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David E. Petzal on Teaching Your Child to Kill

If you give a youngster a tennis racket or a soccer ball or a baseball bat, you can teach him or her about sportsmanship and competition. If you give a boy or girl a gun, you teach that child about life and death. People who kill things can be more reverential of life than people who do not. The person who causes creatures' deaths and watches them struggle against it has an intimate knowledge of the tragedy of life departing. Nonhunters choose to ignore the fact that animals must die in order for us to eat, and hold forth on the cruelty of hunting while wolfing down veal scallopini that a week earlier was a terrified calf bawling in a slaughterhouse. Death is part of life for us and for all things.

ASSIGNMENT NO. 1: TEACH YOUR KIDS THAT THE CONCEPT OF CRUELTY IS ALIEN TO HUNTING
Hunting is part of nature. Predation is part of nature. Death is part of nature. To label any of these processes cruel is to impose particularly silly 21st-century human prejudices on phenomena that existed before men walked the earth. Nature is neither cruel nor benign. It simply is, and it doesn't care what we think about it.

ASSIGNMENT NO. 2: UNDERSTAND THAT CHILDREN REACT DIFFERENTLY TO KILLING
If your boy shouts, "Wow, I killed him!" or something like that, there is nothing wrong with him—he is just a boy. But he should understand that what he just killed wanted to live as badly as he does, and that he should feel sorrow as well as triumph. Other children will not relish death. If they kill, they will likely be saddened by it. This is natural too. Some youngsters are horrified by death and by the prospect of causing it. They are not meant to be hunters. They are no less courageous or worthy than kids who itch to hunt—they are simply different, and you must respect that.

ASSIGNMENT NO. 3: TEACH KIDS THAT EACH DEATH IS A NECESSARY TRAGEDY, BUT A TRAGEDY NONETHELESS
Some kids never accept this—they love to see the bodies flop, and they become adults who love to see the bodies flop. Those people give me the creeps, and if I had such a youngster, I would suggest that he try some other sport.

ASSIGNMENT NO. 4: IMPRESS ON YOUR KID THAT IF THERE IS SUCH A THING AS A SIN IN HUNTING, IT IS WOUNDING AN ANIMAL
Make it clear to your kids that if they are not willing to give their all to becoming competent with gun or bow, they have no business afield. Explain to them also that if they hunt enough, they are eventually going to wound something, and it is going to escape to suffer. It may take two seasons for this to happen, or 50, but it is going to happen. All they can do is work at becoming as skilled as possible and hope it doesn't.

ASSIGNMENT NO. 5: SHOW THEM THAT THEY DO NOT HAVE TO KILL TO ENJOY HUNTING
It may take a couple of seasons for a young person to discover this, or it may take a lot longer. There is no substitute for success early in a hunter's life, and that means getting game. But show your kids that it shouldn't always be that way. Teach them that there is much to love about hunting even when you get no game. A friend of mine who has hunted for nearly 60 years went to Africa last year and although he brought a rifle, he did not fire a single shot. He was perfectly happy to look at the game and the stars and enjoy the success of other, younger hunters. That is the highest level at which hunting can be enjoyed.

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from danedo wrote 38 weeks 3 days ago

hmmm interesting thoughts

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from Gman wrote 38 weeks 2 days ago

This should be posted in every camp in America.

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from MICHAEL C. BALLARD wrote 37 weeks 4 days ago

Great article..If your kids are going to hunt they should read and reread this. My 19 year old son started hunting with me at age 6. (Did not carry a loaded firearm for several more years!)From the begnnng I tried to teach the items discussed in this article but like most parents I did not know if I had any success. Thank God all my efforts have seemed to paid off. I have observed him not taking shots unless he is sure of a clean kill. He has killed 10 deer since age 12 and all but 3 harvested where they stood. The other 3 within 50 yards of the shot. (He still uses a 243 bolt action) This from a child who still will go the the garage and find the cricket making noise in the middle of the night, catch it and release it outside. In addition to our weekend hunts we annually spend a week at a cabin during Thanksgiving. When he was about 15 and I had not harvested a deer for 2 years he was puzzled at my smile as we were driving home. I think he now understands it's not all about the kill.

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from Clay Cooper wrote 37 weeks 3 days ago

My 9 year old Grandson Alex slammed his teacher and classmates the other day when one said that hunting is cruel and that’s all you do Alex. He responded, it’s not whether or not you get something it’s what you see and do and we spotted over 40 Elk last weekend top that! He said!!

This kid is too awesome!!! So watch out Dave, this kid may be giving you and Phil competition someday!!

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from herbie57_57 wrote 37 weeks 2 days ago

There are a lot of great points in here. I wish people would take into consideration that even the beef they eat had to be killed some how. I would rather know where my food is coming from. Shooting animals in order to control population is much better than letting the animals starve from over population also, if only more people could understand that.

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from stilloutoffocus wrote 37 weeks 3 hours ago

Reading this article while holding my 16-month-old son in my lap says something to me. I myself have only been hunting 2 seasons and this last deer season passed on several shots only because i didnt feel confident i would kill the animals where they stood. I may have been chastised by my father in law and hunting mentor but it means more to me to let an opportunity go by than risk wounding an animal and letting it suffer. Something i hope to instill in my own boys as i introduce them to hunting in the coming years.

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from rabbitpolice88 wrote 36 weeks 3 days ago

Excellent article on teaching a child to hunt. I learned a great deal and have taken note.

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from bigeee wrote 36 weeks 2 days ago

A day in the field with a caring parent can teach a child more about life than ten soccer seasons combined. Make it a point to share your love of the outdoors with your children. They will be better adults for the experience (and so will you).

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from SamIAm wrote 35 weeks 5 days ago

This article isn't just about kids. There are a lot of adults out there who don't understand hunting either.

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from senkoman12 wrote 34 weeks 1 hour ago

i am 14 i consider myself a conservationist my father and mentor teach me about respecting nature even my nonhunting relatives teach me about respecting nature my rule thumb listen even if they say huntings cruel everybody has their own opinion

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from Chandler Man wrote 33 weeks 3 days ago

Excellent article! I especially like #5 about not having to kill to enjoy hunting. I have two sons- 12 and 19, and the 12 dosen't enjoy hunting if he isn't shooting, I will definetely have him read this article.

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from KMB33 wrote 33 weeks 2 days ago

I am 13 and recently was muzzleloader hunting. I passed up 5-6 deer 100 yards away because they were all qaurtering and moving. I got a deer that day but it was standing broad side, 100 yards away, and a nearly gaurenteed kill. Then I spent ten minutes watching the squirells play around.

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from streack wrote 33 weeks 2 days ago

There is a great deal of responsibility on every hunter and fisherman/woman's shoulders. The actions of few will classify the many, so it is important to hold yourself and the animals with the highest reguards.

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from Bella wrote 32 weeks 4 days ago

Good job Dave! Most Americans get every piece of meat they eat from a styrofoam tray. They loose the sense that life eats life and they are dependant on agribusiness for sustainance. When times get hard, they have not the skills to feed themselves.
It is better to teach kids a bit of gardening, so they know how to grow a potato from an eye on a potato skin. It is good to raise a few chickens, so a kid can learn about the birds after learning about the bees. Then chop one so they can learn how it is done, fried chicken after is a fine incentive. I've chopped a lot of chickens in my day (a few rabbits, lambs and goat kids too). When I do I calm the animal, give it a little feed, then I say how I have fed it and watered it and cared for it every day, but today it is my turn and it will feed me and mine. Then I do whatever I'm gonna do quickly and mercifully, then we do what we need to do to turn it into good meat then we eat. No meat tastes better than meat you raised or hunted, but you gotta get blood on your hands to do it.

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from buckshot89 wrote 32 weeks 2 days ago

great article, my brother is the prime example for number five. he has hunted for ten years, only taking three deer. if he doesnt feel the shot he wont take it. he enjoys the hunt for what it is. i wish more people would be like this. i would also like to see a great number of the "professional" hunters read this article. it seems like they love to see the "body flop."

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from Love2Hunt wrote 32 weeks 17 hours ago

This is a good article. I think that perhaps this is the hardest part for kids to handle. A lot of kids cope with it in different ways. Some have no problem with it. I do not have any kids but I would try and tell my child that it is ok if you have "respect" for the animal. And what I mean by that is that once you have a downed animal, you take appropriate pictures, field dress, and then later on eat the meat. I think too that there is just so much more to hunting, than the kill. For me, the memories of friends and family is the main reason I enjoy it so much. Relaxing in the outdoors with loved ones, you just can't beat it.

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from Reid Jones wrote 27 weeks 6 days ago

nice article. i agree with just about everything in the article

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from dwj.blueheron wrote 24 weeks 2 days ago

Well spoken and a necessary read for all hunters. At 24 years old I can see that this article is right on because I still vividly remember my introduction to hunting. I'll never forget how much of a realization I had when my dad harvested a great buck, his best back then, when I had been hunting 3 or 5 years. We had a little bit of work to find the deer and Dad was getting worried. I found it for him about 140 yards from where it had stood, and Dad said a prayer immediately and he was so relieved. I think I grew up and learned more in those 30 minutes in the woods than I could have learned in 10 years elsewhere. It was just one of those moments. Thanks for such a great article.

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from goosekiller15 wrote 19 weeks 4 days ago

i am 16 now and it took me a while to learn that when huntin its not always about killing its about makeing memories and having fun when i was 12 i went deer hunting for the first time i had a weekend to get a deer me and dad where in a blind and it was the last day and a nice 12 point came by at 60 yds and i missed and i cryed the whole way home and my dad told me that hunting isnt all a bout killing and he asked me if i had a good time i said yes and he said thats all that matters the next year i ended up killing the same deer he was a 13 point hes still on my wall and it allways reminds me of that memorie

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from brian_3339 wrote 16 weeks 2 days ago

Well written! I agree with most of what you posted, with the exception of Assignment #3. The overwhelming majority of us hunt for sport, not out of necessity, so while I agree that each death is a tragedy, they are not all necessary - it is one that we choose to create. The true tragedy would be to waste what you have taken in the field. If you don't plan to eat (or give to someone who will) what you've killed, then stick to clay pigeons!

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from KJ wrote 15 weeks 6 hours ago

Excellent points, Dave. This is exactly why I despise most hunting shows where the "host" has to whoop and shout and dance with glee over letting the life out of an animal that very badly wanted to live. Killing is a part of hunting, and death is a part of the life cycle. It should be respected.

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from meagel wrote 15 weeks 2 hours ago

This is possibly the greatest arcticle that I have read in a while. It seems that a lot of people, including me, take it for granted that we kill, and that every time we pick up a firearm or a bow it is a very powerful responsibility on our part. As hunters we have are obligated to protect and conserve nature. You dont have to be an "earth worshiper" or environmentalist to preserve the woods in which we hunt. All we need to do in the least is simple things, such as passing on a premature animal, picking up that piece of litter, and things like that. It is disgusting on television shows when I see a million deer around one stand and watching someone shoot the biggest deer, gloating and laughing at it, or watching someone that is disgusted at seeing only "small" deer scoring B&C or P&Y.

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from jeffo52284 wrote 14 weeks 6 days ago

great post my dad taught me these truths when i was younger and i plan on teaching them to my kids. my brother and i botth hunted with my dad and uncles when we were younger and now I hunt and he doesnt. he isnt against it or anti but it wasnt his thing and no one treated either of us any differently because of our differences and i am grateful for that

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from madtrapper wrote 14 weeks 6 days ago

taking life gives us a reverence for all life, and reminds us of our roles as hunters, fishers, and trappers. great article mr petzal, im gonna tuck this one away in case i ever need to be reminded of my ethics as an outdoorsmen

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from shane wrote 14 weeks 6 days ago

If you don't like animals dying because of you, kill yourself. Even the vegans result in dead animals, no doubt.

The best way to go about it is to cut to the chase and do the killing yourself.

Cows get to live a muddy, short, crowded, boring life, then get their throats cut or brains pistoned.

Deer get to starve or freeze to death or get eaten half alive by something with a lot of teeth and no mercy.

A wild animal killed by a skilled human hunter is the luckiest animal to ever land in something's belly.

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from Big C wrote 14 weeks 4 days ago

Good article. It is very true that there is a lot more to hunting than simply killing an animal.

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from Elmer Fudd wrote 14 weeks 4 days ago

Provocative title! but good article.

I usually feel remorse killing small game, but don't feel a thing for a deer. Something wrong with me?

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from buckeye wrote 14 weeks 4 days ago

wow that was a great article. It should be required reading for anyone teaching a youngster to hunt. I feel remorse for everything I kill. I used to hunt with someone who felt nothing after killing a deer. It seemed he hunted because he hated deer and wanted them all dead. He creeped me out and I no longer hunt with him. I think feeling a little sadened when taking a life is an important part of hunting. The day I stop feeling that is the day I stop hunting.

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from albertahunter wrote 14 weeks 3 days ago

Real good article. Should be part of hunter training.
took me a couple decades to realize I didn't have to fill every tag I had or kill every buck I got the crosshairs on. I have a great collection of heads and racks and unless its the next world record dont care if I never shoot another large buck. To let a good buck live is a great feeling but fooling him again is fun too and I am more relaxed knowing I dont have to kill something to have had a great hunting trip.

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from s-kfry wrote 14 weeks 3 days ago

The intellectual dishonesty of non-hunters has always driven me nuts and Dave pegs it here. Independent of your philosophy or religion or belief in how we all got here we do need to accept that death happens, it happens quite regularly, and we have responsibility in it. The question is not if it will happen or even when it will happen but WHAT part WE play in it and HOW we go about dealing it out.

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from BigWoodsHunter57 wrote 14 weeks 3 days ago

I feel the same way when it comes to this article..Im fed up with people telling me how cruel hunting is and that killing animals is wrong..Id like to put them back in time 400 years and see what they eat then..

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from fisherman wrote 14 weeks 3 days ago

Dave, you could not have said it better. I am only 13, but I am an ethical hunter who truly cares about what he hunts and how he hunts. I refuse to take part in ethically questionable practices, and I feel remorse for everything I harvest. If you hunt to kill, you are truly not a hunter and you are missing out on the best part. I would rather eat an animal or fish that I have humanely harvested than something that lived a cramped life of obesity ended in terror and pain. We as responsible hunters cherish every aspect of nature and love nature more than the naysayers. Most of whom never spend time in the wild. If it was reasonable I would totally boycott mass-produced (aka farm-raised) meat. Unfortunately, it's not. And contrary to perhaps many of you, I do believe hunting is a spiritual activity. I have the chance to interact with God's creation and God himself while I am hunting like no other time in my life. In Genesis God instructs us to care for and manage his creation, fill the earth and subdue it, and later in the Bible, "Arise, kill and eat." Hunting may not be a physical necessity, but I believe it plays one big role in keeping me spiritually alive. I have taken all these principles to heart, and I can't wait for the day when I can teach my own children to hunt responsibly and ethically.

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from Elmer Fudd wrote 14 weeks 3 days ago

some good thinking, fisherman

just a guess [informed by knowing some]... you are home-schooled?

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from fj40nut@yahoo.com wrote 14 weeks 2 days ago

Excellent article! I can remember going rabbit, pheasant and deer hunting with my Dad and Grandfather. Those memories are some of the best I have. It didn't matter if we shot anything that day it was just the fact that there were no telephones ringing and no TV's blairing. We were spending time together enjoying nature. For the people that complain about hunting they sadly will probably never understand. There is so much more to it. Some of the things I've seen and many of you have seen as well, I'm sure people might not believe. If you just sit and watch it is awesome the things some animals do. Those expierences and memories are worth more than any non-hunter could understand. So to all of you reading this good luck on all of your future hunts.

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from j-johnson17 wrote 14 weeks 2 days ago

I think I agree with everything that is said in this article. Good work. I think it is especially important for kids that are or aren't, either way, going to be hunters understand the entire cycle of life - beginning to end. It may be a difficult teach, but it needs to be done.

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from Elmer Fudd wrote 14 weeks 1 day ago

regarding my remark about home-schooling: I have noticed that such kids typically are often excellent in writing and English. I would lay odds that Fisherman, 13, see above, is Home Schooled. Sorry for going off-topic.

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from AliceA wrote 14 weeks 9 hours ago

"TEACH YOUR KIDS THAT THE CONCEPT OF CRUELTY IS ALIEN TO HUNTING"

You indoctrinate your children to remove their compassion? You are actually sick. Really, truly sick.

"Predation is part of nature. Death is part of nature. To label any of these processes cruel is to impose particularly silly 21st-century human prejudices "

So? People kill other people in nature, but once you become civilised you make a moral judgement not to do it.

You are privileged enough to live in the richest country in the world, so no, animals don't need to be killed for people to eat, and even if they did, that's not why you hunt. But then, if you see nothing wrong with teaching your children to kill, you probably see nothing wrong with lying and hypocrisy.

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from nerffodder wrote 13 weeks 6 days ago

number 4 holds a special meaning to me 'cus it is the reason I can live with killing. So it hurt me when I missed a wounded squirrel at 6 paces last season, and Im not good at "dispatching" it with a knife. This is the drive for me to not only be good at skeet, but to be able to aim my 870 like a rifle 'n hit something.

AliceA, I think you are on the wrong website, 'cus your a$$ is about to get chewed!

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from Elmer Fudd wrote 13 weeks 5 days ago

Alice A. we will never convince.

>animals don't need to be killed for people to eat

Alice, perhaps you need to see the video where the wolf eats the deer alive without killing it. So if you are a meat-eater [you don't say] I want you to eat your next beef right off the hoof, taking chunks with a knife, alive! My point? it is silly to criticize hunting as a form of killing.

Are you concerned about influencing children? I think you need to realize that the headline is intentionally provocative. I scolded Petzal already for that. Are you really reading what he and others has to say? If you are really concerned about children who become hunters, take any sampling you like from those that learn to and those that don't, and I'll lay odds that the better, finer, more-properly-socialized less-screwed-up kids are the hunters by leaps and bounds. Raise your child to be a hunter!

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from JOHN ANDERSON wrote 13 weeks 5 days ago

OH, ALICEA,WE ARE LUCKY TO LIVE HERE IN THE USA! 2 THINGS IN LIFE THAT ARE CERTAIN DEATH AND TAXES.AS FOR HUMAN PREJUDICES"I FIND THAT CIVILTY,IS A RARE AND PRECIOUS COMMODITY.MY FAMILY HAS FISHED,AND HUNTED THIS WONDERFUL COUNTRY OF OURS SINCE THEY STEPPED OFF THE MAY FLOWER.I FOR ONE AM GLAD THAT I WAS TAUGHT AT AN EARLY AGE HOW THE NATURE OF THINGS REALLY WORK.YOU HAVE YOURSELF A GLORIOUS,SAFE 4th OF JULY!

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from shane wrote 13 weeks 5 days ago

Alice, animals are dying because of you, especially if you are a vegan. It takes a lot of habitat and fuel to get all that specialized food to you. So kill yourself. I refer you to my original post.

Us hunters like to not lie to ourselves, and get our food in the greenest, most local, most free range, most humane way possible - killing it cleanly ourselves in the wild. Sorry about your sheltered life.

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from klug3 wrote 13 weeks 4 days ago

Hunting should be part of schools cirriculum. Nice article!

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from hjohn429 wrote 13 weeks 4 days ago

Great article that is just about how my dad taugt me.

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from ironsights wrote 13 weeks 4 days ago

great job, now if we can just get you to write an article explaining the birds and the bees, all our life's problems will be answered

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from jbird wrote 13 weeks 3 days ago

Great article Dave. Very similar to how I'm raising my children. My daughter sat in deer stands w/ me for 5 years before she carried a gun and shot her first whitetail last fall. My son's next.

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from CarolineTC wrote 13 weeks 1 day ago

Get real, you are teaching your kids who are not born to be killers for humans are not made to do such to kill an animals and watch it suffer and die. "Respect"? Why don't you instead teach your children the animals too want to live and if we have the choice to kill or not to kill we should choose not to kill. Teach your children to eat food that God gave us (plants) that do not require to kill and will be filled with nutrients. Food such as pasta, rice, bread, potatoes, all kinds of grains, nuts and seed loaded with protein, calcium and iron the way God wanted man to eat, not to kill for unnecessary reason but "sports". There are so many great food that children can eat and no life has to be destroyed. You can teach your children about life and death and that animals do suffer, but in a way to say that is why we do not harm them.

Teach your children well, respect life

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gdx2yVWUN8c&feature=channel_page

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from Clay Cooper wrote 13 weeks 1 day ago

MOON BAT ALERT!

WOW CarolineTC

Is this the best you can come up with!

What about Kaibab!

What happens when deer and elk become overabundant and die of starvation and dieses!

CarolineTC you came to the wrong place to start a fight!

Once again, if you don’t understand the history of what happened in Kaibab Arizona, you’ll never get it!

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from idahooutdoors wrote 13 weeks 3 hours ago

As a father of two little boys, 3 and 4, I am just starting to teach them the ways of the world and the woods, thanks for the tips...

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from nc30-06 wrote 12 weeks 6 days ago

Bella, I usually disagree with your posts, but you were right on with this one.
Most of you get it. The obvious, shall we say "politically correct" (yuck) maybe never will.
Dave, you brought a tear to my eyes with this one. I thought back to when my dad took me on my first hunt. He was an honorable and respectful man and I now realize more of what he was teaching me.
I always enjoy the hunt, even when not seeing any game I am hunting.

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from shane wrote 12 weeks 6 days ago

Caroline, you are either a vegan or are completely lost in space.

If you are lost in space, have fun.

If you are a vegan, your diet/lifestyle is terrible for the environment. Do you grow all your own, or do you require lots of fuel to get all that vegan organic food to you? Your carbon footprint must be huge.

I like local, organic, free range, all natural, zero preservative, low carbon food. I kill it myself on foot. Beat that.

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from shane wrote 12 weeks 6 days ago

We weren't meant to eat meat? Then why do we have the dentition of an omnivore? Do you even know what that means? Who told you we weren't meant to eat meat?

If we aren't supposed to be eating meat, then why did all of our ancestors do it? Why do our closest relatives, chimpanzees, do it?

Either you never think for yourself, or you are blind. If you just used your brain and were honest with yourself, you would see the folly of your ways.

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from JOHN ANDERSON wrote 12 weeks 4 days ago

IM NOT A SMART MAN BY ANY MESAURE.BUT I DO BELIVE CAVEMEN&WOMAN WERE EATING MEAT WAY BEFORE THEY WERE WEARING BURKINSTOCKS IN THERE GARDENS.

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from rocketman121 wrote 12 weeks 3 days ago

CarolineTC, God says in Genesis 1 that humans are over every living thing on the earth, in the sea, and in the air. If we are supposed to eat only plants, why do we have sharp teeth? As David said, people who have seen death understand that it is sad; and therefore value life more(in general). Children who are trained to handle guns safely at an early age are less likely to misuse them. Hunting allows us to enjoy God's creation, since it is impossible to hunt indoors... Hunters have to know about the animals they are hunting (what they look like, how they act, what they eat, where they live, just to start). As someone else said, a clean shot to the vitals is the most merciful death a hunted animal will face. The alternative "natural deaths" range from starvation to freezing to being mauled by another animal.

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from huntcamp wrote 12 weeks 20 hours ago

Awesome article. I literally watched an anti eat a burger right in front of me, as he was saying that he never caused the death of an animal. And yes children are born killers, we being omnivores eat MEAT and vegetables, the fact that children are human makes them that. Animals must die for us to live. My sister never used to eat meat. She was always sick. Unfortunately, she was hospitalized and was diagnosed with not having enough of the protein, iron and all the other vitamins meat gives us. She also had multiple miscarriages. She started eating meat instead of the "supplement pills" and guess what she became healthy and has 2 lovely kids.

I will always be thankful that my dad got me into hunting at a very early age. I will do the same with my kids, assuming I have some.

We do not survive with our physical skills, we survive with our brain. Some people choose not to eat meat and "not kill anything" that is fine, for them. But please do not expect the rest of us to blindly follow.

On another note, All the anti's that I know, they are the most stressed, angry, bunch of prople that I have ever met. They are always so defensive and extremely easy to offend. Almost always very naive. For the most part, I do not see these traits among hunters and people with a sense of reality.

It is the cycle of life.

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from shane wrote 12 weeks 20 hours ago

huntcamp - NICELY DONE.

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from GiantWhitetails wrote 12 weeks 10 hours ago

+1 huntcamp. well put.

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from CarolineTC wrote 12 weeks 5 hours ago

Another hunting accident young victim

11-Year-Old Boy Dies in Hunting Accident
7/10/2009

ABBEVILLE, S.C. (AP) -- An 11-year-old South Carolina boy has died after his rifle accidentally fired as he climbed down from a hunting stand.

Multiple media outlets reported that John Michael Evans of Abbeville died about an hour after he was struck in the head shortly after 6 p.m. Thursday.

Abbeville County Coroner Ronnie Ashley says the boy was in a deer stand in a tree with a friend when he started climbing down and dropped his .22-caliber rifle and it fired.

Ashley says no autopsy is planned. The coroner and sheriff's deputies are investigating.

http://www.all-creatures.org/cash/taah-sh-20090710.html

When you will ever learn that you do not teach to kids kill you teach compassion, kindness and mercy.

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from rocketman121 wrote 12 weeks 5 hours ago

That is a sad incident, and I feel for the family. How can you teach those traits? They are sort of un-definable(you couldn't teach someone compassion by reading a dictionary)... In my opinion, you can only learn compassion by showing it. The same is true with kindness and mercy. Maybe you need to learn what compassion is; and be kind to the family, rather than trying to use this tragedy to prove your point.

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from shane wrote 12 weeks 1 hour ago

What does an accident have anything to to with compassion, kindness or mercy?

This kid is dead in a "hunting accident". And that proves what? Someone died yesterday in a car accident. Ban driving?

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from rocketman121 wrote 12 weeks 1 hour ago

Well said Shane. I think he is trying to say that hunting should be eliminated so guns can be "eliminated "(better stated: removed from responsible citizens), which would theoretically eliminate such accidents. As you point out, more people die from cars, but they don't try to ban driving...

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from huntcamp wrote 11 weeks 6 days ago

Tyson child accidental hanging and Iowa infant playground near strangulation very similar
Steve LombardiAttorney
(866) 735-1102 Ext 335Posted by Steve LombardiJune 18, 2009 1:10 PM
Tags: property owner liability, day care centers, infants and children0 CommentsPrint ArticleSubscribeA playground injury at the Apple Tree Daycare center in Dickinson County, Iowa was caused by a 5-year-old girl near strangulation caused by a jump rope around her neck hooking on the upper portion of the slide at her preschool as she slid down the slide. She was airlifted to the hospital in Sioux Falls, South Dakota and later released.

Original story by KCCI news.

Point of this is, that this is a dangerous world and unfortunately children and adults can be killed or seriously injured doing routine things. If you look at the statistics, they will show that hunting is quite safe. Yes there are tragedies, which can and should be avoided, but you can say that about any activity.

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from Buck wrote 11 weeks 3 days ago

Yea! Great Writing! We need more of this: hunting is so much more than the kill, it should be about the skill. Hunting is not about collecting the best trophy either. We're not just talking to kids here.
I wrote on this also: "Why Teach Hunting" buck@score-your-hunting.com

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from bljacobs2 wrote 10 weeks 4 days ago

Genesis 9:1-3

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from blake425 wrote 10 weeks 2 days ago

great article.hunting is also about the experience not just the kill.

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from trav wrote 9 weeks 4 days ago

To Alice up a ways:

I think you need to check your definitions of "cruelty" and "compassion". Cruelty is an indifference to suffering, compassion is a sympathy to suffering, therefore David's quote of "Teach your kids that the concept of cruelty is alien to hunting" is an attempt to instill compassion into hunters, not remove it.

And for what its worth, to future anti-hunting posters, the most painful and saddening deaths of an animal that I have witnessed are those getting clipped by a car in an overpopulated (by deer) metropolitan area, not one harvested by any hunters I've been with.

trav

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from BarkinSpider wrote 9 weeks 4 days ago

These are simply some of the best words on hunting ever written. Nicely done Mr. Petzel.

I wish more of the hunting shows and magazines had more focus on the enjoyment of the outdoors, putting food on your table with your own two hands, and the thrill of the HUNT itself over the "body flop" as you put it so well.

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from Bella wrote 32 weeks 4 days ago

Good job Dave! Most Americans get every piece of meat they eat from a styrofoam tray. They loose the sense that life eats life and they are dependant on agribusiness for sustainance. When times get hard, they have not the skills to feed themselves.
It is better to teach kids a bit of gardening, so they know how to grow a potato from an eye on a potato skin. It is good to raise a few chickens, so a kid can learn about the birds after learning about the bees. Then chop one so they can learn how it is done, fried chicken after is a fine incentive. I've chopped a lot of chickens in my day (a few rabbits, lambs and goat kids too). When I do I calm the animal, give it a little feed, then I say how I have fed it and watered it and cared for it every day, but today it is my turn and it will feed me and mine. Then I do whatever I'm gonna do quickly and mercifully, then we do what we need to do to turn it into good meat then we eat. No meat tastes better than meat you raised or hunted, but you gotta get blood on your hands to do it.

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from Gman wrote 38 weeks 2 days ago

This should be posted in every camp in America.

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from MICHAEL C. BALLARD wrote 37 weeks 4 days ago

Great article..If your kids are going to hunt they should read and reread this. My 19 year old son started hunting with me at age 6. (Did not carry a loaded firearm for several more years!)From the begnnng I tried to teach the items discussed in this article but like most parents I did not know if I had any success. Thank God all my efforts have seemed to paid off. I have observed him not taking shots unless he is sure of a clean kill. He has killed 10 deer since age 12 and all but 3 harvested where they stood. The other 3 within 50 yards of the shot. (He still uses a 243 bolt action) This from a child who still will go the the garage and find the cricket making noise in the middle of the night, catch it and release it outside. In addition to our weekend hunts we annually spend a week at a cabin during Thanksgiving. When he was about 15 and I had not harvested a deer for 2 years he was puzzled at my smile as we were driving home. I think he now understands it's not all about the kill.

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from herbie57_57 wrote 37 weeks 2 days ago

There are a lot of great points in here. I wish people would take into consideration that even the beef they eat had to be killed some how. I would rather know where my food is coming from. Shooting animals in order to control population is much better than letting the animals starve from over population also, if only more people could understand that.

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from Clay Cooper wrote 37 weeks 3 days ago

My 9 year old Grandson Alex slammed his teacher and classmates the other day when one said that hunting is cruel and that’s all you do Alex. He responded, it’s not whether or not you get something it’s what you see and do and we spotted over 40 Elk last weekend top that! He said!!

This kid is too awesome!!! So watch out Dave, this kid may be giving you and Phil competition someday!!

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from SamIAm wrote 35 weeks 5 days ago

This article isn't just about kids. There are a lot of adults out there who don't understand hunting either.

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from meagel wrote 15 weeks 2 hours ago

This is possibly the greatest arcticle that I have read in a while. It seems that a lot of people, including me, take it for granted that we kill, and that every time we pick up a firearm or a bow it is a very powerful responsibility on our part. As hunters we have are obligated to protect and conserve nature. You dont have to be an "earth worshiper" or environmentalist to preserve the woods in which we hunt. All we need to do in the least is simple things, such as passing on a premature animal, picking up that piece of litter, and things like that. It is disgusting on television shows when I see a million deer around one stand and watching someone shoot the biggest deer, gloating and laughing at it, or watching someone that is disgusted at seeing only "small" deer scoring B&C or P&Y.

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from madtrapper wrote 14 weeks 6 days ago

taking life gives us a reverence for all life, and reminds us of our roles as hunters, fishers, and trappers. great article mr petzal, im gonna tuck this one away in case i ever need to be reminded of my ethics as an outdoorsmen

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from Elmer Fudd wrote 13 weeks 5 days ago

Alice A. we will never convince.

>animals don't need to be killed for people to eat

Alice, perhaps you need to see the video where the wolf eats the deer alive without killing it. So if you are a meat-eater [you don't say] I want you to eat your next beef right off the hoof, taking chunks with a knife, alive! My point? it is silly to criticize hunting as a form of killing.

Are you concerned about influencing children? I think you need to realize that the headline is intentionally provocative. I scolded Petzal already for that. Are you really reading what he and others has to say? If you are really concerned about children who become hunters, take any sampling you like from those that learn to and those that don't, and I'll lay odds that the better, finer, more-properly-socialized less-screwed-up kids are the hunters by leaps and bounds. Raise your child to be a hunter!

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from JOHN ANDERSON wrote 13 weeks 5 days ago

OH, ALICEA,WE ARE LUCKY TO LIVE HERE IN THE USA! 2 THINGS IN LIFE THAT ARE CERTAIN DEATH AND TAXES.AS FOR HUMAN PREJUDICES"I FIND THAT CIVILTY,IS A RARE AND PRECIOUS COMMODITY.MY FAMILY HAS FISHED,AND HUNTED THIS WONDERFUL COUNTRY OF OURS SINCE THEY STEPPED OFF THE MAY FLOWER.I FOR ONE AM GLAD THAT I WAS TAUGHT AT AN EARLY AGE HOW THE NATURE OF THINGS REALLY WORK.YOU HAVE YOURSELF A GLORIOUS,SAFE 4th OF JULY!

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from huntcamp wrote 12 weeks 20 hours ago

Awesome article. I literally watched an anti eat a burger right in front of me, as he was saying that he never caused the death of an animal. And yes children are born killers, we being omnivores eat MEAT and vegetables, the fact that children are human makes them that. Animals must die for us to live. My sister never used to eat meat. She was always sick. Unfortunately, she was hospitalized and was diagnosed with not having enough of the protein, iron and all the other vitamins meat gives us. She also had multiple miscarriages. She started eating meat instead of the "supplement pills" and guess what she became healthy and has 2 lovely kids.

I will always be thankful that my dad got me into hunting at a very early age. I will do the same with my kids, assuming I have some.

We do not survive with our physical skills, we survive with our brain. Some people choose not to eat meat and "not kill anything" that is fine, for them. But please do not expect the rest of us to blindly follow.

On another note, All the anti's that I know, they are the most stressed, angry, bunch of prople that I have ever met. They are always so defensive and extremely easy to offend. Almost always very naive. For the most part, I do not see these traits among hunters and people with a sense of reality.

It is the cycle of life.

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from rabbitpolice88 wrote 36 weeks 3 days ago

Excellent article on teaching a child to hunt. I learned a great deal and have taken note.

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from bigeee wrote 36 weeks 2 days ago

A day in the field with a caring parent can teach a child more about life than ten soccer seasons combined. Make it a point to share your love of the outdoors with your children. They will be better adults for the experience (and so will you).

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from KMB33 wrote 33 weeks 2 days ago

I am 13 and recently was muzzleloader hunting. I passed up 5-6 deer 100 yards away because they were all qaurtering and moving. I got a deer that day but it was standing broad side, 100 yards away, and a nearly gaurenteed kill. Then I spent ten minutes watching the squirells play around.

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from buckshot89 wrote 32 weeks 2 days ago

great article, my brother is the prime example for number five. he has hunted for ten years, only taking three deer. if he doesnt feel the shot he wont take it. he enjoys the hunt for what it is. i wish more people would be like this. i would also like to see a great number of the "professional" hunters read this article. it seems like they love to see the "body flop."

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from Love2Hunt wrote 32 weeks 17 hours ago

This is a good article. I think that perhaps this is the hardest part for kids to handle. A lot of kids cope with it in different ways. Some have no problem with it. I do not have any kids but I would try and tell my child that it is ok if you have "respect" for the animal. And what I mean by that is that once you have a downed animal, you take appropriate pictures, field dress, and then later on eat the meat. I think too that there is just so much more to hunting, than the kill. For me, the memories of friends and family is the main reason I enjoy it so much. Relaxing in the outdoors with loved ones, you just can't beat it.

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from s-kfry wrote 14 weeks 3 days ago

The intellectual dishonesty of non-hunters has always driven me nuts and Dave pegs it here. Independent of your philosophy or religion or belief in how we all got here we do need to accept that death happens, it happens quite regularly, and we have responsibility in it. The question is not if it will happen or even when it will happen but WHAT part WE play in it and HOW we go about dealing it out.

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from fisherman wrote 14 weeks 3 days ago

Dave, you could not have said it better. I am only 13, but I am an ethical hunter who truly cares about what he hunts and how he hunts. I refuse to take part in ethically questionable practices, and I feel remorse for everything I harvest. If you hunt to kill, you are truly not a hunter and you are missing out on the best part. I would rather eat an animal or fish that I have humanely harvested than something that lived a cramped life of obesity ended in terror and pain. We as responsible hunters cherish every aspect of nature and love nature more than the naysayers. Most of whom never spend time in the wild. If it was reasonable I would totally boycott mass-produced (aka farm-raised) meat. Unfortunately, it's not. And contrary to perhaps many of you, I do believe hunting is a spiritual activity. I have the chance to interact with God's creation and God himself while I am hunting like no other time in my life. In Genesis God instructs us to care for and manage his creation, fill the earth and subdue it, and later in the Bible, "Arise, kill and eat." Hunting may not be a physical necessity, but I believe it plays one big role in keeping me spiritually alive. I have taken all these principles to heart, and I can't wait for the day when I can teach my own children to hunt responsibly and ethically.

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from shane wrote 13 weeks 5 days ago

Alice, animals are dying because of you, especially if you are a vegan. It takes a lot of habitat and fuel to get all that specialized food to you. So kill yourself. I refer you to my original post.

Us hunters like to not lie to ourselves, and get our food in the greenest, most local, most free range, most humane way possible - killing it cleanly ourselves in the wild. Sorry about your sheltered life.

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from Clay Cooper wrote 13 weeks 1 day ago

MOON BAT ALERT!

WOW CarolineTC

Is this the best you can come up with!

What about Kaibab!

What happens when deer and elk become overabundant and die of starvation and dieses!

CarolineTC you came to the wrong place to start a fight!

Once again, if you don’t understand the history of what happened in Kaibab Arizona, you’ll never get it!

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from JOHN ANDERSON wrote 12 weeks 4 days ago

IM NOT A SMART MAN BY ANY MESAURE.BUT I DO BELIVE CAVEMEN&WOMAN WERE EATING MEAT WAY BEFORE THEY WERE WEARING BURKINSTOCKS IN THERE GARDENS.

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from rocketman121 wrote 12 weeks 3 days ago

CarolineTC, God says in Genesis 1 that humans are over every living thing on the earth, in the sea, and in the air. If we are supposed to eat only plants, why do we have sharp teeth? As David said, people who have seen death understand that it is sad; and therefore value life more(in general). Children who are trained to handle guns safely at an early age are less likely to misuse them. Hunting allows us to enjoy God's creation, since it is impossible to hunt indoors... Hunters have to know about the animals they are hunting (what they look like, how they act, what they eat, where they live, just to start). As someone else said, a clean shot to the vitals is the most merciful death a hunted animal will face. The alternative "natural deaths" range from starvation to freezing to being mauled by another animal.

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from huntcamp wrote 11 weeks 6 days ago

Tyson child accidental hanging and Iowa infant playground near strangulation very similar
Steve LombardiAttorney
(866) 735-1102 Ext 335Posted by Steve LombardiJune 18, 2009 1:10 PM
Tags: property owner liability, day care centers, infants and children0 CommentsPrint ArticleSubscribeA playground injury at the Apple Tree Daycare center in Dickinson County, Iowa was caused by a 5-year-old girl near strangulation caused by a jump rope around her neck hooking on the upper portion of the slide at her preschool as she slid down the slide. She was airlifted to the hospital in Sioux Falls, South Dakota and later released.

Original story by KCCI news.

Point of this is, that this is a dangerous world and unfortunately children and adults can be killed or seriously injured doing routine things. If you look at the statistics, they will show that hunting is quite safe. Yes there are tragedies, which can and should be avoided, but you can say that about any activity.

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from blake425 wrote 10 weeks 2 days ago

great article.hunting is also about the experience not just the kill.

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from stilloutoffocus wrote 37 weeks 3 hours ago

Reading this article while holding my 16-month-old son in my lap says something to me. I myself have only been hunting 2 seasons and this last deer season passed on several shots only because i didnt feel confident i would kill the animals where they stood. I may have been chastised by my father in law and hunting mentor but it means more to me to let an opportunity go by than risk wounding an animal and letting it suffer. Something i hope to instill in my own boys as i introduce them to hunting in the coming years.

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from senkoman12 wrote 34 weeks 1 hour ago

i am 14 i consider myself a conservationist my father and mentor teach me about respecting nature even my nonhunting relatives teach me about respecting nature my rule thumb listen even if they say huntings cruel everybody has their own opinion

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from Chandler Man wrote 33 weeks 3 days ago

Excellent article! I especially like #5 about not having to kill to enjoy hunting. I have two sons- 12 and 19, and the 12 dosen't enjoy hunting if he isn't shooting, I will definetely have him read this article.

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from streack wrote 33 weeks 2 days ago

There is a great deal of responsibility on every hunter and fisherman/woman's shoulders. The actions of few will classify the many, so it is important to hold yourself and the animals with the highest reguards.

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from dwj.blueheron wrote 24 weeks 2 days ago

Well spoken and a necessary read for all hunters. At 24 years old I can see that this article is right on because I still vividly remember my introduction to hunting. I'll never forget how much of a realization I had when my dad harvested a great buck, his best back then, when I had been hunting 3 or 5 years. We had a little bit of work to find the deer and Dad was getting worried. I found it for him about 140 yards from where it had stood, and Dad said a prayer immediately and he was so relieved. I think I grew up and learned more in those 30 minutes in the woods than I could have learned in 10 years elsewhere. It was just one of those moments. Thanks for such a great article.

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from brian_3339 wrote 16 weeks 2 days ago

Well written! I agree with most of what you posted, with the exception of Assignment #3. The overwhelming majority of us hunt for sport, not out of necessity, so while I agree that each death is a tragedy, they are not all necessary - it is one that we choose to create. The true tragedy would be to waste what you have taken in the field. If you don't plan to eat (or give to someone who will) what you've killed, then stick to clay pigeons!

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from KJ wrote 15 weeks 6 hours ago

Excellent points, Dave. This is exactly why I despise most hunting shows where the "host" has to whoop and shout and dance with glee over letting the life out of an animal that very badly wanted to live. Killing is a part of hunting, and death is a part of the life cycle. It should be respected.

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from fj40nut@yahoo.com wrote 14 weeks 2 days ago

Excellent article! I can remember going rabbit, pheasant and deer hunting with my Dad and Grandfather. Those memories are some of the best I have. It didn't matter if we shot anything that day it was just the fact that there were no telephones ringing and no TV's blairing. We were spending time together enjoying nature. For the people that complain about hunting they sadly will probably never understand. There is so much more to it. Some of the things I've seen and many of you have seen as well, I'm sure people might not believe. If you just sit and watch it is awesome the things some animals do. Those expierences and memories are worth more than any non-hunter could understand. So to all of you reading this good luck on all of your future hunts.

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from j-johnson17 wrote 14 weeks 2 days ago

I think I agree with everything that is said in this article. Good work. I think it is especially important for kids that are or aren't, either way, going to be hunters understand the entire cycle of life - beginning to end. It may be a difficult teach, but it needs to be done.

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from klug3 wrote 13 weeks 4 days ago

Hunting should be part of schools cirriculum. Nice article!

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from nc30-06 wrote 12 weeks 6 days ago

Bella, I usually disagree with your posts, but you were right on with this one.
Most of you get it. The obvious, shall we say "politically correct" (yuck) maybe never will.
Dave, you brought a tear to my eyes with this one. I thought back to when my dad took me on my first hunt. He was an honorable and respectful man and I now realize more of what he was teaching me.
I always enjoy the hunt, even when not seeing any game I am hunting.

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from shane wrote 12 weeks 6 days ago

Caroline, you are either a vegan or are completely lost in space.

If you are lost in space, have fun.

If you are a vegan, your diet/lifestyle is terrible for the environment. Do you grow all your own, or do you require lots of fuel to get all that vegan organic food to you? Your carbon footprint must be huge.

I like local, organic, free range, all natural, zero preservative, low carbon food. I kill it myself on foot. Beat that.

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from shane wrote 12 weeks 6 days ago

We weren't meant to eat meat? Then why do we have the dentition of an omnivore? Do you even know what that means? Who told you we weren't meant to eat meat?

If we aren't supposed to be eating meat, then why did all of our ancestors do it? Why do our closest relatives, chimpanzees, do it?

Either you never think for yourself, or you are blind. If you just used your brain and were honest with yourself, you would see the folly of your ways.

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from rocketman121 wrote 12 weeks 5 hours ago

That is a sad incident, and I feel for the family. How can you teach those traits? They are sort of un-definable(you couldn't teach someone compassion by reading a dictionary)... In my opinion, you can only learn compassion by showing it. The same is true with kindness and mercy. Maybe you need to learn what compassion is; and be kind to the family, rather than trying to use this tragedy to prove your point.

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from shane wrote 12 weeks 1 hour ago

What does an accident have anything to to with compassion, kindness or mercy?

This kid is dead in a "hunting accident". And that proves what? Someone died yesterday in a car accident. Ban driving?

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from rocketman121 wrote 12 weeks 1 hour ago

Well said Shane. I think he is trying to say that hunting should be eliminated so guns can be "eliminated "(better stated: removed from responsible citizens), which would theoretically eliminate such accidents. As you point out, more people die from cars, but they don't try to ban driving...

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from Buck wrote 11 weeks 3 days ago

Yea! Great Writing! We need more of this: hunting is so much more than the kill, it should be about the skill. Hunting is not about collecting the best trophy either. We're not just talking to kids here.
I wrote on this also: "Why Teach Hunting" buck@score-your-hunting.com

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from trav wrote 9 weeks 4 days ago

To Alice up a ways:

I think you need to check your definitions of "cruelty" and "compassion". Cruelty is an indifference to suffering, compassion is a sympathy to suffering, therefore David's quote of "Teach your kids that the concept of cruelty is alien to hunting" is an attempt to instill compassion into hunters, not remove it.

And for what its worth, to future anti-hunting posters, the most painful and saddening deaths of an animal that I have witnessed are those getting clipped by a car in an overpopulated (by deer) metropolitan area, not one harvested by any hunters I've been with.

trav

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from BarkinSpider wrote 9 weeks 4 days ago

These are simply some of the best words on hunting ever written. Nicely done Mr. Petzel.

I wish more of the hunting shows and magazines had more focus on the enjoyment of the outdoors, putting food on your table with your own two hands, and the thrill of the HUNT itself over the "body flop" as you put it so well.

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from danedo wrote 38 weeks 3 days ago

hmmm interesting thoughts

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from Reid Jones wrote 27 weeks 6 days ago

nice article. i agree with just about everything in the article

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from goosekiller15 wrote 19 weeks 4 days ago

i am 16 now and it took me a while to learn that when huntin its not always about killing its about makeing memories and having fun when i was 12 i went deer hunting for the first time i had a weekend to get a deer me and dad where in a blind and it was the last day and a nice 12 point came by at 60 yds and i missed and i cryed the whole way home and my dad told me that hunting isnt all a bout killing and he asked me if i had a good time i said yes and he said thats all that matters the next year i ended up killing the same deer he was a 13 point hes still on my wall and it allways reminds me of that memorie

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from jeffo52284 wrote 14 weeks 6 days ago

great post my dad taught me these truths when i was younger and i plan on teaching them to my kids. my brother and i botth hunted with my dad and uncles when we were younger and now I hunt and he doesnt. he isnt against it or anti but it wasnt his thing and no one treated either of us any differently because of our differences and i am grateful for that

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from shane wrote 14 weeks 6 days ago

If you don't like animals dying because of you, kill yourself. Even the vegans result in dead animals, no doubt.

The best way to go about it is to cut to the chase and do the killing yourself.

Cows get to live a muddy, short, crowded, boring life, then get their throats cut or brains pistoned.

Deer get to starve or freeze to death or get eaten half alive by something with a lot of teeth and no mercy.

A wild animal killed by a skilled human hunter is the luckiest animal to ever land in something's belly.

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from Big C wrote 14 weeks 4 days ago

Good article. It is very true that there is a lot more to hunting than simply killing an animal.

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from buckeye wrote 14 weeks 4 days ago

wow that was a great article. It should be required reading for anyone teaching a youngster to hunt. I feel remorse for everything I kill. I used to hunt with someone who felt nothing after killing a deer. It seemed he hunted because he hated deer and wanted them all dead. He creeped me out and I no longer hunt with him. I think feeling a little sadened when taking a life is an important part of hunting. The day I stop feeling that is the day I stop hunting.

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from albertahunter wrote 14 weeks 3 days ago

Real good article. Should be part of hunter training.
took me a couple decades to realize I didn't have to fill every tag I had or kill every buck I got the crosshairs on. I have a great collection of heads and racks and unless its the next world record dont care if I never shoot another large buck. To let a good buck live is a great feeling but fooling him again is fun too and I am more relaxed knowing I dont have to kill something to have had a great hunting trip.

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from BigWoodsHunter57 wrote 14 weeks 3 days ago

I feel the same way when it comes to this article..Im fed up with people telling me how cruel hunting is and that killing animals is wrong..Id like to put them back in time 400 years and see what they eat then..

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from Elmer Fudd wrote 14 weeks 3 days ago

some good thinking, fisherman

just a guess [informed by knowing some]... you are home-schooled?

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from Elmer Fudd wrote 14 weeks 1 day ago

regarding my remark about home-schooling: I have noticed that such kids typically are often excellent in writing and English. I would lay odds that Fisherman, 13, see above, is Home Schooled. Sorry for going off-topic.

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from nerffodder wrote 13 weeks 6 days ago

number 4 holds a special meaning to me 'cus it is the reason I can live with killing. So it hurt me when I missed a wounded squirrel at 6 paces last season, and Im not good at "dispatching" it with a knife. This is the drive for me to not only be good at skeet, but to be able to aim my 870 like a rifle 'n hit something.

AliceA, I think you are on the wrong website, 'cus your a$$ is about to get chewed!

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from hjohn429 wrote 13 weeks 4 days ago

Great article that is just about how my dad taugt me.

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from ironsights wrote 13 weeks 4 days ago

great job, now if we can just get you to write an article explaining the birds and the bees, all our life's problems will be answered

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from jbird wrote 13 weeks 3 days ago

Great article Dave. Very similar to how I'm raising my children. My daughter sat in deer stands w/ me for 5 years before she carried a gun and shot her first whitetail last fall. My son's next.

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from idahooutdoors wrote 13 weeks 3 hours ago

As a father of two little boys, 3 and 4, I am just starting to teach them the ways of the world and the woods, thanks for the tips...

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from shane wrote 12 weeks 20 hours ago

huntcamp - NICELY DONE.

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from GiantWhitetails wrote 12 weeks 10 hours ago

+1 huntcamp. well put.

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from bljacobs2 wrote 10 weeks 4 days ago

Genesis 9:1-3

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from Elmer Fudd wrote 14 weeks 4 days ago

Provocative title! but good article.

I usually feel remorse killing small game, but don't feel a thing for a deer. Something wrong with me?

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from CarolineTC wrote 12 weeks 5 hours ago

Another hunting accident young victim

11-Year-Old Boy Dies in Hunting Accident
7/10/2009

ABBEVILLE, S.C. (AP) -- An 11-year-old South Carolina boy has died after his rifle accidentally fired as he climbed down from a hunting stand.

Multiple media outlets reported that John Michael Evans of Abbeville died about an hour after he was struck in the head shortly after 6 p.m. Thursday.

Abbeville County Coroner Ronnie Ashley says the boy was in a deer stand in a tree with a friend when he started climbing down and dropped his .22-caliber rifle and it fired.

Ashley says no autopsy is planned. The coroner and sheriff's deputies are investigating.

http://www.all-creatures.org/cash/taah-sh-20090710.html

When you will ever learn that you do not teach to kids kill you teach compassion, kindness and mercy.

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from CarolineTC wrote 13 weeks 1 day ago

Get real, you are teaching your kids who are not born to be killers for humans are not made to do such to kill an animals and watch it suffer and die. "Respect"? Why don't you instead teach your children the animals too want to live and if we have the choice to kill or not to kill we should choose not to kill. Teach your children to eat food that God gave us (plants) that do not require to kill and will be filled with nutrients. Food such as pasta, rice, bread, potatoes, all kinds of grains, nuts and seed loaded with protein, calcium and iron the way God wanted man to eat, not to kill for unnecessary reason but "sports". There are so many great food that children can eat and no life has to be destroyed. You can teach your children about life and death and that animals do suffer, but in a way to say that is why we do not harm them.

Teach your children well, respect life

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gdx2yVWUN8c&feature=channel_page

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from AliceA wrote 14 weeks 9 hours ago

"TEACH YOUR KIDS THAT THE CONCEPT OF CRUELTY IS ALIEN TO HUNTING"

You indoctrinate your children to remove their compassion? You are actually sick. Really, truly sick.

"Predation is part of nature. Death is part of nature. To label any of these processes cruel is to impose particularly silly 21st-century human prejudices "

So? People kill other people in nature, but once you become civilised you make a moral judgement not to do it.

You are privileged enough to live in the richest country in the world, so no, animals don't need to be killed for people to eat, and even if they did, that's not why you hunt. But then, if you see nothing wrong with teaching your children to kill, you probably see nothing wrong with lying and hypocrisy.

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