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August 24, 2007

Lessons From The African Shoot, Part II

By David E. Petzal and Phil Bourjaily

He shot a lousy score. So did everyone else who fired quickly. Every guy who shot well shot with a steady rhythm, and used up almost all the time they had.

Gunsite has a saying: "A good fast shot is better than a slow perfect shot, because you won't have time for the perfect shot."

Carve this in your forearm. And I'd like to add a corollary principle:
"A good shot develops a sense of how much time he has--and uses that time."

If you've done enough hunting you'll be able to look at an animal and sense whether you have to shoot instantly, or take a couple of seconds to figure things out. The great custom rifle builder Jerry Fisher (who has done a ton of hunting) says it comes after you take 300 head of big game. That seems as good a number as any.

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from fornetti wrote 5 years 33 weeks ago

I do not believe this

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from Blue Ox wrote 6 years 33 weeks ago

Was that THE Charlize Theron? Yowza!!

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from Dr. Ralph wrote 6 years 33 weeks ago

Yohan, against my better judgement I'm actually beginning to like you. Keep up the great posts....

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from Clay Cooper wrote 6 years 33 weeks ago

Ricardo RodríguezI stand corrected Sir!

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from Yohan wrote 6 years 33 weeks ago

Dan,.. this is late but its a trick you mighht try before you buy ( invest ) in another site system.My (humble) possible solution,.. to the peep site v/s scope v/s red dot ,.. all of which are good systems is this.Get a round tapered jewlers file ,.. last one I bought was 8 bucks maybe 10 now.or 12 ?Open the rear site,.. yup file it open,. (carefully) take your time ,.. until enough light gets let in,. to allow "your" quick target aquizition,.. and the shot, Not the neighbor or your brother ,. enough light for YOU to get quick target acquisition.This allows for use of two eyes durring target aquizition and a quicker more calclatd shot once youy begin to bring the gun to bare.You can learn use it that way. Or not.,.. either way.If that dosent quite do it ,. (fatory beads are big),.change front site to smaller bead,and polish it so its bright and easy to poick up,. or as someone else said maybe fiber optic front bead.I have done this on 4 rifles over the years,.. the latest of which is 45-70 Marlin Model 1895.With not only zero loss of accuacy,.. but actual improvementHaving been a bolt action man my entire life this gun (1895 45-70) has become my tool of choice for the short work , 100 yds +/-.Which ss most of us know covers 98% of shots in the thick stuff.or aywhere else for that mater other than mountains,. plains or praire.I use 300 gr hollow pt winchesters at about 1880 publised. Have handloaded heavier but no need for deer.Last deer I shot with it acted like it got hit with a bowling ball at about 1500 fps,..But the point here is that once I determined i should shoot had just about no time,. to hoot ,.. But the shot was clean and kill was immediate,.. because of the sites and the rest as they say is history.An old gunsmith showed me this trick a long time ago. Think I was 15 ,. he knew i didnt have the money for new sights so he told me to try it. If I screwed it up he would put sights on my old 98 and let me pay then off.That was a real favor to me it ws the start of my confidence in my self.I did it ,.. and made an old mauser more deer hunting friendly.He later said he got the idea sighting a high priced Mauser express rifle ,.. think he said 458 mag. That he was tuning for a local dentist. .His opinion was,.."express (elephant) sights would make pretty damn good sights for deer huning in the woods".Open up the rear sight on a marlin or remmingtom or what ever,. Tweek the site picture to suit you.And you have inexpensive durable very effective express type system.It sure works for me.Since he has now gone to his presumed reward I salute him every time I step into that magical place we call "the deer woods", on any day really.But especially on cloudy low light November days.Best regardsYohanPs. the old gunsmith was my father

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from Ricardo Rodríguez wrote 6 years 34 weeks ago

To Clay Cooper,Thanks a lot for the info on the sights.An ultra match M1A, mmmh. Didn´t you know its mean to eat in front of the hungry?Bye.

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from Clay Cooper wrote 6 years 34 weeks ago

David Petzals next stop, AFRICA!I believe Barnes Bullet folks should send David with his 338 RUM all expenses and mounting paid on a Cape Buffalo hunt and report back to us, just how the Barnes bullet really worked.What say you Barnes?

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from Clay Cooper wrote 6 years 34 weeks ago

So much for buying a Model 798!

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from Clay Cooper wrote 6 years 34 weeks ago

Hey you Peep Sight Shooters!Dan & Ricardo RodríguezHere is a good start to find what you need.Champion's ChoiceCall 1-800-345-7179 for sales questionshttp://www.champchoice.com/I’ll probably be using my Ultra Match M1A 1000-yard rifle open deer season.And yes its open sights.Eat your heart OUT!Ricardo, I have a 03-A3 my Father sporterized for me when I was 12. It’s been 40 years now and it shoots like a house on fire. I made a suggestion along time ago to Remington to bring back the old 98 and they came out with the model 988. They really screwed it up with a 22-inch barrel. Stupid people, what are they thinking of. If someone wanted a shorter barrel, they can chop it, but you can’t add to it. So much for buying a Model 988!

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from Ricardo Rodríguez wrote 6 years 34 weeks ago

Now that you are talking about peep sights, would somebody tell me if there is an adjustable peep sight to be used in a Springfield 1903-A3 instead of the original peep sight? Thanks a lot for any info.

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from Zermoid wrote 6 years 34 weeks ago

I prefer the ghost ring sites too. The old eyes can't line up opens too well anymore but can center a post in a circle! Carry a Marlin 30-30 lever for deer here in PA woods, If I'm gonna hunt fields I use a scoped 6.5 Swede for longer reach, but prefer the old lever gun, just feels better than the ole cannon that Swede is!

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from laztep .e divad wrote 6 years 34 weeks ago

dave e petzal needs to quit writing for field and stream. he thinks hes owns everybody. hes a high maintance old man.

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from ChevJim wrote 6 years 34 weeks ago

I get a big kick out of gunwriters talking about the use of slings and shooting sticks and range finders. When you hunt in the dense woods of the Southern United States, you will usually have about three seconds to identify your target, pick out an aiming point, and shoot. Forget about getting into a tight sling, or setting up shooting sticks, or checking the distance to the target with a rangefinder, or deciding which mil dot on your reticle you will use. Western hunters have all the time in the world compared to Eastern hunters. I won't take anything away from Western hunters who have to guess range, dope wind, and compute holdover--those are real shooting skills. But so is being able to shoot quickly and accurately at a fleeting target. The last deer I shot was identified, acquired in the scope, and shot within a few seconds. The rifle was a .257 Weatherby magnum. Hunting in the brush doesn't mean you should be using "brush-busters," however. As a fellow Southern hunter who hunted with a .243 said, "If you want to shoot brush, get a brush rifle. But if you want to down a deer that won't get up and run into another hunter's sights, then get a rifle that shoots a light, fast bullet!"

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from HGHunter wrote 6 years 34 weeks ago

That is something I have always preached: Rhythmic shooting. I was always told I shot to fast, funny how I have been Top Gun in my department for 2 years out of the 2 years that the competition has been held.

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from Blue Ox wrote 6 years 34 weeks ago

Good luck Dan!

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from Blue Ox wrote 6 years 34 weeks ago

Garretts....I gotcha. Good stuff. Thanks much.

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from Dan wrote 6 years 34 weeks ago

Thanks for the info guys, I'm actually from CT, but spend a lot of time in Maine. I try to skirt the choppings when I can, but man, the deer sure love it in there, fotunately there is enough skidder trails to see a little distance. The Mod 7600 isnt the only gun I hunt with up there, in fact, my last 2 deer were take with my Savage Mod 110. I also have the traditional .30-30 Win 94, and a Marlin Mod 336 in 35 rem. I just fell in love with the pump rifle the 1st time I shot one. Hey, there are a lot of worst things to worry about than which gun im going to take this year. :)Thanks again,Dan

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from Gerald Keller wrote 6 years 34 weeks ago

Dan,New England Custom Guns makes an excellent fully adjustable peep sight(Brownell's #661-000-035AA) that fits onto Weaver bases.This gives you the option of quickly mounting a pre-zeroed scope if you find yourself hunting in a more open area.I agree with using a fiber optic front under the low light conditions you may encounter.I have the N.E.C.G. peep on my 416 and a 2.5-8 scope in quick release rings.Great set up and it works for me.

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from Stan G wrote 6 years 34 weeks ago

Blue OXActually it's Garretts and they pack a punch. I'm heading to Maine tomorrow for the opening of black bear season on Monday. I'm using the Marlin in 45-70. I have some of the Garretts but prefer the Marlin leverevolution 325 gr.Use a burris handgun scope with quick detach rings so I can use the ghost ring sight if I need it.

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from Clay Cooper wrote 6 years 34 weeks ago

DanCCOOOLLL!Go getem SHOOTER!

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from wolf-1 wrote 6 years 34 weeks ago

peep sites been using them for everything since my nam vacation ,williams makes good ones ,period

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from Chris wrote 6 years 34 weeks ago

Blue OxAsking a Mainer to give up his Remington is like asking him to give up his green plaid wool. It’s just wrong man!

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from Blue Ox wrote 6 years 34 weeks ago

That's 'fumbled'. Sorry. That tends to happen after a fifth of Jack.

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from Blue Ox wrote 6 years 34 weeks ago

Is it Garret or Jarret? My bad if I funbled it!

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from Blue Ox wrote 6 years 34 weeks ago

Hey Dan,Do yourself a favor and ditch the remington. Go grab a lever action Marlin in 45-70 and use the iron sights. If you can handle the recoil, pick up some Jarret loads for it. You won't be disappointed.

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from SD Bob wrote 6 years 34 weeks ago

Wow Dave! Your doing a pretty damn good job at illiciting a response lately!!! I'd have to say my big game count must be around 70 and the first half of them were taken with a bow in much greater of a time frame than the remaining half taken with a rifle/shotgun and I directly associate the skills of bowhunting teaching me the neccesary skills to read the body language of whitetails which can transferred to reading the body language of most animals. Now that I live in South Dakota, and there are tons more choices and opportunity of big game animals than my previous state of Michigan, when my rifle comes up, an animal goes down. It didn't take 300 head! Sorry! But if it takes that much killing to become an expert at reading an animals body language, that's a statement coming from an elitist who is trying to over emphasize his/her own abilities or lack there of. I'm no expert but I can call BS when I see it! If it takes 300 head, your pathetic!

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from Charlize Theron wrote 6 years 34 weeks ago

Shoot one gun. Shoot it a lot. Shoot it from different positions. Know it intimately, and let it become an extension of you. Be the gun.Zen.

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from Chris wrote 6 years 34 weeks ago

DanI “still hunt” in the mountain laurel of the Appalachians almost exclusively, so I think I know what you are trying to accomplish with the peep sight. I tried one for a while but gave up on them; I prefer the resolving qualities of a GOOD low power scope. If you insist on the peep out of tradition, (you want to be like Larry Benoit?) a Williams peep is nice. The Williams has a removable aperture that will give you the option of a small peep for precision when there is plenty of light and a large “ghost ring” for general use in hunting situations. I also recommend getting a fiber optic front sight to use with it if you go that route.Maine is beautiful, I would like to come up there and try my hand (or foot) at snow tracking some day. Not to mention the 300lb bucks!

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from Brian wrote 6 years 34 weeks ago

Shotgun a bunch of Canada geese over a few years. I've clocked them "just cruisin' around" at better than 40mph/70kph. The geese will let you know what your shooting speed has to be to put them next to the plum sauce.

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from Mike Diehl wrote 6 years 34 weeks ago

Dan -I think I hunted that pile o' tops back when the cutting hadn't grown over. Let me quess: Blue Spruce. Lots of it.

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from Visitor wrote 6 years 34 weeks ago

Watched a hunter on the Outdoor Channel, tracks across Africa. Shot a nice Cape buffalo. Had to use shooting sticks. I prefer a 1 ¼ military sling NRA style!

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from Dan wrote 6 years 34 weeks ago

Clay,I'm old school, no red-dot sights for me..... either traditional scops or iron sights. I used peep sights while shooting competition .22. in high school. I'm comfortable with them, and believe they afford you quicker target aquisition than traditional iron sights. Your eye naturally centers the post in the rear aperature.Thanks for your opinion though, always helpfulDan

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from Visitor wrote 6 years 34 weeks ago

Long-range shots on Jackrabbits work the best! You get both sitting or running shots. This is how I learned to shoot at long ranges. I’ve worn out 3 barrels shooting these critters, I recon I got my 300 in, so what do you think Dave?

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from Clay Cooper wrote 6 years 34 weeks ago

Jerry Fisher is right. Busting rocks the size of your fist at varing ranges from 200 to 500-600 works to!

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from Visitor wrote 6 years 34 weeks ago

Steve Cart as it is about science!I seriously believe Steve that you have the makings of a extreme shooter!

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from Clay Cooper wrote 6 years 34 weeks ago

DanA peep sight for your environment is the worst sight to use due to very low light conditions, not to mention other variables. I strongly recommend that you use a red dot scope. It’s none magnified, works fantastic in all light conditions and is exceptionally accurate. You can vary the red dot intensity accordingly to the light conditions. I have one on my Wife’s muzzle loader and this California Girl never shot a gun in her life blew the hell out of my 44 oz coke at 50 yards. So much for my drink!

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from Dan wrote 6 years 34 weeks ago

Mr. Petzal,It's off topic, but can you, or any other bloggers reccomend a good peep sight. I want to replace the express sights on my rem Mod. 7600 with them. I rifle hunt in mostly thick, hellish overgrown choppings in Maine, where most shots will be 50 yards and in. I've been looking at XS ghost rings, any other brands out there? I'm hoping to do it myself, but am willing to take it to a gunsmith.Thanks,Dan

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from Steve C wrote 6 years 34 weeks ago

I’ve always believe that there’s a significant portion of “talent” that is intuitive. That is, you can seldom really improve upon it but then neither will much of it ever be lost. In my opinion, knowing when to pull the trigger (as with hunting or shooting in general) is as much about art as it is about science.

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from PbHead wrote 6 years 34 weeks ago

Does the target have something to do with Republicans? Anyway I think this post is really about timing. It is developed with experience. Some may need 300, some may need three, some thirty. It also depends upon individual ability. Keep practicing to develop your individual ability and how to cope with limitations.

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from Mark wrote 6 years 34 weeks ago

I ain't in the club, either.Alas! I was born in the wrong era and I shoot too poorly to be a pro hunter, Folks.

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from Phillip wrote 6 years 34 weeks ago

I'd like to think I got it figured out without ever shooting a head of big game... I learned wingshooting quail and pheasants.It doesn't look like you've got much time, but if you just take long enough to get a good breath, the bird and your gun will come together.It's no different when I switch to a rifle for furry critters. A running rabbit or squirrel (or deer or hog, although I seldom shoot big game on the move any more) is only gonna go so far, so fast.You're not necessarily gonna hit 'em right in the eye each time, and you shouldn't try to... but if you just get your breath before you shoot, you'll probably smack them more times than not.

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from Dr. Ralph wrote 6 years 34 weeks ago

300 head? That's ten big game animals a year for thirty years... I'd bet a lot of full time poachers wish they'd killed half that many. Now we know how Dave got in the club. He has to pull the elephant target!

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from smf wrote 6 years 34 weeks ago

I wonder how fast Bell would have fired at them with his little rifle ?I don't thing I'll ever have the need or desire to shoot something that big and painful, Shotgun slugs seem brutal enough to me.

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from Chris wrote 6 years 34 weeks ago

After 300 head of big game? I’m hopeless then. Does catch and release count? You know, like when you look at an animal through the scope and pass it up. I would suppose that it does not because in order to have killed 300 head, three thousand head where probably passed up. I’d like to see that guy’s trophy room.

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from fornetti wrote 5 years 33 weeks ago

I do not believe this

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from Blue Ox wrote 6 years 33 weeks ago

Was that THE Charlize Theron? Yowza!!

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from Dr. Ralph wrote 6 years 33 weeks ago

Yohan, against my better judgement I'm actually beginning to like you. Keep up the great posts....

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from Clay Cooper wrote 6 years 33 weeks ago

Ricardo RodríguezI stand corrected Sir!

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from Yohan wrote 6 years 33 weeks ago

Dan,.. this is late but its a trick you mighht try before you buy ( invest ) in another site system.My (humble) possible solution,.. to the peep site v/s scope v/s red dot ,.. all of which are good systems is this.Get a round tapered jewlers file ,.. last one I bought was 8 bucks maybe 10 now.or 12 ?Open the rear site,.. yup file it open,. (carefully) take your time ,.. until enough light gets let in,. to allow "your" quick target aquizition,.. and the shot, Not the neighbor or your brother ,. enough light for YOU to get quick target acquisition.This allows for use of two eyes durring target aquizition and a quicker more calclatd shot once youy begin to bring the gun to bare.You can learn use it that way. Or not.,.. either way.If that dosent quite do it ,. (fatory beads are big),.change front site to smaller bead,and polish it so its bright and easy to poick up,. or as someone else said maybe fiber optic front bead.I have done this on 4 rifles over the years,.. the latest of which is 45-70 Marlin Model 1895.With not only zero loss of accuacy,.. but actual improvementHaving been a bolt action man my entire life this gun (1895 45-70) has become my tool of choice for the short work , 100 yds +/-.Which ss most of us know covers 98% of shots in the thick stuff.or aywhere else for that mater other than mountains,. plains or praire.I use 300 gr hollow pt winchesters at about 1880 publised. Have handloaded heavier but no need for deer.Last deer I shot with it acted like it got hit with a bowling ball at about 1500 fps,..But the point here is that once I determined i should shoot had just about no time,. to hoot ,.. But the shot was clean and kill was immediate,.. because of the sites and the rest as they say is history.An old gunsmith showed me this trick a long time ago. Think I was 15 ,. he knew i didnt have the money for new sights so he told me to try it. If I screwed it up he would put sights on my old 98 and let me pay then off.That was a real favor to me it ws the start of my confidence in my self.I did it ,.. and made an old mauser more deer hunting friendly.He later said he got the idea sighting a high priced Mauser express rifle ,.. think he said 458 mag. That he was tuning for a local dentist. .His opinion was,.."express (elephant) sights would make pretty damn good sights for deer huning in the woods".Open up the rear sight on a marlin or remmingtom or what ever,. Tweek the site picture to suit you.And you have inexpensive durable very effective express type system.It sure works for me.Since he has now gone to his presumed reward I salute him every time I step into that magical place we call "the deer woods", on any day really.But especially on cloudy low light November days.Best regardsYohanPs. the old gunsmith was my father

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from Ricardo Rodríguez wrote 6 years 34 weeks ago

To Clay Cooper,Thanks a lot for the info on the sights.An ultra match M1A, mmmh. Didn´t you know its mean to eat in front of the hungry?Bye.

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from Clay Cooper wrote 6 years 34 weeks ago

David Petzals next stop, AFRICA!I believe Barnes Bullet folks should send David with his 338 RUM all expenses and mounting paid on a Cape Buffalo hunt and report back to us, just how the Barnes bullet really worked.What say you Barnes?

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from Clay Cooper wrote 6 years 34 weeks ago

So much for buying a Model 798!

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from Clay Cooper wrote 6 years 34 weeks ago

Hey you Peep Sight Shooters!Dan & Ricardo RodríguezHere is a good start to find what you need.Champion's ChoiceCall 1-800-345-7179 for sales questionshttp://www.champchoice.com/I’ll probably be using my Ultra Match M1A 1000-yard rifle open deer season.And yes its open sights.Eat your heart OUT!Ricardo, I have a 03-A3 my Father sporterized for me when I was 12. It’s been 40 years now and it shoots like a house on fire. I made a suggestion along time ago to Remington to bring back the old 98 and they came out with the model 988. They really screwed it up with a 22-inch barrel. Stupid people, what are they thinking of. If someone wanted a shorter barrel, they can chop it, but you can’t add to it. So much for buying a Model 988!

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from Ricardo Rodríguez wrote 6 years 34 weeks ago

Now that you are talking about peep sights, would somebody tell me if there is an adjustable peep sight to be used in a Springfield 1903-A3 instead of the original peep sight? Thanks a lot for any info.

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from Zermoid wrote 6 years 34 weeks ago

I prefer the ghost ring sites too. The old eyes can't line up opens too well anymore but can center a post in a circle! Carry a Marlin 30-30 lever for deer here in PA woods, If I'm gonna hunt fields I use a scoped 6.5 Swede for longer reach, but prefer the old lever gun, just feels better than the ole cannon that Swede is!

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from laztep .e divad wrote 6 years 34 weeks ago

dave e petzal needs to quit writing for field and stream. he thinks hes owns everybody. hes a high maintance old man.

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from ChevJim wrote 6 years 34 weeks ago

I get a big kick out of gunwriters talking about the use of slings and shooting sticks and range finders. When you hunt in the dense woods of the Southern United States, you will usually have about three seconds to identify your target, pick out an aiming point, and shoot. Forget about getting into a tight sling, or setting up shooting sticks, or checking the distance to the target with a rangefinder, or deciding which mil dot on your reticle you will use. Western hunters have all the time in the world compared to Eastern hunters. I won't take anything away from Western hunters who have to guess range, dope wind, and compute holdover--those are real shooting skills. But so is being able to shoot quickly and accurately at a fleeting target. The last deer I shot was identified, acquired in the scope, and shot within a few seconds. The rifle was a .257 Weatherby magnum. Hunting in the brush doesn't mean you should be using "brush-busters," however. As a fellow Southern hunter who hunted with a .243 said, "If you want to shoot brush, get a brush rifle. But if you want to down a deer that won't get up and run into another hunter's sights, then get a rifle that shoots a light, fast bullet!"

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from HGHunter wrote 6 years 34 weeks ago

That is something I have always preached: Rhythmic shooting. I was always told I shot to fast, funny how I have been Top Gun in my department for 2 years out of the 2 years that the competition has been held.

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from Blue Ox wrote 6 years 34 weeks ago

Good luck Dan!

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from Blue Ox wrote 6 years 34 weeks ago

Garretts....I gotcha. Good stuff. Thanks much.

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from Dan wrote 6 years 34 weeks ago

Thanks for the info guys, I'm actually from CT, but spend a lot of time in Maine. I try to skirt the choppings when I can, but man, the deer sure love it in there, fotunately there is enough skidder trails to see a little distance. The Mod 7600 isnt the only gun I hunt with up there, in fact, my last 2 deer were take with my Savage Mod 110. I also have the traditional .30-30 Win 94, and a Marlin Mod 336 in 35 rem. I just fell in love with the pump rifle the 1st time I shot one. Hey, there are a lot of worst things to worry about than which gun im going to take this year. :)Thanks again,Dan

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from Gerald Keller wrote 6 years 34 weeks ago

Dan,New England Custom Guns makes an excellent fully adjustable peep sight(Brownell's #661-000-035AA) that fits onto Weaver bases.This gives you the option of quickly mounting a pre-zeroed scope if you find yourself hunting in a more open area.I agree with using a fiber optic front under the low light conditions you may encounter.I have the N.E.C.G. peep on my 416 and a 2.5-8 scope in quick release rings.Great set up and it works for me.

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from Stan G wrote 6 years 34 weeks ago

Blue OXActually it's Garretts and they pack a punch. I'm heading to Maine tomorrow for the opening of black bear season on Monday. I'm using the Marlin in 45-70. I have some of the Garretts but prefer the Marlin leverevolution 325 gr.Use a burris handgun scope with quick detach rings so I can use the ghost ring sight if I need it.

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from Clay Cooper wrote 6 years 34 weeks ago

DanCCOOOLLL!Go getem SHOOTER!

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from wolf-1 wrote 6 years 34 weeks ago

peep sites been using them for everything since my nam vacation ,williams makes good ones ,period

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from Chris wrote 6 years 34 weeks ago

Blue OxAsking a Mainer to give up his Remington is like asking him to give up his green plaid wool. It’s just wrong man!

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from Blue Ox wrote 6 years 34 weeks ago

That's 'fumbled'. Sorry. That tends to happen after a fifth of Jack.

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from Blue Ox wrote 6 years 34 weeks ago

Is it Garret or Jarret? My bad if I funbled it!

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from Blue Ox wrote 6 years 34 weeks ago

Hey Dan,Do yourself a favor and ditch the remington. Go grab a lever action Marlin in 45-70 and use the iron sights. If you can handle the recoil, pick up some Jarret loads for it. You won't be disappointed.

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from SD Bob wrote 6 years 34 weeks ago

Wow Dave! Your doing a pretty damn good job at illiciting a response lately!!! I'd have to say my big game count must be around 70 and the first half of them were taken with a bow in much greater of a time frame than the remaining half taken with a rifle/shotgun and I directly associate the skills of bowhunting teaching me the neccesary skills to read the body language of whitetails which can transferred to reading the body language of most animals. Now that I live in South Dakota, and there are tons more choices and opportunity of big game animals than my previous state of Michigan, when my rifle comes up, an animal goes down. It didn't take 300 head! Sorry! But if it takes that much killing to become an expert at reading an animals body language, that's a statement coming from an elitist who is trying to over emphasize his/her own abilities or lack there of. I'm no expert but I can call BS when I see it! If it takes 300 head, your pathetic!

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from Charlize Theron wrote 6 years 34 weeks ago

Shoot one gun. Shoot it a lot. Shoot it from different positions. Know it intimately, and let it become an extension of you. Be the gun.Zen.

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from Chris wrote 6 years 34 weeks ago

DanI “still hunt” in the mountain laurel of the Appalachians almost exclusively, so I think I know what you are trying to accomplish with the peep sight. I tried one for a while but gave up on them; I prefer the resolving qualities of a GOOD low power scope. If you insist on the peep out of tradition, (you want to be like Larry Benoit?) a Williams peep is nice. The Williams has a removable aperture that will give you the option of a small peep for precision when there is plenty of light and a large “ghost ring” for general use in hunting situations. I also recommend getting a fiber optic front sight to use with it if you go that route.Maine is beautiful, I would like to come up there and try my hand (or foot) at snow tracking some day. Not to mention the 300lb bucks!

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from Brian wrote 6 years 34 weeks ago

Shotgun a bunch of Canada geese over a few years. I've clocked them "just cruisin' around" at better than 40mph/70kph. The geese will let you know what your shooting speed has to be to put them next to the plum sauce.

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from Mike Diehl wrote 6 years 34 weeks ago

Dan -I think I hunted that pile o' tops back when the cutting hadn't grown over. Let me quess: Blue Spruce. Lots of it.

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from Visitor wrote 6 years 34 weeks ago

Watched a hunter on the Outdoor Channel, tracks across Africa. Shot a nice Cape buffalo. Had to use shooting sticks. I prefer a 1 ¼ military sling NRA style!

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from Dan wrote 6 years 34 weeks ago

Clay,I'm old school, no red-dot sights for me..... either traditional scops or iron sights. I used peep sights while shooting competition .22. in high school. I'm comfortable with them, and believe they afford you quicker target aquisition than traditional iron sights. Your eye naturally centers the post in the rear aperature.Thanks for your opinion though, always helpfulDan

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from Visitor wrote 6 years 34 weeks ago

Long-range shots on Jackrabbits work the best! You get both sitting or running shots. This is how I learned to shoot at long ranges. I’ve worn out 3 barrels shooting these critters, I recon I got my 300 in, so what do you think Dave?

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from Clay Cooper wrote 6 years 34 weeks ago

Jerry Fisher is right. Busting rocks the size of your fist at varing ranges from 200 to 500-600 works to!

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from Visitor wrote 6 years 34 weeks ago

Steve Cart as it is about science!I seriously believe Steve that you have the makings of a extreme shooter!

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from Clay Cooper wrote 6 years 34 weeks ago

DanA peep sight for your environment is the worst sight to use due to very low light conditions, not to mention other variables. I strongly recommend that you use a red dot scope. It’s none magnified, works fantastic in all light conditions and is exceptionally accurate. You can vary the red dot intensity accordingly to the light conditions. I have one on my Wife’s muzzle loader and this California Girl never shot a gun in her life blew the hell out of my 44 oz coke at 50 yards. So much for my drink!

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from Dan wrote 6 years 34 weeks ago

Mr. Petzal,It's off topic, but can you, or any other bloggers reccomend a good peep sight. I want to replace the express sights on my rem Mod. 7600 with them. I rifle hunt in mostly thick, hellish overgrown choppings in Maine, where most shots will be 50 yards and in. I've been looking at XS ghost rings, any other brands out there? I'm hoping to do it myself, but am willing to take it to a gunsmith.Thanks,Dan

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from Steve C wrote 6 years 34 weeks ago

I’ve always believe that there’s a significant portion of “talent” that is intuitive. That is, you can seldom really improve upon it but then neither will much of it ever be lost. In my opinion, knowing when to pull the trigger (as with hunting or shooting in general) is as much about art as it is about science.

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from PbHead wrote 6 years 34 weeks ago

Does the target have something to do with Republicans? Anyway I think this post is really about timing. It is developed with experience. Some may need 300, some may need three, some thirty. It also depends upon individual ability. Keep practicing to develop your individual ability and how to cope with limitations.

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from Mark wrote 6 years 34 weeks ago

I ain't in the club, either.Alas! I was born in the wrong era and I shoot too poorly to be a pro hunter, Folks.

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from Phillip wrote 6 years 34 weeks ago

I'd like to think I got it figured out without ever shooting a head of big game... I learned wingshooting quail and pheasants.It doesn't look like you've got much time, but if you just take long enough to get a good breath, the bird and your gun will come together.It's no different when I switch to a rifle for furry critters. A running rabbit or squirrel (or deer or hog, although I seldom shoot big game on the move any more) is only gonna go so far, so fast.You're not necessarily gonna hit 'em right in the eye each time, and you shouldn't try to... but if you just get your breath before you shoot, you'll probably smack them more times than not.

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from Dr. Ralph wrote 6 years 34 weeks ago

300 head? That's ten big game animals a year for thirty years... I'd bet a lot of full time poachers wish they'd killed half that many. Now we know how Dave got in the club. He has to pull the elephant target!

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from smf wrote 6 years 34 weeks ago

I wonder how fast Bell would have fired at them with his little rifle ?I don't thing I'll ever have the need or desire to shoot something that big and painful, Shotgun slugs seem brutal enough to me.

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from Chris wrote 6 years 34 weeks ago

After 300 head of big game? I’m hopeless then. Does catch and release count? You know, like when you look at an animal through the scope and pass it up. I would suppose that it does not because in order to have killed 300 head, three thousand head where probably passed up. I’d like to see that guy’s trophy room.

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