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GSP and rabbits
Uploaded on January 18, 2013Hey guys,
I recently got a GSP and right now my focus is to make her an upland bird dog. I recently noticed that alot of the places I grouse/pheasant hunt there are large numbers of rabbits. I've seen my friends make sure they pull their dogs off rabbit trails, but some of those same days we go home empty on both birds and bunnies.
So my question is, has anyone had any luck training their dog to do both?
By the way I plan on hunting her with an E-Collar to help with her point.
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Our GSP never took interest in rabbits so Im unsure
Our GSP never took interest in rabbits so Im unsure, Dont really no anyother ones that have.
I planned on using some rabbit scents and maybe furs just to teach her what rabbits smell like and stuff, I'm not sure if that will work though.
My advice is don't do that. Stick with birds. You'll only confuse her if she learns to run rabbits. It may result in her pushing birds too hard and turning into a flusher instead of a pointer. A couple of years ago some fool I was hunting with shot a jackrabbit while we were pheasant hunting. Didn't kill the thing and my labs were all over it. What a mess. For the rest of the season I fought them taking off after rabbits whenever they jumped one up. They'd keep running after them right out of sight! Kinda made the same mistake this year when the fella I was with shot and hit a nice buck we jumped while hunting with my young Brittany. She figured she should be chasing after whatever we were shooting at. Thankfully, it proved easy to nip that bad habit in the bud but it took some serious discipline on the spot (even though the handler was the one who really needed it - nevertheless it can't be tolerated).
I would say that a GSP should NEVER be taught to run after anything. You'll find they will prefer that. Trying to use an e-collar to indiscriminately punish or allow the same behavior will just wreck the dog. As with training of any hunting dog, you need to be CONSISTENT.
I had a Brittany that would point upland game,retrieve waterfowl, point rabbits, box turtles, and rattle snakes. I only worked with her to point upland birds, the rest he did on her own. She was the best dog I had in 40 years of ownership and 50 years of hunting over them.
In Germany, some dogs are trained for fur and feather. The Deutche Drathaar is one (DD or GWP is the U.S.) and some others. Here in North America we have a different opinion on how our dogs should work based on our terrain and game. I probably wouldn't encourage it in a young dog, my Brittany was 5 years old and already an exceptional upland dog before I allowed her to have any interest in rabbits. Too bad she only lived three more years.
I am also a GSP owner and have a dog that points birds and bunnies. She loves rabbits and it is almost impossible to break her of the habit. Most trainers will keep the GSP on upland birds only and do not want the dog to point or flush rabbits. Interestingly, my GSP will also point field mice or any other living creature in the field (she has a great nose)! The difference is that she "locks" on birds and wags her tail with any other animal. I know my dog and she is allowed to have fun in the field. I am a casual hunter - not a guide or hardcore competitor with my dog. It really depends on your personal goals for the dog. Get a good trainer and follow the instructions of a professional.
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Our GSP never took interest in rabbits so Im unsure
Our GSP never took interest in rabbits so Im unsure, Dont really no anyother ones that have.
I planned on using some rabbit scents and maybe furs just to teach her what rabbits smell like and stuff, I'm not sure if that will work though.
My advice is don't do that. Stick with birds. You'll only confuse her if she learns to run rabbits. It may result in her pushing birds too hard and turning into a flusher instead of a pointer. A couple of years ago some fool I was hunting with shot a jackrabbit while we were pheasant hunting. Didn't kill the thing and my labs were all over it. What a mess. For the rest of the season I fought them taking off after rabbits whenever they jumped one up. They'd keep running after them right out of sight! Kinda made the same mistake this year when the fella I was with shot and hit a nice buck we jumped while hunting with my young Brittany. She figured she should be chasing after whatever we were shooting at. Thankfully, it proved easy to nip that bad habit in the bud but it took some serious discipline on the spot (even though the handler was the one who really needed it - nevertheless it can't be tolerated).
I would say that a GSP should NEVER be taught to run after anything. You'll find they will prefer that. Trying to use an e-collar to indiscriminately punish or allow the same behavior will just wreck the dog. As with training of any hunting dog, you need to be CONSISTENT.
I had a Brittany that would point upland game,retrieve waterfowl, point rabbits, box turtles, and rattle snakes. I only worked with her to point upland birds, the rest he did on her own. She was the best dog I had in 40 years of ownership and 50 years of hunting over them.
In Germany, some dogs are trained for fur and feather. The Deutche Drathaar is one (DD or GWP is the U.S.) and some others. Here in North America we have a different opinion on how our dogs should work based on our terrain and game. I probably wouldn't encourage it in a young dog, my Brittany was 5 years old and already an exceptional upland dog before I allowed her to have any interest in rabbits. Too bad she only lived three more years.
I am also a GSP owner and have a dog that points birds and bunnies. She loves rabbits and it is almost impossible to break her of the habit. Most trainers will keep the GSP on upland birds only and do not want the dog to point or flush rabbits. Interestingly, my GSP will also point field mice or any other living creature in the field (she has a great nose)! The difference is that she "locks" on birds and wags her tail with any other animal. I know my dog and she is allowed to have fun in the field. I am a casual hunter - not a guide or hardcore competitor with my dog. It really depends on your personal goals for the dog. Get a good trainer and follow the instructions of a professional.
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