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November 21, 2007

On Big Ones That Get Away

By David E. Petzal and Phil Bourjaily

John Wootters, who is retired now but was a wonderful writer and a true expert on whitetails, tried for more than 40 years to get a B and C buck, but never succeeded. (He did, however, shoot some doozers.) The big ones are simply not disposed to being shot, but I think that all of us have seen some monsters that will haunt us for all our days.

I saw one such deer last week in Maine, in my vehicle, driving back to camp along a logging road at 4:40 in the evening, which was right at the end of legal light. He had just crossed the road, and his head was already in the brush on the other side, but I got a good look at his body, and he was either:

a) an honest-to-God 300-pounder
b) an off-color moose
c) Rosie O'Donnell in a taupe-colored fur coat

I vote for a) because in that part of northern Maine, 240-pound deer are, while not common, certainly not unusual, and once in a while you're bound to find one that goes beyond 240. I thought for a second about yanking my rifle out of its case, shoving in a round, and going in after him, but it was after hours, and the warden who patrols those roads is a pitiless man who knows not the meaning of mercy.

I will always wonder what kind of a rack he had. Probably pretty good, because the headgear up there, while not pretty, gets big. On the other hand, if I had seen his horns I might have burst into tears and disgraced myself.

What the hell. That monster is still out there, and unless the snow or the coyotes get him, I may see him again next November. In the meanwhile, to tide us over until then, here is another photo of Ms. Beau Garrett.

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from Joe wrote 6 years 16 weeks ago

dude thats my mom

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from Bubba wrote 6 years 20 weeks ago

Dear Jane:Please don't misunderstand me, I don't necessarily agree with Ms. Garrett's photo in a hunting mag (blog?). It really isn't appropriate (though she is not scantily clad, in both pics) or in superb taste.Now, my question is:If the female of the species is upset because the male of the species is attracted by "looks", why does the female spend so much time and money to acquire "the look"? Ergo; make-up, expensive clothing, revealing clothing, beauty salons, etc., etc......If it upsets the female to achieve her objective, why set the goal?I am NOT saying that all females are of this mindset, but a great many are!Remember: "Woman, vanity is thy name!"Bubba

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from BA wrote 6 years 20 weeks ago

WA Mtnhunter:Yes, plan early, plan well.

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from WA Mtnhunter wrote 6 years 20 weeks ago

Jane,I would skip over the boy toy in a speedo pics, just like you can skip over these pics.....

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from Dr. Ralph wrote 6 years 20 weeks ago

Jane, I'm not going to apologize for who I am. I like guns, fast cars, sitting in the middle of nowhere in a tree before the sun comes up freezing my ass off and praying for the pitter patter of tiny feet, and looking at beautiful young women. Obviously I am not alone...

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from Jane wrote 6 years 20 weeks ago

If I were an over 60 female hunting blogger and started posting pictures of twenty-something super attractive men with their clothes open or in a small speedo, what reaction would I get?Are old people supposed to openly reveal such apparent desire for people the age of their grandchildren?

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from Tommy wrote 6 years 21 weeks ago

Thanks Doc.

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from Dr. Ralph wrote 6 years 21 weeks ago

Well I never thought I'd say it but Tommy there's hope for you yet...

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from Tommy wrote 6 years 21 weeks ago

If I had just waited for another day.That deer knew something was up, and I do not know how. They never winded me or blew or stomped or anything.He just would not get out from under my stand. And knew exactly how to walk out of that area without me putting an arrow in him.Though a lugee; I could have managed.

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from Tommy wrote 6 years 21 weeks ago

On opening day of bow last season I took a decent doe for my first deer with a bow on the first attempt. I live on 5 acres and the woods are simply hickory, red and white oaks and a few cedars. The surrounding area is all dairy farmlands so the accomplishment was as much luck as it was skill.We have lots of deer.So that afternoon I decided I would try a stand I have deep in game-land over a winding creek-bed that leads to huge bedding area. Most folks don't go that deep. I had meat aging in the fridge; so I was going to let deer walk; til I saw him. There have been rubs at this spot; which I did not notice the first time I hunted the area, for three years now, and they are on the biggest tree, and higer up on it than I have ever witnessed, they are also new each year...It is the 1st day of bow and the afternoon is a tad warm. I get on stand about 4:00. About an hour in, 2 large does and a spike stroll on in. They always walk the creek beds here, and I am 25 foot up in a holly tree. They have no idea. As I am coming to terms with the fact that I am content, that I know three guys that have never taken a deer yet by bow, and have tried for at least five or six years, and I am just watching. It was great.Then. I heard the certain break of the stick you were anticipating. It was behind and to my right. First, a tall narrow five point. Then a big, wide, light-skinned 6 pt with a brother; a nasty 7 point; bigger than all the 8, 9 or 10 points I have ever seen. He was well outside his ears and suddenly I knew I needed more room in my fridge. He was right underneath the tree. I watched for nearly 20 minutes as the deer roamed about within nearly twenty yards, but the 7 pt stayed directly underneath me. The 2 does and the spike left. The 6 pt left. And the 4 and the 7 remained. The 4 was nipping the ends of branches behind and to my left, facing away. The 7 pt looked like he was about to go that way too, which would mean, if he continued, he would be in thick stuff and gone. I stood and drew - straight down it would be. The 4 had turned around and was staring me dead in the eyes; he stopped chewing. He freaking stopped chewing. Eyes widened. I dared not to move my head for the peep sight, and foolishly tried to shoot instinctive down the arrow. I missed that deer by an inch, right over the top. I saw him duck as if in slow motion and I have not seen him since.My meds were in need Dr. Ralph.

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from Rocky Mtn Hunter wrote 6 years 21 weeks ago

I think most of old times have seen monsters that we yet dream about after 40 ys of hunting. I will never forget the giant I missed at 175 yds, shooting off hand. If I only had the shooting sticks I now use he would be hanging on my wall. Most Monster bucks don;t grow that way by being stupid. Most travel after dark and know where each and every hunter is in the woods. It's pure luck if he screws up and shows himself during shooting light. It's not the size of the animal that counts, but the enjoyment of the hunt.Last SAturaday, my Son and I after 42 yrs of hunting together, both killed bucks, one a 7 the other a 6. To me that was the highlight of my hunting years, as we never had killed deer on the same day and these two were only 25 minutes apart. At 72 yrs old, just being able to get out there and hunt period is a blessing. Surer, I'd like another monster, but my 9 pointer will do just fine.Along with my 6 x 6 Bull, l4 l/2" Lope and 6 point Mulie plus many other smaller deer.Just hope I live till Monday and able to get up and out by 5 Am and a nice deer shows, if not,will try another day, hopefully.If you hunt long enough, you will get a deer, maybe that Monster or just a regular size deer. I was as pleased with my first 2 x 2 and any deer I ever shot, that hunt ruined me for life. Now I eat, sleep guns and hunting. But, at 72, little else interest me now.

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from Michael wrote 6 years 21 weeks ago

Umm, I think you stand corrected Dave. John Wooters shot a massive whitetail that he did not have scored for the B&C book. (He could care less about being in a record book) That buck was estimated to score over 180. Go back to Maine next year. Between now and then; pray, practice voodoo, make sacrifices, consult witch doctors, etc. etc. You probably stand a better chance of winning the lottery.

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from Yohan wrote 6 years 21 weeks ago

Bubba ,.. last was from Yohan

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from Visitor wrote 6 years 21 weeks ago

Well Bubba ,..I was also given the don't WASTE ammo speach ,. which I took to heart,.. due primarily to the fact that I didnt have the money to waste ammo ,.nor did my Pap.But ya know ,.. when its big and its ugly and its down right dangeerous .Thats another thingBlazing cole red eyes locked on to you while in full charge (likley eminating from a starbuks or chucky cheeze.I say worry about the ammo bill laterOne paw swipe might be the end ya know.and lord knows what a full mouth bite would cause.,..Assuming you or me were to live through a full mouth bite and paw swipe ,.. the bouncing up and down and huffing certain to follow would surly kill most hunters,..No,.. Bubba this would not be a waste of ordinance no matter what kind of smoke pole it is. Commence fireing at will untill safty is secured ,.. YUK YUKThen call the t-rex extraction team,..they have winches that can handle that kind of a load.

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from Yohan wrote 6 years 21 weeks ago
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from Bubba wrote 6 years 21 weeks ago

I am really upset, Yohan!My pap and granpap taught me to NEVER waste ammo!The volumns of powder necessary to accelerate a "Rosie Stopper" would probably be equivalent to what they use to put the shuttle into orbit! Or is that just the .700 NE!And what if you did connect? Who ya gonna call? "Gut Busters"?!Bubba

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from Yohan wrote 6 years 21 weeks ago

Semp ,.. A Rosie Stopper ???Beautiful,..But please,.. in future if you think of it ,..tip us off a littleMaybe something like,.. extream, humor to followDam,man .. nearly blew coffee all over lap-top. No brandy in it either.Do believe a new measure of stopping power has been born,..Plus,.. now one major arms co ( which immediatly comes to mind) instead of saying "use enough gun" ,.will advertiseIts a Rosie Stopper,..As wounderfully magical a round as the 6.5 x 55 isIf you venture into the lair of the Rosie,.. a 6.5 x 55 just aint enough gun.Do believe even Mr Petzal would concur,.Jeasus H. C@rist ,.. a Rosie stopper ,.. beautiful ,.. just flipping beautiful.

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from Scott wrote 6 years 21 weeks ago

Dave, I gotta hand it to you. You know a great rack when you see it...

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from Walt Smith wrote 6 years 21 weeks ago

I'd just fix Rosie up with a big ol bait pile full of poison donuts and other junk food and let her own nasty habits do her in. Why waste the ammo?

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from semp wrote 6 years 21 weeks ago

Dr. Ralph,Sorry about the spelling. Whenthe Republic of California banned.50 guns. Barrett began offeringit's Model 99 rifle in .416 Barrett as well as .50 BMG . For those with $4000 or so this Rosie stopper can be had gift wrapped even under a Redwood tree.Happy Holidays,semp

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from Bubba wrote 6 years 21 weeks ago

Regardless of Ms. Garrett's poses, I am totally satisfied with what I've spent the last 30 years with! Besides, I'm too old to try teaching new dogs ANY tricks!Shot placement!Put a .22 Short betwixt the running lights of a Yukon bull moose and he'll drop like he's been pole-axed. Gut shoot a smallish white tail with a .460 Wby and more than likely, you'll only locate him by the gathering vultures.I gotta get out of here, I'm even boring ME now!Bubba

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from Dr. Ralph wrote 6 years 21 weeks ago

How could you confuse Rosie and a deer? A buffalo or musk ox maybe... semp are we start a new cartridge selection for blog?

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from Rusty In Missouri wrote 6 years 21 weeks ago

Dave, I enjoy reading the blog and all comments connected; thanks. I am getting ready for the family to come in for a late lunch; backstraps are setting in the special sauce, ready for the oven. We prefer deer backstraps to turkey any day. We are no strangers to large deer, give us a try sometime.Happy Thanksgiving and Good Hunting.

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from Bubba wrote 6 years 21 weeks ago

Carney, if you don't mind, can you explain why you would be concerned with the zit on her chin? Would you turn down a Win Mod 21 because of a ding in the stock!?Hey! It took me 28 years to wed! I am perfectly satisfied with my choice of nearly 30 years now! Even if I could trade her for the above displayed arm candy, why would I? The Indy 500 ain't no place for a 1950 Ford Fairlane!Bubba

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from semp wrote 6 years 21 weeks ago

Rosie .... Hmmmm ... ah, Barret .416!

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from Carney wrote 6 years 21 weeks ago

Dave,I'm with Clay Cooper concerning that girl in the pic with a zit on her chin... While she's admitedly more attractive than Rosie, my Lady is at home -- better and better with age!

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from lastearlofshaw wrote 6 years 21 weeks ago

Geez Dave: I know it wasn't c) Rosie, because you WOULD have chambered that round and fired...

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from Highlandbell wrote 6 years 21 weeks ago

Dave, Now I know who all those Viagra ads which have suddenly appeared throughout hunting magazines now appeal to. Pathetic script and photos for our young bucks to be continually exposed to, when the emphasis should be on getting them interested in our sport of hunting. They're already inundated with enough TV and computer soft-porn - please don't contribute to it.

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from retired waycar rider wrote 6 years 21 weeks ago

Nothing wrong with the Garrett HORNS---hehehehhe---look GREATTTTTTTTT on this turkey day

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from Blue Ox wrote 6 years 22 weeks ago

To all:Happy Turkey Day!! Get Stuffed!!

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from SD Bob wrote 6 years 22 weeks ago

I have 3 monster buck memories from when I lived in Michigan. Don't want to relive the tales because the counseling is still working!I met a "human" of a CO in western South Dakota just last week. I had two does tagged in the back of my truck but was hunting in a different unit when checked. I was 100% legal and all he wanted to see was to ensure I had them tagged and after the two second look over the talk changed to bucks, turkies, back packing, mountain lions and other great topics. We shot the breeze for a good 30 minutes. Every other time I've been checked, especially in Michigan, it felt like an interrogation.I think those moose out east deserve an apology for being mentioned in the same sentence with Rosie. I have the utmost respect for those big brutes but none for her.Enjoy your thanksgiving everyone!

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from YooperJack wrote 6 years 22 weeks ago

PbHeadWell Said!Everybody:HAPPY THANKSGIVING!!YooperJack

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from PbHead wrote 6 years 22 weeks ago

Most of the huge bucks I see around here show up in he newspaper next season with a proud 10 or 11 year old kid holding a gun or bow. That is a good thing.I'll just say this once regarding the ladies. We should know by now that sex lures, scents, rattling, scrapes, hormones and reading the rut are all very effective ways to hunt big bucks, which proves that SEX will get you in trouble everytime.

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from Dennis wrote 6 years 22 weeks ago

That was lacking the guts but everything else was there. He was weighted the same day he was shot.

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from Dennis wrote 6 years 22 weeks ago

DaveI have no complaints with pictures of good looking women but since this is a hunting and shooting blog maybe we ought to be looking at ones that at least have something to do with our obsession.No complaints but just a suggestion.If anybody could find a understanding game warden anywhere i would be mighty surprised.The biggest buck i have ever seen weighted out at 376 pounds (dressed) on the cattle scale. THis buck was shot the first week of october and he had been in the corn and soybean fields all summer. A decent sized ontario buck.

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from KJ wrote 6 years 22 weeks ago

Dave,I thought I read an article by Wooters several years before he retired where he, for personal reasons, did not have his bucks measured for B&C. Did he have a change of heart at some point, or am I misappropriating that thought to him? Could that have been Gary Sitton?

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from Joe from CT wrote 6 years 22 weeks ago

RE: Dave's new fascination with Beau Garrett. At least he appears to be over Charlize Theron.

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from Mark-1 wrote 6 years 22 weeks ago

I love seeing the nubial web chick, DP. Good for the circulation and to limit the fat cells growing in the brain. Unfortunately, I’m not taken seriously by young women. i.e. My daughter questioned me if men my age are still able to have sex.Family members brutally tell you the way things really areThings a game warden will never say:Oops!Well....OK. Let it go just this once.Wow. I didn't know that. Bye.I can't tell the difference between a black duck and a hen mallard in poor light, either.

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from Alamo wrote 6 years 22 weeks ago

Hi Dave;Nice to see John Wooters name mentioned. Met him one time (at a SHOT show I believe). Nice guy, great writer.I've seen a lot of photographs of Wooters with big Texas whitetails. I would never have imagined he never "made the book". I always admired his practical side. One day I will have a micro-Mauser chambered to .25 Copperhead.

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from Greg wrote 6 years 22 weeks ago

Great article, I wonder where we might see a photo? Seems like I saw one somewhere sometime?

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from big willy wrote 6 years 22 weeks ago

you obviously hunt in northern maine near haymock lake in the area of telos rd.. i deduce this information by the game warden in that area, a man of questionable lineage and no compassion.

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from Bubba wrote 6 years 22 weeks ago

Just completed reading the entire article. It was 3 days after killing the deer that the buck was actually weighed! What kind of shrinkage occurs in that period of time? Probably would have pushed that 402 Minn buck way back to No. 2 had it been weighed in a timely manner!Bubba

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from WA Mtnhunter wrote 6 years 22 weeks ago

I'd venture a guess that those old bucks were so tough that you couldn't chew the gravy...

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from WA Mtnhunter wrote 6 years 22 weeks ago

I bet Rosie O'Donnell outweighs all of them!She'll go 400 hanging weight!Always use an adequate caliber!

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from Bubba wrote 6 years 22 weeks ago

Gonna get it right or die trying. One more time!!!http://www.sportingjournal.com/main9.shtmlBubba

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from Bubba wrote 6 years 22 weeks ago

First link don't work!Bubba

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from Blue Ox wrote 6 years 22 weeks ago

Linkie no workie, Bubba.

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from Bubba wrote 6 years 22 weeks ago

Finally found it!http://www.sportingjournal.com/main9shtmlSecond only to a Minn buck that dressed 402 lbs, Hinckley's Maine whitetail field dressed 355 lbs with an estimated live weight of 488 lbs!Guess my memory has gone south also!Bubba

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from Greg wrote 6 years 22 weeks ago

I have a vague recolection of the 477 lb buck killed in Maine I think. It was every bit 9 feet long too. Dont remember what mag I saw it in? CRS moment!

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from Blue Ox wrote 6 years 22 weeks ago

Come on, Dave. Now you're just teasing us!

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from Bubba wrote 6 years 22 weeks ago

Finally found it!http://www.sprtingjournal.com/main9shtmlSecond only to a Minn buck that dressed 402 lbs, Hinckley's Maine whitetail field dressed 355 lbs with an estimated live weight of 488 lbs!Guess my memory has gone south also!Bubba

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from Bubba wrote 6 years 22 weeks ago

Remember an article many, many moons ago, (60's I think?!) about what they called, if I remember correctly, "The Hinkly(sp) Buck" that was reported to be a real whopper! Tried a web search but was unable to get any results. The article was in one of the big outdoor mags of the era, F&S, OL or SA! If anyone can locate the info, (if my memory hasn't gone south with my body and brain), seems the buck went somewhere in the 800 lb range!Bubba

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from YooperJack wrote 6 years 22 weeks ago

Dr. Ralph:I did see that ad on Fox News. Its really cute. I'll remember that long after I forget the lass pictured above.I hope that ad helps. Its funny and makes you want to watch!

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from Steve C wrote 6 years 22 weeks ago

Mr. Petzel,The choices of what you may have seen are redundant. Anyone with a pulse already knows Rosie O’Donnell is an honest-to-God 300 pound, off colored moose. Now, what she was doing in the woods of Maine is anybody’s guess.Speaking of big ones, the biggest whitetail I’m aware of (dead or alive) was a purported 477lb buck shot in Pennsylvania at the turn of the century. The photo was published in the editorial columns of either Outdoor Life or Field & Stream in the late 60s/early 70s with the caption “477lb Whitetail?”. No one could apparently confirm the weight but, based on the size of the deer hanging by the hunter in the picture, it was estimated to weight at least 350 lbs by the editors. Assuming the hunter wasn’t 4 ft tall, the deer appears to have been 9ft+ as it hung.You obviously have better resources than the rest of us so perhaps someone at F&S can track this down.

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from Clay Cooper wrote 6 years 22 weeks ago

Spotted thrasher on a far ridge Sunday night! This Friday I’m going after him!

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from Black Rifle Addict wrote 6 years 22 weeks ago

The lady is very pretty...ahhh to be young again!Biggest whitetail I saw taken was in ND weight from a farm feed scale at a little over 255lbs..a 13 point I remember it being?Anyway, that was one big deer! I saw a number of large mulies there, but most locals hunted whitetail.

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from Clay Cooper wrote 6 years 22 weeks ago

Dr RalphDon't need optometrists at all, 20 years of Military and driving an 18 wheeler over the road for 11 years I’ve learned a lot. Besides, my true love is at home!!! Since we have known each other we never had a fight or argument. Pastor Mark C. that married us told me, he cannot believe that an Italian blooded Woman married to an Irish blooded Man can get along under the same roof as we do. Don’t even think of pissing off the wife and she knows there is a couple of buttons that she knows do not even think of pushing on me. She knows when I get grouchy it's time to go eat!!!I find that Women fall into two categories like Champagne and the other Wine. Champagne tickles and you get a thrill and the frill is short lived, but a fine wine? O’YES! Now that my friend is what God has made!On a serious note, laying all jokes aside,I hope and pray this young Lady stops and keeps orientating herself for who she really is and focus on what tomorrow will truly be. To realize and to keep focused to take care of herself that there are those that have and will take advantage of her just like a Wal-Mart Gift card that they will trash her when all is used up, account ZERO….GAME OVER!!!!Young people like her, I do worry about them

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from alabamahunter wrote 6 years 22 weeks ago

There was one deer that walked out into the greenfeild I was hunting on the last day of season with a half hour left in legal light. To make a long story short, he stood out there for 20 minutes and although it was the rut he never turned to face the does 15 yards from my stand. I did get a good look at his rack though. He was a complete bruiser of an 8 point. He had as wide a rack as I've ever seen. He probably would have gone 130" on the B&C scale. That may not be huge everywhere else, but down here it is a giant.

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from Bubba wrote 6 years 22 weeks ago

DaveYa gotta cut it out! My wife thinks I'm visiting some sort of porn sight! Either stop or issue a male only password! With all us old geezers, you're gonna cause a massive coronary in somewhere.In my little corner of the world here in the Great Southwest, somebody checked in one at 193 lbs. Gutted, according to the log book.1) The stations scales only go to 160.2) Most of the folks in this area "don't" (!) field dress, opting to go directly from kill to check station to processer.I killed one that field dressed 140 lbs and thought I had a brontasaurus on the ground!Saw a mulie on the edge of the Southern Ute land near Chimney Rock! Absolutely amazing! The fact that he was ON Indian land and about 600/700 yds away....I ran down a canyou to within about 200 yds of where he was standing. Gasping for air, I finally located him again, going deeper into the reservation at about 400 yards!Bubba

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from Visitor wrote 6 years 22 weeks ago

Couple of years ago, ran across an old friend that was in the Navy and of course they had a thing about Hawaiian Girl tattoos. I remember when he was in his late 20’s it looked good then but now it looks like Don Knotts in a grass skirt!

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from Visitor wrote 6 years 22 weeks ago

I wonder what she will look like when she turns 40?

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from Dr. Ralph wrote 6 years 22 weeks ago

Average looks? Clay you need an optometrist... Has anyone seen the Huckabee ad with Chuck Norris? Here it is...

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from YooperJack wrote 6 years 22 weeks ago

Dave:While she's very pretty, I'll probably forget her as soon as this blog goes down. What's remarkable is that I came back from hunting Sunday night. During the first four days of the season, I remembered every massive buck that I saw and the almost exact location where I saw that buck since I started hunting there in 1979! Also, during the drive home, I thought about all of the massive bucks that I've seen while driving to and from work across the U.P. I can also remember them when I drive again in that location.I think also that Dan is on to something when he said that those big bucks are nocturnal. I'm convinced that there are deer that only move at night and spend the rest of the day holed up. That's probably why they get so big. Our camp is the only one in the area where the hunters actually go out in the woods and roam. Everyone else goes to a baited blind. I believe that this allows those nocturnal bucks to live a lot longer because no one happens to jump them other than us and if we jump them, no one is there to take advantage of that.

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from Dan wrote 6 years 22 weeks ago

Dave,I hunt Maine also, the area around The Forks, along Rt. 201. By the time I left this year (we didn't get a deer)the board at the general store had 2 bucks that dressed over 200lbs. One was 202, and the other was 220. I believe it was last year that they had tagged a dressed deer at 274. And I know of those monsters that haunt hunter's dreams. They always seem to show themselves just after legal light, or of course as you're driving down the road on the way out of camp. Maybe one of these years I'll connect with a true Maine giant, until then, I'll just keep enjoying the hunt.

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from Clay Cooper wrote 6 years 22 weeks ago

I find it interesting what a little Mabaline and proper attire can do to the average looks.The Lady that I love is at home!

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from Dr. Ralph wrote 6 years 22 weeks ago

I hunted a big one for a few years but never really saw him... Huge rubs and tracks and he stayed in the same general area. One time I took my son there when he was about 9 years old and I sat him down in the monster's den. I heard the deer blow a few hours later right where my boy was so I went to investigate. Did you see anything? Yeah, he said. I didn't know there were cows back here. Cows? There aren't any cows... He says well I saw something but it was way too big to be a deer.

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from Joe wrote 6 years 16 weeks ago

dude thats my mom

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from Bubba wrote 6 years 20 weeks ago

Dear Jane:Please don't misunderstand me, I don't necessarily agree with Ms. Garrett's photo in a hunting mag (blog?). It really isn't appropriate (though she is not scantily clad, in both pics) or in superb taste.Now, my question is:If the female of the species is upset because the male of the species is attracted by "looks", why does the female spend so much time and money to acquire "the look"? Ergo; make-up, expensive clothing, revealing clothing, beauty salons, etc., etc......If it upsets the female to achieve her objective, why set the goal?I am NOT saying that all females are of this mindset, but a great many are!Remember: "Woman, vanity is thy name!"Bubba

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from BA wrote 6 years 20 weeks ago

WA Mtnhunter:Yes, plan early, plan well.

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from WA Mtnhunter wrote 6 years 20 weeks ago

Jane,I would skip over the boy toy in a speedo pics, just like you can skip over these pics.....

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from Dr. Ralph wrote 6 years 20 weeks ago

Jane, I'm not going to apologize for who I am. I like guns, fast cars, sitting in the middle of nowhere in a tree before the sun comes up freezing my ass off and praying for the pitter patter of tiny feet, and looking at beautiful young women. Obviously I am not alone...

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from Jane wrote 6 years 20 weeks ago

If I were an over 60 female hunting blogger and started posting pictures of twenty-something super attractive men with their clothes open or in a small speedo, what reaction would I get?Are old people supposed to openly reveal such apparent desire for people the age of their grandchildren?

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from Tommy wrote 6 years 21 weeks ago

Thanks Doc.

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from Dr. Ralph wrote 6 years 21 weeks ago

Well I never thought I'd say it but Tommy there's hope for you yet...

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from Tommy wrote 6 years 21 weeks ago

If I had just waited for another day.That deer knew something was up, and I do not know how. They never winded me or blew or stomped or anything.He just would not get out from under my stand. And knew exactly how to walk out of that area without me putting an arrow in him.Though a lugee; I could have managed.

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from Tommy wrote 6 years 21 weeks ago

On opening day of bow last season I took a decent doe for my first deer with a bow on the first attempt. I live on 5 acres and the woods are simply hickory, red and white oaks and a few cedars. The surrounding area is all dairy farmlands so the accomplishment was as much luck as it was skill.We have lots of deer.So that afternoon I decided I would try a stand I have deep in game-land over a winding creek-bed that leads to huge bedding area. Most folks don't go that deep. I had meat aging in the fridge; so I was going to let deer walk; til I saw him. There have been rubs at this spot; which I did not notice the first time I hunted the area, for three years now, and they are on the biggest tree, and higer up on it than I have ever witnessed, they are also new each year...It is the 1st day of bow and the afternoon is a tad warm. I get on stand about 4:00. About an hour in, 2 large does and a spike stroll on in. They always walk the creek beds here, and I am 25 foot up in a holly tree. They have no idea. As I am coming to terms with the fact that I am content, that I know three guys that have never taken a deer yet by bow, and have tried for at least five or six years, and I am just watching. It was great.Then. I heard the certain break of the stick you were anticipating. It was behind and to my right. First, a tall narrow five point. Then a big, wide, light-skinned 6 pt with a brother; a nasty 7 point; bigger than all the 8, 9 or 10 points I have ever seen. He was well outside his ears and suddenly I knew I needed more room in my fridge. He was right underneath the tree. I watched for nearly 20 minutes as the deer roamed about within nearly twenty yards, but the 7 pt stayed directly underneath me. The 2 does and the spike left. The 6 pt left. And the 4 and the 7 remained. The 4 was nipping the ends of branches behind and to my left, facing away. The 7 pt looked like he was about to go that way too, which would mean, if he continued, he would be in thick stuff and gone. I stood and drew - straight down it would be. The 4 had turned around and was staring me dead in the eyes; he stopped chewing. He freaking stopped chewing. Eyes widened. I dared not to move my head for the peep sight, and foolishly tried to shoot instinctive down the arrow. I missed that deer by an inch, right over the top. I saw him duck as if in slow motion and I have not seen him since.My meds were in need Dr. Ralph.

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from Rocky Mtn Hunter wrote 6 years 21 weeks ago

I think most of old times have seen monsters that we yet dream about after 40 ys of hunting. I will never forget the giant I missed at 175 yds, shooting off hand. If I only had the shooting sticks I now use he would be hanging on my wall. Most Monster bucks don;t grow that way by being stupid. Most travel after dark and know where each and every hunter is in the woods. It's pure luck if he screws up and shows himself during shooting light. It's not the size of the animal that counts, but the enjoyment of the hunt.Last SAturaday, my Son and I after 42 yrs of hunting together, both killed bucks, one a 7 the other a 6. To me that was the highlight of my hunting years, as we never had killed deer on the same day and these two were only 25 minutes apart. At 72 yrs old, just being able to get out there and hunt period is a blessing. Surer, I'd like another monster, but my 9 pointer will do just fine.Along with my 6 x 6 Bull, l4 l/2" Lope and 6 point Mulie plus many other smaller deer.Just hope I live till Monday and able to get up and out by 5 Am and a nice deer shows, if not,will try another day, hopefully.If you hunt long enough, you will get a deer, maybe that Monster or just a regular size deer. I was as pleased with my first 2 x 2 and any deer I ever shot, that hunt ruined me for life. Now I eat, sleep guns and hunting. But, at 72, little else interest me now.

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from Michael wrote 6 years 21 weeks ago

Umm, I think you stand corrected Dave. John Wooters shot a massive whitetail that he did not have scored for the B&C book. (He could care less about being in a record book) That buck was estimated to score over 180. Go back to Maine next year. Between now and then; pray, practice voodoo, make sacrifices, consult witch doctors, etc. etc. You probably stand a better chance of winning the lottery.

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from Yohan wrote 6 years 21 weeks ago

Bubba ,.. last was from Yohan

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from Visitor wrote 6 years 21 weeks ago

Well Bubba ,..I was also given the don't WASTE ammo speach ,. which I took to heart,.. due primarily to the fact that I didnt have the money to waste ammo ,.nor did my Pap.But ya know ,.. when its big and its ugly and its down right dangeerous .Thats another thingBlazing cole red eyes locked on to you while in full charge (likley eminating from a starbuks or chucky cheeze.I say worry about the ammo bill laterOne paw swipe might be the end ya know.and lord knows what a full mouth bite would cause.,..Assuming you or me were to live through a full mouth bite and paw swipe ,.. the bouncing up and down and huffing certain to follow would surly kill most hunters,..No,.. Bubba this would not be a waste of ordinance no matter what kind of smoke pole it is. Commence fireing at will untill safty is secured ,.. YUK YUKThen call the t-rex extraction team,..they have winches that can handle that kind of a load.

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from Yohan wrote 6 years 21 weeks ago
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from Bubba wrote 6 years 21 weeks ago

I am really upset, Yohan!My pap and granpap taught me to NEVER waste ammo!The volumns of powder necessary to accelerate a "Rosie Stopper" would probably be equivalent to what they use to put the shuttle into orbit! Or is that just the .700 NE!And what if you did connect? Who ya gonna call? "Gut Busters"?!Bubba

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from Yohan wrote 6 years 21 weeks ago

Semp ,.. A Rosie Stopper ???Beautiful,..But please,.. in future if you think of it ,..tip us off a littleMaybe something like,.. extream, humor to followDam,man .. nearly blew coffee all over lap-top. No brandy in it either.Do believe a new measure of stopping power has been born,..Plus,.. now one major arms co ( which immediatly comes to mind) instead of saying "use enough gun" ,.will advertiseIts a Rosie Stopper,..As wounderfully magical a round as the 6.5 x 55 isIf you venture into the lair of the Rosie,.. a 6.5 x 55 just aint enough gun.Do believe even Mr Petzal would concur,.Jeasus H. C@rist ,.. a Rosie stopper ,.. beautiful ,.. just flipping beautiful.

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from Scott wrote 6 years 21 weeks ago

Dave, I gotta hand it to you. You know a great rack when you see it...

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from Walt Smith wrote 6 years 21 weeks ago

I'd just fix Rosie up with a big ol bait pile full of poison donuts and other junk food and let her own nasty habits do her in. Why waste the ammo?

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from semp wrote 6 years 21 weeks ago

Dr. Ralph,Sorry about the spelling. Whenthe Republic of California banned.50 guns. Barrett began offeringit's Model 99 rifle in .416 Barrett as well as .50 BMG . For those with $4000 or so this Rosie stopper can be had gift wrapped even under a Redwood tree.Happy Holidays,semp

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from Bubba wrote 6 years 21 weeks ago

Regardless of Ms. Garrett's poses, I am totally satisfied with what I've spent the last 30 years with! Besides, I'm too old to try teaching new dogs ANY tricks!Shot placement!Put a .22 Short betwixt the running lights of a Yukon bull moose and he'll drop like he's been pole-axed. Gut shoot a smallish white tail with a .460 Wby and more than likely, you'll only locate him by the gathering vultures.I gotta get out of here, I'm even boring ME now!Bubba

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from Dr. Ralph wrote 6 years 21 weeks ago

How could you confuse Rosie and a deer? A buffalo or musk ox maybe... semp are we start a new cartridge selection for blog?

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from Rusty In Missouri wrote 6 years 21 weeks ago

Dave, I enjoy reading the blog and all comments connected; thanks. I am getting ready for the family to come in for a late lunch; backstraps are setting in the special sauce, ready for the oven. We prefer deer backstraps to turkey any day. We are no strangers to large deer, give us a try sometime.Happy Thanksgiving and Good Hunting.

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from Bubba wrote 6 years 21 weeks ago

Carney, if you don't mind, can you explain why you would be concerned with the zit on her chin? Would you turn down a Win Mod 21 because of a ding in the stock!?Hey! It took me 28 years to wed! I am perfectly satisfied with my choice of nearly 30 years now! Even if I could trade her for the above displayed arm candy, why would I? The Indy 500 ain't no place for a 1950 Ford Fairlane!Bubba

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from semp wrote 6 years 21 weeks ago

Rosie .... Hmmmm ... ah, Barret .416!

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from Carney wrote 6 years 21 weeks ago

Dave,I'm with Clay Cooper concerning that girl in the pic with a zit on her chin... While she's admitedly more attractive than Rosie, my Lady is at home -- better and better with age!

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from lastearlofshaw wrote 6 years 21 weeks ago

Geez Dave: I know it wasn't c) Rosie, because you WOULD have chambered that round and fired...

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from Highlandbell wrote 6 years 21 weeks ago

Dave, Now I know who all those Viagra ads which have suddenly appeared throughout hunting magazines now appeal to. Pathetic script and photos for our young bucks to be continually exposed to, when the emphasis should be on getting them interested in our sport of hunting. They're already inundated with enough TV and computer soft-porn - please don't contribute to it.

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from retired waycar rider wrote 6 years 21 weeks ago

Nothing wrong with the Garrett HORNS---hehehehhe---look GREATTTTTTTTT on this turkey day

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from Blue Ox wrote 6 years 22 weeks ago

To all:Happy Turkey Day!! Get Stuffed!!

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from SD Bob wrote 6 years 22 weeks ago

I have 3 monster buck memories from when I lived in Michigan. Don't want to relive the tales because the counseling is still working!I met a "human" of a CO in western South Dakota just last week. I had two does tagged in the back of my truck but was hunting in a different unit when checked. I was 100% legal and all he wanted to see was to ensure I had them tagged and after the two second look over the talk changed to bucks, turkies, back packing, mountain lions and other great topics. We shot the breeze for a good 30 minutes. Every other time I've been checked, especially in Michigan, it felt like an interrogation.I think those moose out east deserve an apology for being mentioned in the same sentence with Rosie. I have the utmost respect for those big brutes but none for her.Enjoy your thanksgiving everyone!

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from YooperJack wrote 6 years 22 weeks ago

PbHeadWell Said!Everybody:HAPPY THANKSGIVING!!YooperJack

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from PbHead wrote 6 years 22 weeks ago

Most of the huge bucks I see around here show up in he newspaper next season with a proud 10 or 11 year old kid holding a gun or bow. That is a good thing.I'll just say this once regarding the ladies. We should know by now that sex lures, scents, rattling, scrapes, hormones and reading the rut are all very effective ways to hunt big bucks, which proves that SEX will get you in trouble everytime.

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from Dennis wrote 6 years 22 weeks ago

That was lacking the guts but everything else was there. He was weighted the same day he was shot.

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from Dennis wrote 6 years 22 weeks ago

DaveI have no complaints with pictures of good looking women but since this is a hunting and shooting blog maybe we ought to be looking at ones that at least have something to do with our obsession.No complaints but just a suggestion.If anybody could find a understanding game warden anywhere i would be mighty surprised.The biggest buck i have ever seen weighted out at 376 pounds (dressed) on the cattle scale. THis buck was shot the first week of october and he had been in the corn and soybean fields all summer. A decent sized ontario buck.

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from KJ wrote 6 years 22 weeks ago

Dave,I thought I read an article by Wooters several years before he retired where he, for personal reasons, did not have his bucks measured for B&C. Did he have a change of heart at some point, or am I misappropriating that thought to him? Could that have been Gary Sitton?

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from Joe from CT wrote 6 years 22 weeks ago

RE: Dave's new fascination with Beau Garrett. At least he appears to be over Charlize Theron.

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from Mark-1 wrote 6 years 22 weeks ago

I love seeing the nubial web chick, DP. Good for the circulation and to limit the fat cells growing in the brain. Unfortunately, I’m not taken seriously by young women. i.e. My daughter questioned me if men my age are still able to have sex.Family members brutally tell you the way things really areThings a game warden will never say:Oops!Well....OK. Let it go just this once.Wow. I didn't know that. Bye.I can't tell the difference between a black duck and a hen mallard in poor light, either.

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from Alamo wrote 6 years 22 weeks ago

Hi Dave;Nice to see John Wooters name mentioned. Met him one time (at a SHOT show I believe). Nice guy, great writer.I've seen a lot of photographs of Wooters with big Texas whitetails. I would never have imagined he never "made the book". I always admired his practical side. One day I will have a micro-Mauser chambered to .25 Copperhead.

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from Greg wrote 6 years 22 weeks ago

Great article, I wonder where we might see a photo? Seems like I saw one somewhere sometime?

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from big willy wrote 6 years 22 weeks ago

you obviously hunt in northern maine near haymock lake in the area of telos rd.. i deduce this information by the game warden in that area, a man of questionable lineage and no compassion.

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from Bubba wrote 6 years 22 weeks ago

Just completed reading the entire article. It was 3 days after killing the deer that the buck was actually weighed! What kind of shrinkage occurs in that period of time? Probably would have pushed that 402 Minn buck way back to No. 2 had it been weighed in a timely manner!Bubba

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from WA Mtnhunter wrote 6 years 22 weeks ago

I'd venture a guess that those old bucks were so tough that you couldn't chew the gravy...

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from WA Mtnhunter wrote 6 years 22 weeks ago

I bet Rosie O'Donnell outweighs all of them!She'll go 400 hanging weight!Always use an adequate caliber!

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from Bubba wrote 6 years 22 weeks ago

Gonna get it right or die trying. One more time!!!http://www.sportingjournal.com/main9.shtmlBubba

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from Bubba wrote 6 years 22 weeks ago

First link don't work!Bubba

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from Blue Ox wrote 6 years 22 weeks ago

Linkie no workie, Bubba.

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from Bubba wrote 6 years 22 weeks ago

Finally found it!http://www.sportingjournal.com/main9shtmlSecond only to a Minn buck that dressed 402 lbs, Hinckley's Maine whitetail field dressed 355 lbs with an estimated live weight of 488 lbs!Guess my memory has gone south also!Bubba

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from Greg wrote 6 years 22 weeks ago

I have a vague recolection of the 477 lb buck killed in Maine I think. It was every bit 9 feet long too. Dont remember what mag I saw it in? CRS moment!

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from Blue Ox wrote 6 years 22 weeks ago

Come on, Dave. Now you're just teasing us!

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from Bubba wrote 6 years 22 weeks ago

Finally found it!http://www.sprtingjournal.com/main9shtmlSecond only to a Minn buck that dressed 402 lbs, Hinckley's Maine whitetail field dressed 355 lbs with an estimated live weight of 488 lbs!Guess my memory has gone south also!Bubba

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from Bubba wrote 6 years 22 weeks ago

Remember an article many, many moons ago, (60's I think?!) about what they called, if I remember correctly, "The Hinkly(sp) Buck" that was reported to be a real whopper! Tried a web search but was unable to get any results. The article was in one of the big outdoor mags of the era, F&S, OL or SA! If anyone can locate the info, (if my memory hasn't gone south with my body and brain), seems the buck went somewhere in the 800 lb range!Bubba

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from YooperJack wrote 6 years 22 weeks ago

Dr. Ralph:I did see that ad on Fox News. Its really cute. I'll remember that long after I forget the lass pictured above.I hope that ad helps. Its funny and makes you want to watch!

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from Steve C wrote 6 years 22 weeks ago

Mr. Petzel,The choices of what you may have seen are redundant. Anyone with a pulse already knows Rosie O’Donnell is an honest-to-God 300 pound, off colored moose. Now, what she was doing in the woods of Maine is anybody’s guess.Speaking of big ones, the biggest whitetail I’m aware of (dead or alive) was a purported 477lb buck shot in Pennsylvania at the turn of the century. The photo was published in the editorial columns of either Outdoor Life or Field & Stream in the late 60s/early 70s with the caption “477lb Whitetail?”. No one could apparently confirm the weight but, based on the size of the deer hanging by the hunter in the picture, it was estimated to weight at least 350 lbs by the editors. Assuming the hunter wasn’t 4 ft tall, the deer appears to have been 9ft+ as it hung.You obviously have better resources than the rest of us so perhaps someone at F&S can track this down.

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from Clay Cooper wrote 6 years 22 weeks ago

Spotted thrasher on a far ridge Sunday night! This Friday I’m going after him!

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from Black Rifle Addict wrote 6 years 22 weeks ago

The lady is very pretty...ahhh to be young again!Biggest whitetail I saw taken was in ND weight from a farm feed scale at a little over 255lbs..a 13 point I remember it being?Anyway, that was one big deer! I saw a number of large mulies there, but most locals hunted whitetail.

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from Clay Cooper wrote 6 years 22 weeks ago

Dr RalphDon't need optometrists at all, 20 years of Military and driving an 18 wheeler over the road for 11 years I’ve learned a lot. Besides, my true love is at home!!! Since we have known each other we never had a fight or argument. Pastor Mark C. that married us told me, he cannot believe that an Italian blooded Woman married to an Irish blooded Man can get along under the same roof as we do. Don’t even think of pissing off the wife and she knows there is a couple of buttons that she knows do not even think of pushing on me. She knows when I get grouchy it's time to go eat!!!I find that Women fall into two categories like Champagne and the other Wine. Champagne tickles and you get a thrill and the frill is short lived, but a fine wine? O’YES! Now that my friend is what God has made!On a serious note, laying all jokes aside,I hope and pray this young Lady stops and keeps orientating herself for who she really is and focus on what tomorrow will truly be. To realize and to keep focused to take care of herself that there are those that have and will take advantage of her just like a Wal-Mart Gift card that they will trash her when all is used up, account ZERO….GAME OVER!!!!Young people like her, I do worry about them

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from alabamahunter wrote 6 years 22 weeks ago

There was one deer that walked out into the greenfeild I was hunting on the last day of season with a half hour left in legal light. To make a long story short, he stood out there for 20 minutes and although it was the rut he never turned to face the does 15 yards from my stand. I did get a good look at his rack though. He was a complete bruiser of an 8 point. He had as wide a rack as I've ever seen. He probably would have gone 130" on the B&C scale. That may not be huge everywhere else, but down here it is a giant.

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from Bubba wrote 6 years 22 weeks ago

DaveYa gotta cut it out! My wife thinks I'm visiting some sort of porn sight! Either stop or issue a male only password! With all us old geezers, you're gonna cause a massive coronary in somewhere.In my little corner of the world here in the Great Southwest, somebody checked in one at 193 lbs. Gutted, according to the log book.1) The stations scales only go to 160.2) Most of the folks in this area "don't" (!) field dress, opting to go directly from kill to check station to processer.I killed one that field dressed 140 lbs and thought I had a brontasaurus on the ground!Saw a mulie on the edge of the Southern Ute land near Chimney Rock! Absolutely amazing! The fact that he was ON Indian land and about 600/700 yds away....I ran down a canyou to within about 200 yds of where he was standing. Gasping for air, I finally located him again, going deeper into the reservation at about 400 yards!Bubba

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from Visitor wrote 6 years 22 weeks ago

Couple of years ago, ran across an old friend that was in the Navy and of course they had a thing about Hawaiian Girl tattoos. I remember when he was in his late 20’s it looked good then but now it looks like Don Knotts in a grass skirt!

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from Visitor wrote 6 years 22 weeks ago

I wonder what she will look like when she turns 40?

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from Dr. Ralph wrote 6 years 22 weeks ago

Average looks? Clay you need an optometrist... Has anyone seen the Huckabee ad with Chuck Norris? Here it is...

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from YooperJack wrote 6 years 22 weeks ago

Dave:While she's very pretty, I'll probably forget her as soon as this blog goes down. What's remarkable is that I came back from hunting Sunday night. During the first four days of the season, I remembered every massive buck that I saw and the almost exact location where I saw that buck since I started hunting there in 1979! Also, during the drive home, I thought about all of the massive bucks that I've seen while driving to and from work across the U.P. I can also remember them when I drive again in that location.I think also that Dan is on to something when he said that those big bucks are nocturnal. I'm convinced that there are deer that only move at night and spend the rest of the day holed up. That's probably why they get so big. Our camp is the only one in the area where the hunters actually go out in the woods and roam. Everyone else goes to a baited blind. I believe that this allows those nocturnal bucks to live a lot longer because no one happens to jump them other than us and if we jump them, no one is there to take advantage of that.

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from Dan wrote 6 years 22 weeks ago

Dave,I hunt Maine also, the area around The Forks, along Rt. 201. By the time I left this year (we didn't get a deer)the board at the general store had 2 bucks that dressed over 200lbs. One was 202, and the other was 220. I believe it was last year that they had tagged a dressed deer at 274. And I know of those monsters that haunt hunter's dreams. They always seem to show themselves just after legal light, or of course as you're driving down the road on the way out of camp. Maybe one of these years I'll connect with a true Maine giant, until then, I'll just keep enjoying the hunt.

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from Clay Cooper wrote 6 years 22 weeks ago

I find it interesting what a little Mabaline and proper attire can do to the average looks.The Lady that I love is at home!

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from Dr. Ralph wrote 6 years 22 weeks ago

I hunted a big one for a few years but never really saw him... Huge rubs and tracks and he stayed in the same general area. One time I took my son there when he was about 9 years old and I sat him down in the monster's den. I heard the deer blow a few hours later right where my boy was so I went to investigate. Did you see anything? Yeah, he said. I didn't know there were cows back here. Cows? There aren't any cows... He says well I saw something but it was way too big to be a deer.

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