You don't need a cannon to put a man down plus RMH is like 74 years old and under 100 pounds. .44-40's have been used in the Boer War and the wild west with much success just stay away from those "cowboy loads".

Dr. Ralph: Good to see you in print again. I am a gun nut, WHY???? never will I know. But as weboth agree, $$$$ in firearms now is a better bet than the DOW or CD's. I;ve bought/sold/traded hundreds of firearms and never lost a dime on any of them.Some I had to spend a few $ to repair, but then was in a position to make a profit. As for the 44-40, I always wanted a large caliber western type firearm ( I wanted to be a Cowboy), but I did not want the average run of the mill 45's, so selected the 44-40 so would have a handgun that few have, especially in my local area. It;s a Uberti imported by Stoeger from Italy, case harden, Walnut grips and 5 l/2 " bbl. Just the right size for me and my smaller hands.As for Deer in the South, my Son and I did well with bucks on our farm. I gota dandy 9 and my Son got a monster 8, plus he also got a spotted deer. We plant food plots, put our mineral licks and try to entice teh deer to hang around our property. The 8 we killed, we had seen only 4 prior to season, but knew there was a couple huge deer in the area. I killed the 9 pointer on opening day with my Inline B/P at l70 yds. My first deer with a B/P gun was a 4"Oak tree, so stopped that business by adding a scope zeroed at l50 yds.Now can see deer rather than trees. I do think the Western states are blowing wind about the many animals available on BLM land. They may be areas wher the average guy can;t get to that holds some nice animals,but as a rule the raange I hunted this past year sucked. When you don't even see w-tails, something is amiss. That eing teh Big Cugar my wife saw at l0-15 yds and the many wolf tracts, not countin the Coyotes,.The western states ae bambozolling the much game to sell us NR licenses, as the game depts operate on our Money not the locals as my tags were 653.00 and the same for the locals was 38.00. But, they got the Elk, Lopes, Mulies and we don;t. Just hope that the herd of Elk in KY wandes down into N.C. while I'm able to hunt, or I either draw a tag for KY, but the odds are about lK to l to draw. THe application fee is l4.00 so not to break the bank to apply. i also will apply in PA. Either of these stats are within 350 miles of me and I want have to fly,can load up my camper and go. Ok, hopefully they can cull the Blue tongue and hae a healthy herd, but I understand it's headed eastward. Take care, Shoot-um-straight and often: the old Gun Slinger. PS; Do you know what the cost of a Elk Hunt in New Mexico cost?Also, does SE C0 have many Mulies and Lopes? My Son want to go.Chat with you again. Hey, buy that new Pistol orwhat-ever it is. One last thin, many yrs ago I bought a new H&H 410 sawed the bbl to l6" and cut the stock off at the grip,sanded, sawed to make a kinda pistol grip. That was back when We roade horses a lotin the Blue Ridge Mtns and was a god snake gun.I addeda shot sling to hang on the saddle horn to carry the gun. Yep, still got it after about 40 yrs.

Wish I had my money in guns about now RMH... and you know for a carry gun the .44-40 is probably perfect. G. Gordon Liddy who I listened to every day for 10 years always preferred a very large slow moving projectile for self defense, and he was an FBI agent for a very long time. Seems fast projectiles blow right through an enemy while the very large slower projectiles transfer all their energy and pick people up and throw them down. In his opinion a .44 Special was better than a .44 Magnum. Shoot 'em straight and often! Last weekend for me, our season closes Monday. No bucks just a handful of does this year. It could be worse as the deer population took a severe blow by the blue tongue or whatever they're calling it now disease...

Since the caliber designation is up for grabs, it's good that we can hang a different hat on cartridges of the same bore size.How else would the inexperienced buy the correct .308 or .224 ammo? Or better yet, answer the spousal question: "Don't you already have a .308 something or other?"LOL

Ross Seyfried usually stopped at .475 Linebaugh, and no rifle calibers, because as "eyeball" stated, Ross had a certain criteria for "handgun." Even Ross advises that the .45 Colt should be enough as a day-to-day gun, with the .475 and .500 Linebaugh cartridges reserved only for the biggest game (including, if the hunter is so determined, elephant). Here he advises that before parting with his money buying the Linebaughs, the hunter should sit in a dark corner for maybe a week and really be honest with himself, because these guns are not only expensive custom jobs, but also really kick and can spook a shooter forever.As for caliber designation, whether in English or metric, I think Mr. Petzal has already made it clear that the whole system is UNCLEAR. Even the Germans, source of most of the world's precision, had dual 7.92s, one .318" and another .323", the latter being the hotter load. But what is common with most cartridges, IMO, is that the designation is usually smaller than groove diameter, which may or may not be the bore diameter. Thus, we say .30 or .300 for .308, the British say .303 instead of .311. We have .270 for .277, etc.Of course we have the .38 Special (.357), which ruins things, and we have various .224s that are designated .220 (Swift),.222 (Rem), .223 (Rem), .224 (Wby) and .225 (Win).So Mr. Petzal is still right. The convention or system for designating cartridge calibers is totally messed up.

Alright. You know you want it. You know you can't afford it. But imagine holding one of these monsters in your hand... it would be like being 5 years old again and shooting a .357 Mag. It would take you back to a place in time where everything was too big and the world was a wonderful exciting place.Besides the video is a 6 lb. T/C in .600 Nitro Express, not the Pfeifer Zeliska 13 lb. monstrousity. I'm sure it would only blow you half way out of the picture...

That's not a HANDGUN- it's a funny looking CARBINE!!

They are called RIFLE calibers for a reason............I think the reason the only other people in that video were at the far end of the range was that no one else was stupid enough to be anywhere near that thing when it went off!44 Mag is enough handgun for me.Those folks are NUTS!At what point do people wise up and stop going Bigger?I can picture some fool making a rifle to chamber a 40mm round someday soon, someone, somewhere, will be both bored and stupid enough to try it.

Dave,What next? How about a derringer chambered for a 105mm howitzer round.

Yoop, and Ed J,Thanks for help.Yoop, when you started talking chemistry you lost me.Ed J., your talking groove vs. land (bore),?It still doesn't make sense. Does SAAMI make the rules now and tell how things should be measured or can I build a gun and measure at the lands and state this is the diameter and you build one and measure at the grooves and say something else?. To me .308 equals 7.82 not 7.62.But I'm a hard headed German, everything should be measured the same so everyone can be on the same page.Thanks again

I remember the name of the 11mm pinfire revolver, they were called the Gaz and they were humongus, maybe not quite as big as the .60 caliber number but they were biggest handgun of their day. Anybody seen a Gaz? or fired one?

Seems somebody took the T-rex thread a little too seriously.

WOW.Not even a .577 Tyrannosaur rifle blows you out of the picture!But as to these powerful handguns, though you may think that the guys who come up with bigger and bigger handguns are plumb loco (and this last one in .600 Nitro probably is), there is a legit reason for them. I'm going to tell you all something that even Ross Seyfried, who normally loved over the edge guns, never figured out.See, Ross figured that a gun had to fit in a holster and be 'packable' or it wasn't a handgun. He didn't approve of bolt actions, glass sights, etc. on his handguns.But Ross lived in the West. If you live in, oh, say, Wisconsin, there are laws forbidding you from using a centerfire rifle for deer or etc. below a certain latitude (a certain east west highway, in fact). South of that line it was shotgun and handgun yes (proving the handgun is .357, .41. .44 Magnum or equivalent), .30-30 rifle no.Some of you might not believe it, but right here on this very earth there are hunters who just want to bag a deer when they hunt. Any deer. They are not bloodthirsty poachers or market hunters, but working guys who live in town and can only get away to hunt a couple of weekends a year (I'm one of them), and that usually on public land. And they (I) would rather come home with a spike buck or a doe (where legal) than dream about antlers.With that in mind, the term 'handgun' covers a lot of ground. Get yourself a Contender in any decent caliber, put a scope on it, and most of the disadvantages of the holster gun are gone. Lawmakers who are against the Model 94 in .30-30 don't seem to realize that the Contender in 7mm Waters or Encore in any caliber you want (or one of the new S&W monster revolvers) can outshoot the Winchester .30-30 all day long, at any range.So. They may be huge and crazy, but thanks to the hand cannons the lawmakers are happy, and the hunters are happy. Ross wasn't happy, but not even he could be right all the time.

Sorry, but the only photo of you I could find was the big Saskatchewan buck picture and you bear a striking resemblance... besides they say it's a famous gunwriter holding the weapon on my other link about the revolver. And my motto is "often wrong, never in doubt", Dave's the one who's never wrong.

Yep, just like some of my favorite rifle purveyor's racks are full of the super ultra magnums after hunting season with tags that read "Consignment", or "Only detached 1 retina", or "Hardly used, only one broken clavicle"! LOLAll of a sudden, the .30-06 is an adequate cartridge again....

looks just like a magnum research bfr to me, if it is a 600 better him than me good luck.

This is getting stupid the same way sandwich joints get stupid trying to make the biggest burger.

This looks like something to own so you can say you own it - "Mine is bigger than yours."

Well, Dave, I think that handgun vies with the Gyroject for "worst handgun ever made." It's a marriage of the world's least useful cartridge with the worst qualities of a handgun (inaccuracy) and the worst qualities of a squad support weapon (weight).Definitely not my cup o' coffee, but if someone has the money and the desire, good on 'em for keeping firearms craftsmen employed and innovating.

Ahhhhh, this is just about as asinine as that dickweed who hunts with .50 BMG bullpup.Take enuff gun, but purposeful pain just blows!

How many stitches did he need? His face should be all messed up by watching the video. Can we all agree that he obviously 'ate' that scope? LOL And I agree, looks like a Contender in the vid, not a revolver!!

I don't think a revolver in this caliber would be a good idea, at least not with more than one chamber loaded. It's not safe to have loaded guns flying around!

Clay,I agree with you about the AK 454 Casull shooters. On the other hand, I bought one - a 4" 5/8 bbl field gun with conventional sights, finally, from Wayne at Casull Co.after a lot of conversations with him at Conventions. I do not like to shoot it, but I CAN shoot it. I worked my way up with a .44magS&W a lot of years ago and the same techniques apply only more so. I carry it in a shoulder rig when I am flying in big bear country or otherwise as may be needed. I have never had to use it in anger. But, with the 300 gr max round it is impressive. Sights do not mean much when you need that gun - instinctive shooting takes over (like the old western gunslingers).

Bella45 Cal 45ACP(.451) is 11.46mmand60 Cal is 15.24mm

I don't know where the 3 times more powerful than a .500 S&W came from. I'm guessing Ross would say something like "how about 3 times more powerful than a 30-06?"

Has Zeliska ever actually fired his new toy? Just wondering.

Back in the 19th century Some Hiungarian guy invented an 11mm revolver (it may have been pinfire), The name is on the tip of my toungue and I just can't come up with it...Anyway the King of Montenegro thought these huge 11mm revolvers were his ticket to national security so he decreed that every Montenegran adult male would carry one of these monsters at all times. I think it might be a fair compitition to this .60 caliber big shot.

Tennessee Hunter GuyI must respectfully disagree with you Sir. The #1 bar far backup gun is a Ruger Mark II 22 pistol and a pair of tennis shoes. Shoot your hunting partner in the ankle and run like hell !!!!

Dave,I'm not so much for fantasy but I read more than my fair share of science fiction. Have you ever thought of changing your writing career.

Mr. Zeliska has more money than I have sheets of toilet paper.

P.S. Don't forget to take the muzzlebreak off and shoot it once just to see how hard it really kicks...

Looks like a Contender to me... stainless steel and black composite too with the extended trigger guard like T/C's and #1's. Definitely not the revolver McIntyre is holding. Cool video though, did the guy hit himself in the face or not is what my son and I are arguing over.Go to my link it shows the same .600 Nitro T/C and the same guys. Never wrong Dave?

I'm with CRM - If he'd shot a revolver of .600 NE caliber the least of his worries would have been shooting the light load. Looking for his fingers in the next county would have been what he'd be up to.

I note that the firing range seemed to be empty as he prepares to fire. Wonder why?

Of course it has a gold plated hammer! For some reason the word "compensating" and the phrase, "hey ya'll watch this..." come to mind.Some where Elmer is sitting under that big old hat calling Bull$&!#on such pieces of hardware. But I bet he does have a bit of a grin on his face...

Geez......

So, is that like a slow pushing recoil of a .480 Ruger, or the intense slapping recoil of the .454 Casull? Ah, if it hits you in the head anyway, what does it matter?Looks like a pith helmet or hard hat should be standard equipment with this beast, along with a leather gauntlet and a hired revolver carrier. Maybe add shooting sticks and a counterweight hanging off the barrel. I know! Add a shoulder stock.

I saw that vid on youtube a while ago. Amazing gun! Just make your first shot count if you are carrying it as protection, because by the time you recover about 5 minutes later...well.

does the word "overkill" come to mind?for what purpose would anyone want to own such a monster?other than the fact that somebody can afford this beast and it would definitely make a reliable and interesting conversation piece.yes i'm sure it will get you that trophy you always wanted or save your life from a charging elephant.but after that save, how is it going to protect you from the next predator who comes around and you just happen to be walking around the african plains still dazed and confused from the first shot with possibly 2 broken arms or dislocated shoulders,etc.?