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Hunters Who Happen to Be Women

December 04, 2008

Hunters Who Happen to Be Women

By Kim Hiss

     Around this time of year we tend to see a proliferation of news stories in papers across the country about "Women Hunters." These recent articles from northern Michigan's Traverse City Record-Eagle and eastern Pennsylvania's Mercury are decent examples. While all such stories seem to mean well, I'm usually of two minds about them. I realize I've blogged about this before but, again, it's that time of year.
     On one hand, they're just great. They shine a local spotlight on some proud and enthusiastic women, who seem thrilled to tell a reporter all about their sport. Stories like these tend to be positive and energetic, and I can imagine a non-sportswoman reading one and thinking this hunting thing might be something she'd like to try (especially if she's surrounded by less open-minded guy hunters than I've been fortunate enough to know.) All good stuff.
     On the other hand, however, I wish "Women Hunters" wasn't still just a go-to news trend. I'm looking forward to the day when a female is an assumed presence in a deer camp or duck blind, rather than a headlines-worthy exception to the norm. It would be great to eventually have a story titled "Women Take to the Woods" sound as obvious to public ears as "Men Take to the Woods." Of course, realistically, in terms of numbers, women are very much in the minority, but I still like to project.
    This is all part of why I love our blog so much. Of course, we're women (at least most of us!), but the majority of our conversations aren't about being women hunters; they're about being hunters -- who also happen to be women. It's  a fine distinction, but one I like to keep in mind. At the end of the day, our identity as a man or woman makes no difference to the deer on the ground, or the quality of the venison in the pan, or the conservation project funded by our license dollars.
   As for these perennial news stories -- keep them coming. While I'm not thrilled to think of myself as a novelty, I'd be far less thrilled if such stories were to stop. Hopefully they'll get even more females out there, so the idea of a woman in the woods becomes a lot more common a lot sooner. -K.H.

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from Kimberly Hiss wrote 3 years 8 weeks ago

Well, there's certainly no "right answer" on this one. But we all do our part for the future of women hunters just by being out there -- doing what we do and doing it well. NorCal, that's a good point about wishing these articles would focus on experienced hunters -- I do see some such stories, but not nearly enough. Paula: what an interesting rifle-buying experience -- I can't imagine what that salesperson thought you were doing there if not outfitting yourself for a hunt! And I agree, Laura, this topic will likely keep coming around. It's a discussion that seems well worth having once in awhile. -K.H.

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from Laura Benjamin wrote 3 years 8 weeks ago

The surprise expressed by both men and women when they see or hear of a woman hunting is similar to what I heard when I enlisted in the military "many moons" ago. Comments ranged from, "you're not the type" to "you must be looking for a husband" and then there was the "Hmmmm, you know what they say about women in the military".Perhaps when we act in a way that upsets people's judgments of us, it proves just how superficial we can be with one another.Most of us aren't aware what people (especially the quiet, introverted, low-key types) are capable of. We make assumptions pretty quickly based on the way people look, how they talk and how 'Madison Avenue' says we should look/talk/act etc.Perhaps that's one of the reasons why folks are so underutilized at work or why we don't allow our kids to fail now and then. We make assumptions of what people are capable of and it cheats them of the opportunity to prove themselves.Personally, I love being in the outdoors, watching the herds in their natural state, experiencing the camraderie and testing myself so I don't turn into a soft, fearful, timid person.We only get so many experiences in life and we all get to choose how we'll test ourselves. I'd rather have something in the freezer to show for it!Kim, this is a great topic and sadly, one that will have a life of it's own for many years to come!

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from Paula wrote 3 years 8 weeks ago

I think women hunters are more acceptable today and that these articles are ok, but I tend to agree with Jan as they are patronizing. My hunting buddies respect me as an equal and I know I am lucky to have them. They are always calling the one guy to come help them when they shoot a deer and they are men. He appreciates that I take care of things myself, and so does my 15 year old son. There are a couple of old timers where I hunt who don't even acknowledge me except the one asked if I needed him to fill my tag. I was so mad, but the other guys told me to let it go and I am proving myself out in the field. When my sons took me to a major hunting store to buy me a rifle for my Christmas present we tried several rifles for fit and to see if I could see out of scope. The salesperson said to me well you have all that stuff on you will see out of scope better without your coat on. I said "sir, are you suggesting I strip before I shoot a deer" He turned beet red and said "Oh no I'm sorry, I didn't realize you were hunting with it."I'm not sure why I would own a rifle if I wasn't hunting with it, I am sure there are reasons people but I do think if I was a man, it would have been automatically assumed that I was making the purchase for hunting.I think blogs like this send a better message and I know all my hunting buddies are starting to check this site regularly.

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from Jacee wrote 3 years 9 weeks ago

I agree that these articles can be a double-edged sword. But overall, I think that the more women see women hunting, the more they will be interested. I do think that the women's articles take on a different slant, and maybe us gals are more open to talking about our clumsiness versus our kills.A few years ago I went to Becoming an Outdoorswoman (terrific program if you have the chance to go) and a local female sports writer did a great article on it. What I liked was how the article talked about camraderie, about learning new skills, about getting out and meeting people with the same interests. I would like to see more of those articles that encourage women from all walks of life to try something new in the outdoors. The tough part - they probably aren't very newsworthy unless they feature something different and unusual. I guess I will be ready for my photo op in my sytlish camo shirt and orange boonie cap!

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from Visitor wrote 3 years 9 weeks ago

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from Visitor wrote 3 years 9 weeks ago

I agree with Jan's comment about some of these articles coming across as patronizing, mainly because 9 times out of 10 the article wouldn't be written if it was a guy. Again, like Kim said, it is good for women to get the coverage, but at what cost. I suppose you can't have your cake and eat it too, so any coverage is good.I'm not the most accomplished huntress out there and have lots to learn, but I am reminded that lots of guys aren't that accomplished either when I have helped out some of our friends who come to hunt with us on occasion. Perhaps this is the true angle of the media and us gals just rise to the top as the best sellers.FYI, our deer haven't been moving much and I have my sidekick Shawn with me, keep happy thoughts for us since she thinks she may be ready to shoot this year. With some luck we'll be sending pictures of her first deer.

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from Jan wrote 3 years 9 weeks ago

Katie's right. When I first read the articles, my instinct was to be critical....ie:"If you were to meet me, I don't look like a person that hunts," she said. And I'm thinking, what does a "person who hunts" look like...that seemed like such a niave statement, but then again, this gal is only 16 yrs. old.So then I moved on to the seasoned huntress and her terrific opener..."Women face 'no limitations' when it comes to hunting," she said.Then:"But, my job is over when I shoot it. I never gut 'em, and that's just never been my job," she said.Anyway, I've had time to mull it over, and think maybe Katie (and Kim) are right. (Must have been the cold meds making me think ugly thoughts.) It's just that some of those articles come across as "patronizing" and I get a little defensive.

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from NorCal Cazadora wrote 3 years 9 weeks ago

I think it's going to take a while.But you're right - we're hunters first. When I started my blog last year, I thought it was going to be all about being a woman hunter and that my readers would all be women. And sometimes it's very female focused. But I quickly learned that 90 percent of what I had to say about the experience of hunting was relevant to all of us - men, women and children alike.While I'm not optimistic about women getting anywhere close to 50 percent anytime soon, one thing I would like to see that is achievable is more focus on experienced women hunters. So many of these stories - for good reason, I suppose - are about women's first experiences, which reinforces an image of clumsiness that I'd like to see go away. I mean, we're all clumsy when we're new at something, but let's focus on some hotshots so readers don't get the idea that gender, not newness, is the issue.Good thing is that we have people like you presenting the breadth of our experiences, and every little bit counts.

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from Katie wrote 3 years 9 weeks ago

Hopefully, as more stories are published about women hunters, they norm will become just that and it will no longer be a suprise. I think that it will take a few more articles for people to realize it does happen, and then we won't stand out as being a few in the many.....Hopefully.But until then, like you said, we can keep praising the ones that are in the spotlight!

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from Kimberly Hiss wrote 3 years 8 weeks ago

Well, there's certainly no "right answer" on this one. But we all do our part for the future of women hunters just by being out there -- doing what we do and doing it well. NorCal, that's a good point about wishing these articles would focus on experienced hunters -- I do see some such stories, but not nearly enough. Paula: what an interesting rifle-buying experience -- I can't imagine what that salesperson thought you were doing there if not outfitting yourself for a hunt! And I agree, Laura, this topic will likely keep coming around. It's a discussion that seems well worth having once in awhile. -K.H.

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from Laura Benjamin wrote 3 years 8 weeks ago

The surprise expressed by both men and women when they see or hear of a woman hunting is similar to what I heard when I enlisted in the military "many moons" ago. Comments ranged from, "you're not the type" to "you must be looking for a husband" and then there was the "Hmmmm, you know what they say about women in the military".Perhaps when we act in a way that upsets people's judgments of us, it proves just how superficial we can be with one another.Most of us aren't aware what people (especially the quiet, introverted, low-key types) are capable of. We make assumptions pretty quickly based on the way people look, how they talk and how 'Madison Avenue' says we should look/talk/act etc.Perhaps that's one of the reasons why folks are so underutilized at work or why we don't allow our kids to fail now and then. We make assumptions of what people are capable of and it cheats them of the opportunity to prove themselves.Personally, I love being in the outdoors, watching the herds in their natural state, experiencing the camraderie and testing myself so I don't turn into a soft, fearful, timid person.We only get so many experiences in life and we all get to choose how we'll test ourselves. I'd rather have something in the freezer to show for it!Kim, this is a great topic and sadly, one that will have a life of it's own for many years to come!

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from Paula wrote 3 years 8 weeks ago

I think women hunters are more acceptable today and that these articles are ok, but I tend to agree with Jan as they are patronizing. My hunting buddies respect me as an equal and I know I am lucky to have them. They are always calling the one guy to come help them when they shoot a deer and they are men. He appreciates that I take care of things myself, and so does my 15 year old son. There are a couple of old timers where I hunt who don't even acknowledge me except the one asked if I needed him to fill my tag. I was so mad, but the other guys told me to let it go and I am proving myself out in the field. When my sons took me to a major hunting store to buy me a rifle for my Christmas present we tried several rifles for fit and to see if I could see out of scope. The salesperson said to me well you have all that stuff on you will see out of scope better without your coat on. I said "sir, are you suggesting I strip before I shoot a deer" He turned beet red and said "Oh no I'm sorry, I didn't realize you were hunting with it."I'm not sure why I would own a rifle if I wasn't hunting with it, I am sure there are reasons people but I do think if I was a man, it would have been automatically assumed that I was making the purchase for hunting.I think blogs like this send a better message and I know all my hunting buddies are starting to check this site regularly.

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from Jacee wrote 3 years 9 weeks ago

I agree that these articles can be a double-edged sword. But overall, I think that the more women see women hunting, the more they will be interested. I do think that the women's articles take on a different slant, and maybe us gals are more open to talking about our clumsiness versus our kills.A few years ago I went to Becoming an Outdoorswoman (terrific program if you have the chance to go) and a local female sports writer did a great article on it. What I liked was how the article talked about camraderie, about learning new skills, about getting out and meeting people with the same interests. I would like to see more of those articles that encourage women from all walks of life to try something new in the outdoors. The tough part - they probably aren't very newsworthy unless they feature something different and unusual. I guess I will be ready for my photo op in my sytlish camo shirt and orange boonie cap!

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from Visitor wrote 3 years 9 weeks ago

Opps, I forgot that my name isn't posted when I use my husbands laptop. That was me at 3:23Lou A

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from Visitor wrote 3 years 9 weeks ago

I agree with Jan's comment about some of these articles coming across as patronizing, mainly because 9 times out of 10 the article wouldn't be written if it was a guy. Again, like Kim said, it is good for women to get the coverage, but at what cost. I suppose you can't have your cake and eat it too, so any coverage is good.I'm not the most accomplished huntress out there and have lots to learn, but I am reminded that lots of guys aren't that accomplished either when I have helped out some of our friends who come to hunt with us on occasion. Perhaps this is the true angle of the media and us gals just rise to the top as the best sellers.FYI, our deer haven't been moving much and I have my sidekick Shawn with me, keep happy thoughts for us since she thinks she may be ready to shoot this year. With some luck we'll be sending pictures of her first deer.

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from Jan wrote 3 years 9 weeks ago

Katie's right. When I first read the articles, my instinct was to be critical....ie:"If you were to meet me, I don't look like a person that hunts," she said. And I'm thinking, what does a "person who hunts" look like...that seemed like such a niave statement, but then again, this gal is only 16 yrs. old.So then I moved on to the seasoned huntress and her terrific opener..."Women face 'no limitations' when it comes to hunting," she said.Then:"But, my job is over when I shoot it. I never gut 'em, and that's just never been my job," she said.Anyway, I've had time to mull it over, and think maybe Katie (and Kim) are right. (Must have been the cold meds making me think ugly thoughts.) It's just that some of those articles come across as "patronizing" and I get a little defensive.

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from NorCal Cazadora wrote 3 years 9 weeks ago

I think it's going to take a while.But you're right - we're hunters first. When I started my blog last year, I thought it was going to be all about being a woman hunter and that my readers would all be women. And sometimes it's very female focused. But I quickly learned that 90 percent of what I had to say about the experience of hunting was relevant to all of us - men, women and children alike.While I'm not optimistic about women getting anywhere close to 50 percent anytime soon, one thing I would like to see that is achievable is more focus on experienced women hunters. So many of these stories - for good reason, I suppose - are about women's first experiences, which reinforces an image of clumsiness that I'd like to see go away. I mean, we're all clumsy when we're new at something, but let's focus on some hotshots so readers don't get the idea that gender, not newness, is the issue.Good thing is that we have people like you presenting the breadth of our experiences, and every little bit counts.

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from Katie wrote 3 years 9 weeks ago

Hopefully, as more stories are published about women hunters, they norm will become just that and it will no longer be a suprise. I think that it will take a few more articles for people to realize it does happen, and then we won't stand out as being a few in the many.....Hopefully.But until then, like you said, we can keep praising the ones that are in the spotlight!

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