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Is This Fish the New World-Record Landlocked Atlantic Salmon or a Trophy-Class Brown Trout?

Is This Fish the New World-Record Landlocked Atlantic Salmon or a Trophy-Class Brown Trout?

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from steelhead08 wrote 24 weeks 4 days ago

It's a Brown!

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from matouse3 wrote 24 weeks 4 days ago

I don't know, usually those big browns have a couple red spots that give them away. Will be interesting to see what comes back from the DNA testing--

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from roweman07 wrote 24 weeks 4 days ago

I think its brown, just my gut.

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from MLH wrote 24 weeks 4 days ago

Well, if the biologists don't know ... who am I to say? Beautiful fish, though.

When stream run fish, like the browns, get into the lakes they just take on such different characteristics. I'm not 100% at identifying them.

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from tylermurr wrote 24 weeks 4 days ago

salmon

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from dneaster3 wrote 24 weeks 4 days ago

"(the fish was filleted soon after it was weighed)"
-- that's my favorite part of the story!

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from FE IV wrote 24 weeks 4 days ago

This is the same lake that monster Musky F&S highlighted last year (http://www.fieldandstream.com/photos/gallery/fishing/2009/09/new-michiga...). There must be something in the water!

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from bigg samson wrote 24 weeks 4 days ago

Big Ole Brown

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from ajb81586 wrote 24 weeks 4 days ago

The square tail would make me guess brown. But either way, nice fish. Torch lake is quickly making a name for itself beyond those of us who fish on it often. 50lb Muskies, 30lb trout/salmon, 6lb smallmouth. Yeah, I'd say its a decent fishing lake.

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from murdock32 wrote 24 weeks 4 days ago

I live in NW WA. and the shape of the head and tail look like a Chinook. Id say its a Salmon of some kind. Maybe a cross bread.

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from Accipiter wrote 24 weeks 4 days ago

Great Lakes Brown Trout. Big clear water makes them more silver in color.

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from djp5690 wrote 24 weeks 4 days ago

SQUARETAIL! Brown for sure....

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from blackdawgz wrote 24 weeks 4 days ago

I live in SW Washington. Anything that big out here is a Salmon.

But the proportions ain't right.

Mouth too small.

Looks like a trout.

But it looks like a beautiful place with a cool climate.

Nice fish, too.

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from Gnmu wrote 24 weeks 4 days ago

Have a feeling it is a brown. Sure would be great if it were a salmon though! Awesome fish either way!

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from Fishinrhoades wrote 24 weeks 4 days ago

Very nice fish. What I don't understand is. If you have a potential record, why in the world would you fillet it?

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from jakenbake wrote 24 weeks 4 days ago

Looks like a brown to me also... and why would you fillet it? To EAT it of course!

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from BowtechWVU wrote 24 weeks 4 days ago

This is one brute of a fish i beliuve it is a brown trout

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from PETESMEAT wrote 24 weeks 4 days ago

And how would you like that TROPHY RECORD FISH, steaked or fillets? what a shame....

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from spartan88 wrote 24 weeks 4 days ago

I like the shout out to MSU in here!

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from vanpatter wrote 24 weeks 4 days ago

The spots along the body behind the gills makes me think it's a Brown!

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from firetiger wrote 24 weeks 4 days ago

I had to comment about the MSU part also, GO GREEN :)
I couldn't be more proud to be part of this wonderful Fisheries and Wildlife program here at MSU

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from vicious lake effect wrote 24 weeks 3 days ago

Lake Superior Fisherman: Its a brown trout. Look at the peduncle - its short for a brown and lengthy for salmon. I'm talking distance in front of tail to adipose fin. Cold water browns are silver this time of year and confused with Atlantic's. Never give up!

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from ChadWa wrote 24 weeks 3 days ago

What color was the meat? Salmon is red to light pink, trout is white. I agree with blackdawgz about the mouth. I have never seen a salmon with a mouth that small, even a hens mouth comes to the front of the eye ball.

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from Donkeylegjohnson wrote 24 weeks 3 days ago

They must have been really hungery! Seriously fillet it? I know they taste good in all but this is a monster. Great catch though on an beautiful lake in a great part of Michigan.

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from jscottevans wrote 24 weeks 3 days ago

Sounds more like it's a "dinner" trout now.

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from spartan88 wrote 24 weeks 3 days ago

Go white!

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from ajb81586 wrote 24 weeks 3 days ago

Lots of people here seem like they're comparing it to Pacific salmon (not everyone though.) Gotta remember, Atlantic salmon, especially landlocked or Sebago salmon, have shorter mouths and heads than other salmon. I do think it's a brown, but as the article said, there's too many overlapping characteristics to make a determination without the DNA tests. Think it's a brown, hope its a salmon!

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from gsuperna wrote 24 weeks 3 days ago

HI,Nice Brown.

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from ajb81586 wrote 24 weeks 3 days ago

It could very well be a hybrid too.

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from steelhead08 wrote 24 weeks 3 days ago

Phenotypic Plasticity does not dictate in this case;DNA results will(I believe)determine that this is indeed a Brown. Sex may well be a determining factor as well;it's size-a "triploid hen" often exhibits proportions of this nature.

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from steelhead421 wrote 24 weeks 3 days ago

It's a brown. If it were a salmon it would have a small fork in the tail and would have black in it's mouth. I have caught a number of browns from Lake Ontario and Lake Erie in deep water that look similar to this one in color.

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from fliphuntr14 wrote 24 weeks 2 days ago

hybrid pretty sure thats possible

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from HighCountry wrote 24 weeks 2 days ago

My grandpa and I fished Torch for years an never saw anything like that - Congrats! Glad Torch is getting known for fishing again, maybe it will deter some of the jet-ski idiots just a little. Go Green, Go White!

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from littleshagshag wrote 24 weeks 18 hours ago

Awsome awsome fish!!!!

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from alandro wrote 24 weeks 11 hours ago

check the teeth! the brown trout's teeth are aranged differently than a salmon's. good luck!

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from BigBuckHunterDan wrote 23 weeks 2 days ago

It kinda looks like a brown in the head but salmon in the body

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from tourneyking734 wrote 21 weeks 6 days ago

the easiest way to tell would be to look at the tail, if it was more forked, it would be a landlocked. If it was square (like it is) then its a brown.

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from spartan88 wrote 21 weeks 6 days ago

Any updates on this?

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from BuckRogers wrote 21 weeks 5 days ago

We ate some of this fish last Tuesday night 3-30-2010 and the meat was nice and pink we all thought it was salmon before ken told us about the DNA test which hasn't came back yet.

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from Dave Rose wrote 21 weeks 5 days ago

As of April 8, 2010, the DNA test MSU is doing on this fish has not been finished. (There's a BIG difference in the amount of time test results take between "CSI Las Vegas" and real life...)

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from spartan88 wrote 21 weeks 5 days ago

Yeah and pretty expensive. I have run the protein analysis before and that is pretty quick but I doubt it is conclusive between such similar fish.

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from mchady wrote 21 weeks 4 days ago

no hookjaw, no trout

SALMON

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from Dave Rose wrote 11 weeks 3 days ago

As a follow up: DNA testing provided by Michigan State University’s Dr. Kim Scribner on the 29-pound 11-ounce fish, genus Salmo, reeled in from Antrim County’s Torch Lake this past spring has confirmed the fish a behemoth brown trout (Salmo trutta) and not a world-record landlocked Atlantic salmon (Salmo salar) as hoped by the angler.

Darn big brown trout, though, don't ya think?

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from steelhead08 wrote 24 weeks 4 days ago

It's a Brown!

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from MLH wrote 24 weeks 4 days ago

Well, if the biologists don't know ... who am I to say? Beautiful fish, though.

When stream run fish, like the browns, get into the lakes they just take on such different characteristics. I'm not 100% at identifying them.

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from dneaster3 wrote 24 weeks 4 days ago

"(the fish was filleted soon after it was weighed)"
-- that's my favorite part of the story!

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from bigg samson wrote 24 weeks 4 days ago

Big Ole Brown

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from matouse3 wrote 24 weeks 4 days ago

I don't know, usually those big browns have a couple red spots that give them away. Will be interesting to see what comes back from the DNA testing--

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from roweman07 wrote 24 weeks 4 days ago

I think its brown, just my gut.

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from FE IV wrote 24 weeks 4 days ago

This is the same lake that monster Musky F&S highlighted last year (http://www.fieldandstream.com/photos/gallery/fishing/2009/09/new-michiga...). There must be something in the water!

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from ajb81586 wrote 24 weeks 4 days ago

The square tail would make me guess brown. But either way, nice fish. Torch lake is quickly making a name for itself beyond those of us who fish on it often. 50lb Muskies, 30lb trout/salmon, 6lb smallmouth. Yeah, I'd say its a decent fishing lake.

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from blackdawgz wrote 24 weeks 4 days ago

I live in SW Washington. Anything that big out here is a Salmon.

But the proportions ain't right.

Mouth too small.

Looks like a trout.

But it looks like a beautiful place with a cool climate.

Nice fish, too.

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from vicious lake effect wrote 24 weeks 3 days ago

Lake Superior Fisherman: Its a brown trout. Look at the peduncle - its short for a brown and lengthy for salmon. I'm talking distance in front of tail to adipose fin. Cold water browns are silver this time of year and confused with Atlantic's. Never give up!

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from ajb81586 wrote 24 weeks 3 days ago

Lots of people here seem like they're comparing it to Pacific salmon (not everyone though.) Gotta remember, Atlantic salmon, especially landlocked or Sebago salmon, have shorter mouths and heads than other salmon. I do think it's a brown, but as the article said, there's too many overlapping characteristics to make a determination without the DNA tests. Think it's a brown, hope its a salmon!

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from gsuperna wrote 24 weeks 3 days ago

HI,Nice Brown.

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from ajb81586 wrote 24 weeks 3 days ago

It could very well be a hybrid too.

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from steelhead08 wrote 24 weeks 3 days ago

Phenotypic Plasticity does not dictate in this case;DNA results will(I believe)determine that this is indeed a Brown. Sex may well be a determining factor as well;it's size-a "triploid hen" often exhibits proportions of this nature.

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from steelhead421 wrote 24 weeks 3 days ago

It's a brown. If it were a salmon it would have a small fork in the tail and would have black in it's mouth. I have caught a number of browns from Lake Ontario and Lake Erie in deep water that look similar to this one in color.

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from HighCountry wrote 24 weeks 2 days ago

My grandpa and I fished Torch for years an never saw anything like that - Congrats! Glad Torch is getting known for fishing again, maybe it will deter some of the jet-ski idiots just a little. Go Green, Go White!

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from tylermurr wrote 24 weeks 4 days ago

salmon

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from Accipiter wrote 24 weeks 4 days ago

Great Lakes Brown Trout. Big clear water makes them more silver in color.

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from djp5690 wrote 24 weeks 4 days ago

SQUARETAIL! Brown for sure....

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from Gnmu wrote 24 weeks 4 days ago

Have a feeling it is a brown. Sure would be great if it were a salmon though! Awesome fish either way!

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from Fishinrhoades wrote 24 weeks 4 days ago

Very nice fish. What I don't understand is. If you have a potential record, why in the world would you fillet it?

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from jakenbake wrote 24 weeks 4 days ago

Looks like a brown to me also... and why would you fillet it? To EAT it of course!

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from BowtechWVU wrote 24 weeks 4 days ago

This is one brute of a fish i beliuve it is a brown trout

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from PETESMEAT wrote 24 weeks 4 days ago

And how would you like that TROPHY RECORD FISH, steaked or fillets? what a shame....

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from spartan88 wrote 24 weeks 4 days ago

I like the shout out to MSU in here!

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from vanpatter wrote 24 weeks 4 days ago

The spots along the body behind the gills makes me think it's a Brown!

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from firetiger wrote 24 weeks 4 days ago

I had to comment about the MSU part also, GO GREEN :)
I couldn't be more proud to be part of this wonderful Fisheries and Wildlife program here at MSU

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from ChadWa wrote 24 weeks 3 days ago

What color was the meat? Salmon is red to light pink, trout is white. I agree with blackdawgz about the mouth. I have never seen a salmon with a mouth that small, even a hens mouth comes to the front of the eye ball.

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from Donkeylegjohnson wrote 24 weeks 3 days ago

They must have been really hungery! Seriously fillet it? I know they taste good in all but this is a monster. Great catch though on an beautiful lake in a great part of Michigan.

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from jscottevans wrote 24 weeks 3 days ago

Sounds more like it's a "dinner" trout now.

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from spartan88 wrote 24 weeks 3 days ago

Go white!

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from fliphuntr14 wrote 24 weeks 2 days ago

hybrid pretty sure thats possible

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from littleshagshag wrote 24 weeks 18 hours ago

Awsome awsome fish!!!!

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from alandro wrote 24 weeks 11 hours ago

check the teeth! the brown trout's teeth are aranged differently than a salmon's. good luck!

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from BigBuckHunterDan wrote 23 weeks 2 days ago

It kinda looks like a brown in the head but salmon in the body

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from tourneyking734 wrote 21 weeks 6 days ago

the easiest way to tell would be to look at the tail, if it was more forked, it would be a landlocked. If it was square (like it is) then its a brown.

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from spartan88 wrote 21 weeks 6 days ago

Any updates on this?

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from BuckRogers wrote 21 weeks 5 days ago

We ate some of this fish last Tuesday night 3-30-2010 and the meat was nice and pink we all thought it was salmon before ken told us about the DNA test which hasn't came back yet.

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from Dave Rose wrote 21 weeks 5 days ago

As of April 8, 2010, the DNA test MSU is doing on this fish has not been finished. (There's a BIG difference in the amount of time test results take between "CSI Las Vegas" and real life...)

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from spartan88 wrote 21 weeks 5 days ago

Yeah and pretty expensive. I have run the protein analysis before and that is pretty quick but I doubt it is conclusive between such similar fish.

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from mchady wrote 21 weeks 4 days ago

no hookjaw, no trout

SALMON

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from Dave Rose wrote 11 weeks 3 days ago

As a follow up: DNA testing provided by Michigan State University’s Dr. Kim Scribner on the 29-pound 11-ounce fish, genus Salmo, reeled in from Antrim County’s Torch Lake this past spring has confirmed the fish a behemoth brown trout (Salmo trutta) and not a world-record landlocked Atlantic salmon (Salmo salar) as hoped by the angler.

Darn big brown trout, though, don't ya think?

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