Deer Hunting
It seems all anyone does anymore is get up in a tree stand and wait. Is there anyone that likes to still hunt or spot and stalk? What do you consider the differences are and most importantly, what are the best tatics?
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I always still hunt, I feel you see more deer and I've gotten more deer this way too. Still hunting also allows for a change in scenery instead of sitting in a tree looking at the same thing for hours. The tactic I use is called TATTW, (name we use at my hunting camp) It means Ten minutes at a tree then walk. So you spend 10 minutes at one tree then walk about 15 yards to another, then wait ten minutes there. I also usually map out a route before I head out. It's hard to still hunt with a lot of people on the property though.
Thats a great idea. TATTW. Also it is hard to still hunt with other hunters around, however I have found that if you can pick the right place you can capalitze on their deer drives. How much land do you cover in a days hunt?
I walk my whole property which is 150 acres, but I stay up all day.
I mix both up, if I know hunters area in the area or I feel like catching up on my reading, then I prefer my stand. Awesome way to relax and clear my mind, I still hunt on certain occasions, i.e. if the deer movement has moved where I can hunt on a ridge/saddle area and I know the movement change is temporary.
Or if it's raining/snowing just light enough I know they won't bed down for the day...the inclimate weather masks my steps in the leaves/snow and it just about eliminates scent detection. What a rush if I see fresh tracks in the snow!!!!
I agree that still vs. stand hunting is completely situational.
I think still hunting is good for some situations.
I've never stand-hunted in my life, and i really don't want to. Getting out and walking everything is way more fun. I couldn't bear sitting in a stand.
Nate
I've only ever killed deer from a treestand but I'm trying to learn still hunting. I always feel like I'm missing deer. also this last season while sitting in a tree with a harness on i had five deer walk right behind me. being tied to the tree and they are so close and pressured where I hunt I couldn't turn to shoot so i lost alot of opportunities by being stuck in a stand this year.
I used to think that still hunting took patience but I am realizing that it is all about enjoyment. I can cover much land and see things that I would not have had I been in a stand.
I like to spot and stock you can cover more area.
I prefer still hunting. I get antsy easily.
I love spot and stalk hunting, it is great for the open valleys and prairy out west. There is nothing better than spotting a mule deer a half a mile away and then getting withing 150 yards. This past year a buddy and I stalked a 10 point whitetail buck in the sandhills of Nebreska. We spent hours getting within range, and alot of time on our stomach, we finally closed the distance by watching the wind and using the small hills to conceal ourselves, there was not better feeling then laying a tag on a deer we stalked for hours.
I rarely if ever stand hunt with a rifle. Used to be because i'd get impatient. Now i can sit all day in a tree archery hunting, but with a rifle i like to be on the ground. I can see further, still hunt, spot and stalk or stay put. I did shoot a buck with my bow from the ground this year, a first for me and it was pretty damn exciting, so i may be climbing trees even less in the future.
I am only 12 years old but I have killed all 4 of my deer by still hunting.Before season starts i just go to where the deer are and make a blind and I have killed all of my deer from a blind.
Sounds like you'll grow to be a great hunter and provider for your home. Keep at it em17! I like your style.
To bad in New York you have to wait until you're 16 to hunt. My grandson wants to hunt badly.
To Stalk or not to Stalk is not the question, The Questions are... Do you know your hunting area, Do you know what dear are doing on your property, What is the weather conditions. Its completely conditional!
I usually sit in the morning and evening and walk around during the day, that way i get a little of everything
During early and late seasons, I park it in a stand and hunt over food or attractants. During the rut, I'm on the move trying to find hot doe.
Tree stand ...
I usually start out in a tree stand, and get in it at least an hour before daylight. As I'm sitting there, I'm planning, what I call, a sneaky stalk, if Mr. Big doesn't come by.
Sneaky Stalk ...
I always keep my nose in the wind,at least on an angle. When I sneaky stalk, I take my time. One axiom I stalk by is, "you can never stalk to slow, but you can always stalk to fast." I normally try to stalk in rhythm to the woods I hunt. Taking in to account, the wind, the amount of daylight available, the noises, the smells, moon phase, major and minor feeding periods.
There is always some variable I'm aware of,that may effect my opportunites that day.
Parts Unknown ...
Know where you are going.
Are you headed to a feeding area or a bedding area? When you stalk, take quiet,short and easy steps. Don't try to step over fallen branches, go around them to avoid unneccessary noise.
Can you hear your own foot steps? If so, then you are probably movin' to fast.
Don't make sudden or jerkey movements,as this will alert most animals. Move your eyes, not your head, Always keep an arrow nocked or your gun ready, this is vital, doing the sneaky stalk.
When you pause,which you must incorporate into each stalk, use a tree or higher elavation, or just stoop to the ground.
Should you encounter a deer while stalking,and he has seen you first,drop to the ground and come up at full draw. Most of the time this will work,if the deer does the egyptian walk,do a quick grunt and place the pin on the vitals. Another time to pause or take a break, is when you're standing in shade. Don't pause in sunlight, as your silhouette and form is much easier to see by animals.
Use your binoculars,they extend your sight to see body parts of deer.
Always stalk with a destination in mind. I always do all day hunts. My destination in most of my stalks are toward a feeding area or a water hole,where I have already placed a tree stand for an evening hunt.
These are just a few of my tactics, what are yours?
I love still hunters, they drive deer right to me in my very comfortable stand. Thanks guys.
If I have a good area that I know deer are moving around in then I like to hunt from a stand...but if the action is slow after a couple days I will still hunt and stalk.These days stalking could get you shot with all the idiots out in the woods that don't know what their doin'.
Where I live and hunt most of the time still hunting is the best way to hunt. Still hunting for the most part allows you the best opportunity to evaluate an animal on smaller tracks of land, but occasionally it still can be done successfully. By the way I hunt in Michigan on Private land that vary from 80 -500 acres.
I like both. But I prefer spot n' stalk because it is more of a challenge.
Spot and stalk is the most rewarding hunting i can do. The joy of spotting the animal, making a plan, and sneaking in for the shot while they are unaware you are even there is by far the most exhilarating hunting experience there is - IMHO. But, you have to have the right hunting environment to do that in. If there are too many other hunters running around spooking your selected target, you will get quickly discouraged.
still vs. stand hunting is completely situational, it all depends.
I do both, I try to still hunt by working creeks and draws into the wind. The rain runoff in these usually leave the ground bare of leaves and sticks, giving me a silent approach and frees up my eyes for scanning for deer rather than having to watch where I step. One or two steps then scan / rest, then repeat trying never to take more than one to two steps. When water is running, even better the sounds of water running cover my steps allowing me to slip in undetected. good luck and good hunting!!!
If your goal is to kill a mature buck on a pressured deer club I would suggest still hunting, but when the chase part of the rut kicks in you can slip around covering some ground and score. I can see myself getting into a stand before sunset and sitting until I can no longer stand it, then slipping around, hard thing is slipping up on deer in thick brushy areas, most of the time I am lucky to see a tail fly. Its really about terrain, and attention span. The ambush has killed more deer, but around fields and open areas spot and stalk can be effective and obviously more entertaining. Try it all. In Arkansas when the deer aren't moving we release the beagles and let the games begin, but it hasn't produced any mature bucks, anyone got any great dog hunting stories?
I feel my choice has much to do with the terrain of the land and the elements. I love to spot and stalk while it's foggy, rainy, or snowing. This way I have more of a buffer for error. The waiting game in a tree is my go to if it's early season and the feeding areas are hot. I practice both during the rut. For me, waiting patiently for deer in a stand and having them so close without them knowing that you are there is just as much of a good time as stalking within bow range of a bedded buck
I still-hunt; not always successfully, though. It takes a lot of time in the woods to learn to move quietly, but I think it's a more rewarding way to hunt. It's definitely harder to do successfully. Check out G. Fred Ashbell's book "Stalking & Still-Hunting" for good tips on it. The most important thing about still-hunting is to be still. Go slow when you move, keep a sharp eye and don't let the wind hit your back.
Make sure you don't over hunt the area too
The amount of land we have limits us to stand hunting. We have been doing it for years and everyone gets their deer almost every year plus the does we need to kill to balance the herd. If we had more land we would probable do different . Everyone seems content to hunt this way and I don't get bored and I get to my stand before daylight and don't leave till after dark. I enjoy just watching everything in the woods with my glasses. The small birds are beautiful when you study them.
I am lucky in that near where I live there are quite a few large (Over 10 square mile) public hunting areas and I like hunting in the big woods and swamps. I believe a person will likely be more successful from a well placed stand but I prefer to stalk or still-hunt and have killed more deer on foot than sitting by about 7 to 1. I usually try and figure out a place to sit at first light for two to three hours, but after that I'm still hunting unless the woods are really noisy. One of my most memorable stalks occurred while trying to fill out a doe tag. I jumped a group of five does and decided to track and follow. There was a bit of snow and at times I was either crawling or scooching on my butt with rifle in my lap. A couple of times I thought I lost them but I kept going slowly and finally got a sixty yard shot and put one down. My heart was racing for about 45 minutes between first jumping them and the shot. It was a very rewarding hunt. I guess I'm a bit restless.
To me, the difference between the two is small and simple. Spot and stalk is like still hunting but you know where the animal is. Still hunting is like spot and stalk minus the spot. You are hoping to spot one, when you already have in spot and stalk. Both are helped greatly by good binoculars. Best investment you'll ever make. If you aren't cringing when you buy them, they are too cheap. After you use them, the cringe will disappear into a giant grin.
Thumbs up to shane for remembering to answer the question.
I've never seen anyone hunt from a stand out here. Deer too thin on the ground, fewer deer per square mile means you could wait a lifetime for one to walk by. Many shots are over 100 yards. Many like to glass with binoculars, then stalk. Good binoculars are maybe most important piece of gear as Shane said.
Spot and stalk all the way...come up to water, can drop a line.
Still hunting. With some good scouting before & during the season, I think you will see more deer than spot & stalk.
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I always still hunt, I feel you see more deer and I've gotten more deer this way too. Still hunting also allows for a change in scenery instead of sitting in a tree looking at the same thing for hours. The tactic I use is called TATTW, (name we use at my hunting camp) It means Ten minutes at a tree then walk. So you spend 10 minutes at one tree then walk about 15 yards to another, then wait ten minutes there. I also usually map out a route before I head out. It's hard to still hunt with a lot of people on the property though.
I mix both up, if I know hunters area in the area or I feel like catching up on my reading, then I prefer my stand. Awesome way to relax and clear my mind, I still hunt on certain occasions, i.e. if the deer movement has moved where I can hunt on a ridge/saddle area and I know the movement change is temporary.
Or if it's raining/snowing just light enough I know they won't bed down for the day...the inclimate weather masks my steps in the leaves/snow and it just about eliminates scent detection. What a rush if I see fresh tracks in the snow!!!!
still vs. stand hunting is completely situational, it all depends.
I am only 12 years old but I have killed all 4 of my deer by still hunting.Before season starts i just go to where the deer are and make a blind and I have killed all of my deer from a blind.
Sounds like you'll grow to be a great hunter and provider for your home. Keep at it em17! I like your style.
To bad in New York you have to wait until you're 16 to hunt. My grandson wants to hunt badly.
I love still hunters, they drive deer right to me in my very comfortable stand. Thanks guys.
I do both, I try to still hunt by working creeks and draws into the wind. The rain runoff in these usually leave the ground bare of leaves and sticks, giving me a silent approach and frees up my eyes for scanning for deer rather than having to watch where I step. One or two steps then scan / rest, then repeat trying never to take more than one to two steps. When water is running, even better the sounds of water running cover my steps allowing me to slip in undetected. good luck and good hunting!!!
Thats a great idea. TATTW. Also it is hard to still hunt with other hunters around, however I have found that if you can pick the right place you can capalitze on their deer drives. How much land do you cover in a days hunt?
I walk my whole property which is 150 acres, but I stay up all day.
I agree that still vs. stand hunting is completely situational.
I think still hunting is good for some situations.
I've never stand-hunted in my life, and i really don't want to. Getting out and walking everything is way more fun. I couldn't bear sitting in a stand.
Nate
I've only ever killed deer from a treestand but I'm trying to learn still hunting. I always feel like I'm missing deer. also this last season while sitting in a tree with a harness on i had five deer walk right behind me. being tied to the tree and they are so close and pressured where I hunt I couldn't turn to shoot so i lost alot of opportunities by being stuck in a stand this year.
I prefer still hunting. I get antsy easily.
I love spot and stalk hunting, it is great for the open valleys and prairy out west. There is nothing better than spotting a mule deer a half a mile away and then getting withing 150 yards. This past year a buddy and I stalked a 10 point whitetail buck in the sandhills of Nebreska. We spent hours getting within range, and alot of time on our stomach, we finally closed the distance by watching the wind and using the small hills to conceal ourselves, there was not better feeling then laying a tag on a deer we stalked for hours.
I rarely if ever stand hunt with a rifle. Used to be because i'd get impatient. Now i can sit all day in a tree archery hunting, but with a rifle i like to be on the ground. I can see further, still hunt, spot and stalk or stay put. I did shoot a buck with my bow from the ground this year, a first for me and it was pretty damn exciting, so i may be climbing trees even less in the future.
Tree stand ...
I usually start out in a tree stand, and get in it at least an hour before daylight. As I'm sitting there, I'm planning, what I call, a sneaky stalk, if Mr. Big doesn't come by.
Sneaky Stalk ...
I always keep my nose in the wind,at least on an angle. When I sneaky stalk, I take my time. One axiom I stalk by is, "you can never stalk to slow, but you can always stalk to fast." I normally try to stalk in rhythm to the woods I hunt. Taking in to account, the wind, the amount of daylight available, the noises, the smells, moon phase, major and minor feeding periods.
There is always some variable I'm aware of,that may effect my opportunites that day.
Parts Unknown ...
Know where you are going.
Are you headed to a feeding area or a bedding area? When you stalk, take quiet,short and easy steps. Don't try to step over fallen branches, go around them to avoid unneccessary noise.
Can you hear your own foot steps? If so, then you are probably movin' to fast.
Don't make sudden or jerkey movements,as this will alert most animals. Move your eyes, not your head, Always keep an arrow nocked or your gun ready, this is vital, doing the sneaky stalk.
When you pause,which you must incorporate into each stalk, use a tree or higher elavation, or just stoop to the ground.
Should you encounter a deer while stalking,and he has seen you first,drop to the ground and come up at full draw. Most of the time this will work,if the deer does the egyptian walk,do a quick grunt and place the pin on the vitals. Another time to pause or take a break, is when you're standing in shade. Don't pause in sunlight, as your silhouette and form is much easier to see by animals.
Use your binoculars,they extend your sight to see body parts of deer.
Always stalk with a destination in mind. I always do all day hunts. My destination in most of my stalks are toward a feeding area or a water hole,where I have already placed a tree stand for an evening hunt.
These are just a few of my tactics, what are yours?
I still-hunt; not always successfully, though. It takes a lot of time in the woods to learn to move quietly, but I think it's a more rewarding way to hunt. It's definitely harder to do successfully. Check out G. Fred Ashbell's book "Stalking & Still-Hunting" for good tips on it. The most important thing about still-hunting is to be still. Go slow when you move, keep a sharp eye and don't let the wind hit your back.
Make sure you don't over hunt the area too
The amount of land we have limits us to stand hunting. We have been doing it for years and everyone gets their deer almost every year plus the does we need to kill to balance the herd. If we had more land we would probable do different . Everyone seems content to hunt this way and I don't get bored and I get to my stand before daylight and don't leave till after dark. I enjoy just watching everything in the woods with my glasses. The small birds are beautiful when you study them.
To me, the difference between the two is small and simple. Spot and stalk is like still hunting but you know where the animal is. Still hunting is like spot and stalk minus the spot. You are hoping to spot one, when you already have in spot and stalk. Both are helped greatly by good binoculars. Best investment you'll ever make. If you aren't cringing when you buy them, they are too cheap. After you use them, the cringe will disappear into a giant grin.
Thumbs up to shane for remembering to answer the question.
I've never seen anyone hunt from a stand out here. Deer too thin on the ground, fewer deer per square mile means you could wait a lifetime for one to walk by. Many shots are over 100 yards. Many like to glass with binoculars, then stalk. Good binoculars are maybe most important piece of gear as Shane said.
I used to think that still hunting took patience but I am realizing that it is all about enjoyment. I can cover much land and see things that I would not have had I been in a stand.
I like to spot and stock you can cover more area.
To Stalk or not to Stalk is not the question, The Questions are... Do you know your hunting area, Do you know what dear are doing on your property, What is the weather conditions. Its completely conditional!
I usually sit in the morning and evening and walk around during the day, that way i get a little of everything
During early and late seasons, I park it in a stand and hunt over food or attractants. During the rut, I'm on the move trying to find hot doe.
If I have a good area that I know deer are moving around in then I like to hunt from a stand...but if the action is slow after a couple days I will still hunt and stalk.These days stalking could get you shot with all the idiots out in the woods that don't know what their doin'.
Where I live and hunt most of the time still hunting is the best way to hunt. Still hunting for the most part allows you the best opportunity to evaluate an animal on smaller tracks of land, but occasionally it still can be done successfully. By the way I hunt in Michigan on Private land that vary from 80 -500 acres.
I like both. But I prefer spot n' stalk because it is more of a challenge.
Spot and stalk is the most rewarding hunting i can do. The joy of spotting the animal, making a plan, and sneaking in for the shot while they are unaware you are even there is by far the most exhilarating hunting experience there is - IMHO. But, you have to have the right hunting environment to do that in. If there are too many other hunters running around spooking your selected target, you will get quickly discouraged.
If your goal is to kill a mature buck on a pressured deer club I would suggest still hunting, but when the chase part of the rut kicks in you can slip around covering some ground and score. I can see myself getting into a stand before sunset and sitting until I can no longer stand it, then slipping around, hard thing is slipping up on deer in thick brushy areas, most of the time I am lucky to see a tail fly. Its really about terrain, and attention span. The ambush has killed more deer, but around fields and open areas spot and stalk can be effective and obviously more entertaining. Try it all. In Arkansas when the deer aren't moving we release the beagles and let the games begin, but it hasn't produced any mature bucks, anyone got any great dog hunting stories?
I feel my choice has much to do with the terrain of the land and the elements. I love to spot and stalk while it's foggy, rainy, or snowing. This way I have more of a buffer for error. The waiting game in a tree is my go to if it's early season and the feeding areas are hot. I practice both during the rut. For me, waiting patiently for deer in a stand and having them so close without them knowing that you are there is just as much of a good time as stalking within bow range of a bedded buck
I am lucky in that near where I live there are quite a few large (Over 10 square mile) public hunting areas and I like hunting in the big woods and swamps. I believe a person will likely be more successful from a well placed stand but I prefer to stalk or still-hunt and have killed more deer on foot than sitting by about 7 to 1. I usually try and figure out a place to sit at first light for two to three hours, but after that I'm still hunting unless the woods are really noisy. One of my most memorable stalks occurred while trying to fill out a doe tag. I jumped a group of five does and decided to track and follow. There was a bit of snow and at times I was either crawling or scooching on my butt with rifle in my lap. A couple of times I thought I lost them but I kept going slowly and finally got a sixty yard shot and put one down. My heart was racing for about 45 minutes between first jumping them and the shot. It was a very rewarding hunt. I guess I'm a bit restless.
Spot and stalk all the way...come up to water, can drop a line.
Still hunting. With some good scouting before & during the season, I think you will see more deer than spot & stalk.
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