5. Winchester Model 71 lever action: From a sales standpoint, the 71 was a failure. It was made from 1935 to 1957, only 47,000 were produced, and the gun was chambered for only one cartridge--the .348. But the Model 71 is not only a whitetail rifle par excellence, it is also powerful enough to be a good bear, elk, and moose hunting rifle. Moreover, it was built during Winchester's heyday, and every 71 I've ever handled has been a prime example of why guns from this period are so prized by collectors as well as hunters.
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Great list. That Mannlicher Schoenauer is a thing of beauty.
Hard to beat a lever gun in the deer woods, Savage 99 or other wise. I lament all the 99's I let slip by over the years. Most all were bargains at the time, especially a .358 Winchester with a rotary magazine whose owner couldn't find ammo for it and complained about recoil. There was also a great little .250 Savage...
The uncle who taught me most of what I know about hunting carried a '60s era model 99 in .300 Savage. It has iron sights and the rotary magazine, and it still shoots like a dream. If I were building my ideal whitetail rifle, it would be a model 99 in 7mm-08.
I believe many of us can recall the rifles we should NEVER have sold, and I can generate a list of my own. Among them, a Savage 99 in .250 Savage, sold in lean times to address other priorities. I don't disagree with any of the choices illustrated, though I'd generate a different list based on other preferences, but I won't disagree with any of these.
i have always loved wincester 94. i wish i had one, the has a great hold and feel to it
Excellent list. I would suggest an honorable mention to the .257 Roberts by BSA.
The Springfield 30-06 03-A3, the forgotten one!
Lets not forget the Savage Model 99!
the windcester 94 was my ferst deer rifle as a kid and i just bought another one last week thay have the best feel to them of any deer rifle iv ever held in my hands
the winchester model 94 is probably the most versitle rifle in the bunch. at close range a 30.30 will take down most everything in north america and the winchester action is very relaible one rifle that i can not believe didn`t make the cut is the remington model 700
I won't hunt with anything called a Man-Licker but thank you.
The model 64 Winchester was a blend of the 94 action and the style of the 71. It still is the rifle I choose when the distance is 150 yards or less. The accuracy is good but hampered by the open sights and trajectory. A good peep sight and the LeverEvolution ammo will stretch that another 100 yards. Part of the experience is the feeling of tradition and the Winchester is the lever action deer rifle. I would hunt with any of the 10 and each has it's place. Let's check in 100 years and see what is still here.
My pop died when I was youn leaving me a Savage Model 99 in .308 and my Uncle recently had surgery leaving him unable to shoot shouldered firearms (he's now using a pistol, of course) letting me buy a few of his guns, including a Remington 760 in .300 sav. a few months ago. Then I get the Dec/Jan issue of F&S and on page 94 are these 2 at #1 and #4 respectively. Guess those old farts knew a thing or 2 on choosing Whitetail rifles. Thanks for the article.
Let's not forget the Ruger Model 77 (.308) or the good old 45/70 Trapdoor. How many whitetails were harvested for subsistance during the 1800's to the 1930's?
Cheers
there is a 3 generation model 1899 in .300 savage sitting in my safe, calling to me every night. when it finally lets me sleep, i dream about flattening a lion with a 7600 in .35 whelen. speaking of africa, that 660 in .350 would be pretty handy-dandy there.
Trimming the spring in the trigger assemble carefully made the rem 760 very satisfactory!
A good list over all, I would have liked to have seen the Remington model 700 listed in the top 10. Some of the guns are a little out there in price but over all not bad.
C'mon Dave...a rifle you shoot in a bean field and a shotgun in the 10 best RIFLE list.
How about the 2 most popular bolt actions ever produced? I'll give you a hint...a Mannlicher is NOT one of them.
Good list would to better with more information on the guns though.
I would have to agree about the model 94 winchester but I'm disapointed that the model 70 didn''t make the list
what i want to know is where is the remigton model 700.
Where are all the bolt guns? Come on Dave, no 70s, 700, or 77s??? Wow, and a 600??? Good lord how long did that one last 20 years with miserable sales?
I do like the guide gun in 45-70 though that is a little powerhouse and fun to shoot.
YOu guys no what is a good deer gun 700 ultra bolt that is a good deer gun it kicks hard though
I'm glad that the model 94 made it into the top ten deer rifles, the model 94 rifle that I use is in the 44 mag. caliber, it's light and easy to carry through thich brush and nasty terrain. And it pack's a wollop.
I think that you should have mentioned the marlin 1894 44 magnum. I don't think it would be worth the light-loading to hunt deer with a 45/70.
I think the savage model 99 should have been chambered in 444 marlin-would be a great elk rifle as well.
The country I come from, doesnt allow any kind of "self defence weapons", The government has PC'ed their backbone out!....they will only allow hunting weapons IF you observe very strict rules, and in fact will only let you do a class for your firearm licence IF you pass various state security tests (much like those imposed on possible terrorists entering the country from abroad)
...so I can only comment very vaguely based on my limited experience.... But am an avid big game fisherman/and would be hunter... I think the pics are great. but wonder if the guns are a little dated??... surely there are more modern/efficient weapons available that may not yet have had time enough to be proven to joe public based on historical reputation???..."I cant know without the comments of experience from blokes like you"
I have had the absolute pleasure to visit a bloody beautiful part of the world known as northern California, and while there, was able to shoot almost any kind of rifle I could think of,at almost anything I cared to... some dating all the way back to the "Sharps" era right up to fairly modern rifles/handguns... The opinion I have, is that though the older types of guns are about the most fun you can have in the vertical position...."that is without commenting on the fact that they are by far the most elegant of their kind to look at and handle"... but just as with cars, the more modern.... surely has to be the most efficient?...and if not?.... "in the respect of accuracy"... the most satisfying to work with??... I am just not in it to shoot a whitetail at 1400 yards, much like I am with fishing, "I would rather catch and release"... for me, its all about tecnique... "If I know I can bag it, thats enough for me" (unless I am looking at sharks or coyotes.)... Deep Shit. ... he he
Modle 94 and marlin 336 that all i go near the woods with for a rifle
could or should you use a 300 win mag for deer hunting. I'm new to hunting and my buddy said if want just one gun get a 300 win mag it will be good for every thing including deer. What are your thoughts on this ?. Thanks Griz.
i really like this article but i see no point in a blaze orange gun
i really like this article but i see no point in a blaze orange gun
agree with rserwe
i love that savage
Great story...some people forget that it doesnt take a custom made 6,000 dollar to kill large or medium size game...Some of the most successful hunters I know (some of which have passed on) hunt with used and abused level actions in calibers like 30-30. Today no one would "recommend" this caliber for large game like moose, but I dont know how many people I know that have killed moose in this caliber. Regardless of your rifle...SHOT PLACEMENT!!
the win. model 100 should be on there
I just bought a Ruger M77 Hawkeye International, it has the full mannlicher style stock but sadly not the butter knife bolt handle. It still points wonderfully and has a nice light feel to it though.
Oh boy, here goes the old spoon stirring the crap again. If you want to get a hunter fired up, don't include his favorite gun in the article writer's top ten list.
I really wonder just how many of the guns on his list he's actually shot. It appears to me that he plagerized a list out of a 1955 Outdoor Life article.
With the recent past 15 years of bullet and powder developement, why would one continue on stating the top ten are only the ones that Great Grandpa shot?
I will say again, and hold to it, that the best gun a hunter can kill an animal with expediently is the one he shoots well. The shot placement and the ability of the firearm and shooter to put it in the vitals is the most important factor over anyone's top ten list.
Also, I agree with many of you responding to this article. There are definately some very exceptional guns missing from this list.
guys,everyone has what i call the gun they were raised on.that usually is your gun of guns.the f&s list is that editors personal picks.my list is based on the guns that i still think are worth owning on a middle class budget.1)remington 760.2)winchester model 70.3)winchester 94.4)marlin 336.5)savage 99.6)remington 700.7)ruger m77.8)tc icon.9)browning bar.10)just for you guy from ohio 870 remington rifle slud.and that is only my personal picks
Pretty cool. Too bad about the Remington 600, 660, and the Winchester '71. They looked like they would have been nice deer guns.
What about the Ruger "DeerField" 44mag? You can't beat that for a brushgun. Or the Reamington 700 or The Ruger M77 or the Winchester M70. All were GREAT deer rifles.
never seen a tar-hunt or mannlicher in the maine northwoods. winchester 64's, 70's, 88's & 94's; savage 99's, remington 740's, 742's & 760's were the norm. occasionally you'd see a mongrel winchester '71 or 1895, marlin 336, smle .303 or ruger 44 or 77. i think you missed the mark by not including the fast handling, light carrying, near or long shooting little remington model 7. teamed with the 7mm-08 round, it is the ultimate modern deer hunting rifle.
SELDOM DO I RESPOND TO THE SO-CALLED EXPERTS OPINIONS ON HUNTING OR EQUIPMENT FOR I UNDERSTAND THEY ARE PAID TO WRITE AND SOMTIMES THERE ARTICLES ARE DICTATED BY A HIGHER SOURCE. HOWEVER, I WOULD LIKE TO COMMENT ON THE ARTICLE ENTILED " BEST 10 DEER RIFLES EVER PRODUCED " GIVE ME A BREAK GUYS , YOU SHOULD HAVE SAID " BEST 10 OF YESTERYEAR " TODAYS OFFERING OF RIFLES LEAVES MOST OF YOUR PICKS IN THE DUST . DONT GET ME WRONG , YOUR PICKS WERE ABSOLUTELY SOME OF THE BEST FOR YOUR FATHER OR PERHAPS YOUR GRANDFATHER BUT MODERNERZATION HAS PRODUCED WAY YONDER BETTER EQUIPMENT FOR TODAYS HUNTERS. AND THATS THE WAY IT IS AND SHOULD BE . KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK .
AN OLD TIMER
#4 Remington's 760 "Gamemaster" in .270 with 130gr Nosler Partitions that's what I have taken most all mine with.Two Bou in Canada's Ungava and a 14" spread West Virginia 9pt Buck.At ranges over 250 yards.Like her because she pumps fast like a shotgun,and keeps your point of aim while you work her.
I think Petzal wrote this article to demonstrate that people actually read his work! The responses will be used to justify a pay increase!
What about the Winchester 70...? The Savage 110...?
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Great list. That Mannlicher Schoenauer is a thing of beauty.
Hard to beat a lever gun in the deer woods, Savage 99 or other wise. I lament all the 99's I let slip by over the years. Most all were bargains at the time, especially a .358 Winchester with a rotary magazine whose owner couldn't find ammo for it and complained about recoil. There was also a great little .250 Savage...
Lets not forget the Savage Model 99!
Oh boy, here goes the old spoon stirring the crap again. If you want to get a hunter fired up, don't include his favorite gun in the article writer's top ten list.
I really wonder just how many of the guns on his list he's actually shot. It appears to me that he plagerized a list out of a 1955 Outdoor Life article.
With the recent past 15 years of bullet and powder developement, why would one continue on stating the top ten are only the ones that Great Grandpa shot?
I will say again, and hold to it, that the best gun a hunter can kill an animal with expediently is the one he shoots well. The shot placement and the ability of the firearm and shooter to put it in the vitals is the most important factor over anyone's top ten list.
Also, I agree with many of you responding to this article. There are definately some very exceptional guns missing from this list.
guys,everyone has what i call the gun they were raised on.that usually is your gun of guns.the f&s list is that editors personal picks.my list is based on the guns that i still think are worth owning on a middle class budget.1)remington 760.2)winchester model 70.3)winchester 94.4)marlin 336.5)savage 99.6)remington 700.7)ruger m77.8)tc icon.9)browning bar.10)just for you guy from ohio 870 remington rifle slud.and that is only my personal picks
i have always loved wincester 94. i wish i had one, the has a great hold and feel to it
The Springfield 30-06 03-A3, the forgotten one!
the windcester 94 was my ferst deer rifle as a kid and i just bought another one last week thay have the best feel to them of any deer rifle iv ever held in my hands
My pop died when I was youn leaving me a Savage Model 99 in .308 and my Uncle recently had surgery leaving him unable to shoot shouldered firearms (he's now using a pistol, of course) letting me buy a few of his guns, including a Remington 760 in .300 sav. a few months ago. Then I get the Dec/Jan issue of F&S and on page 94 are these 2 at #1 and #4 respectively. Guess those old farts knew a thing or 2 on choosing Whitetail rifles. Thanks for the article.
Trimming the spring in the trigger assemble carefully made the rem 760 very satisfactory!
C'mon Dave...a rifle you shoot in a bean field and a shotgun in the 10 best RIFLE list.
How about the 2 most popular bolt actions ever produced? I'll give you a hint...a Mannlicher is NOT one of them.
Good list would to better with more information on the guns though.
I would have to agree about the model 94 winchester but I'm disapointed that the model 70 didn''t make the list
SELDOM DO I RESPOND TO THE SO-CALLED EXPERTS OPINIONS ON HUNTING OR EQUIPMENT FOR I UNDERSTAND THEY ARE PAID TO WRITE AND SOMTIMES THERE ARTICLES ARE DICTATED BY A HIGHER SOURCE. HOWEVER, I WOULD LIKE TO COMMENT ON THE ARTICLE ENTILED " BEST 10 DEER RIFLES EVER PRODUCED " GIVE ME A BREAK GUYS , YOU SHOULD HAVE SAID " BEST 10 OF YESTERYEAR " TODAYS OFFERING OF RIFLES LEAVES MOST OF YOUR PICKS IN THE DUST . DONT GET ME WRONG , YOUR PICKS WERE ABSOLUTELY SOME OF THE BEST FOR YOUR FATHER OR PERHAPS YOUR GRANDFATHER BUT MODERNERZATION HAS PRODUCED WAY YONDER BETTER EQUIPMENT FOR TODAYS HUNTERS. AND THATS THE WAY IT IS AND SHOULD BE . KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK .
AN OLD TIMER
What about the Winchester 70...? The Savage 110...?
The uncle who taught me most of what I know about hunting carried a '60s era model 99 in .300 Savage. It has iron sights and the rotary magazine, and it still shoots like a dream. If I were building my ideal whitetail rifle, it would be a model 99 in 7mm-08.
I believe many of us can recall the rifles we should NEVER have sold, and I can generate a list of my own. Among them, a Savage 99 in .250 Savage, sold in lean times to address other priorities. I don't disagree with any of the choices illustrated, though I'd generate a different list based on other preferences, but I won't disagree with any of these.
Excellent list. I would suggest an honorable mention to the .257 Roberts by BSA.
the winchester model 94 is probably the most versitle rifle in the bunch. at close range a 30.30 will take down most everything in north america and the winchester action is very relaible one rifle that i can not believe didn`t make the cut is the remington model 700
The model 64 Winchester was a blend of the 94 action and the style of the 71. It still is the rifle I choose when the distance is 150 yards or less. The accuracy is good but hampered by the open sights and trajectory. A good peep sight and the LeverEvolution ammo will stretch that another 100 yards. Part of the experience is the feeling of tradition and the Winchester is the lever action deer rifle. I would hunt with any of the 10 and each has it's place. Let's check in 100 years and see what is still here.
Let's not forget the Ruger Model 77 (.308) or the good old 45/70 Trapdoor. How many whitetails were harvested for subsistance during the 1800's to the 1930's?
Cheers
there is a 3 generation model 1899 in .300 savage sitting in my safe, calling to me every night. when it finally lets me sleep, i dream about flattening a lion with a 7600 in .35 whelen. speaking of africa, that 660 in .350 would be pretty handy-dandy there.
A good list over all, I would have liked to have seen the Remington model 700 listed in the top 10. Some of the guns are a little out there in price but over all not bad.
what i want to know is where is the remigton model 700.
Where are all the bolt guns? Come on Dave, no 70s, 700, or 77s??? Wow, and a 600??? Good lord how long did that one last 20 years with miserable sales?
I do like the guide gun in 45-70 though that is a little powerhouse and fun to shoot.
YOu guys no what is a good deer gun 700 ultra bolt that is a good deer gun it kicks hard though
I'm glad that the model 94 made it into the top ten deer rifles, the model 94 rifle that I use is in the 44 mag. caliber, it's light and easy to carry through thich brush and nasty terrain. And it pack's a wollop.
I think that you should have mentioned the marlin 1894 44 magnum. I don't think it would be worth the light-loading to hunt deer with a 45/70.
I think the savage model 99 should have been chambered in 444 marlin-would be a great elk rifle as well.
The country I come from, doesnt allow any kind of "self defence weapons", The government has PC'ed their backbone out!....they will only allow hunting weapons IF you observe very strict rules, and in fact will only let you do a class for your firearm licence IF you pass various state security tests (much like those imposed on possible terrorists entering the country from abroad)
...so I can only comment very vaguely based on my limited experience.... But am an avid big game fisherman/and would be hunter... I think the pics are great. but wonder if the guns are a little dated??... surely there are more modern/efficient weapons available that may not yet have had time enough to be proven to joe public based on historical reputation???..."I cant know without the comments of experience from blokes like you"
I have had the absolute pleasure to visit a bloody beautiful part of the world known as northern California, and while there, was able to shoot almost any kind of rifle I could think of,at almost anything I cared to... some dating all the way back to the "Sharps" era right up to fairly modern rifles/handguns... The opinion I have, is that though the older types of guns are about the most fun you can have in the vertical position...."that is without commenting on the fact that they are by far the most elegant of their kind to look at and handle"... but just as with cars, the more modern.... surely has to be the most efficient?...and if not?.... "in the respect of accuracy"... the most satisfying to work with??... I am just not in it to shoot a whitetail at 1400 yards, much like I am with fishing, "I would rather catch and release"... for me, its all about tecnique... "If I know I can bag it, thats enough for me" (unless I am looking at sharks or coyotes.)... Deep Shit. ... he he
Modle 94 and marlin 336 that all i go near the woods with for a rifle
could or should you use a 300 win mag for deer hunting. I'm new to hunting and my buddy said if want just one gun get a 300 win mag it will be good for every thing including deer. What are your thoughts on this ?. Thanks Griz.
i really like this article but i see no point in a blaze orange gun
i really like this article but i see no point in a blaze orange gun
agree with rserwe
i love that savage
Great story...some people forget that it doesnt take a custom made 6,000 dollar to kill large or medium size game...Some of the most successful hunters I know (some of which have passed on) hunt with used and abused level actions in calibers like 30-30. Today no one would "recommend" this caliber for large game like moose, but I dont know how many people I know that have killed moose in this caliber. Regardless of your rifle...SHOT PLACEMENT!!
the win. model 100 should be on there
I just bought a Ruger M77 Hawkeye International, it has the full mannlicher style stock but sadly not the butter knife bolt handle. It still points wonderfully and has a nice light feel to it though.
Pretty cool. Too bad about the Remington 600, 660, and the Winchester '71. They looked like they would have been nice deer guns.
What about the Ruger "DeerField" 44mag? You can't beat that for a brushgun. Or the Reamington 700 or The Ruger M77 or the Winchester M70. All were GREAT deer rifles.
#4 Remington's 760 "Gamemaster" in .270 with 130gr Nosler Partitions that's what I have taken most all mine with.Two Bou in Canada's Ungava and a 14" spread West Virginia 9pt Buck.At ranges over 250 yards.Like her because she pumps fast like a shotgun,and keeps your point of aim while you work her.
I think Petzal wrote this article to demonstrate that people actually read his work! The responses will be used to justify a pay increase!
I won't hunt with anything called a Man-Licker but thank you.
never seen a tar-hunt or mannlicher in the maine northwoods. winchester 64's, 70's, 88's & 94's; savage 99's, remington 740's, 742's & 760's were the norm. occasionally you'd see a mongrel winchester '71 or 1895, marlin 336, smle .303 or ruger 44 or 77. i think you missed the mark by not including the fast handling, light carrying, near or long shooting little remington model 7. teamed with the 7mm-08 round, it is the ultimate modern deer hunting rifle.
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