How about speaking to Federal and others to expand their offerings in 16 gauge? To me it is ludacris that 00 buck and slugs are available in 410, but not in the 16 gauge. There a a large number of people who still prefer to use a 16 gauge shotgun and would use slugs, 00 buck, steel shot and everything else that is offered in 12, 20, 28, and even 410. Check it out on line. I know that I would.

Here Here NM, I ditto everything you just posted about 16 gauge ammo!!! WE NEED MORE OF IT!!! ITS A GREAT GAUGE!!!

seems like machines do everything in that plant. wonder what the hourly wage is. i bet they make a 300% profit on every box they sell.

I wish they would put a little thicker brass plating (or whatever it is) on those steel shell heads, sux to have rusty shotgun shells. Actually I've had guys at the gun store argue with me that federal shells are all brass headed and cannot rust, even when I had a rusty specimen in hand!
Nice to know I'm not crazy, I figured it had to be steel as brass does not rust last I checked.

BTW, how do they attach the head to the hull? I always thought the plastic was injection molded right into the head, as I've never seen a hull separate even after repeated reloadings. (I use them until they are splitting down the sides!)

If they are glued in I'd like to know what kind of glue they use!

Thanks for the behind the scenes look but at $20 bucks a box for I will look elsewhere.

I agree... what is the nature of the supply/demand relationship with market prices of ammo?!

i am surprise at the expensive comment , especially comming from the land of guns the us of a , in montreal i can buy a case (250 rounds)of federal target quality ammo (12 and 20) for around 60.00$ including taxes , you need inexpensive for target shooting (i shoot a lot ), for hunting buy the better quality one but at 15.00 for 25 shell i hardly call this expensive

Using the bicycles seems like a good idea to get around a big plant. I would be tempted to give my entire check back to Federal, toward ammo, if I worked there.

Help me out here, can someone explain this new type of ammo "centerfire and rimfire ammunication,"????

Here's the scary skinny on lead....shot is made from old lead batteries, and the movement is to eliminate the lead in batteries..when it happens the price of lead shoots way up, and the market will eliminate lead..politics will not be the driving force. And the cost now is drivin by new shell development all the time..new marketing, boxes, wad, and shot components. My new Prairie Storm shells have 30% silver coated, and 70% copper coated shot...and the fastest load I can buy...costs money, and I am excited to use them. And Federal shows a target with 75% pattern at 40 yds using an improved cylinder choke for those that think they need a tighter choked gun.

A lot of you guys really need to take Econ 101 before making irrational statements about cost. There are lots of shell makers competing for market share, and squeezing what profit they can out of a box of shells is the reality. I won't bore you with the costs/overhead they have. The list would be lengthy to not even mention the liability insurance they must have to carry.

Ok, hardwoodjdc said ammunication, but I'll bet Phil was thinking it! LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Thats quite he process and a whole lot of ammo made everyday!

Very cool to see how their made.
I wouldn't mind owning their warehouse.

First, be happy Federal is able to put out so many different grades and prices of ammo. Second, if they had enough demand for 16 guage, they would make it; with low demand, the price would be much higher and you'd complain about that. 'Til then you'll just have to load your own. And third, for dealing with a product which can be so messy, I'm impressed with the cleanliness of the plant and machinery.

Next purchase of shotgun ammo will be Federal.