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Deer Hunting

Fox in the Hen House.....You have to be kidding....Cabela's trying to scare people on Lead Ammunition

Uploaded on October 19, 2012

From a DNR/Cabela's Press Release....who is the company being run by the Sierra Club or USHUS???? Here I come Potterfield no more Cabelas.

DNR announces live bald eagle event

A live bald eagle from The Raptor Center of Minnesota will be on display Oct. 20, from 10 a.m. to 4 p.m., at Cabela’s in Rogers, Minn., according to the Minnesota Department of Natural Resources (DNR).

Representatives from the DNR's Nongame Wildlife Program and The Raptor Center will also be available to answer questions about bald eagles and eagle conservation in Minnesota.

The DNR, The Raptor Center and Cabela’s have teamed up to promote a variety of new copper rifle and shotgun ammunition for deer hunting. This is the first eagle-safe event to promote copper ammunition for deer hunting by a major outdoor retailer in the nation.

“This ammo has proven to be ballistically superior to lead bullets,” said Carrol Henderson, supervisor, DNR Nongame Wildlife Program. “It is more accurate, penetrates better and has more knock-down ability than comparable lead bullets. This is great news for deer hunters, and copper bullets are also not toxic to bald eagles, which routinely scavenge on deer gut-piles.”

According to Henderson, the cost of copper ammo is higher than for lead bullets, but hunters have learned that they might only use five or six copper bullets per season if they sight in their guns with lead bullets then use the copper ones for the deer hunt. This way, a box of 20 copper bullets may last three to four years.

Attendees will also have opportunity to have their picture taken with a mounted bald eagle that will be on display.
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from bruisedsausage wrote 1 year 25 weeks ago

“This ammo has proven to be ballistically superior to lead bullets,” said Carrol Henderson, supervisor, DNR Nongame Wildlife Program. “It is more accurate, penetrates better and has more knock-down ability than comparable lead bullets

I guess she must have not have taken any physics classes(ever). Total BS. And sight in using lead bullets and make the switch to copper only for hunting? WTH? Again she must not have taken any physics classes. Wrong on so many different levels its not even close to funny.

Would be nice if we could use tungsten in place of lead...

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from Scout79 wrote 1 year 25 weeks ago

I use copper sabots in my 12 gauge for deer hunting and have never been disappointed. So far, though, I've only had to fire once. I'm sure that day is coming where I'll have to take a couple shots. I switched after I saw a Bald Eagle come into our rehab hospital with lead poisoning. She was in really bad shape, but thankfully had been found in time. Our guys flushed her system with fluids and after a couple weeks she was standing and eating on her own. She got released at Bagnell Dam. I had no idea how little lead it takes to affect a bird, but their systems are so efficient, they process and absorb everything quickly.
Plus, I switched because I didn't like the idea of accidentally eating little lead pieces.

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from Scout79 wrote 1 year 25 weeks ago

However, I think it's really lame that they are only letting people get their picture with the mounted eagle and not the live one.

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from clinchknot wrote 1 year 25 weeks ago

Connect the dots fellows...the left works very hard to make inroads with time, and lots of money. Every little gain is considered a victory, and part of their bigger agenda. I've contacted other companies that have publicized the same slant voicing my displeasure, and thoughts about not buying their products.

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from AGold wrote 1 year 25 weeks ago

I think this would be a good write for DP to cover. What say you?

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from Sarge01 wrote 1 year 25 weeks ago

I am in the process of switching from my lead bullets to Barnes Triple Shocks. I have a load worked up for my .257 Weatherby for the 115 grain Triple Shock bullet and today I received a box of 165 grain .30 cal Triple Shock bullets. I have 4 test loads loaded for my 300WSM that I will be testing tomorrow. I hae been reading alot of reviews, some of them on here from people I trust, and the results are great on game with the triple shocks. I suppose with great results on game using the Triple Shock bullets the idea of not haveing lead in my meat is just icing on the cake. It has nothing to do with what Cabelas says.

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from chuckles wrote 1 year 25 weeks ago

I only use non-toxic shot and Barnes bullets. I don't want to eat any lead and definitely do not want to feed it to my son who has autism. If it keeps me from poisoning other animals than all to the good.
And they happen to be very accurate and extremely deadly.
Not everything is a left wing conspiracy.
Kudos to Cabelas!

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from clinchknot wrote 1 year 25 weeks ago

This one is bent on liberal agendas. I doubt that ANYONE has died an early death because they ate lead from a harvested animal. Just more emotional feely-good with no basis of scientific fact. Look what liberal California has done regarding this notion of lead to limit hunting. They appealed to the dying Eagles, I think it was eagles hey said that ate game that ran off, and was not harvested that had lead bullets/shot in them. It is all about doing anything they can, raising the price of guns/shells, increasing the regulation, increasing the taxation, making you registar your guns every so many years, whatever works. I've posted on the survey done on the numbers of ducks and geese that flew off and died every year due to the use of steel rather than the use of lead....3 million estimated lost ducks and geese every year. And that is the flip side to the lead ban on waterfowl.

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from Sarge01 wrote 1 year 25 weeks ago

Received a box of 165 grain Barnes Triple Shocks yesterday and loaded 4 test loads for my 300WSM. Went to the range today and two of the loads gave me a 3 shot inch group at 100 yards. Loaded up 3 more test loads this evening to try and tightened it up a little even though an inch group is sufficient to deer hunt with.

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from CervusCanadensis wrote 1 year 25 weeks ago

Right on Sarge. Are you using the tipped triple shocks or no? I haven't used them yet but have given it some thought.

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from Sarge01 wrote 1 year 24 weeks ago

My buddy has been using them for several years with outstanding results. This will be my first deer season using them. I am very optimistic about the results I will get. I will be using the 115 grain in my .257 Weatherby and the 165 grain in my 300WSM Sako. I am on my way to the range now with 3 more test loads for the 300WSM. The first test loads showed some real promise.

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from clinchknot wrote 1 year 25 weeks ago

Connect the dots fellows...the left works very hard to make inroads with time, and lots of money. Every little gain is considered a victory, and part of their bigger agenda. I've contacted other companies that have publicized the same slant voicing my displeasure, and thoughts about not buying their products.

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from Sarge01 wrote 1 year 25 weeks ago

I am in the process of switching from my lead bullets to Barnes Triple Shocks. I have a load worked up for my .257 Weatherby for the 115 grain Triple Shock bullet and today I received a box of 165 grain .30 cal Triple Shock bullets. I have 4 test loads loaded for my 300WSM that I will be testing tomorrow. I hae been reading alot of reviews, some of them on here from people I trust, and the results are great on game with the triple shocks. I suppose with great results on game using the Triple Shock bullets the idea of not haveing lead in my meat is just icing on the cake. It has nothing to do with what Cabelas says.

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from chuckles wrote 1 year 25 weeks ago

I only use non-toxic shot and Barnes bullets. I don't want to eat any lead and definitely do not want to feed it to my son who has autism. If it keeps me from poisoning other animals than all to the good.
And they happen to be very accurate and extremely deadly.
Not everything is a left wing conspiracy.
Kudos to Cabelas!

+1 Good Comment? | | Report
from Sarge01 wrote 1 year 25 weeks ago

Received a box of 165 grain Barnes Triple Shocks yesterday and loaded 4 test loads for my 300WSM. Went to the range today and two of the loads gave me a 3 shot inch group at 100 yards. Loaded up 3 more test loads this evening to try and tightened it up a little even though an inch group is sufficient to deer hunt with.

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from bruisedsausage wrote 1 year 25 weeks ago

“This ammo has proven to be ballistically superior to lead bullets,” said Carrol Henderson, supervisor, DNR Nongame Wildlife Program. “It is more accurate, penetrates better and has more knock-down ability than comparable lead bullets

I guess she must have not have taken any physics classes(ever). Total BS. And sight in using lead bullets and make the switch to copper only for hunting? WTH? Again she must not have taken any physics classes. Wrong on so many different levels its not even close to funny.

Would be nice if we could use tungsten in place of lead...

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from Scout79 wrote 1 year 25 weeks ago

I use copper sabots in my 12 gauge for deer hunting and have never been disappointed. So far, though, I've only had to fire once. I'm sure that day is coming where I'll have to take a couple shots. I switched after I saw a Bald Eagle come into our rehab hospital with lead poisoning. She was in really bad shape, but thankfully had been found in time. Our guys flushed her system with fluids and after a couple weeks she was standing and eating on her own. She got released at Bagnell Dam. I had no idea how little lead it takes to affect a bird, but their systems are so efficient, they process and absorb everything quickly.
Plus, I switched because I didn't like the idea of accidentally eating little lead pieces.

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from Scout79 wrote 1 year 25 weeks ago

However, I think it's really lame that they are only letting people get their picture with the mounted eagle and not the live one.

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from AGold wrote 1 year 25 weeks ago

I think this would be a good write for DP to cover. What say you?

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from clinchknot wrote 1 year 25 weeks ago

This one is bent on liberal agendas. I doubt that ANYONE has died an early death because they ate lead from a harvested animal. Just more emotional feely-good with no basis of scientific fact. Look what liberal California has done regarding this notion of lead to limit hunting. They appealed to the dying Eagles, I think it was eagles hey said that ate game that ran off, and was not harvested that had lead bullets/shot in them. It is all about doing anything they can, raising the price of guns/shells, increasing the regulation, increasing the taxation, making you registar your guns every so many years, whatever works. I've posted on the survey done on the numbers of ducks and geese that flew off and died every year due to the use of steel rather than the use of lead....3 million estimated lost ducks and geese every year. And that is the flip side to the lead ban on waterfowl.

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from CervusCanadensis wrote 1 year 25 weeks ago

Right on Sarge. Are you using the tipped triple shocks or no? I haven't used them yet but have given it some thought.

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from Sarge01 wrote 1 year 24 weeks ago

My buddy has been using them for several years with outstanding results. This will be my first deer season using them. I am very optimistic about the results I will get. I will be using the 115 grain in my .257 Weatherby and the 165 grain in my 300WSM Sako. I am on my way to the range now with 3 more test loads for the 300WSM. The first test loads showed some real promise.

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