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January 06, 2009

Dick Cheney, Guest of Honor at AMFF - Huh?

By Tim Romano & Kirk Deeter


If this is true, it is surely a sign that the apocalypse is upon us:

It seems that Ted Williams over at Fly Rod and Reel has "an unimpeachable source (suggesting) that the American Museum of Fly Fishing is going to make none other than VP Dick Cheney its guest of honor at its spring meeting."

I haven't a clue who over there at the AMFF thought it was okay to invite Dick to the party, but apparently they haven't been following the news during the past two presidential terms.  I'm sure we could argue politics here until we're all blue in the face, but one thing is for certain - Cheney has absolutely horrible environmental record, particularly with regard to fly fishers in America.
  
I honestly can't understand this one. Ignoring science and altering water policy to win battleground states shouldn't get you invited to a place who's mission statement says, "promoting an understanding of and appreciation for the history, traditions, and practitioners, past and present, of the sport of fly fishing in order to nurture, expand, and disseminate its rich heritage to a variety of audiences. This is accomplished by collecting, preserving, displaying, studying and interpreting the artifacts, art, and literature of the sport."

Shame on them.

Just in case you were living under a rock the past eight years, here's a small sampling of what Dick has done for our nation's fisheries, courtesy of Ted Williams' blog

From the Washington Post., read about the biggest fish-kill the West has ever seen, courtesy of the museum’s hero:

“Law and science seemed to be on the side of the fish. Then the Vice President stepped in. First Cheney looked for a way around the law, aides said. Next he set in motion a process to challenge the science protecting the fish, according to a former Oregon congressman who lobbied for the farmers. Because of Cheney's intervention, the government reversed itself and let the water flow in time to save the 2002 growing season, declaring that there was no threat to the fish. What followed was the largest fish kill the West had ever seen, with tens of thousands of salmon rotting on the banks of the Klamath River. Characteristically, Cheney left no tracks.”

Also from the Washington Post:


“The revelation by a former Environmental Protection Agency official that a member of Vice President Dick Cheney's staff altered the politically damaging testimony of an EPA colleague is only the latest evidence of Cheney's influence and power in shaping the nation's environmental policy.”

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/washingtonpostinvestigations/2008/07/anglers_environmental_control.html

From the Los Angeles Times: "Dick Cheney battles Laura Bush over protecting Pacific Ocean:"

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/presidentbush/2008/11/cheney-loses.html

From the New York Times:

"Dick Cheney’s Last-Gasp Fight Against Clean Air"

http://theboard.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/11/14/dick-cheneys-last-gasp-fight-against-clean-air/

Isn't enough enough?  A hero?  You tell me...

TR

from Dash wrote 3 years 4 weeks ago

Wow! I thought this was supposed to be a fly fishing blog, but it seems to have been hijacked by Koolade drinkers from the Daily Kos.

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from blah wrote 3 years 4 weeks ago

ok dumb ass, the iraq war for starters, pipe lines through europe, contracts to all his buddies. you have to be an idiot to think the democratic congress that still had no majority control had anything to do with the economy, 1 year in and the ship was sunk and is still sinking. Idiot, finance, so your a finacial advisor, gee that is a tough gig to get, any body with a heart beat can get that job, no whonder you guide. Go curl up with your rod and cheney and do everyone a favor, don't have kids cause we don't need anymore self proclaim know it alls. You would know a fact if you saw one. You just go to church and believe what ever your preacher says.

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from Red wrote 3 years 4 weeks ago

Bluerabbit,Huh? I'm not sure I know what a "marine preserves" is, is that made with apricots?Nice comments though! Here's another example of gulability when it comes to the media. Not a single fact stated here, just regurgitated hatred from the media about a man you know nothing about. And you have the audacity to point out MY political ideology. Accusations and opinions do not constitute hard facts!Stop throwing stones!!!

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from bluerabbit wrote 3 years 4 weeks ago

WHAT!!!!!!!!!! Cheney?????.This is an outrage. As for Mr Red I suggest you do some more reading, Cheney set aside a few acres in his home state and then trashed the rest of the country as VP, just as Bush is setting aside some marine preserves that have no conflict with BIG OIL, does not make you an environmentalist. Cheney is a thug and should be in Jail, irregardless of your political ideology.Of all the poeple that they could have chose and they are quite possibly narrowing it down to Cheney, SICK.Lets hope he makes it to a Bird Hunting synopisis 1st, maybe if he shoots someone in the crowd after leaving office and now as a civilian he will be hauled off to his own prison cell.

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from Red wrote 3 years 4 weeks ago

blah,I get pretty good reception under this rock of mone! Funny how that works. You sit in your enlightened bungalo with your head in the sand like so many others, ingesting the crap that they feed you, waiting for Nirvana to suddenly appear and all to be well. And I actually think about what info comes my way, from both sides, and think about it, scrutinze it, investigate it, and make my own decisions about how things really might be!I'll give yo the same opportunity Tim gave me, tell me one person Cheney stole from or killed! I'm pretty sure the guy he shot didn't die! And if you've ever willingly paid for gas to fill up your gas tank, that's not thieft! Once again lots of accusations and opinions, NO FACTS!!!You say he's been killing and robbing from the entire planet for the past eight years, I guess you didn't hear that the Bush administration has given more money and aid to continent of Africa than any person or party in the history of mankind!!! Look it up, even with your head buried in the sand, you can find that out!!!Proof of the crashing economy can directly be associated with the current democratic congress and senate. It's so strange how the economy was great, sorry, exceptionally great, until after the democrates took controll in 2006. After all, they are the ones holding the purse strings, not the administration. But you knew that of course!!!And as for being a guide, I do it part time for fun. My regular job makes me lots of money, probably from people like you who can't figure thier own finances out on their own because their heads are, once again, buried in the sand!

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from blah wrote 3 years 4 weeks ago

You have to be living under a rock if you think Cheney is a decent human. I don't give a F*** if he likes to hunt or fish, he's a theif, killer, and one of the biggest pieces of crap on the earth. If you get your news from a fly fishing article it's no whonder you think he's a decent guy, to bad him and all his buddies have been killing and robbing from the entire world for the last 8 years. And if you need proof look at the failed economy and the effect on the world economy, but I'm sure as a guide your pockets are lined with cash like his, only you worked for yours. Lets see how your business is this summer when no customers come out west cause their asses are unemployed and broke. Just like your goona be...........cheers my friend under the rock, or in your case you just forgot to get get off the river and understand how the world works. Good luck this summer, as Dick and his slimey budz are gonna be the only customers you have, and then lets see how you like them when they sink hooks in your head all day, and then say woops.

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from Red wrote 3 years 4 weeks ago

Bob,American Museum of Fly Fishing. AMFF. No guns, no hunting, no hunters saftey being given. I hope they are serving beer because if the attendees at this event are anything like the bloggers on this post...

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from Chad Love wrote 3 years 4 weeks ago

"I digress via Stella Artois"Best line of the whole thread...I will salute your wit via Optimator (tonight, I hasten to add as it's 8 a.m. here and I'm not in college any more...) only because my local house of fine and not-so-fine spirits is out of Stella at the moment...

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from Bob wrote 3 years 4 weeks ago

Red:Will Dick Cheney be conducting a Hunter Safety Course at the AMFF meeting? Perhaps the course could be given after Cheney has "a beer" for lunch?

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from Riceman wrote 3 years 4 weeks ago

One last thing I omitted in my last post: the Aviators that Dick Cheney wears when he is skiing have those sweet glacier glare resistant leather doo-hickeys on the sides. I'm also pretty sure he has a hip sack loaded with protective UV ointment and hand warmers.OK, now I'm done. I swear. Sorry Tim. Sorry Red. I digress via Stella Artois.Riceman

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from Koldkut wrote 3 years 4 weeks ago

All the other statements aside, I don't ever want to be near Cheney. Anyone who can pull the trigger, shoot someone and not take full responsiblity for it.......nuff said.

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from msmiller wrote 3 years 4 weeks ago

The Weekly Standard = neocon propaganda.Talk about a crappy journalism. Red, if this is all you read I feel pity for you. Open your eyes man. The rest of the world sees it. Why can't you.Thank god, Bush, Dick, and all his cronies will gone in a couple of weeks. We might even get our country back...

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from Riceman wrote 3 years 4 weeks ago

Wow! Fllogger just went Huffington/Drudge - BigE/Tupac - Oregon/Great Lakes Steelhead all wrapped into one. Layeth the smaketh down y'all!Honestly, I'll chalk this one up to "winter doldrums." Still... I like it. For the record: I'm still fairly certain that if Cheney skis... he wears a pair of tight Levi 501s... probably a pair of white rear entry Nordica boots as well. And a one-piece. Something Fluorescent. Maybe turquoise. And a pair of aviators.Rock on politicos!Riceman

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from Red wrote 3 years 4 weeks ago

If you look up the most recent studies on media bias, you will be very interested to find out where The Washington Post, The LA Times, and the New York Times stand. These are three of the MOST liberal newspapers out there and located in the most liberal parts of the country! Just look at the titles of the articles, "Dick Cheney's last-gasp fight against clean air"! Come on, you think this is going to be a objective peice? Think about were your getting this stuff! Please!!! And suggesting that the evil emperor Cheney has his hands in the cookie jar is NOT a provable fact, it's an accusation. Journalism is lost!!! If you think here-say can be backed up or would stand up in court, I'm very sorry my friend, not gonna happen.As far as being scrutinized, Cheney has been strangely absent from the media the last seven years, except for the attack pieces that seem to find their way on to the nightly news networks and papers op-eds. He may be the most camera shy politician on the planet.If you read the Weekly Standard article, you would know that this piece, like I stated before, was a look at this man through the eyes of a flyfisher/journalist. It's not a political crack piece, just a good story about a man who loves the sport. You might be suprized to find out that he is a human after all.I look foreward to seeing you on the river, I think we probably have more in common than you might think, ask Deeter and I'll see you on the Colordo!

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from Matt Penttila wrote 3 years 4 weeks ago

I have two thoughts on this... first, the AMFF would be pulling in lots of money to have the former VP attend, I saw this at a fundraiser for Quayle back in the mid 90's. People don't necessarily look at the enviromental policies, but more the chance to be in the same room as a VP or President. The second thought is that this may become a publicity stunt for the AMFF to try and pull in the money. Just keep clear of the muzzle when he turns :)

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from Ramcatt wrote 3 years 4 weeks ago

I once hit the aforementioned house with a golf ball back in '03....just saying

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from tim romano wrote 3 years 4 weeks ago

Red,By the way - The Weekly Standard? Talk about biased. I'm just subscribing to provable facts. Nothing else.I agree that there's always something more. Always. It's just hard to dispute facts that can be backed up. We are talking about someone who has every move scrutinized.I tell you what. If we ever find ourselves on a stream together I'll take your advice and not discuss politics or religion. I have a feeling we'd only get into trouble.

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from Red wrote 3 years 4 weeks ago

You asked for one, I gave it to you! If you want to toss it up to self serving, be my guest. I don't care if anyone likes him or not (nor does he), just think about what your subscribing to.As a guide, I always laugh when some know it all brings his wife or family on a trip, walks tall like he knows what he's doing, sends me off with the family only to come back after his wife and 7 year old are slaying trout, and asks for help cause he hasn't even gotten a strike. No matter how much you know about something, there's still more. Same with politics and the media. You don't have to like FOX News, but you might get a better picture of what's going on if you diversify your media inputs once in a while.I guess this just strengthens the old saying, you don't dicuss politics or religion while fishing. Even the best freinds will disagree.

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from tim romano wrote 3 years 4 weeks ago

whoop-dee-do. He protected a National Park?I would think Yellowstone would be safe from even him. If you look a little closer into this move he added these acres after originally wanting to open it up to drilling. My guess... Well, he does own a house awfully close to this area. Hum? He loves to fish around here too. Hum? Self serving? I dunno...

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from Ramcatt wrote 3 years 4 weeks ago

naked women in the boat is a passion I can get *ahem* behind...

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from Red wrote 3 years 4 weeks ago

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from Red wrote 3 years 4 weeks ago

Tim,I'll give you one. He added 671,000 acres to Wyoming wilderness by introducing legislation in both the 97th and 98th Congress BANNING OIL AND GAS LEASING and protecting Yellowstone National Park. Does that make anyones ears hurt to hear some truth? I hope so.By no means do I think Cheney is an angel and should be honored by the AMFF,but I do think they looked into this before making a choice as to who to invite. My point is this, the media labeled Cheney from the start as an evil oil puppet master, and so it was! Does anyone ever look into these accusations and articles for the truth? No, the LA Times says it's the truth, so it is! Don't bother to decifer the political agenda of a journalist, they are all un-biased! Right? We should all be just a little skeptical when ingesting information put out by any media.If the readers of this post want a look at Cheney through the eyes of a fly fisherman/journalist, Matt Labash of the Weekly Standard spent a day on the river with VP Cheney and wrote the article, "The Passion of Dick Cheney, fishing the Snake River with the Vice President". It's a great article and should be read by everyone on this blog. Read this and tell me that anyone with this much passion for our sport could possibly be the same man the media makes him out to be! Pay close attention to the eighth from the last paragraph.Media drives the mood of the country, and politicians should worry about making a difference instead of playing to the media!

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from tim romano wrote 3 years 4 weeks ago

Red,Do me this favor. Tell me one positive this that Cheney has done for fishing in America. Just one. The hard facts are that he's done nothing but drag us back decades in the fight to save our wild places.I can think of a multitude of other people that should be considered before that oaf.

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from tim romano wrote 3 years 4 weeks ago

Richard,What's disGusting about it?Like I said, this is speculation from an unnamed source that Cheney will be attending this meeting. IF true it's a slap in the face to fly fishers all over the nation. He's done nothing but harm to our fisheries. Why would they celebrate him?Now if you're suggesting that the Washington Post, New York Times, LA Times aren't credible sources on Mr. Cheney's atrocities I suggest calling them out on it and see how far you get.Last time I checked those we're pretty stand-up newspapers reporting hard facts.

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from Red wrote 3 years 4 weeks ago

I like how once the media depics a person as evil, they can so easily insert his name into a biased newspaper column and all the sheep beleive it to be the honest truth. You all should look into these "articles" before you post references to them and find out the facts. If you honestly beleive these finger pointers called journalist are telling you the truth 100% of the time, I've got some snake oil that will cure global warming!!!

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from Richard wrote 3 years 4 weeks ago

Check your information and your source. This is discusting

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from Dave Orndorf wrote 3 years 4 weeks ago

Once you think you've seen it all....Inviting Dick Cheny as the "honored" speaker at AMFF is like having Bush as the honored speaker at the National Mensa conventionI think it's an ugly rumor. Can't possibly be true.

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from tom warner wrote 3 years 4 weeks ago

If true, I am enraged! Are these people completely nuts! The only place Cheney should be invited to is counseling outside his prison cell. He and his puppet, Bush, have done more damage to our land and sport than any other administration in our history. If AMFF is actually going to do this, the entire membership should resign!Tom

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from tim romano wrote 3 years 4 weeks ago

Riceman,I've seen that one too. We dubbed it perhaps the greatest bumper sticker of all time.So funny...

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from Riceman wrote 3 years 4 weeks ago

I saw a great sticker on a chairlift tower this past weekend in Silverton, CO:"Dick Cheney Skis in Jeans."It works on so many levels.Riceman

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from Ramcatt wrote 3 years 4 weeks ago

(Stolen contact info from Buster)Let the AMFF know how you feel...Catherine E. Comar, Executive DirectorAmerican Museum of Fly Fishing4104 Main StreetManchester, Vermont 05254Telephone: 802-362-3300Fax: 802-362-3308amff@amff.com

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from Wags wrote 3 years 4 weeks ago

Maybe because his efforts could directly result in Flyfishing and all it's traditions becoming only relics in a museum?? Maybe they see him as good for business.....(wicked sarcasm, in case it doesn't translate).

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from Dash wrote 3 years 4 weeks ago

Wow! I thought this was supposed to be a fly fishing blog, but it seems to have been hijacked by Koolade drinkers from the Daily Kos.

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from blah wrote 3 years 4 weeks ago

ok dumb ass, the iraq war for starters, pipe lines through europe, contracts to all his buddies. you have to be an idiot to think the democratic congress that still had no majority control had anything to do with the economy, 1 year in and the ship was sunk and is still sinking. Idiot, finance, so your a finacial advisor, gee that is a tough gig to get, any body with a heart beat can get that job, no whonder you guide. Go curl up with your rod and cheney and do everyone a favor, don't have kids cause we don't need anymore self proclaim know it alls. You would know a fact if you saw one. You just go to church and believe what ever your preacher says.

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from Red wrote 3 years 4 weeks ago

Bluerabbit,Huh? I'm not sure I know what a "marine preserves" is, is that made with apricots?Nice comments though! Here's another example of gulability when it comes to the media. Not a single fact stated here, just regurgitated hatred from the media about a man you know nothing about. And you have the audacity to point out MY political ideology. Accusations and opinions do not constitute hard facts!Stop throwing stones!!!

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from bluerabbit wrote 3 years 4 weeks ago

WHAT!!!!!!!!!! Cheney?????.This is an outrage. As for Mr Red I suggest you do some more reading, Cheney set aside a few acres in his home state and then trashed the rest of the country as VP, just as Bush is setting aside some marine preserves that have no conflict with BIG OIL, does not make you an environmentalist. Cheney is a thug and should be in Jail, irregardless of your political ideology.Of all the poeple that they could have chose and they are quite possibly narrowing it down to Cheney, SICK.Lets hope he makes it to a Bird Hunting synopisis 1st, maybe if he shoots someone in the crowd after leaving office and now as a civilian he will be hauled off to his own prison cell.

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from Red wrote 3 years 4 weeks ago

blah,I get pretty good reception under this rock of mone! Funny how that works. You sit in your enlightened bungalo with your head in the sand like so many others, ingesting the crap that they feed you, waiting for Nirvana to suddenly appear and all to be well. And I actually think about what info comes my way, from both sides, and think about it, scrutinze it, investigate it, and make my own decisions about how things really might be!I'll give yo the same opportunity Tim gave me, tell me one person Cheney stole from or killed! I'm pretty sure the guy he shot didn't die! And if you've ever willingly paid for gas to fill up your gas tank, that's not thieft! Once again lots of accusations and opinions, NO FACTS!!!You say he's been killing and robbing from the entire planet for the past eight years, I guess you didn't hear that the Bush administration has given more money and aid to continent of Africa than any person or party in the history of mankind!!! Look it up, even with your head buried in the sand, you can find that out!!!Proof of the crashing economy can directly be associated with the current democratic congress and senate. It's so strange how the economy was great, sorry, exceptionally great, until after the democrates took controll in 2006. After all, they are the ones holding the purse strings, not the administration. But you knew that of course!!!And as for being a guide, I do it part time for fun. My regular job makes me lots of money, probably from people like you who can't figure thier own finances out on their own because their heads are, once again, buried in the sand!

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from blah wrote 3 years 4 weeks ago

You have to be living under a rock if you think Cheney is a decent human. I don't give a F*** if he likes to hunt or fish, he's a theif, killer, and one of the biggest pieces of crap on the earth. If you get your news from a fly fishing article it's no whonder you think he's a decent guy, to bad him and all his buddies have been killing and robbing from the entire world for the last 8 years. And if you need proof look at the failed economy and the effect on the world economy, but I'm sure as a guide your pockets are lined with cash like his, only you worked for yours. Lets see how your business is this summer when no customers come out west cause their asses are unemployed and broke. Just like your goona be...........cheers my friend under the rock, or in your case you just forgot to get get off the river and understand how the world works. Good luck this summer, as Dick and his slimey budz are gonna be the only customers you have, and then lets see how you like them when they sink hooks in your head all day, and then say woops.

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from Red wrote 3 years 4 weeks ago

Bob,American Museum of Fly Fishing. AMFF. No guns, no hunting, no hunters saftey being given. I hope they are serving beer because if the attendees at this event are anything like the bloggers on this post...

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from Chad Love wrote 3 years 4 weeks ago

"I digress via Stella Artois"Best line of the whole thread...I will salute your wit via Optimator (tonight, I hasten to add as it's 8 a.m. here and I'm not in college any more...) only because my local house of fine and not-so-fine spirits is out of Stella at the moment...

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from Bob wrote 3 years 4 weeks ago

Red:Will Dick Cheney be conducting a Hunter Safety Course at the AMFF meeting? Perhaps the course could be given after Cheney has "a beer" for lunch?

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from Riceman wrote 3 years 4 weeks ago

One last thing I omitted in my last post: the Aviators that Dick Cheney wears when he is skiing have those sweet glacier glare resistant leather doo-hickeys on the sides. I'm also pretty sure he has a hip sack loaded with protective UV ointment and hand warmers.OK, now I'm done. I swear. Sorry Tim. Sorry Red. I digress via Stella Artois.Riceman

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from Koldkut wrote 3 years 4 weeks ago

All the other statements aside, I don't ever want to be near Cheney. Anyone who can pull the trigger, shoot someone and not take full responsiblity for it.......nuff said.

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from msmiller wrote 3 years 4 weeks ago

The Weekly Standard = neocon propaganda.Talk about a crappy journalism. Red, if this is all you read I feel pity for you. Open your eyes man. The rest of the world sees it. Why can't you.Thank god, Bush, Dick, and all his cronies will gone in a couple of weeks. We might even get our country back...

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from Riceman wrote 3 years 4 weeks ago

Wow! Fllogger just went Huffington/Drudge - BigE/Tupac - Oregon/Great Lakes Steelhead all wrapped into one. Layeth the smaketh down y'all!Honestly, I'll chalk this one up to "winter doldrums." Still... I like it. For the record: I'm still fairly certain that if Cheney skis... he wears a pair of tight Levi 501s... probably a pair of white rear entry Nordica boots as well. And a one-piece. Something Fluorescent. Maybe turquoise. And a pair of aviators.Rock on politicos!Riceman

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from Red wrote 3 years 4 weeks ago

If you look up the most recent studies on media bias, you will be very interested to find out where The Washington Post, The LA Times, and the New York Times stand. These are three of the MOST liberal newspapers out there and located in the most liberal parts of the country! Just look at the titles of the articles, "Dick Cheney's last-gasp fight against clean air"! Come on, you think this is going to be a objective peice? Think about were your getting this stuff! Please!!! And suggesting that the evil emperor Cheney has his hands in the cookie jar is NOT a provable fact, it's an accusation. Journalism is lost!!! If you think here-say can be backed up or would stand up in court, I'm very sorry my friend, not gonna happen.As far as being scrutinized, Cheney has been strangely absent from the media the last seven years, except for the attack pieces that seem to find their way on to the nightly news networks and papers op-eds. He may be the most camera shy politician on the planet.If you read the Weekly Standard article, you would know that this piece, like I stated before, was a look at this man through the eyes of a flyfisher/journalist. It's not a political crack piece, just a good story about a man who loves the sport. You might be suprized to find out that he is a human after all.I look foreward to seeing you on the river, I think we probably have more in common than you might think, ask Deeter and I'll see you on the Colordo!

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from Matt Penttila wrote 3 years 4 weeks ago

I have two thoughts on this... first, the AMFF would be pulling in lots of money to have the former VP attend, I saw this at a fundraiser for Quayle back in the mid 90's. People don't necessarily look at the enviromental policies, but more the chance to be in the same room as a VP or President. The second thought is that this may become a publicity stunt for the AMFF to try and pull in the money. Just keep clear of the muzzle when he turns :)

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from Ramcatt wrote 3 years 4 weeks ago

I once hit the aforementioned house with a golf ball back in '03....just saying

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from tim romano wrote 3 years 4 weeks ago

Red,By the way - The Weekly Standard? Talk about biased. I'm just subscribing to provable facts. Nothing else.I agree that there's always something more. Always. It's just hard to dispute facts that can be backed up. We are talking about someone who has every move scrutinized.I tell you what. If we ever find ourselves on a stream together I'll take your advice and not discuss politics or religion. I have a feeling we'd only get into trouble.

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from Red wrote 3 years 4 weeks ago

You asked for one, I gave it to you! If you want to toss it up to self serving, be my guest. I don't care if anyone likes him or not (nor does he), just think about what your subscribing to.As a guide, I always laugh when some know it all brings his wife or family on a trip, walks tall like he knows what he's doing, sends me off with the family only to come back after his wife and 7 year old are slaying trout, and asks for help cause he hasn't even gotten a strike. No matter how much you know about something, there's still more. Same with politics and the media. You don't have to like FOX News, but you might get a better picture of what's going on if you diversify your media inputs once in a while.I guess this just strengthens the old saying, you don't dicuss politics or religion while fishing. Even the best freinds will disagree.

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from tim romano wrote 3 years 4 weeks ago

whoop-dee-do. He protected a National Park?I would think Yellowstone would be safe from even him. If you look a little closer into this move he added these acres after originally wanting to open it up to drilling. My guess... Well, he does own a house awfully close to this area. Hum? He loves to fish around here too. Hum? Self serving? I dunno...

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from Ramcatt wrote 3 years 4 weeks ago

naked women in the boat is a passion I can get *ahem* behind...

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from Red wrote 3 years 4 weeks ago

!!!

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from Red wrote 3 years 4 weeks ago

Tim,I'll give you one. He added 671,000 acres to Wyoming wilderness by introducing legislation in both the 97th and 98th Congress BANNING OIL AND GAS LEASING and protecting Yellowstone National Park. Does that make anyones ears hurt to hear some truth? I hope so.By no means do I think Cheney is an angel and should be honored by the AMFF,but I do think they looked into this before making a choice as to who to invite. My point is this, the media labeled Cheney from the start as an evil oil puppet master, and so it was! Does anyone ever look into these accusations and articles for the truth? No, the LA Times says it's the truth, so it is! Don't bother to decifer the political agenda of a journalist, they are all un-biased! Right? We should all be just a little skeptical when ingesting information put out by any media.If the readers of this post want a look at Cheney through the eyes of a fly fisherman/journalist, Matt Labash of the Weekly Standard spent a day on the river with VP Cheney and wrote the article, "The Passion of Dick Cheney, fishing the Snake River with the Vice President". It's a great article and should be read by everyone on this blog. Read this and tell me that anyone with this much passion for our sport could possibly be the same man the media makes him out to be! Pay close attention to the eighth from the last paragraph.Media drives the mood of the country, and politicians should worry about making a difference instead of playing to the media!

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from tim romano wrote 3 years 4 weeks ago

Red,Do me this favor. Tell me one positive this that Cheney has done for fishing in America. Just one. The hard facts are that he's done nothing but drag us back decades in the fight to save our wild places.I can think of a multitude of other people that should be considered before that oaf.

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from tim romano wrote 3 years 4 weeks ago

Richard,What's disGusting about it?Like I said, this is speculation from an unnamed source that Cheney will be attending this meeting. IF true it's a slap in the face to fly fishers all over the nation. He's done nothing but harm to our fisheries. Why would they celebrate him?Now if you're suggesting that the Washington Post, New York Times, LA Times aren't credible sources on Mr. Cheney's atrocities I suggest calling them out on it and see how far you get.Last time I checked those we're pretty stand-up newspapers reporting hard facts.

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from Red wrote 3 years 4 weeks ago

I like how once the media depics a person as evil, they can so easily insert his name into a biased newspaper column and all the sheep beleive it to be the honest truth. You all should look into these "articles" before you post references to them and find out the facts. If you honestly beleive these finger pointers called journalist are telling you the truth 100% of the time, I've got some snake oil that will cure global warming!!!

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from Richard wrote 3 years 4 weeks ago

Check your information and your source. This is discusting

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from Dave Orndorf wrote 3 years 4 weeks ago

Once you think you've seen it all....Inviting Dick Cheny as the "honored" speaker at AMFF is like having Bush as the honored speaker at the National Mensa conventionI think it's an ugly rumor. Can't possibly be true.

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from tom warner wrote 3 years 4 weeks ago

If true, I am enraged! Are these people completely nuts! The only place Cheney should be invited to is counseling outside his prison cell. He and his puppet, Bush, have done more damage to our land and sport than any other administration in our history. If AMFF is actually going to do this, the entire membership should resign!Tom

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from tim romano wrote 3 years 4 weeks ago

Riceman,I've seen that one too. We dubbed it perhaps the greatest bumper sticker of all time.So funny...

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from Riceman wrote 3 years 4 weeks ago

I saw a great sticker on a chairlift tower this past weekend in Silverton, CO:"Dick Cheney Skis in Jeans."It works on so many levels.Riceman

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from Ramcatt wrote 3 years 4 weeks ago

(Stolen contact info from Buster)Let the AMFF know how you feel...Catherine E. Comar, Executive DirectorAmerican Museum of Fly Fishing4104 Main StreetManchester, Vermont 05254Telephone: 802-362-3300Fax: 802-362-3308amff@amff.com

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from Wags wrote 3 years 4 weeks ago

Maybe because his efforts could directly result in Flyfishing and all it's traditions becoming only relics in a museum?? Maybe they see him as good for business.....(wicked sarcasm, in case it doesn't translate).

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