoulder with a Nosler Ballistic Tip. My guess is the bullet expanded too fast and fragmented, not causing enough damage for an immediate kill. Even the small pigs are tougher than the corresponding size deer and their blood clots very quickly which can cause for problems in tracking.
Good luck in your rifle selection, have fun, and be safe!
I'm leaning towards the Ruger American. I think I'd have more opportunities to harvest pigs off of my friend's ranch. I've heard a 30-06, which the ruger american runs, is ideal for pigs but not as ideal for deer. Any problems running a 30-06 on deer? Positive and negative aspects?
I'm leaning towards the Ruger American. I think I'd have more opportunities to harvest pigs off of my friend's ranch. I've heard a 30-06, which the ruger american runs, is ideal for pigs but not as ideal for deer. Any problems running a 30-06 on deer? Positive and negative aspects?
And how do you guys feel about the tikka t3? That doesn't look like a bad price for a non synthetic? I know they say that the Ruger American shares positive characteristics of a tikka.
Sarge, what versions are your Tikka T3's? Do you like the Lite models or do you prefer another variation?
Tikka T3 Lites all of them. I have traded a couple of them and have given a couple of them to my grandsons. They are some of the best rifles that I have had. I have trimmed my inventory down some and passed some firearms along to the next generation to use so I can see them enjoy them. After I'm gone I can't see them enjoy the firearms.
Thanks for the feedback Sarge. Good idea about sharing with the next generation.
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