


November 03, 2008
Risky Business
By Kim Hiss
"Heart attacks are three times more likely to take a life than a gunshot injury." That's the opinion regarding heart health among hunters expressed by Dr. Eric Good, a cardiologist at the University of Michigan Health System in a CNN story you may have seen last week.
The piece went on to assert Dr. Good's recommendations for hunters at risk, namely those with high blood pressure, high cholesterol, and diabetes. I'm sure we all know the common suggestions (most are just good sense), but they're always worth repeating. Dr. Good suggests that those with heart disease or a heart-related problem, or who have already suffered a heart attack should think carefully about where they hunt, and not go too far into the woods. Never hunt alone and always carry a cell phone. See your doctor for a checkup before the season starts, and it's not a bad idea to do some safe cardio training to get your body ready.
Dr. Good was especially concerned about hunters at the moment they spot or shoot an animal, as the "adrenaline dump" causes great stress on the heart. He also worried about strenuous activities, such as hauling a harvest out of the woods.
This is a pretty conscientious set of blog readers, so I'd like to think we're all taking good care of ourselves out there. But what about others you know? Do you get frustrated watching family members or friends ignore risk factors and not taking the precautions they should? I'm so health and safety conscious, I even take sleep deprivation very seriously. But I certainly worry about un-named people who don't want to let a "pesky" risk get in the way. -K.H.
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The older I get the closer to the truck I hunt. That day was a slap in the face that I'm not a kid any more...
I can still remember dragging out a buck I killed in 2002. It was a very long way from the truck, and I shot it just as it was getting dark around 4:30. The temperature was probably in the 30's and I left my big coat and treestand where I shot the deer, field dressed it and started dragging. By the time I got to my truck two hours later I had shed so many clothes on the trail I was topless and seeing stars that weren't there. I remember laying flat on my back for a good half hour feeling my heart beat through my chest and sweating and smiling thinking it's a good way to die...
Reading Mike's comments reminded me of something I wanted to share....My Dad, who turned 80 this year, and isn't in very good health, has always been an avid outdoorsman. Fishing, Hunting, Camping....you name it, I grew up in a family where those things were second nature.About 5 years ago, my Dad said, "Guess this will be my last year to hunt; I'm just not able to go like I once could." So my Mom, (who can't even kill a bug), started going with him! She would follow him into the woods a ways, and he'd sit her on a stump, or on the ground at the base of a tree with a walkie-talkie, and he'd go on to his ground blind. I often wondered what they would do if he managed to kill a deer... even together, they wouldn't have been strong enough to drag it out. (That never happened, tho.) Anyway, they did this for 2 or 3 years, because every year my Dad would say "Guess this will have to be my last year...." and Mom would start getting her gear together.Funny, she was the one who came back with deer stories; most of the time Dad didn't see anything! One morning, just at daylight, she was sitting on a hillside under a huge mountain laurel, and heard something breathing....it was a doe on the other side of the laurel! When it blew and ran, she screamed, and Daddy said he thought he was going to have a heart attack! That was his last year hunting. I hate that almost as much as he does. But I am also relieved that I don't have to worry about them taking to the woods every Nov.
A roll up plastic sled is a great tool. Makes hauling a deer out of the woods in any terrain much less stressful. Will also come in handy if hunting buddies need to haul me out of the woods some day. Now, I actually get more out of breath wrestling a deer around while gutting it.I had a mild heart attack a few years ago so try to stay in shape and eat better most of the time. But I still go into the woods (yesterday ) with only 2-hours of sleep, hike through hilly wooded terrain carrying a bow/gun with 20-40 pounds on my back, climb tree stands, and leave my cell phone in the truck because it doesn't work there anyway. I probably eat the riskiest foods while on hunting and fishing trips, though I should drink more beer and wine. At times my body might feel the stress a bit more than I'd like (though not as much as working or watching election results tally up).Suicidal? Absolutely not - I still crave the hunt and the taste of venison and grouse, and the desire to pass learned skills on to those younger.This is my selfish time ... when I can truly put the world behind me and actually live for a few hours or days. With a bit of luck this will be how I die, rather than in a sterile hospital room breathing through a tube and eating tasteless cream of wheat.Do others worry? Sure. But worrying is their own fault. Those important to me know that I love them, and life insurance is paid up - though it reminds me that I do need to get my will straightened up. Wonder why I am single?I love the story about the bowler that keeled over after rolling a 300; and the golfer that died after shooting his age; and the old hunter found sitting stiff at the base of a big oak, gun in hand, calm smile on his face, waiting for that big buck to show. They were blessed, breathing their last doing what they loved. Hmmm, there must be a reason why these are all men?
We always let each other know where we are going if we are alone. Cell phones and walkie talkies don't work well in our terrain. I'm sure lots of hunters deal with this.I have a friend who markets personal locater beacons for ACR, he told a story about a farmer who had a heart condition and farmed where there was no cell service. He got one of the locater beacons for his tractor. He had a heart attack, activited the device and saved his life, so I know there are products out there for all of us out in the boonies hunters. . . .now, if we'd just get them!
My major safety concern is having a Walkie Talkie or Cell Phone with you at all times. I think it was just last week that my dad woke me up and asked me if I wanted to go bow hunting. I opted not to go. Silently my Dad left the house, never told anyone that he was going or where. After I arose that morning I noticed he was gone, truck was still here so he had walked. Never took the Cell or Walkie. I had a pretty good idea where he walked to, but it started to get later and later. Finally though the dogs start barking because they had seen someone walk up. For some reason my dad just doesn't see the importance of keeping in contact, aggravates and scares the heck out of me. What if he fell out of a treestand? Or if I did? We're then relying on one another for help. A saying that my mom tells him at times like these is "That lump between your shoulders is more than a hat rack." Lol
Aaaah... they're picking on you! http://suburbanbushwacker.blogspot.com/:)
I try to stay in shape, but prior to what I know will be a more physically taxing hunt, ie: mountainous walking, high altitude, or anything out of my comfort zone (a few shooting houses and tree stands less than 1/4 mile from where I parked the truck)I do my best to prepare for those hunts. I never hunt alone unless my husband knows exactly which stand I'll be in, and if I don't call the minute I get back to the vehicle, he will come looking for me. I insist that he does the same if he's hunting alone. As for dragging a deer out....I bought him one of those hauler carts a few years back, and we use it if the terrain will allow. If not, I always summon help. Either him or one of our club members have always helped me drag. I don't mind admitting that I need help, and since I can out shoot 6 out of 10 of them, they don't tease me about asking for help.
I'm like you kim in that I take sleep deprivation seriously before a hunt especially. I make sure I get a least 7 hours - 8 is better for me. I do a lot of hiking before the season, try to walk 3 miles a day, (1 mile is up the mountain) eat healthy and have annual checkups. I am diabetic, and got caught in the woods one time with a low blood sugar without glucose or anything to eat in my back. I have had this disease so under control, I stopped making sure I had something just in case! Luckily for me I was close to camp and able to make it back and get my sugar up. Now I have glucose packs all over the place, never needed them again but I know they are they there. Hauling a deer is very strainful for me, I guess I should hike lugging a bag of rocks or something but the guys in the white coats probably come haul me away.I know a few hunters that go out that I worry about. Some are family members and some are just guys I hunt with. It's a hard situation, you can't just say you need to get in shape for this, they should know that right? or do they think they are in shape? I don't know, best you can do is know where they are hunting and know CPR.
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The older I get the closer to the truck I hunt. That day was a slap in the face that I'm not a kid any more...
I can still remember dragging out a buck I killed in 2002. It was a very long way from the truck, and I shot it just as it was getting dark around 4:30. The temperature was probably in the 30's and I left my big coat and treestand where I shot the deer, field dressed it and started dragging. By the time I got to my truck two hours later I had shed so many clothes on the trail I was topless and seeing stars that weren't there. I remember laying flat on my back for a good half hour feeling my heart beat through my chest and sweating and smiling thinking it's a good way to die...
Reading Mike's comments reminded me of something I wanted to share....My Dad, who turned 80 this year, and isn't in very good health, has always been an avid outdoorsman. Fishing, Hunting, Camping....you name it, I grew up in a family where those things were second nature.About 5 years ago, my Dad said, "Guess this will be my last year to hunt; I'm just not able to go like I once could." So my Mom, (who can't even kill a bug), started going with him! She would follow him into the woods a ways, and he'd sit her on a stump, or on the ground at the base of a tree with a walkie-talkie, and he'd go on to his ground blind. I often wondered what they would do if he managed to kill a deer... even together, they wouldn't have been strong enough to drag it out. (That never happened, tho.) Anyway, they did this for 2 or 3 years, because every year my Dad would say "Guess this will have to be my last year...." and Mom would start getting her gear together.Funny, she was the one who came back with deer stories; most of the time Dad didn't see anything! One morning, just at daylight, she was sitting on a hillside under a huge mountain laurel, and heard something breathing....it was a doe on the other side of the laurel! When it blew and ran, she screamed, and Daddy said he thought he was going to have a heart attack! That was his last year hunting. I hate that almost as much as he does. But I am also relieved that I don't have to worry about them taking to the woods every Nov.
A roll up plastic sled is a great tool. Makes hauling a deer out of the woods in any terrain much less stressful. Will also come in handy if hunting buddies need to haul me out of the woods some day. Now, I actually get more out of breath wrestling a deer around while gutting it.I had a mild heart attack a few years ago so try to stay in shape and eat better most of the time. But I still go into the woods (yesterday ) with only 2-hours of sleep, hike through hilly wooded terrain carrying a bow/gun with 20-40 pounds on my back, climb tree stands, and leave my cell phone in the truck because it doesn't work there anyway. I probably eat the riskiest foods while on hunting and fishing trips, though I should drink more beer and wine. At times my body might feel the stress a bit more than I'd like (though not as much as working or watching election results tally up).Suicidal? Absolutely not - I still crave the hunt and the taste of venison and grouse, and the desire to pass learned skills on to those younger.This is my selfish time ... when I can truly put the world behind me and actually live for a few hours or days. With a bit of luck this will be how I die, rather than in a sterile hospital room breathing through a tube and eating tasteless cream of wheat.Do others worry? Sure. But worrying is their own fault. Those important to me know that I love them, and life insurance is paid up - though it reminds me that I do need to get my will straightened up. Wonder why I am single?I love the story about the bowler that keeled over after rolling a 300; and the golfer that died after shooting his age; and the old hunter found sitting stiff at the base of a big oak, gun in hand, calm smile on his face, waiting for that big buck to show. They were blessed, breathing their last doing what they loved. Hmmm, there must be a reason why these are all men?
We always let each other know where we are going if we are alone. Cell phones and walkie talkies don't work well in our terrain. I'm sure lots of hunters deal with this.I have a friend who markets personal locater beacons for ACR, he told a story about a farmer who had a heart condition and farmed where there was no cell service. He got one of the locater beacons for his tractor. He had a heart attack, activited the device and saved his life, so I know there are products out there for all of us out in the boonies hunters. . . .now, if we'd just get them!
My major safety concern is having a Walkie Talkie or Cell Phone with you at all times. I think it was just last week that my dad woke me up and asked me if I wanted to go bow hunting. I opted not to go. Silently my Dad left the house, never told anyone that he was going or where. After I arose that morning I noticed he was gone, truck was still here so he had walked. Never took the Cell or Walkie. I had a pretty good idea where he walked to, but it started to get later and later. Finally though the dogs start barking because they had seen someone walk up. For some reason my dad just doesn't see the importance of keeping in contact, aggravates and scares the heck out of me. What if he fell out of a treestand? Or if I did? We're then relying on one another for help. A saying that my mom tells him at times like these is "That lump between your shoulders is more than a hat rack." Lol
Aaaah... they're picking on you! http://suburbanbushwacker.blogspot.com/:)
I try to stay in shape, but prior to what I know will be a more physically taxing hunt, ie: mountainous walking, high altitude, or anything out of my comfort zone (a few shooting houses and tree stands less than 1/4 mile from where I parked the truck)I do my best to prepare for those hunts. I never hunt alone unless my husband knows exactly which stand I'll be in, and if I don't call the minute I get back to the vehicle, he will come looking for me. I insist that he does the same if he's hunting alone. As for dragging a deer out....I bought him one of those hauler carts a few years back, and we use it if the terrain will allow. If not, I always summon help. Either him or one of our club members have always helped me drag. I don't mind admitting that I need help, and since I can out shoot 6 out of 10 of them, they don't tease me about asking for help.
I'm like you kim in that I take sleep deprivation seriously before a hunt especially. I make sure I get a least 7 hours - 8 is better for me. I do a lot of hiking before the season, try to walk 3 miles a day, (1 mile is up the mountain) eat healthy and have annual checkups. I am diabetic, and got caught in the woods one time with a low blood sugar without glucose or anything to eat in my back. I have had this disease so under control, I stopped making sure I had something just in case! Luckily for me I was close to camp and able to make it back and get my sugar up. Now I have glucose packs all over the place, never needed them again but I know they are they there. Hauling a deer is very strainful for me, I guess I should hike lugging a bag of rocks or something but the guys in the white coats probably come haul me away.I know a few hunters that go out that I worry about. Some are family members and some are just guys I hunt with. It's a hard situation, you can't just say you need to get in shape for this, they should know that right? or do they think they are in shape? I don't know, best you can do is know where they are hunting and know CPR.
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