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Deer Hunting

Whats the better cal. 30-30 or 30-06

Uploaded on August 25, 2009

There have been many claims and many stories over the years, but lets see what you really think about the two most infamous calibers in history.

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from libertyfirst wrote 4 years 33 weeks ago

Not really a fair question to compare these two fine calibers. The 30-30 is a terrific performer on whitetail deer. Both the 150 and the 170 gr. bullets will penetrate very well from a lot of angles. The sportsmen who write this caliber off are typically men who have never found a use for this type of rifle. In the east and the huge evergreen forests this is a well received round. Typically the shots are close and rarely do you shoot over the 60-70 yard mark. I've shot a lot of deer with my fathers old Win. and have never lost one. My father shot many more than me and he only lost one and that he always said was a hasty shot way to far back. Don't ever let the paper energy boys tell you that this is not a great deer rifle. Where the 30-30 does fall down, and I believe that this one thing accounts for a lot of the bad press, is in long range shooting.If you're not experienced with the 30-30 and try to blaze away at 200+ yard deer all you'll do is breaks legs and hit low wounding shots. This is a great 125 yard deer gun!
The 30-06 is without doubt the finest all around rifle ever conceived. You can shoot at 400 yard woodchucks with 130 gr. spitzers or deliver massive foot pounds of power at close range on the largest of game in the world. This rifle can do it all. I once built a 30-06 for a customer with a 24" bbl. on my favorite action, a 98 mauser, and he would shoot a 150 gr. spitzers over the chronograph at 3200 fps. The cases didn't stretch and the primers showed no sign of pressure. He has used this rifle for many years and has never changed the load. It hits deer like the wrath of God and according to him they never even wiggle. I don't know how far off from 300 Win. Mag performance this is but I'll bet that it isn't much. The old 30-06 is as good as any hunting cartridge ever made.

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from Ralph the Rifleman wrote 4 years 33 weeks ago

Both cartridges have their part in history; the lever actioned 30-30 fits the bill perfectly for a short to medium range woods hunting used on rabbit to buffalo...while the 30-06 has the power to deliver a heavier bullet at longer ranges.
They both have merit, and not in competion with each other, as such. To me, it justifies buying one of each!

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from Hunt_Hard wrote 4 years 33 weeks ago

Libertyfirst got it all figured out! The 30-30 & the 30-06 are a couple of the best calibers ever made.

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from WA Mtnhunter wrote 4 years 33 weeks ago

3,200 fps in an old Mauser action? I hope his long term disability insurance is paid up. That is a dangerously over pressure load.

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from woodtick wrote 4 years 33 weeks ago

I have both a winchester 30/30 and a winchester 30/06 model 70, Both very good guns! But I would have to say I perfer my 30/06 over the 30/30. with the 30/06 I have the knock down power I like also I am more comfortable with the longer range shots. The 30/30 I use mainly if I'm hunting in thicker brush. either way one can't go wrong.

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from Fireman938 wrote 4 years 33 weeks ago

The 30-06 is better at long range then the 30-30 but i perfer a .308win i have used all three, guns while deer hunting and like the .308Win better.

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from groy wrote 4 years 33 weeks ago

Libertyfirst pretty much tells the story if you going to use it for hunting. I just couldn;t resist...now that everyone has since passed on......as a kid growing up hunting nothing but meanist brush on Cow Mountain or our Mariposa ranch hardly ever under 105 degrees... my grandfather's 30-30 was much better trying to crawl my way out brush.....being a slim line lever action 94, no strap or scope to hang up on the brush, light weight too...since I never got to shoot it much more than 2 feet down range ballistics weren't that important...besides I only shot at rattle snakes anyway with all the noise I was making. One time they gave me an old Rem 760 pump 30-06 with a big, and I mean bit old Weaver 6 power scope and sling....but the sent me into the same jungle and I couldn't crawl for squat it hung up on everything, scratched the hell out of hit dropped several times and lost the clip to boot if was child abuse compared to how we hunt today...... 40 years later brush isn't an option...so the 30-06 works better...that old 94 is like my dearly departed redbone.....

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from Wonko wrote 4 years 33 weeks ago

As every one has said it really depends on where you are hunting. If I'm in thick brush the 30-30 all the way, if I'm shooting across an open field then it would be the 30-06.

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from jaweatherholtz wrote 4 years 32 weeks ago

I agree with everyone here. They both have their place. I will add that those two calibers have probably taken more deer than all others combined. I am surprised, however, no one mentioned the leverevolution ammo that greatly increase the 30-30s downrange capabilities. I have never tried them but heard all good things. I hunt with either a 30.06 or 6mm.

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from jaweatherholtz wrote 4 years 32 weeks ago

I agree with everyone here. They both have their place. I will add that those two calibers have probably taken more deer than all others combined. I am surprised, however, no one mentioned the leverevolution ammo that greatly increase the 30-30s downrange capabilities. I have never tried them but heard all good things. I hunt with either a 30.06 or 6mm.

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from Aaron wrote 4 years 32 weeks ago

I own both a 30-30 Marlin and a 30-06 Browning A-bolt. Both have taken their share of whitetails in the thick woods of NE Minn. But my nod definitely goes to the much more powerful 30-06. I have seen on more than one occasion where a 30-30 bullet has come apart on the shoulder blade of a large bodied whitetail, hardly providing enough penetration to make it a killing shot and not leaving an exit hole. The last time this happened the distance of the shot was about 30yrds. Using a premium bullet at 180 grains with my 30-06 leaves no question if my hold it true. It’s a confidence thing.

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from steve182 wrote 4 years 32 weeks ago

Both are good whitetail loads, but the -06 is obviously far superior. The ol' .30-30 is great for a brush gun or for a young recoil sensitive shooter.

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from Cheap Shot wrote 4 years 27 weeks ago

Hands down: 30-06

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from Big O wrote 4 years 27 weeks ago

Apples to apples here. LOVE em' both !

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from lawman328 wrote 4 years 27 weeks ago

I've owned them both, My secound to the youngist son shot and killed his first Buck at 75yds with my marlin at age 9, and it dropped right there. As stated in earlier post the two are probably the most used rifle calibers ever for Whitetailed Deer. My Mom still hunts with her Win.94 at age 65, But unless your worried about recoil, why limit yourself with the 30-30. There is just to much you can do with the 06 that you can't do with the 30-30, but the 30-06 can do everything the 30-30 can, and more.

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from noleafclover wrote 4 years 26 weeks ago

It's like comparing a GTO and an F-150. It's gotta depend on the circumstances. I've always hunted in the thick stuff, and the old model 94 in 30-30 does the trick for me. Course if I ever feel the need to shoot mountain to mountain I prefer the 30-06. Not too many mountains in da U.P though

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from rocky d bashaw wrote 4 years 26 weeks ago

i love my marlin 30/30 as well as my remington 700cdl 30/06,depends on where i am hunting.

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from kybowhunter wrote 4 years 26 weeks ago

We call the 30-30 are favorate brush gun in ky. The model 94 has probably taken more deer than any other rifle out there. My son just took his first buck last weekend with one as well. As for the 30-06. Well id rather shoot the 7mm rem mag.

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from Aktanker wrote 4 years 24 weeks ago

The 30-06 is unarguably one of the greatest cartridges in the history or shooting. For anyone looking for a reliable load for a variety of species the 06 should be near the top of the list. I have used a 1903 Springfield that was originally purchased by my great grandfather in the early 1900's and have killed everything from deer to bears and moose!

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from herbie57_57 wrote 4 years 24 weeks ago

I've seen a lot of mixed feelings on this. I've killed a lot of deer over the years and they have all been with 2 calibers. .30-.30 and .30-06. I agree the .30/.30 is a brush gun but with the new hornady ammo it can reach out a little further now. Love them both just have to know when to use them.

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from bighunter wrote 4 years 23 weeks ago

30/06 i believe is a present from god a 30/30 could just wound your deer a 30/06 blows him to the ground

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from rlowe357 wrote 4 years 23 weeks ago

It just all depends on where your hunting. I've killed deer with both. Power lines or good open hardwoods I'll take my 06. Thickets and new growth cut overs I'll take my 30-30. If i'm not gonna be in a stand and moving around or doing a small drives with some buddies I'll usually take my 30-30 it's quicker to get aimed with open sights and shots usually aren't far

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from GreatWhiteBuffalo wrote 4 years 22 weeks ago

For my TExas hunting, in the mesquite woods, 30-30 serves me best. But Im sure that the 30-06 is better for longer ranges... It leaves too much of a mess for me... I shot a pig with one once... at 20 yards.

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from MarlinMan wrote 4 years 11 weeks ago

They both have their place in hunting and libertyfirst said it best.

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from tennesseedeerhunter wrote 4 years 10 weeks ago

i would say 30-06 it is a all around gun

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from tom donohue wrote 4 years 5 weeks ago

30-30 and 30-06 are both the same CALIBER but different CARTRIDGES.

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from spartan88 wrote 4 years 3 weeks ago

Well the obvious answer is you need to get a 30-30 lever gun and a 30-06 bolt or semi-auto gun. Pieces of history both rounds. The old west and first true sporting and deer cartridge for the 30-30 (popular round in model 94s) and a champion of battle fields and sporting for the 06. In a perfect world I would own AT LEAST one of each.

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from BrigMarine wrote 4 years 2 weeks ago

the 06 is far better round

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from Deerslayer76 wrote 4 years 1 week ago

Actually they are both very fine weapons...depending on the area you wish to hunt,the ammo you use,and the type of range you want.....
I have a Savage .30-30 Bolt Action,and Remington .30-06 pump..
MY 30-30 scoped has accurately reach out to 225 yards and kiled deer with no problem using 150-170gr High velocity ammo,I dont know if the lever style 30-30's will go that far,I never shot one......
My 30-06 has reached out accurately to 500 yards with 160-180 gr High velocity ammo.just plinking around...but the longest shot on a deer I ever made with that was only 280-300 yards....not too many areas around me for those really long range shots...
I use the 30-30 for hunting in wooded areas with the occasional open field areas because its shorter and lighter...My 30-06 is fairly heavey with a 26" barrel....and it gets heavy lugging it up and down in wooded areas......
I would love to buy a .308 browning-x bolt action it is just so light,feels like it would be really east to hunt with and even plinks fairly good at 400 yards...A man down at the range let me fire off a few with his,,but my wife wont let me buy any more guns until next year...LOL

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from WA Mtnhunter wrote 4 years 1 week ago

deerslayer76

That must be a custom Remington pump rifle. I never saw one with more than a 22 inch barrel.

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from Treestand wrote 3 years 50 weeks ago

The 30-30 is terrific but the .06 is an all around cartridge.

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from ADKHunter wrote 3 years 50 weeks ago

30 30 for short range and 06 for long range

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from Mindeloman wrote 3 years 50 weeks ago

Based on what? This is kinda obscure what the orginal author is trying to ask. Let me point out that the .30-06 was developed as a military man killing round. And for that it holds greater distinction than the 30-30. The .30-06 has killed thousands of Germans and Japs when it was used in the 1903 Springfield, M1 rifle, M1919 Browning machine gun, and the B.A.R. It's also the parent round for the .308 winchester(7.62 nato) and .50 BMG Since the .30-06 can be traced to the very freedom we enjoy to be able to use that 30-30 in the brush to take a deer, then I say .30-06 all the way!

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from spartan88 wrote 3 years 50 weeks ago

Mindeloman, but don't forget the .30-30 has killed thousands out west and countless larger game animals. I love both cartridges each one has its place.

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from dantenunez wrote 3 years 46 weeks ago

i've never used either but i would say 30-06 because it seems a bit more powerful.

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from dantenunez wrote 3 years 46 weeks ago

this may be a whitetail forum but i prfer mulies

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from Pecos Flats wrote 3 years 44 weeks ago

You can't go wrong with either round for deer.
When hunting mulies on an open terrain where shots may be far, the obvious choice would be a .30 Governmentt.
Take to the brush and I'll choose the 30/30 in a lever action for fast follow up shots if needed. In fact, I did need it once.
Other than that, both rounds are excellent choices and will bring home the venison.

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from rmartin7799 wrote 3 years 12 weeks ago

I have to say after hunting for 50 years with both a 30.30 and a 30.06 I prefer the 30.06. I think it is more humane due to it's power. Of course a good shot is always needed to keep an animal from suffering but a 30.06 will stop game better when a bad shot is fired.

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from scratchgolf72 wrote 3 years 12 weeks ago

30-06, hits harder, shoots farther, if you could chose you would only handicaap yourself by picking a 30-30. but the 30-30 has probably killed more whitetails than any other caliber on the planet, and there is somethign to be said for that.

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from Keith Costley wrote 3 years 9 weeks ago

If I could only hunt big game in North America with one gun, it would be a 30.06. It is the most versatile caliber on planet earth. It is a longer range gun than a 30.30. It shoots longer and hits game harder. Case closed.

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from slimjim wrote 3 years 8 weeks ago

I have used both the 30-30 is a great brush gun and the 30-06 is a great field gun and I have taken great deer with both, none of my deer ran more than 40yds.

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from BlueMNguy wrote 3 years 6 weeks ago

30:06. I own three of them. I used a 30:30 deer hunting in 1963 and have used a 30:06 since then. Lately when I hunt in a shotgun zone, I use a 12 gauge.

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from Jeff Bowers wrote 3 years 6 weeks ago

I pick the one used as the military standard for 50 years. So There.

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from hockeyplayer wrote 2 years 37 weeks ago

scoped 30-06 is by far much much better for hunting over fields or when longer shots are very possible to be presented. both are great guns tho.

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from thughes1133 wrote 2 years 33 weeks ago

I've shot both plenty and both are great whitetail cartridges with a long history. I would give a nod to the 30-06 because of it's greater power and flat trajectory. It's also more versatile with the wide variety of loads, from 55 grain high velocity loads for varmints to 225 grain loads for big game. One positive development for the 30-30 is the Hornady Lever Evolution ammo, which can make this caliber a true 200 yd caliber with the right sighting in. My father uses this ammo in his .35 . It's nice to see technological developments in these calibers, especially when so much attention is paid to newer faster calibers.

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from jobar wrote 1 year 10 weeks ago

If properly sighted in the 30-30 should be considered a 225 yd deer gun, and the 30-06 a 280 yd deer gun. Let me explain. maximum point-blank range is the distance between a firearm and a target of a given size such that the bullet in flight is expected to strike the target without adjusting the elevation of the firearm. For White tail deer the kill zone is 8 to 10 inches in diameter. So if we use a MPBR of +/-3", which would be a 6" diameter target(we need to leave a little room for error in our shot placement) Hornady's LeverEvolution 30-30 ammo will provide an MPBR of 232 yds. This is reduced to 225 yds based on the velocity reduction due to most lever guns having a 20" barrel instead of the 24" used by Hornady. The 150 grain 30-06 yields an MPBR of 287 yds. Actual velocities being slightly slower than published reduces the MPBR to around 280 yds. To achieve this performance both guns would have to be sited in such that the bullet rises a maximum of 3" above the aim point. In both instances the bullet still has more than the 800 - 900 ft. lbs of energy that is thought to be needed for a clean kill. At greater distances that MPBR you have to hold over the target, but to do this you have to know the distance(rangefinder) and bullet drop.

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from MidnightBanjo wrote 1 year 9 weeks ago

You guys crack me up! If it's brushy use the 30-30, if its longer range use the '06. HA HA The places I hunt are a mixed bag of terrain and cover, from wide open spaces to thick brush and cedars. If I was to listen to the advice here, I would be typically carrying BOTH in the field and how awkward would that be? I chose the 30-06 for all the reasons listed above - one gun, one choice, learn to shoot it in different circumstances.

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from nyoutdoorsman30-06 wrote 43 weeks 6 days ago

There is no question the 30-06 is the superior caliber. The 30-30 is a good caliber and will do the job but cannot match the 30-06. You could hunt almost anything on God's green earth with a 30-06, the 30-30 is not as accurate or efficent at killing as the 30-06.

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from jhjimbo wrote 43 weeks 6 days ago

jobar touched on something with the Hornady Leverevolution ammo. This new flex tip ammo does add some effective range to the old 'standard' 30-30 flat point ammo.
Keep your 30-30 shots to 200yds or so and you can humanely take a whitetail.
30-06, effective range is up to the level of expertise of the shooter and what range he has practiced at. The cartridge has the energy to cleanly take a whitetail much further than the average shooter can shoot accurately.

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from Treestand wrote 41 weeks 6 days ago

I truly Love both Rounds and OWN both with the advent of Hornady New Ammo for both it enhanced Speed and distance. But over the many years of hunting up-north and now in Fl. I found that the 7mm/08 meets MY needs best over both the 30-30 & 06 as fare as Meat Damage the 7mm/08 makes a small hole with minimal meat Damage.
NOW if I had to pick JUST one its would be the 30/06!

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from small game sportsman wrote 40 weeks 1 day ago

I like the 30-06 better.

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from Longbow63 wrote 33 weeks 5 days ago

I had an 06. Zero complaints but I later also got a .30-.30 for the looks and handling. After gaining some experience I sold the .30-.30 and got a cheap, lightweight 06 (marlin x7' all black with 22" barrel) and but a smallish Leupold 2x7 scope on it. This is now my brush/truck/camping/beater gun to keep my original and nicer 06 company.

I shot a doe just below and behind the ear at 35 yards with the .30-.30 and the bullet just splashed and made a crater and she almost got back up. Not nice.

The groups on that thing were about 3.25" at 100 ( using a 7x scope) I am not a sniper but I can shoot well enough even in the field to appreciate the difference between a 1.25" rifle and a 3+" one. Also, I could have it minute of pie plate one day, put it away and the next day be lucky to hit the back stop. There was something screwed up about the barrel bands and how much tension my sling ( which was attached to magazine tube) ended up putting on the barrel in transport.

The freaking triggers on the lever guns just about give me a panic attack. It is so hard for me to focus so hard that the shot surprises me like I was taught when I have to work up a sweat to move the sears.

I can load the .06 down with an old heavy roundnose and be assured of drama free penetration, decent holes due to the bullet softness, less kick because the lever guns are far too short for my arms, while enjoying a trigger that I adjusted down to a true two pounds.

I wanted the .30-.30 to win. It just felt, handled and looked soooo "right". And with better bullets, I know the cartridge itself it is practically perfect for meat does in the wood lot. My main beef is wondering why they have to be so finicky when a good bolt is boringly predicatable, which is a good thing when sending bullets down range. I was using a new Mossberg 464. Maybe I need to scare up an older better made model and try again. I miss it. That's kind of how I found this thread, just daydreaming about a .30-.30 and trying to remember why I chose to let my old one go. It is silly, I know the .30-06 is technically better, but those lever guns have some sort of appeal that I can't explain. Guess it is time to go find a older, better copy or at least pony up to have one tuned well.

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from gr8fldad wrote 31 weeks 16 hours ago

I have a 1978 Marlin (Glenfield) model 30A. It has never let me down. 30-06 is a GREAT round, but hunting Southeast US, I just don't need the range. My 30-30 is, realistically, a 200 yard whitetail rifle with 160gr leverevolution. But like I said, I hunt the southeast. I don't recall ever taking a shot beyond about 125.

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from libertyfirst wrote 4 years 33 weeks ago

Not really a fair question to compare these two fine calibers. The 30-30 is a terrific performer on whitetail deer. Both the 150 and the 170 gr. bullets will penetrate very well from a lot of angles. The sportsmen who write this caliber off are typically men who have never found a use for this type of rifle. In the east and the huge evergreen forests this is a well received round. Typically the shots are close and rarely do you shoot over the 60-70 yard mark. I've shot a lot of deer with my fathers old Win. and have never lost one. My father shot many more than me and he only lost one and that he always said was a hasty shot way to far back. Don't ever let the paper energy boys tell you that this is not a great deer rifle. Where the 30-30 does fall down, and I believe that this one thing accounts for a lot of the bad press, is in long range shooting.If you're not experienced with the 30-30 and try to blaze away at 200+ yard deer all you'll do is breaks legs and hit low wounding shots. This is a great 125 yard deer gun!
The 30-06 is without doubt the finest all around rifle ever conceived. You can shoot at 400 yard woodchucks with 130 gr. spitzers or deliver massive foot pounds of power at close range on the largest of game in the world. This rifle can do it all. I once built a 30-06 for a customer with a 24" bbl. on my favorite action, a 98 mauser, and he would shoot a 150 gr. spitzers over the chronograph at 3200 fps. The cases didn't stretch and the primers showed no sign of pressure. He has used this rifle for many years and has never changed the load. It hits deer like the wrath of God and according to him they never even wiggle. I don't know how far off from 300 Win. Mag performance this is but I'll bet that it isn't much. The old 30-06 is as good as any hunting cartridge ever made.

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from Ralph the Rifleman wrote 4 years 33 weeks ago

Both cartridges have their part in history; the lever actioned 30-30 fits the bill perfectly for a short to medium range woods hunting used on rabbit to buffalo...while the 30-06 has the power to deliver a heavier bullet at longer ranges.
They both have merit, and not in competion with each other, as such. To me, it justifies buying one of each!

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from woodtick wrote 4 years 33 weeks ago

I have both a winchester 30/30 and a winchester 30/06 model 70, Both very good guns! But I would have to say I perfer my 30/06 over the 30/30. with the 30/06 I have the knock down power I like also I am more comfortable with the longer range shots. The 30/30 I use mainly if I'm hunting in thicker brush. either way one can't go wrong.

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from Hunt_Hard wrote 4 years 33 weeks ago

Libertyfirst got it all figured out! The 30-30 & the 30-06 are a couple of the best calibers ever made.

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from Fireman938 wrote 4 years 33 weeks ago

The 30-06 is better at long range then the 30-30 but i perfer a .308win i have used all three, guns while deer hunting and like the .308Win better.

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from groy wrote 4 years 33 weeks ago

Libertyfirst pretty much tells the story if you going to use it for hunting. I just couldn;t resist...now that everyone has since passed on......as a kid growing up hunting nothing but meanist brush on Cow Mountain or our Mariposa ranch hardly ever under 105 degrees... my grandfather's 30-30 was much better trying to crawl my way out brush.....being a slim line lever action 94, no strap or scope to hang up on the brush, light weight too...since I never got to shoot it much more than 2 feet down range ballistics weren't that important...besides I only shot at rattle snakes anyway with all the noise I was making. One time they gave me an old Rem 760 pump 30-06 with a big, and I mean bit old Weaver 6 power scope and sling....but the sent me into the same jungle and I couldn't crawl for squat it hung up on everything, scratched the hell out of hit dropped several times and lost the clip to boot if was child abuse compared to how we hunt today...... 40 years later brush isn't an option...so the 30-06 works better...that old 94 is like my dearly departed redbone.....

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from Wonko wrote 4 years 33 weeks ago

As every one has said it really depends on where you are hunting. If I'm in thick brush the 30-30 all the way, if I'm shooting across an open field then it would be the 30-06.

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from WA Mtnhunter wrote 4 years 33 weeks ago

3,200 fps in an old Mauser action? I hope his long term disability insurance is paid up. That is a dangerously over pressure load.

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from jaweatherholtz wrote 4 years 32 weeks ago

I agree with everyone here. They both have their place. I will add that those two calibers have probably taken more deer than all others combined. I am surprised, however, no one mentioned the leverevolution ammo that greatly increase the 30-30s downrange capabilities. I have never tried them but heard all good things. I hunt with either a 30.06 or 6mm.

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from noleafclover wrote 4 years 26 weeks ago

It's like comparing a GTO and an F-150. It's gotta depend on the circumstances. I've always hunted in the thick stuff, and the old model 94 in 30-30 does the trick for me. Course if I ever feel the need to shoot mountain to mountain I prefer the 30-06. Not too many mountains in da U.P though

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from Aktanker wrote 4 years 24 weeks ago

The 30-06 is unarguably one of the greatest cartridges in the history or shooting. For anyone looking for a reliable load for a variety of species the 06 should be near the top of the list. I have used a 1903 Springfield that was originally purchased by my great grandfather in the early 1900's and have killed everything from deer to bears and moose!

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from herbie57_57 wrote 4 years 24 weeks ago

I've seen a lot of mixed feelings on this. I've killed a lot of deer over the years and they have all been with 2 calibers. .30-.30 and .30-06. I agree the .30/.30 is a brush gun but with the new hornady ammo it can reach out a little further now. Love them both just have to know when to use them.

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from Aaron wrote 4 years 32 weeks ago

I own both a 30-30 Marlin and a 30-06 Browning A-bolt. Both have taken their share of whitetails in the thick woods of NE Minn. But my nod definitely goes to the much more powerful 30-06. I have seen on more than one occasion where a 30-30 bullet has come apart on the shoulder blade of a large bodied whitetail, hardly providing enough penetration to make it a killing shot and not leaving an exit hole. The last time this happened the distance of the shot was about 30yrds. Using a premium bullet at 180 grains with my 30-06 leaves no question if my hold it true. It’s a confidence thing.

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from steve182 wrote 4 years 32 weeks ago

Both are good whitetail loads, but the -06 is obviously far superior. The ol' .30-30 is great for a brush gun or for a young recoil sensitive shooter.

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from jaweatherholtz wrote 4 years 32 weeks ago

I agree with everyone here. They both have their place. I will add that those two calibers have probably taken more deer than all others combined. I am surprised, however, no one mentioned the leverevolution ammo that greatly increase the 30-30s downrange capabilities. I have never tried them but heard all good things. I hunt with either a 30.06 or 6mm.

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from Cheap Shot wrote 4 years 27 weeks ago

Hands down: 30-06

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from Big O wrote 4 years 27 weeks ago

Apples to apples here. LOVE em' both !

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from lawman328 wrote 4 years 27 weeks ago

I've owned them both, My secound to the youngist son shot and killed his first Buck at 75yds with my marlin at age 9, and it dropped right there. As stated in earlier post the two are probably the most used rifle calibers ever for Whitetailed Deer. My Mom still hunts with her Win.94 at age 65, But unless your worried about recoil, why limit yourself with the 30-30. There is just to much you can do with the 06 that you can't do with the 30-30, but the 30-06 can do everything the 30-30 can, and more.

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from rocky d bashaw wrote 4 years 26 weeks ago

i love my marlin 30/30 as well as my remington 700cdl 30/06,depends on where i am hunting.

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from rlowe357 wrote 4 years 23 weeks ago

It just all depends on where your hunting. I've killed deer with both. Power lines or good open hardwoods I'll take my 06. Thickets and new growth cut overs I'll take my 30-30. If i'm not gonna be in a stand and moving around or doing a small drives with some buddies I'll usually take my 30-30 it's quicker to get aimed with open sights and shots usually aren't far

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from GreatWhiteBuffalo wrote 4 years 22 weeks ago

For my TExas hunting, in the mesquite woods, 30-30 serves me best. But Im sure that the 30-06 is better for longer ranges... It leaves too much of a mess for me... I shot a pig with one once... at 20 yards.

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from MarlinMan wrote 4 years 11 weeks ago

They both have their place in hunting and libertyfirst said it best.

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from spartan88 wrote 4 years 3 weeks ago

Well the obvious answer is you need to get a 30-30 lever gun and a 30-06 bolt or semi-auto gun. Pieces of history both rounds. The old west and first true sporting and deer cartridge for the 30-30 (popular round in model 94s) and a champion of battle fields and sporting for the 06. In a perfect world I would own AT LEAST one of each.

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from Treestand wrote 3 years 50 weeks ago

The 30-30 is terrific but the .06 is an all around cartridge.

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from ADKHunter wrote 3 years 50 weeks ago

30 30 for short range and 06 for long range

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from kybowhunter wrote 4 years 26 weeks ago

We call the 30-30 are favorate brush gun in ky. The model 94 has probably taken more deer than any other rifle out there. My son just took his first buck last weekend with one as well. As for the 30-06. Well id rather shoot the 7mm rem mag.

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from tom donohue wrote 4 years 5 weeks ago

30-30 and 30-06 are both the same CALIBER but different CARTRIDGES.

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from BrigMarine wrote 4 years 2 weeks ago

the 06 is far better round

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from spartan88 wrote 3 years 50 weeks ago

Mindeloman, but don't forget the .30-30 has killed thousands out west and countless larger game animals. I love both cartridges each one has its place.

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from Pecos Flats wrote 3 years 44 weeks ago

You can't go wrong with either round for deer.
When hunting mulies on an open terrain where shots may be far, the obvious choice would be a .30 Governmentt.
Take to the brush and I'll choose the 30/30 in a lever action for fast follow up shots if needed. In fact, I did need it once.
Other than that, both rounds are excellent choices and will bring home the venison.

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from scratchgolf72 wrote 3 years 12 weeks ago

30-06, hits harder, shoots farther, if you could chose you would only handicaap yourself by picking a 30-30. but the 30-30 has probably killed more whitetails than any other caliber on the planet, and there is somethign to be said for that.

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from slimjim wrote 3 years 8 weeks ago

I have used both the 30-30 is a great brush gun and the 30-06 is a great field gun and I have taken great deer with both, none of my deer ran more than 40yds.

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from hockeyplayer wrote 2 years 37 weeks ago

scoped 30-06 is by far much much better for hunting over fields or when longer shots are very possible to be presented. both are great guns tho.

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from MidnightBanjo wrote 1 year 9 weeks ago

You guys crack me up! If it's brushy use the 30-30, if its longer range use the '06. HA HA The places I hunt are a mixed bag of terrain and cover, from wide open spaces to thick brush and cedars. If I was to listen to the advice here, I would be typically carrying BOTH in the field and how awkward would that be? I chose the 30-06 for all the reasons listed above - one gun, one choice, learn to shoot it in different circumstances.

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from nyoutdoorsman30-06 wrote 43 weeks 6 days ago

There is no question the 30-06 is the superior caliber. The 30-30 is a good caliber and will do the job but cannot match the 30-06. You could hunt almost anything on God's green earth with a 30-06, the 30-30 is not as accurate or efficent at killing as the 30-06.

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from jhjimbo wrote 43 weeks 6 days ago

jobar touched on something with the Hornady Leverevolution ammo. This new flex tip ammo does add some effective range to the old 'standard' 30-30 flat point ammo.
Keep your 30-30 shots to 200yds or so and you can humanely take a whitetail.
30-06, effective range is up to the level of expertise of the shooter and what range he has practiced at. The cartridge has the energy to cleanly take a whitetail much further than the average shooter can shoot accurately.

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from gr8fldad wrote 31 weeks 16 hours ago

I have a 1978 Marlin (Glenfield) model 30A. It has never let me down. 30-06 is a GREAT round, but hunting Southeast US, I just don't need the range. My 30-30 is, realistically, a 200 yard whitetail rifle with 160gr leverevolution. But like I said, I hunt the southeast. I don't recall ever taking a shot beyond about 125.

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from bighunter wrote 4 years 23 weeks ago

30/06 i believe is a present from god a 30/30 could just wound your deer a 30/06 blows him to the ground

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from tennesseedeerhunter wrote 4 years 10 weeks ago

i would say 30-06 it is a all around gun

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from Deerslayer76 wrote 4 years 1 week ago

Actually they are both very fine weapons...depending on the area you wish to hunt,the ammo you use,and the type of range you want.....
I have a Savage .30-30 Bolt Action,and Remington .30-06 pump..
MY 30-30 scoped has accurately reach out to 225 yards and kiled deer with no problem using 150-170gr High velocity ammo,I dont know if the lever style 30-30's will go that far,I never shot one......
My 30-06 has reached out accurately to 500 yards with 160-180 gr High velocity ammo.just plinking around...but the longest shot on a deer I ever made with that was only 280-300 yards....not too many areas around me for those really long range shots...
I use the 30-30 for hunting in wooded areas with the occasional open field areas because its shorter and lighter...My 30-06 is fairly heavey with a 26" barrel....and it gets heavy lugging it up and down in wooded areas......
I would love to buy a .308 browning-x bolt action it is just so light,feels like it would be really east to hunt with and even plinks fairly good at 400 yards...A man down at the range let me fire off a few with his,,but my wife wont let me buy any more guns until next year...LOL

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from WA Mtnhunter wrote 4 years 1 week ago

deerslayer76

That must be a custom Remington pump rifle. I never saw one with more than a 22 inch barrel.

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from Mindeloman wrote 3 years 50 weeks ago

Based on what? This is kinda obscure what the orginal author is trying to ask. Let me point out that the .30-06 was developed as a military man killing round. And for that it holds greater distinction than the 30-30. The .30-06 has killed thousands of Germans and Japs when it was used in the 1903 Springfield, M1 rifle, M1919 Browning machine gun, and the B.A.R. It's also the parent round for the .308 winchester(7.62 nato) and .50 BMG Since the .30-06 can be traced to the very freedom we enjoy to be able to use that 30-30 in the brush to take a deer, then I say .30-06 all the way!

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from dantenunez wrote 3 years 46 weeks ago

i've never used either but i would say 30-06 because it seems a bit more powerful.

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from dantenunez wrote 3 years 46 weeks ago

this may be a whitetail forum but i prfer mulies

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from rmartin7799 wrote 3 years 12 weeks ago

I have to say after hunting for 50 years with both a 30.30 and a 30.06 I prefer the 30.06. I think it is more humane due to it's power. Of course a good shot is always needed to keep an animal from suffering but a 30.06 will stop game better when a bad shot is fired.

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from Keith Costley wrote 3 years 9 weeks ago

If I could only hunt big game in North America with one gun, it would be a 30.06. It is the most versatile caliber on planet earth. It is a longer range gun than a 30.30. It shoots longer and hits game harder. Case closed.

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from BlueMNguy wrote 3 years 6 weeks ago

30:06. I own three of them. I used a 30:30 deer hunting in 1963 and have used a 30:06 since then. Lately when I hunt in a shotgun zone, I use a 12 gauge.

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from Jeff Bowers wrote 3 years 6 weeks ago

I pick the one used as the military standard for 50 years. So There.

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from thughes1133 wrote 2 years 33 weeks ago

I've shot both plenty and both are great whitetail cartridges with a long history. I would give a nod to the 30-06 because of it's greater power and flat trajectory. It's also more versatile with the wide variety of loads, from 55 grain high velocity loads for varmints to 225 grain loads for big game. One positive development for the 30-30 is the Hornady Lever Evolution ammo, which can make this caliber a true 200 yd caliber with the right sighting in. My father uses this ammo in his .35 . It's nice to see technological developments in these calibers, especially when so much attention is paid to newer faster calibers.

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from jobar wrote 1 year 10 weeks ago

If properly sighted in the 30-30 should be considered a 225 yd deer gun, and the 30-06 a 280 yd deer gun. Let me explain. maximum point-blank range is the distance between a firearm and a target of a given size such that the bullet in flight is expected to strike the target without adjusting the elevation of the firearm. For White tail deer the kill zone is 8 to 10 inches in diameter. So if we use a MPBR of +/-3", which would be a 6" diameter target(we need to leave a little room for error in our shot placement) Hornady's LeverEvolution 30-30 ammo will provide an MPBR of 232 yds. This is reduced to 225 yds based on the velocity reduction due to most lever guns having a 20" barrel instead of the 24" used by Hornady. The 150 grain 30-06 yields an MPBR of 287 yds. Actual velocities being slightly slower than published reduces the MPBR to around 280 yds. To achieve this performance both guns would have to be sited in such that the bullet rises a maximum of 3" above the aim point. In both instances the bullet still has more than the 800 - 900 ft. lbs of energy that is thought to be needed for a clean kill. At greater distances that MPBR you have to hold over the target, but to do this you have to know the distance(rangefinder) and bullet drop.

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from Treestand wrote 41 weeks 6 days ago

I truly Love both Rounds and OWN both with the advent of Hornady New Ammo for both it enhanced Speed and distance. But over the many years of hunting up-north and now in Fl. I found that the 7mm/08 meets MY needs best over both the 30-30 & 06 as fare as Meat Damage the 7mm/08 makes a small hole with minimal meat Damage.
NOW if I had to pick JUST one its would be the 30/06!

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from small game sportsman wrote 40 weeks 1 day ago

I like the 30-06 better.

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from Longbow63 wrote 33 weeks 5 days ago

I had an 06. Zero complaints but I later also got a .30-.30 for the looks and handling. After gaining some experience I sold the .30-.30 and got a cheap, lightweight 06 (marlin x7' all black with 22" barrel) and but a smallish Leupold 2x7 scope on it. This is now my brush/truck/camping/beater gun to keep my original and nicer 06 company.

I shot a doe just below and behind the ear at 35 yards with the .30-.30 and the bullet just splashed and made a crater and she almost got back up. Not nice.

The groups on that thing were about 3.25" at 100 ( using a 7x scope) I am not a sniper but I can shoot well enough even in the field to appreciate the difference between a 1.25" rifle and a 3+" one. Also, I could have it minute of pie plate one day, put it away and the next day be lucky to hit the back stop. There was something screwed up about the barrel bands and how much tension my sling ( which was attached to magazine tube) ended up putting on the barrel in transport.

The freaking triggers on the lever guns just about give me a panic attack. It is so hard for me to focus so hard that the shot surprises me like I was taught when I have to work up a sweat to move the sears.

I can load the .06 down with an old heavy roundnose and be assured of drama free penetration, decent holes due to the bullet softness, less kick because the lever guns are far too short for my arms, while enjoying a trigger that I adjusted down to a true two pounds.

I wanted the .30-.30 to win. It just felt, handled and looked soooo "right". And with better bullets, I know the cartridge itself it is practically perfect for meat does in the wood lot. My main beef is wondering why they have to be so finicky when a good bolt is boringly predicatable, which is a good thing when sending bullets down range. I was using a new Mossberg 464. Maybe I need to scare up an older better made model and try again. I miss it. That's kind of how I found this thread, just daydreaming about a .30-.30 and trying to remember why I chose to let my old one go. It is silly, I know the .30-06 is technically better, but those lever guns have some sort of appeal that I can't explain. Guess it is time to go find a older, better copy or at least pony up to have one tuned well.

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