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Deer Hunting

Browning BAR 7mm rem mag wont group

Uploaded on November 22, 2010

I cannot get my 7mm rem mag Browning Bar to group at all, It was my uncles and used very lightly, I acquired it and have struggled to sight it in.
I have been extremely careful not to overheat the barrel and wait 10-15 minutes between shots while trying to sight it in.
I am getting like an 9 inch group at 100yds.

I have used a foam cleaner on the barrel, for copper, but no luck. any ideas.
I am using 175 remington corelokts

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from basset hound wrote 3 years 20 weeks ago

Are you using a scope? If so, you may have a damaged scope, or loose scope mounts.

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from captainredfish1 wrote 3 years 20 weeks ago

the scope is a burris fullfield with leupold base and rings

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from FirstBubba wrote 3 years 20 weeks ago

If at all possible, put something like Leupold or Redfield on it.
You wouldn't put "Bob's Best Retreads" on your new Cadillac would you? If you're not spending at least $200+ on glass, you're going to be disappointed!!

Bubba

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from basset hound wrote 3 years 20 weeks ago

You could always borrow a scope and see if that fixes the problem. Does the rifle have open sights?

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from fng wrote 3 years 20 weeks ago

lastly, it might just not like the ammo. Buy a box of Winchester rounds, maybe some Hornady or Norma, and just try it out. THe gun may absolutely HATE the Remingtons. Or try different bullet weights. Semi autos are funky like that sometimes, I've heard.

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from WA Mtnhunter wrote 3 years 20 weeks ago

I don't know what the twist rate for that Browning is, but if it is not 1:9 or faster, it may not stabilize the long, slower 175 gr bullets. Try a 150 grain Ballistic Tip or similar boat tail. Check for loose or improperly installed mounts. Maybe even a different scope? If after a thorough cleaning and a switch to a lighter bullet the groups do not improve, initial troubleshooting should involve switching to a known scope and if that is not the problem, a trip to the gunsmith may be in order.

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from Jeff Bowers wrote 3 years 20 weeks ago

Based on the facts presented, I'd go with the ammo.

The quickest test, which you didn't state, is to lock it down in a benchrest. That would make a scope irrelavent. If the group scattered with the rifle locked down, it's the ammo or the barrel.

If you were trying to sight it in off-hand, well, that's another story.

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from Clay Cooper wrote 3 years 20 weeks ago

WA Mtnhunter is onto what I think, go to 150's!! Besides, 162 is the heaviest I would go anyhow.

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from Clay Cooper wrote 3 years 20 weeks ago

Try this with your scope, place the rifle on a solid rest with it aimed at a target at 100 yards. Without disturbing the rifle & scope, look at the target and move your head/eye up and down, side to side and all around. Did the crosshairs move off the target?

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from captainredfish1 wrote 3 years 20 weeks ago

thanks Clay, the scope crosshairs do not move, I am going to try 140 grain bullets. the scope is a good scope I took off of a remington 700 in .270 so I am confident in the scope and mounts.

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from WA Mtnhunter wrote 3 years 20 weeks ago

We would be pleased to know the results of your 140 gr loads.

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from browngsp186 wrote 3 years 18 weeks ago

i have had the same problems with my BAR 30-06have changed the scope and bases. i am gonna try to get the stock rebedded next or put a different stock on. the current one is extremely tight. may be a problem you might want to look into as well.

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from RES1956 wrote 3 years 18 weeks ago

Twist in that rifle should stabilize 162 gr bullet, rings and bases tight, the Burris is good. I'd check the bedding on the forearm. Does the rifle string the shots or just spray them all over the paper? Make sure the rings are not putting undue torque on the scope, does the power magnification ring turn easily and freely? If all that is OK, get your .270 back out and put the Browning back in the safe, it's too heavy to hunt with anyway.

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from steve182 wrote 3 years 18 weeks ago

Sounds like something might be BENT. lol. I'd try some different ammo and be sure to use a good rest or sled. Make sure it's clean too

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from platte river rat wrote 3 years 18 weeks ago

Ever try a good barrel and chamber cleaning?? Sometimes this is all you need to have your gun shoot where you want it to shoot.

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from basset hound wrote 3 years 20 weeks ago

Are you using a scope? If so, you may have a damaged scope, or loose scope mounts.

+1 Good Comment? | | Report
from FirstBubba wrote 3 years 20 weeks ago

If at all possible, put something like Leupold or Redfield on it.
You wouldn't put "Bob's Best Retreads" on your new Cadillac would you? If you're not spending at least $200+ on glass, you're going to be disappointed!!

Bubba

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from captainredfish1 wrote 3 years 20 weeks ago

the scope is a burris fullfield with leupold base and rings

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from basset hound wrote 3 years 20 weeks ago

You could always borrow a scope and see if that fixes the problem. Does the rifle have open sights?

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from fng wrote 3 years 20 weeks ago

lastly, it might just not like the ammo. Buy a box of Winchester rounds, maybe some Hornady or Norma, and just try it out. THe gun may absolutely HATE the Remingtons. Or try different bullet weights. Semi autos are funky like that sometimes, I've heard.

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from WA Mtnhunter wrote 3 years 20 weeks ago

I don't know what the twist rate for that Browning is, but if it is not 1:9 or faster, it may not stabilize the long, slower 175 gr bullets. Try a 150 grain Ballistic Tip or similar boat tail. Check for loose or improperly installed mounts. Maybe even a different scope? If after a thorough cleaning and a switch to a lighter bullet the groups do not improve, initial troubleshooting should involve switching to a known scope and if that is not the problem, a trip to the gunsmith may be in order.

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from Jeff Bowers wrote 3 years 20 weeks ago

Based on the facts presented, I'd go with the ammo.

The quickest test, which you didn't state, is to lock it down in a benchrest. That would make a scope irrelavent. If the group scattered with the rifle locked down, it's the ammo or the barrel.

If you were trying to sight it in off-hand, well, that's another story.

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from Clay Cooper wrote 3 years 20 weeks ago

WA Mtnhunter is onto what I think, go to 150's!! Besides, 162 is the heaviest I would go anyhow.

0 Good Comment? | | Report
from Clay Cooper wrote 3 years 20 weeks ago

Try this with your scope, place the rifle on a solid rest with it aimed at a target at 100 yards. Without disturbing the rifle & scope, look at the target and move your head/eye up and down, side to side and all around. Did the crosshairs move off the target?

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from captainredfish1 wrote 3 years 20 weeks ago

thanks Clay, the scope crosshairs do not move, I am going to try 140 grain bullets. the scope is a good scope I took off of a remington 700 in .270 so I am confident in the scope and mounts.

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from WA Mtnhunter wrote 3 years 20 weeks ago

We would be pleased to know the results of your 140 gr loads.

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from browngsp186 wrote 3 years 18 weeks ago

i have had the same problems with my BAR 30-06have changed the scope and bases. i am gonna try to get the stock rebedded next or put a different stock on. the current one is extremely tight. may be a problem you might want to look into as well.

0 Good Comment? | | Report
from RES1956 wrote 3 years 18 weeks ago

Twist in that rifle should stabilize 162 gr bullet, rings and bases tight, the Burris is good. I'd check the bedding on the forearm. Does the rifle string the shots or just spray them all over the paper? Make sure the rings are not putting undue torque on the scope, does the power magnification ring turn easily and freely? If all that is OK, get your .270 back out and put the Browning back in the safe, it's too heavy to hunt with anyway.

0 Good Comment? | | Report
from steve182 wrote 3 years 18 weeks ago

Sounds like something might be BENT. lol. I'd try some different ammo and be sure to use a good rest or sled. Make sure it's clean too

0 Good Comment? | | Report
from platte river rat wrote 3 years 18 weeks ago

Ever try a good barrel and chamber cleaning?? Sometimes this is all you need to have your gun shoot where you want it to shoot.

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