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April 28, 2006

The 50 Best Guns Ever Made, Revisited

By David E. Petzal and Phil Bourjaily

Editor's Note: Last February, Dave wrote a cover story titled "The 50 Best Guns Ever Made" that generated lots of heated opinion. In case any of you missed the piece, we've posted links to it in photo gallery form below. Keep an eye on this page next week as he returns to the subject with updates to the list and some fresh thoughts on these guns.

The 50 Best Guns Ever Made



Numbers 1 through 152

Numbers 16 through 3016

Nu31mbers 31 through 40

Numbers 41 through 50
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from Duck Creek Dick wrote 5 years 40 weeks ago

Re: hard recoiling A-5's.Make sure your friction pieces and rings are in their correct location. If you have them set behind the recoil spring for correct function with dove loads, then load up with 1 5/8oz. heavy field loads, you will get pounded and so will the action of that fine old shotgun. Keep the magazine tube clean and unoiled. Set the friction rings and pieces so that you get 100% reliability but nothing more. Gotta love long recoil shotguns!

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from Bubba wrote 5 years 40 weeks ago

Heath,Any caliber that will shoot at least a 100 grain bullet is sufficient for white tail deer.I have taken deer with 45 grain bullets, but I was able to select my target, at close range.Was squirrel hunting with a gent one day when we witnessed a small buck working toward us. At about 30 yards, M whispered to me, "Watch this!". The deer had no idea we were there. M slipped his Marlin auto loader .22LR over a log and tapped the deer once just behind the shoulder. The deer flinched, trotted about 30 yards and began feeding again. We watched quietly about one minute as the little slug took effect and the deer suddenly fell over and began kicking!Do I suggest the .22LR for deer?HELL no!Find a caliber that you can shoot comfortably, (noise/recoil) and practice, practice, practice!Bubba

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from Battlehound wrote 6 years 42 weeks ago

These "Best guns ever made" or "Only one gun" topics are presented with just one purpose in mind: to stimulate conversation and provoke controversy when there is not much else to write about. It works every time, because every "gun guy" (yep, I'm one, too!) has his own list. And it is always interesting and thought provoking.

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from Richard Beckinger wrote 6 years 42 weeks ago

What is considered the best sporting clays competition over-under 12 guage shotgun?

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from hexidismal wrote 6 years 48 weeks ago

Wow, what a great list .. that is if you're Zumbo. This article is worthless.

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from Dumb*ss wrote 7 years 3 weeks ago

Chris: My suggestion would be to do the following and then take it to the range again: 1) Clean it. I mean REALLY clean it. Use a good copper solvent, brush and swab until no more copper indicators on the patches. 2) Check & tighten scope mount screws. 3) Check & tighten the action screws. 4) Forget the vise. The .25-06 doesn't kick much and you shouldn't need the vise. If you're not comfortable shooting w/o the vise, have someone who knows what he's doing shoot it and see what kind of groups you get. I don't think it's the Rem. Core-Lokts - they've given me outstanding to more-than-acceptable groups in every gun in which I've ever used em, and chances are it's not the scope. Although you never know. Good luck.

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from chris wrote 7 years 3 weeks ago

HI i have a brand new remington 700 BDL 25 06 with a 4.5 to 14 power weaver scope I have ben shoting remington core locks and cant hold a very good group 3 1/2 to 4 inch group at 100 yards and i have a gun vise.what do you think is rong?

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from Breen wrote 7 years 6 weeks ago

Yeah, the Browning A-5 kicks, but mine has kicked me EVERY time I have pulled the trigger in 45 years of deer-dogging here in S.E. Virginia. That's two to five deer per season for 45 years. (You do the math) The most reliable shotgun ever made. Damn shame it is out of production. I'll hock the ol' lady's diamond first.A note on the blabber about the military and target guns... The article disclaimed them all by posting as the top 50 SPORTING arms, if I recall. The Colt M1911 is truly the most important auto pistol ever, but I cannot remember ever taking a buck with one. Couple of wild dogs and a feral cat or two, but never a deer. The only reason, as stated in the article, that the M98 and M1903 made the list was as their importance as sporters that were used for hunting.

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from Caleb wrote 7 years 6 weeks ago

You should add the Browning BT-100 stainless/blued for trapshooters. It trully is an amazing gun. I have 1 and it GREAT!

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from Petzal you said you hunt with AR15 wrote 7 years 7 weeks ago

I guess that list is subjective, indeed. So subjective as to be irrelevant.No AR15 depite thousands of men, women and children who hunt with them? HOw many people do you know who hunt with a Perazzi? Any? None?Petzal, your 1994 support of the assault weapons ban rears its head, again.Oh, and no Colt 1911? Kidding, right? Oh well, at least a bolt action shotgun made the list...(cough).

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from TNKen wrote 7 years 7 weeks ago

Where's Zumbo? No Colt AR-15 or M-16, Thompson 1921 Tommy Gun, Browning 1919, Browning Ma Deuce, Smith & Wesson Model 10, Colt 1911, S&W Model 19, M-1 Garand, M-14, AK-47. And finally, no Gatling gun or its successor in interest, the GE Minigun. Guess unless it has a bolt action, lever action, or throws shot, nothing counts here.Ken

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from Orion375HH wrote 7 years 15 weeks ago

Just trying to sneak this one in. I live overseas and was a little late getting the Sept Best Of The Best Issue. Since F&S didn't answer my e-mail concering it, I thought I'd try here. The products that were tested and recommended I'm sure are up to the job they were intended for but there is a glaring omission on all the test products. Mainly, what was the competition??? The two top binoculars are good ones but which ones did they compete against and why did the others fall short? At the very least, a list of the also rans should have been published. Plus, vendors were "asked" to submit items for testing and maybe the response was not great I don't know. I just feel like we got half the story.

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from Paul Lericos wrote 7 years 18 weeks ago

Good list but you left out one of the best target pistols, the Smith and Wesson Model 41.I have one with both the 7" sport barrel and the 5" heavy target barrel.I tick people off at the range when I outshoot there rifles with it.

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from BC Hunter wrote 7 years 25 weeks ago

You have got to be kidding, right? 50 best guns made, EVEROut of the 50 only 7 were not US manufactured or designed. The Mauser 98 was #2, the rifle design that was the cornerstone of todays bolt action rifles! #2??Perazzi, Beretta, Benelli, Merkel, Tikka and Westly Richards had one gun each.What about Holland & Holland, Jeffery, Rigby, Purdy, not to mention Lee-Enfield SMLE, Webley, and Parker-Hale?What about Krag-Jogenson, Sako, Brenneke, Mannlicher-Schoenaur, Sauer, Carcano, Shutlz & Larson, Luger, Schmidt-Ruben, Mosen-Nagant and on and on.You missed it by a kilometre.

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from Gary Livick wrote 7 years 25 weeks ago

I inherited a WWI Mauser 98 from my Uncle.I've been told that this 1898 built Mauser is worth good money.It is in very good shape.It has the strap clip located on the bottom of the rifle butt, has no pre-drilled holes for a scope, and has the detachable bayonet, so I'm pretty sure it is from the WWI era.What would a collector pay for a gun like this?

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from A Fly In The Ointment wrote 7 years 30 weeks ago

Does anyone else find it VERY strange that NO Colt firearms made this list of top 50 guns? It is obvious that this writer has a HUGE bias toward S&W..which no doubt is an excellent firearm...but NO Colts...come on...the Colt Python is clearly recognized by nearly all revolver enthusiasts as the finest handgun ever produced. For the Python not to make this list CLEARLY shows that this writer is not objective.

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from caster troy wrote 7 years 31 weeks ago

my 303 lee endfield number 1 mk 4 is one of the most kick ass acurate relieable put a smile on everytime, kick ass peace of gold walking down the trail king-shit for sure but I still need a bren gun and a colt 45.

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from Heath Blaylock wrote 7 years 43 weeks ago

I need some help I just got a TC Encore muzzeloader but im not sure what caliber barrel I will need for rifle hunting its just for whitetail deer hunting so I dont need anything to big but somthing with a punch can you guys help? thanks!

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from Travis wrote 7 years 46 weeks ago

I reckon I will jump in the fray with my carefully selected collection of firearms. First of all is my Winchester Model 100 .308. I changed the firingpin, scrubbed the bore with my homemade borecleaner which brought it back to factory clean. Polished the gas system and stripped the stock and hand rubbed 50 coats of oil, finally, reblued it. Worked up a load and it shoots sub MOA everytime.The Marlin 1895 45/70...sweet. 2 inch groups with handloaded 405gr. hollowpoints.A Winchester Model 67, the old single pumper that puts 'em through the same hole every time.Not to forget the Marlin 60, after polishing the feed ramp working over a few springs,sear,etc...no more jams, and oh,so tight, groups.My Remington 700 in 7mmMag. I restocked a BDL bought back in 83 with a Classic AA+ with really sweet butt stock grain and nice straight forend wood. Glass bedded, trued the reciever, lapped the lugs, polished the raceways until it felt like an ol Argentine Mauser.Had the crown recut to a recessed target variety and worked the trigger down to 8 ounces...no overly large groups with this one :)...last but not least, is my matched pair of old war horses...That Winchester Marked M1 Garand brought into National Match specs, and that old Colt 1911A1 with tightened ramps and worked over trigger...both are serious business when lobbing lead at about any range you care to plunk it out at.As for a shotgun? I'll stick to my pair of Remingtons...that ol'12Guage Wingmaster and the venerable Steel Barreled 1900 double that i messed around and had screw in chokes installed in.Even did the same for the 870 and they both swing like a well balanced Louiville Slugger in The Babes hands and knock feathers flying every pull of the trigger.

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from Jeff Potter wrote 7 years 48 weeks ago

PPPPS: The greatness of Petzal's "50" is highlighted against the "try it again" story in the March 2006 issue---the reader's survey of their idea of the best guns. What a flop! Readers all vote for the last gun they bought at Walmart. Basically we saw the most common budget or glory guns praised. The one surprising saving grace in my view was how strong the wood/blued view still was. Thank heavens! (To me only a few people can make the synthetic/stainless combo make sense and look good---those are the guys hunting so hard and shooting so much and running their stuff over with ATVs that they make normal mortal usage pale. I give them their props. For more moderate types like myself, who have the time and situation to include true beauty into the equation, gimme wood and blued!

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from Roger E. Reeves, Sr. wrote 7 years 48 weeks ago

To me the WSM's are just another tool to sell firearms. I don;t see any advantage over the regular calibers. If I had to sell all most of my firearms, these are the one's I would keep. A Remington 700 in 30-06, Remington 12 ga ll00, Marlin 336 in 30-30 and my S&W 27-2 in 357 mag. and my Remington model 552 in 22, all have nice walnut stocks like a gun should have. Who wants a piece of plastic with a water pipe for a bbl.In addition, all my rifles and slug bbl shotgun have Nikon scopes, not the top Dollar stuff we read about, but at a mid-range price, and all have done the job necessary along with Nikon Bincs and Rangerfinders.I will be hunting the Rockies this fall using the Rem 25-06 for Lopes and theRem 30-06 for Mulies and Elk. Would appreciate any feedback on type, make of ammo sugested for Lopes in WY using the 25-06 topped with a Monarch scope zeroed at 200 yds. Roger Reeves, thanks for any info.

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from Jeff Potter wrote 7 years 49 weeks ago

PPPS: Here's a link to an article I wrote up last year in response to this "50 Best"---offering, of course, my own list. My standards were: class, utility, thrift, brevity (what's the shortest list to cover them all.)http://hooknbullet.com/article.php?id=473Enjoy! JP

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from Jeff Potter wrote 7 years 49 weeks ago

PS: Like other readers, I was shocked that the Mauser and Springfield were shown with hideous plastic stocks. (Get real! No world-rep will be made on plastic! Uh, I suppose I'll be shown wrong 50 yrs from now.)PPS: Say, does anyone know how to find/read older reader-remarks on this article? My list only goes only to April 28 '06. Thanks.

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from Jeff Potter wrote 7 years 49 weeks ago

This was my favorite article in F&S since I was a kid. Bravo! What great guns! So refreshing to see, in contrast to the flash-in-the-pan guns usually featured.F&S more recently ran the results of a reader survey of "great guns." Almost embarrassing. Apparently everyone simply voted for the last gun they bought at WalMart. It highlighted how much better THIS reasoned "big picture" article was. The masses aren't always worth listening to, are they. But! I did like seeing the surprisingly strong view that wood and bluing are real. I was glad that not every shooter today wants stainless and plastic.Anyway, I lost my copy of this Feb '05 classic "50 Best" issue! Anyone have a spare? I'll pay! : ) Please email jeff (at) outyourbackdoor (dot) com.I was pleased to see so many of my own guns (or personal faves) on this list.I'm not sure the HR Topper is the single to call out. I don't know the pedigree but the Stevens-style single seems far better and far more common. The square button-release of the Topper was (is?) injurious and hideous.I'm surprised people are complaining about lack of military arms. Dave explained this at the start. Obviously, most tactical arms have been hunted with, but c'mon. Mauser and Springfield are the legit winners here.My browser is slow and my memory is bad, but it seems to me that the TC Encore should be listed. The multigun concept is just so cool and it seems the best of them. Thankfully the Contender made it. Were any other smokepoles on the list? What a wonderful movement/revival muzzleloading is. Maybe the list is limited to smokeless? If not, probably a Hawken shoulda been there. Or *maybe* a hideous inline. I admit they're a tremendous innovation.Enjoy, everyone!

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from Joseph A. French wrote 7 years 49 weeks ago

The Winchester Model 94 is one of my favorite rifle's. Now with the new leverevolution bullet, I plan on using it exclusively this deer season.

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from Harry Andreas wrote 7 years 49 weeks ago

What I can't believe is the Model 29 was listed as #5, while the gun that started the whole high velocity thing, the original S&W .357, was left out entirely.It was, after all, developed by Keith and S&W as a hunting gun.I would also have added the Dan Wesson revolver for it's removeable barrel, and the Glock as the first polymer frame handgun.I've hunted with both.

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from Dr. M. A. Kunkle wrote 7 years 49 weeks ago

Good attempt. You will never satisify all of us. I definitly would add the Colt Python ...greatest revolver ever made, the Garand, and the AK-47

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from Jeff Nelson wrote 7 years 49 weeks ago

The pre-64 Model 70 was indeed based on the M54, which was in turn based on the 1903 Springfield, NOT the 98 Mauser!Jeez, Dave!

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from Roger E. Reeves, Sr. wrote 7 years 49 weeks ago

I can think of many firearms I would like, but i don;t own the Denver mint. My choices of Rifles is the Remingotn 700 CDL in 30-06: My choice of shotguns is my ll00 Magnum 30" full choke in 12 ga. I also own a Spotsman 48, where bbl and bolt all recoil, maybe a tad less recoil in the 48. As for Handguns, I would have to state my S&W Special in 27-2 ,in caliber 357. I have taken a 6 x 6 Bull Elk, a 3 x 3 Mulie, and many whitetails with the 30-06 as well as many deed in East Va. wher they chase deer by dogs, and a shotgun with buckshot is a must. If all is well this fall, I have drawn Elk?Deer tags for Montana and a hunt for Antelopes in Douglas Wy. I will use my Rem 700 in 25-06 with l00 gr. Ballistic ti ammo. I don;t want all the firearms made, just one of each?????

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from Visitor wrote 7 years 50 weeks ago

I think the 1100 kicks MORE than the A-5. Then again, what do I know? I only put about 50 pounds of lead per month through mine.

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from O Garcia wrote 7 years 50 weeks ago

Because it is a subjective list, I really can't argue with the choices. I would have included some more London guns myself, especially on the shotgun side, but the Westley Richards double rifle was an excellent choice.I cannot disagree with those who wonder why the Ruger M77 is left out. 50 is too short a list, I suppose. But if the M77 deserves inclusion, so too, I think, does the Brno 602, or CZ550 as we know it today. After all, if one were to pick a 'cheap', strong, true magnum-size Mauser action for conversion into a Rigby-style classic custom, what better choice than the Brno or CZ?As for how much or how little the A-5 kicks, I remember from Bob Brister's articles that the Browning A-5 kicked with a "double shuffle" effect. It annoyed some shooters, but not others, but it made the Remington 1100 gas autoloader even more attractive to less experienced shooters.If I have something to complain about, it's the photos. The Mauser 98 and 1903 Springfield, while identified as originally military arms, were shown in sporter versions, but with what appear to be synthetic stocks. Not the best looking ones, in my opinion. And the double rifle was shown with a scope.For me, the Springfield's story is a most compelling one.The Springfield was supposed to be an "improved Mauser", but objectively, it really wasn't better than the German rifle. Speaking of the action alone (not the whole rifle), it has a 'split' receiver as a result of the position of its safety lug, while the Mauser doesn't, which makes the Mauser look better in my 'subjective' opinion. And as we can see today, nobody's calling for its resurrection, while the Mauser lives on and on. (Of course, in the Winchester Model 70, we have the Springfield's DNA, but even the Model 70 is gone.)In the war it was supposed to fight (WW1), the Springfield was actually outnumbered by the Enfield M1917. In WW2, when it was supposed to be obsolete, it was still in the hands of Pacific Army units plus the Marines (it wasn't until the later stages of the War that the Marines adopted the Garand). Dutifully, it swung into furious action to face the Japanese. And with Garand production not yet in full swing, and with most Garands going to Europe, new Springfields had to be made by Remington and Smith Corona to fill the arms gap in the Pacific. And it wasn't until the end of the Korean War, when marine snipers turned in their 1903-A4's that the Springfield finally went out of service. It had served longer than is commonly known, and it was only begrudgingly given up by the men whose lives it had saved.In WW2, after making more than 300,000 of them in the original 1903 version, Remington even had time to tinker with the design, to come up with a less costly A3 version, of which they produced over 1 million units. After the War, Remington opted to follow a different path in rifle design, which led to the Model 700. The 700 is one of the greatest rifles ever, but I wonder how history might have turned out if Remington decided to sporterize the Springfield instead. Perhaps it wasn't meant to be. Even when Remington was making a sporter rifle based on a military action, it was based on the British-designed 1917 Enfield. It was called the Model 30.

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from jermey wrote 7 years 50 weeks ago

Cory, youre right the m77 is a great firearm. it certainly deserves a spot on the list.

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from Cory Neumiller wrote 7 years 50 weeks ago

Still can't believe the Ruger M77 didn't make the list.

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from Dave Petzal wrote 7 years 50 weeks ago

To whoever posted the comment on the A-5.My memory of the A-5 is that it was a kicker. When the Model 1100 first came out it was a sensation because just about everyone thought it kicked far less.

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from Dave Petzal wrote 7 years 50 weeks ago

To Jermey:A lot of other people have made this point, which will be the subject of an upcoming rant.

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from jermey wrote 7 years 50 weeks ago

i dont know if anybody has heard of this gun, but does anybody know a gun called a colt 1911? it only served the U.S. in WWI, WWII, korean and vietnam wars. so yeah i guess it dosent deserve a spot in the list.That gun should be in the top ten "Best guns ever made" list, if not the top 5.

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from Visitor wrote 7 years 50 weeks ago

Hey Petzal - You really ought to shoot a gun before you criticize it. You seem to suggest the Browning A-5 kicks like a mule when you claim, "The Humpback had one glaring fault: It kicked. Its bolt came crashing back with enthusiasm."I've been shooting skeet with A-5s for 20 years or so and this is news to me. In fact, that's the exact reason I use an A-5 for target shooting: Because it DOESN'T kick. Yes, the bolt (and the entire barrel) "crash back with enthusiasm" when the gun is fired; that's exactly why the gun DOESN'T kick. The energy of recoil is used to drive the barrel and bolt backwards, and the recoil impulse is delivered over a much longer time period beginning when the gun is fired and ending when the bolt and barrel return to battery.

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from jermey wrote 7 years 50 weeks ago

something is wrong when the beretta 391 isnt mentioned in the top 15.

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from tom wrote 7 years 50 weeks ago

I wont "RANT" too much, Dont you think one of the Guns from the Sako Line should be mentioned. If I had to choose it would be the Sako Deluxe chambered in just about any caliber. I was also surprised not to see a Remington 11-48 on the list.

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from Michael Pinter wrote 7 years 50 weeks ago

You are certainly to be commended for braving a list like this. I have a few comments, which I wish to be accepted in the spirit of "I would have done it like this...", instead of "you made a mistake leaving this out...". Subjective is good.As preface, I think there is a distinction between "best" and "most important", although most of your choices I accept in both categories. I would personally exclude the H & R Topper from "best", but it may be in my "important" list for the number of rabbits it has bagged over the years.For "important" I'd put the Winchester Model 1890 (and offspring the 1906) .22 slidegun near the top of the list. It was probably the first "real gun" experienced by more of many generations than any other - thanks to carnivals and county fairs. And wasn't it what Annie Oakley used to hit everything she ever aimed at? I'd even include it in "best" for being cheap, accurate, simple and more fun than playing baseball.I couldn't compile a "50 best" list without including a Drilling type rifle, which are typically complex and of superb craftsmanship. And I couldn't leave out a real "best gun" like a Purdy or Holland & Holland double.You included a competition piece that isn't used for hunting at all. If that Perazzi is allowed, then then at least one Hammerli and/or Anshutz match gun would be mandatory in my list. And the Hammerli might even be one of the .177 cal. "smokeless" ones.Also, if competition guns are OK, the 1911 autos should be represented, as so many "race guns" are built on it. And why no other centerfire auto pistols, like the legendary Sig P210 or a Browning Hi-Power?For me a short action Steyr mannlicher might edge out the New Ultra Light Arms Model 20 because it was first in the category.While I'm glad you included the Blackhawk, I think the Super Blackhawk was more important to handgun hunting.Well, I've had my fun - and I hasten to say that I can't argue at all with most of your selections for either of my categories. It's actually pretty hard to limit yourself to 50, once you start going. What if you had to name your "five best" or "three most important" guns of all time? Now THAT would be tough. Let's see, one would have to be the Mauser, and another would probably be an 870 pump...

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from Vincent Cutino wrote 7 years 50 weeks ago

How did a revolver come before the Model 700? That is blasphemy in the gun world if I ever saw it. The Model 700 deserved a much better place than 7th and I can say that it is definately a much better gun in design and function than the M70.

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from Kevin wrote 7 years 51 weeks ago

Sadly USRAC closed the last day of March and the Model 70 is no more.

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from ReelSlick wrote 5 years 2 weeks ago

I know it probably wont suit everyone but my favorite upland game gun of ten I own is the Mossberg 505 Junior 410 pump.
I am close to seventy and the small frame fits my small frame. I have short arms and the little gun comes up just where I am looking every time. It hits hard enough for clean kills and weighs way less than my pumps, side by sides and over and under 12s and 20s. When the day is over I can still play with my Britt and don't have the bruises hurting for the next week.

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from Duck Creek Dick wrote 5 years 40 weeks ago

Re: hard recoiling A-5's.Make sure your friction pieces and rings are in their correct location. If you have them set behind the recoil spring for correct function with dove loads, then load up with 1 5/8oz. heavy field loads, you will get pounded and so will the action of that fine old shotgun. Keep the magazine tube clean and unoiled. Set the friction rings and pieces so that you get 100% reliability but nothing more. Gotta love long recoil shotguns!

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from Bubba wrote 5 years 40 weeks ago

Heath,Any caliber that will shoot at least a 100 grain bullet is sufficient for white tail deer.I have taken deer with 45 grain bullets, but I was able to select my target, at close range.Was squirrel hunting with a gent one day when we witnessed a small buck working toward us. At about 30 yards, M whispered to me, "Watch this!". The deer had no idea we were there. M slipped his Marlin auto loader .22LR over a log and tapped the deer once just behind the shoulder. The deer flinched, trotted about 30 yards and began feeding again. We watched quietly about one minute as the little slug took effect and the deer suddenly fell over and began kicking!Do I suggest the .22LR for deer?HELL no!Find a caliber that you can shoot comfortably, (noise/recoil) and practice, practice, practice!Bubba

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from Battlehound wrote 6 years 42 weeks ago

These "Best guns ever made" or "Only one gun" topics are presented with just one purpose in mind: to stimulate conversation and provoke controversy when there is not much else to write about. It works every time, because every "gun guy" (yep, I'm one, too!) has his own list. And it is always interesting and thought provoking.

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from Richard Beckinger wrote 6 years 42 weeks ago

What is considered the best sporting clays competition over-under 12 guage shotgun?

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from hexidismal wrote 6 years 48 weeks ago

Wow, what a great list .. that is if you're Zumbo. This article is worthless.

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from Dumb*ss wrote 7 years 3 weeks ago

Chris: My suggestion would be to do the following and then take it to the range again: 1) Clean it. I mean REALLY clean it. Use a good copper solvent, brush and swab until no more copper indicators on the patches. 2) Check & tighten scope mount screws. 3) Check & tighten the action screws. 4) Forget the vise. The .25-06 doesn't kick much and you shouldn't need the vise. If you're not comfortable shooting w/o the vise, have someone who knows what he's doing shoot it and see what kind of groups you get. I don't think it's the Rem. Core-Lokts - they've given me outstanding to more-than-acceptable groups in every gun in which I've ever used em, and chances are it's not the scope. Although you never know. Good luck.

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from chris wrote 7 years 3 weeks ago

HI i have a brand new remington 700 BDL 25 06 with a 4.5 to 14 power weaver scope I have ben shoting remington core locks and cant hold a very good group 3 1/2 to 4 inch group at 100 yards and i have a gun vise.what do you think is rong?

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from Breen wrote 7 years 6 weeks ago

Yeah, the Browning A-5 kicks, but mine has kicked me EVERY time I have pulled the trigger in 45 years of deer-dogging here in S.E. Virginia. That's two to five deer per season for 45 years. (You do the math) The most reliable shotgun ever made. Damn shame it is out of production. I'll hock the ol' lady's diamond first.A note on the blabber about the military and target guns... The article disclaimed them all by posting as the top 50 SPORTING arms, if I recall. The Colt M1911 is truly the most important auto pistol ever, but I cannot remember ever taking a buck with one. Couple of wild dogs and a feral cat or two, but never a deer. The only reason, as stated in the article, that the M98 and M1903 made the list was as their importance as sporters that were used for hunting.

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from Caleb wrote 7 years 6 weeks ago

You should add the Browning BT-100 stainless/blued for trapshooters. It trully is an amazing gun. I have 1 and it GREAT!

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from Petzal you said you hunt with AR15 wrote 7 years 7 weeks ago

I guess that list is subjective, indeed. So subjective as to be irrelevant.No AR15 depite thousands of men, women and children who hunt with them? HOw many people do you know who hunt with a Perazzi? Any? None?Petzal, your 1994 support of the assault weapons ban rears its head, again.Oh, and no Colt 1911? Kidding, right? Oh well, at least a bolt action shotgun made the list...(cough).

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from TNKen wrote 7 years 7 weeks ago

Where's Zumbo? No Colt AR-15 or M-16, Thompson 1921 Tommy Gun, Browning 1919, Browning Ma Deuce, Smith & Wesson Model 10, Colt 1911, S&W Model 19, M-1 Garand, M-14, AK-47. And finally, no Gatling gun or its successor in interest, the GE Minigun. Guess unless it has a bolt action, lever action, or throws shot, nothing counts here.Ken

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from Orion375HH wrote 7 years 15 weeks ago

Just trying to sneak this one in. I live overseas and was a little late getting the Sept Best Of The Best Issue. Since F&S didn't answer my e-mail concering it, I thought I'd try here. The products that were tested and recommended I'm sure are up to the job they were intended for but there is a glaring omission on all the test products. Mainly, what was the competition??? The two top binoculars are good ones but which ones did they compete against and why did the others fall short? At the very least, a list of the also rans should have been published. Plus, vendors were "asked" to submit items for testing and maybe the response was not great I don't know. I just feel like we got half the story.

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from Paul Lericos wrote 7 years 18 weeks ago

Good list but you left out one of the best target pistols, the Smith and Wesson Model 41.I have one with both the 7" sport barrel and the 5" heavy target barrel.I tick people off at the range when I outshoot there rifles with it.

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from BC Hunter wrote 7 years 25 weeks ago

You have got to be kidding, right? 50 best guns made, EVEROut of the 50 only 7 were not US manufactured or designed. The Mauser 98 was #2, the rifle design that was the cornerstone of todays bolt action rifles! #2??Perazzi, Beretta, Benelli, Merkel, Tikka and Westly Richards had one gun each.What about Holland & Holland, Jeffery, Rigby, Purdy, not to mention Lee-Enfield SMLE, Webley, and Parker-Hale?What about Krag-Jogenson, Sako, Brenneke, Mannlicher-Schoenaur, Sauer, Carcano, Shutlz & Larson, Luger, Schmidt-Ruben, Mosen-Nagant and on and on.You missed it by a kilometre.

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from Gary Livick wrote 7 years 25 weeks ago

I inherited a WWI Mauser 98 from my Uncle.I've been told that this 1898 built Mauser is worth good money.It is in very good shape.It has the strap clip located on the bottom of the rifle butt, has no pre-drilled holes for a scope, and has the detachable bayonet, so I'm pretty sure it is from the WWI era.What would a collector pay for a gun like this?

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from A Fly In The Ointment wrote 7 years 30 weeks ago

Does anyone else find it VERY strange that NO Colt firearms made this list of top 50 guns? It is obvious that this writer has a HUGE bias toward S&W..which no doubt is an excellent firearm...but NO Colts...come on...the Colt Python is clearly recognized by nearly all revolver enthusiasts as the finest handgun ever produced. For the Python not to make this list CLEARLY shows that this writer is not objective.

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from caster troy wrote 7 years 31 weeks ago

my 303 lee endfield number 1 mk 4 is one of the most kick ass acurate relieable put a smile on everytime, kick ass peace of gold walking down the trail king-shit for sure but I still need a bren gun and a colt 45.

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from Heath Blaylock wrote 7 years 43 weeks ago

I need some help I just got a TC Encore muzzeloader but im not sure what caliber barrel I will need for rifle hunting its just for whitetail deer hunting so I dont need anything to big but somthing with a punch can you guys help? thanks!

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from Travis wrote 7 years 46 weeks ago

I reckon I will jump in the fray with my carefully selected collection of firearms. First of all is my Winchester Model 100 .308. I changed the firingpin, scrubbed the bore with my homemade borecleaner which brought it back to factory clean. Polished the gas system and stripped the stock and hand rubbed 50 coats of oil, finally, reblued it. Worked up a load and it shoots sub MOA everytime.The Marlin 1895 45/70...sweet. 2 inch groups with handloaded 405gr. hollowpoints.A Winchester Model 67, the old single pumper that puts 'em through the same hole every time.Not to forget the Marlin 60, after polishing the feed ramp working over a few springs,sear,etc...no more jams, and oh,so tight, groups.My Remington 700 in 7mmMag. I restocked a BDL bought back in 83 with a Classic AA+ with really sweet butt stock grain and nice straight forend wood. Glass bedded, trued the reciever, lapped the lugs, polished the raceways until it felt like an ol Argentine Mauser.Had the crown recut to a recessed target variety and worked the trigger down to 8 ounces...no overly large groups with this one :)...last but not least, is my matched pair of old war horses...That Winchester Marked M1 Garand brought into National Match specs, and that old Colt 1911A1 with tightened ramps and worked over trigger...both are serious business when lobbing lead at about any range you care to plunk it out at.As for a shotgun? I'll stick to my pair of Remingtons...that ol'12Guage Wingmaster and the venerable Steel Barreled 1900 double that i messed around and had screw in chokes installed in.Even did the same for the 870 and they both swing like a well balanced Louiville Slugger in The Babes hands and knock feathers flying every pull of the trigger.

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from Jeff Potter wrote 7 years 48 weeks ago

PPPPS: The greatness of Petzal's "50" is highlighted against the "try it again" story in the March 2006 issue---the reader's survey of their idea of the best guns. What a flop! Readers all vote for the last gun they bought at Walmart. Basically we saw the most common budget or glory guns praised. The one surprising saving grace in my view was how strong the wood/blued view still was. Thank heavens! (To me only a few people can make the synthetic/stainless combo make sense and look good---those are the guys hunting so hard and shooting so much and running their stuff over with ATVs that they make normal mortal usage pale. I give them their props. For more moderate types like myself, who have the time and situation to include true beauty into the equation, gimme wood and blued!

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from Roger E. Reeves, Sr. wrote 7 years 48 weeks ago

To me the WSM's are just another tool to sell firearms. I don;t see any advantage over the regular calibers. If I had to sell all most of my firearms, these are the one's I would keep. A Remington 700 in 30-06, Remington 12 ga ll00, Marlin 336 in 30-30 and my S&W 27-2 in 357 mag. and my Remington model 552 in 22, all have nice walnut stocks like a gun should have. Who wants a piece of plastic with a water pipe for a bbl.In addition, all my rifles and slug bbl shotgun have Nikon scopes, not the top Dollar stuff we read about, but at a mid-range price, and all have done the job necessary along with Nikon Bincs and Rangerfinders.I will be hunting the Rockies this fall using the Rem 25-06 for Lopes and theRem 30-06 for Mulies and Elk. Would appreciate any feedback on type, make of ammo sugested for Lopes in WY using the 25-06 topped with a Monarch scope zeroed at 200 yds. Roger Reeves, thanks for any info.

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from Jeff Potter wrote 7 years 49 weeks ago

PPPS: Here's a link to an article I wrote up last year in response to this "50 Best"---offering, of course, my own list. My standards were: class, utility, thrift, brevity (what's the shortest list to cover them all.)http://hooknbullet.com/article.php?id=473Enjoy! JP

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from Jeff Potter wrote 7 years 49 weeks ago

PS: Like other readers, I was shocked that the Mauser and Springfield were shown with hideous plastic stocks. (Get real! No world-rep will be made on plastic! Uh, I suppose I'll be shown wrong 50 yrs from now.)PPS: Say, does anyone know how to find/read older reader-remarks on this article? My list only goes only to April 28 '06. Thanks.

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from Jeff Potter wrote 7 years 49 weeks ago

This was my favorite article in F&S since I was a kid. Bravo! What great guns! So refreshing to see, in contrast to the flash-in-the-pan guns usually featured.F&S more recently ran the results of a reader survey of "great guns." Almost embarrassing. Apparently everyone simply voted for the last gun they bought at WalMart. It highlighted how much better THIS reasoned "big picture" article was. The masses aren't always worth listening to, are they. But! I did like seeing the surprisingly strong view that wood and bluing are real. I was glad that not every shooter today wants stainless and plastic.Anyway, I lost my copy of this Feb '05 classic "50 Best" issue! Anyone have a spare? I'll pay! : ) Please email jeff (at) outyourbackdoor (dot) com.I was pleased to see so many of my own guns (or personal faves) on this list.I'm not sure the HR Topper is the single to call out. I don't know the pedigree but the Stevens-style single seems far better and far more common. The square button-release of the Topper was (is?) injurious and hideous.I'm surprised people are complaining about lack of military arms. Dave explained this at the start. Obviously, most tactical arms have been hunted with, but c'mon. Mauser and Springfield are the legit winners here.My browser is slow and my memory is bad, but it seems to me that the TC Encore should be listed. The multigun concept is just so cool and it seems the best of them. Thankfully the Contender made it. Were any other smokepoles on the list? What a wonderful movement/revival muzzleloading is. Maybe the list is limited to smokeless? If not, probably a Hawken shoulda been there. Or *maybe* a hideous inline. I admit they're a tremendous innovation.Enjoy, everyone!

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from Joseph A. French wrote 7 years 49 weeks ago

The Winchester Model 94 is one of my favorite rifle's. Now with the new leverevolution bullet, I plan on using it exclusively this deer season.

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from Harry Andreas wrote 7 years 49 weeks ago

What I can't believe is the Model 29 was listed as #5, while the gun that started the whole high velocity thing, the original S&W .357, was left out entirely.It was, after all, developed by Keith and S&W as a hunting gun.I would also have added the Dan Wesson revolver for it's removeable barrel, and the Glock as the first polymer frame handgun.I've hunted with both.

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from Dr. M. A. Kunkle wrote 7 years 49 weeks ago

Good attempt. You will never satisify all of us. I definitly would add the Colt Python ...greatest revolver ever made, the Garand, and the AK-47

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from Jeff Nelson wrote 7 years 49 weeks ago

The pre-64 Model 70 was indeed based on the M54, which was in turn based on the 1903 Springfield, NOT the 98 Mauser!Jeez, Dave!

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from Roger E. Reeves, Sr. wrote 7 years 49 weeks ago

I can think of many firearms I would like, but i don;t own the Denver mint. My choices of Rifles is the Remingotn 700 CDL in 30-06: My choice of shotguns is my ll00 Magnum 30" full choke in 12 ga. I also own a Spotsman 48, where bbl and bolt all recoil, maybe a tad less recoil in the 48. As for Handguns, I would have to state my S&W Special in 27-2 ,in caliber 357. I have taken a 6 x 6 Bull Elk, a 3 x 3 Mulie, and many whitetails with the 30-06 as well as many deed in East Va. wher they chase deer by dogs, and a shotgun with buckshot is a must. If all is well this fall, I have drawn Elk?Deer tags for Montana and a hunt for Antelopes in Douglas Wy. I will use my Rem 700 in 25-06 with l00 gr. Ballistic ti ammo. I don;t want all the firearms made, just one of each?????

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from Visitor wrote 7 years 50 weeks ago

I think the 1100 kicks MORE than the A-5. Then again, what do I know? I only put about 50 pounds of lead per month through mine.

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from O Garcia wrote 7 years 50 weeks ago

Because it is a subjective list, I really can't argue with the choices. I would have included some more London guns myself, especially on the shotgun side, but the Westley Richards double rifle was an excellent choice.I cannot disagree with those who wonder why the Ruger M77 is left out. 50 is too short a list, I suppose. But if the M77 deserves inclusion, so too, I think, does the Brno 602, or CZ550 as we know it today. After all, if one were to pick a 'cheap', strong, true magnum-size Mauser action for conversion into a Rigby-style classic custom, what better choice than the Brno or CZ?As for how much or how little the A-5 kicks, I remember from Bob Brister's articles that the Browning A-5 kicked with a "double shuffle" effect. It annoyed some shooters, but not others, but it made the Remington 1100 gas autoloader even more attractive to less experienced shooters.If I have something to complain about, it's the photos. The Mauser 98 and 1903 Springfield, while identified as originally military arms, were shown in sporter versions, but with what appear to be synthetic stocks. Not the best looking ones, in my opinion. And the double rifle was shown with a scope.For me, the Springfield's story is a most compelling one.The Springfield was supposed to be an "improved Mauser", but objectively, it really wasn't better than the German rifle. Speaking of the action alone (not the whole rifle), it has a 'split' receiver as a result of the position of its safety lug, while the Mauser doesn't, which makes the Mauser look better in my 'subjective' opinion. And as we can see today, nobody's calling for its resurrection, while the Mauser lives on and on. (Of course, in the Winchester Model 70, we have the Springfield's DNA, but even the Model 70 is gone.)In the war it was supposed to fight (WW1), the Springfield was actually outnumbered by the Enfield M1917. In WW2, when it was supposed to be obsolete, it was still in the hands of Pacific Army units plus the Marines (it wasn't until the later stages of the War that the Marines adopted the Garand). Dutifully, it swung into furious action to face the Japanese. And with Garand production not yet in full swing, and with most Garands going to Europe, new Springfields had to be made by Remington and Smith Corona to fill the arms gap in the Pacific. And it wasn't until the end of the Korean War, when marine snipers turned in their 1903-A4's that the Springfield finally went out of service. It had served longer than is commonly known, and it was only begrudgingly given up by the men whose lives it had saved.In WW2, after making more than 300,000 of them in the original 1903 version, Remington even had time to tinker with the design, to come up with a less costly A3 version, of which they produced over 1 million units. After the War, Remington opted to follow a different path in rifle design, which led to the Model 700. The 700 is one of the greatest rifles ever, but I wonder how history might have turned out if Remington decided to sporterize the Springfield instead. Perhaps it wasn't meant to be. Even when Remington was making a sporter rifle based on a military action, it was based on the British-designed 1917 Enfield. It was called the Model 30.

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from jermey wrote 7 years 50 weeks ago

Cory, youre right the m77 is a great firearm. it certainly deserves a spot on the list.

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from Cory Neumiller wrote 7 years 50 weeks ago

Still can't believe the Ruger M77 didn't make the list.

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from Dave Petzal wrote 7 years 50 weeks ago

To whoever posted the comment on the A-5.My memory of the A-5 is that it was a kicker. When the Model 1100 first came out it was a sensation because just about everyone thought it kicked far less.

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from Dave Petzal wrote 7 years 50 weeks ago

To Jermey:A lot of other people have made this point, which will be the subject of an upcoming rant.

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from jermey wrote 7 years 50 weeks ago

i dont know if anybody has heard of this gun, but does anybody know a gun called a colt 1911? it only served the U.S. in WWI, WWII, korean and vietnam wars. so yeah i guess it dosent deserve a spot in the list.That gun should be in the top ten "Best guns ever made" list, if not the top 5.

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from Visitor wrote 7 years 50 weeks ago

Hey Petzal - You really ought to shoot a gun before you criticize it. You seem to suggest the Browning A-5 kicks like a mule when you claim, "The Humpback had one glaring fault: It kicked. Its bolt came crashing back with enthusiasm."I've been shooting skeet with A-5s for 20 years or so and this is news to me. In fact, that's the exact reason I use an A-5 for target shooting: Because it DOESN'T kick. Yes, the bolt (and the entire barrel) "crash back with enthusiasm" when the gun is fired; that's exactly why the gun DOESN'T kick. The energy of recoil is used to drive the barrel and bolt backwards, and the recoil impulse is delivered over a much longer time period beginning when the gun is fired and ending when the bolt and barrel return to battery.

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from jermey wrote 7 years 50 weeks ago

something is wrong when the beretta 391 isnt mentioned in the top 15.

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from tom wrote 7 years 50 weeks ago

I wont "RANT" too much, Dont you think one of the Guns from the Sako Line should be mentioned. If I had to choose it would be the Sako Deluxe chambered in just about any caliber. I was also surprised not to see a Remington 11-48 on the list.

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from Michael Pinter wrote 7 years 50 weeks ago

You are certainly to be commended for braving a list like this. I have a few comments, which I wish to be accepted in the spirit of "I would have done it like this...", instead of "you made a mistake leaving this out...". Subjective is good.As preface, I think there is a distinction between "best" and "most important", although most of your choices I accept in both categories. I would personally exclude the H & R Topper from "best", but it may be in my "important" list for the number of rabbits it has bagged over the years.For "important" I'd put the Winchester Model 1890 (and offspring the 1906) .22 slidegun near the top of the list. It was probably the first "real gun" experienced by more of many generations than any other - thanks to carnivals and county fairs. And wasn't it what Annie Oakley used to hit everything she ever aimed at? I'd even include it in "best" for being cheap, accurate, simple and more fun than playing baseball.I couldn't compile a "50 best" list without including a Drilling type rifle, which are typically complex and of superb craftsmanship. And I couldn't leave out a real "best gun" like a Purdy or Holland & Holland double.You included a competition piece that isn't used for hunting at all. If that Perazzi is allowed, then then at least one Hammerli and/or Anshutz match gun would be mandatory in my list. And the Hammerli might even be one of the .177 cal. "smokeless" ones.Also, if competition guns are OK, the 1911 autos should be represented, as so many "race guns" are built on it. And why no other centerfire auto pistols, like the legendary Sig P210 or a Browning Hi-Power?For me a short action Steyr mannlicher might edge out the New Ultra Light Arms Model 20 because it was first in the category.While I'm glad you included the Blackhawk, I think the Super Blackhawk was more important to handgun hunting.Well, I've had my fun - and I hasten to say that I can't argue at all with most of your selections for either of my categories. It's actually pretty hard to limit yourself to 50, once you start going. What if you had to name your "five best" or "three most important" guns of all time? Now THAT would be tough. Let's see, one would have to be the Mauser, and another would probably be an 870 pump...

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from Vincent Cutino wrote 7 years 50 weeks ago

How did a revolver come before the Model 700? That is blasphemy in the gun world if I ever saw it. The Model 700 deserved a much better place than 7th and I can say that it is definately a much better gun in design and function than the M70.

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from Kevin wrote 7 years 51 weeks ago

Sadly USRAC closed the last day of March and the Model 70 is no more.

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from ReelSlick wrote 5 years 2 weeks ago

I know it probably wont suit everyone but my favorite upland game gun of ten I own is the Mossberg 505 Junior 410 pump.
I am close to seventy and the small frame fits my small frame. I have short arms and the little gun comes up just where I am looking every time. It hits hard enough for clean kills and weighs way less than my pumps, side by sides and over and under 12s and 20s. When the day is over I can still play with my Britt and don't have the bruises hurting for the next week.

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