State wildlife officer Mike Miller, a 20-year veteran, is assigned to Ohio’s Knox County, one of the ten largest deer-kill counties in the state. Hunters took a total of 7,174 deer in the county last year. On opening day of the Ohio deer-gun hunting season this year, hunters killed 700 deer in Knox County, down slightly from the 761 deer killed during last year’s opening day.
FieldandStream.com contributor W. H. “Chip” Gross accompanied officers from the Ohio Department of Natural Resources, Division of Wildlife on opening day of the Ohio deer-gun hunting season, November 29, 2010, with his camera. Once an Ohio wildlife officer himself, Gross is now a professional outdoors writer/photographer who still lives in the Buckeye State.
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the guy in pic no.5 had a shotgun with a extended magizine
I wanted to be a game warden when I was a kid but here in CO we have never had a game warden barge in a stand like shown in the pictures here talk about ruining a hunt or a stand.
I have met a couple of the wardens in the photos. They patrol the areas I hunt. For one person they have entirely too much area to cover.
Mr. Miller seems a lot friendlier towards hunters than the fellows on Wild Justice. The guys on the show seem very wary of hunters, but I guess that's one of the many great things about not living in California.
I am very glad to see him doing his job. Being a game warden is often a thankless job and I appreciate his willingness to do it. That said, I would not be very happy if I had him stomping around under my stand on opening morning.
What do you think of walking up to a treestand or blind and asking to see ID? I'm not a fan of this at all. I'd say this guy is way out of line.
I hope that he is walking up to these blinds, and stands on state propery. There is no reason for a Conservation Officer to disrupt a hunt on private property without due cause, or he sees an illegal act in process.
I would assume these actions took place on state property. I'm not sure what the regulations are in Ohio but I know in Wisconsin, public property, you're not allowed to leave blinds or treestands out overnight, and ground blinds must have a certain amount of orange around the perimeter for safety precautions.
what is with everyone shooting themselves?
Is the officer patrolling public land or private. If this is private land it seems he is breaking a few freedoms in the constitution. Many of the situations would be very similar to a cop searching your house because you were outside. In Michigan we had a very important ruling a few years ago to protect our rights.
the officer is actually a really cool guy i got to meet him.
in pic 14 the one deputy in fron t is my uncle
At least he is catching people in the wrong, We need some officers around here like that because we have so many people shooting out of their vehicles off of the road and in to where we hunt.
Aferraro, I agree. It's out of line if nothing looked illegal. Roads are mostly public too, but we sure as hell don't get pulled over just to get our ID's checked.
In any case, Ohio might just have the highest stupidity and scum density in the nation. Not only is an unplugged shotgun that can hold more than 3 shells illegal, one with an extended magazine is just insanity. The guy in photo number five should be locked up. What an idiot. It should take one shot, but many Ohioans think it should take as many as you can rattle off before the deer runs out of sight.
i want to be a game warden so bad
Yeah, I appreciate what all game wardens do. But approaching a treestand on opening day just to check ID or license? That doesn't fly. If there's cause or someone is headed out of the woods, it's one thing.
You are generalizing and I don't think it is fair. I am a Ohioan, I don't run around with a 8 round shotgun, or a 44 scoped mag. I would bet there are plenty of people in your state that "take as many shots as they can rattle off".
If an officer came to my stand just to check my license I would be EXTREMELY pissed. No reason for it. Talk about ruining your set up. Check me b4 I go in or when I come out. No class at all.
I'm an Ohioan and that's how I know. I didn't say everyone did anything. I said the density of idiots might be higher than elsewhere.
I've hunted many states and have never heard as much rapid fire as I do here. I hear far more than the legal 3 rounds. All the time. Those are the scum I'm talking about. I'll go ahead lump in this out of shape warden with his out of line stand approaches, too.
I should say I'm not really an Ohioan, I just happen to live here now.
Ok maybe I was just making an assumption, that every state has rapid fire idiots. I have only hunted in Ohio and Nebraska so I am drawing from that experience. I have heard on a couple of occations more then three shots in a row as well. Another assumption could be that there is a group of people driving deer, none of which could hit the broadside of a barn, hence multiple shots. I would hate to think that a large majority of the state is comprized of people who are unethical and aid in giving us ethical hunters a bad name. It is already hard enough to try to find somewhere to hunt. I also agree that if a wildlife officer walked up to me in a treestand for no other reason but to check my gun and permit I would be FURIOUS, but if what you say is true and there is a large majority of people hunting beyond ohio's regulations I would welcome it simply to get the "undesirables" off the land and make more room for those of us who do things right.
Didn't look at the pics, but does anyone know that officers get moved, relocated because of threats to their lives? Happens a lot. Add it all up, and why I gave up hunting with a rifle. Way too many crazy's out there for me.
I live and hunt in Ohio, usally hunt southern OH for gun because it is overcrowded in northern OH, example williams co. if your deer does not drop in front of you expect the next couple hunters who are close enough to lite it up and then argue over what little meat is left, sad but true
I'll bet that the guys with a slug in his foot and .44 in the thigh will be somewhat more careful in the future. Or not.
Public or private land, I would be very upset if for no reason a Conservation Officer walked up on my stand I had legally scouted, placed a stand, and was hunting in prime-time hours, possibly ruining my chance on a Buck I had been watching for months! As another reader commented, please get me on my way in, or coming out. I realize Officers are short handed, but walking up on every orange vest will just make people hunt in camo!
I do not think that the Warden should distrub anyone's hunt by checking for license, orange color, etc. unless the Warden has reason to suspect an illegal activity. Here in Texas, the Game Warden have more legal authority than any law enforcement agency in the state. But, too many of us have to pay a lot of money to hunt and may only get to hunt white-tail deer once or twice in a lifetime, and to have a Warden screw up that hunt when I am doing everything legally would piss me off and make me very unfriendly, uncooperative, and unsupportive towards any Warden. I'm a Red-neck, retired military, and disabled vet. An incident like those in this story would make my blood boil and I'm stupid enough to go to Austin, TX each and every time the Dept of Parks and Wildlfe has an open meeting to fight the Wardens on whatever laws that wanted to change. I have always preached religion and sportsmenship to my grandsons, but with the current administration in D.C., it may soon come down to bare kinuckles to protect our 2nd Amendment. I'm just about sick and tired of the lawyers, judges, and politicians not having any common sense who are only out to line their pockets with my tax dollars.
My understanding of Ohio law is that a landowner may hunt on his own property without a hunting license. That would mean all these "stops" for hunting must be on private property. It was nice that they tagged the deer at the camp and made it easier for those hunters.
I hope that ground blind was on public land. Who wants the game warden or anyone for that matter bothering them on opening morning of season & ruining their chances. I know many people that are feed up with that type of behavior from ODNR employees. I've had landowners in our rural area saying they don't want them on their land unless they called for a problem. Most times they do a decent job & treat you fairly if you are honest/law-abiding. Hunter Jim from Ohio
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What's wrong with a scopped .44 mag.? it's a legal firearm for deer hunting in Ohio.
Personally,I use an old model 370 Winchester single shot 3" mag 20 gauge (no scope) for ohio gun season.
I mostly hunted in NE Ohio this years gun season,on public land,saw the DNR guys twice,and they were checking tags and guns at the parking areas,and checking to see that deer being dragged back had been tagged with the temporary tag,I saw them at two different areas-West Branch,and Ladue,which used to be city of Akron water supply lands. They did not seem to be bothering hunters who wre hunting,they were checking those coming in or out of the areas. Earlier,in early Nov.when bow-hunting, I saw the DNR game wardens in the woods a few times,they never did more than wave,and keep going. The day after the pheasant releases,they were in the field,checking licenses,and making sure no one had more than 2,or had hens.
Maybe there have been more problems in the southern part of Ohio?
Even though a warden's job is difficult and could be hazardous at times, It realy messes up a good hunting trip when he walks up to a man hunting from a tree stand. There should be another way and probably are ways to accomplish the same task. Two years ago an officer "drove 'up to my tree stand, I just gave up and went home for the day... They normaly don't do that here andI thought it was uncalled for.
I know mr bullard,and knox is like 10miles fom here
"I've had landowners in our rural area saying they don't want them on their land unless they called for a problem."..... most wardens I know don't go on private land during a hunt unless there is a reported problem or they suspect a problem. They are just wayyyy to busy down here in the south.
Not south Ohio ..... Dixie!
Wow! I have heard of these guys doing stuff like this but had never seen it first hand. This guy truly hates hunters with a passion. No wonder they say it's a thankless job, who would thank him for ruining your hunt.
You know,if you don't do anything illegal they are the greatest guys in the woods. I have been checked and never had even a rude officer. There is a bunch of poaching down in Southeast Ohio. And poachers don't care. These guys have a tough job to do with many,many hours. Not to mention running into some crazy person with a gun in his hands. I respect them and what they do. As for going on to private property. They has more power available to them then the FBI. If you have a fishing license or hunting license your freezer is open to search at anytime. All they need is a reasonable cause to search you property and being without a warrant. An anonimous phone call is reason enough. Unless you have something to hide you have no trouble with the Game Warden ( Officer, as there is only 1 Warden per county) These guys will help you more then not.
I do appreciate the Game wardens we do need them, But walking out to the locations while men are setting at there blinds and tree stands, That is about as Rude as the goverment can get. The hunters today spend a lot of money to go hunting and really dont need for the Game Wardens to go out and ruin the Hunt,that the Hunter has been long waiting for. The Game Wardens just need to wait when the men get back to there Truck or Camp and then ask for licsens. I really feel that Game Wardens are much needed But those type of Action's is a bunch of Crap.
Dallas,TX
Can you not use a rifle, or do people just prefer them to the terrain? And out of the 5 years I've been hunting and all the other time I've spent in the woods I've seen 1 game warden... guess we dont have too many compared to Ohio
wouldn't it suck to be hunting and have a warden walk up to your stand and disturb all the deer? just not right.
I am an Ohioan and have been bow and shotgun hunting for many years. I have noticed alot of people saying how mad they would be if this guy walked up on their tree stand. I thought I would let you know what opening day of Ohio shotgun is like. The majority of these shotgun "hunters" spend less than a few days in the woods all year. they do no scouting unless it is a trail cam. Couldn't hit water if they were shooting from the beach, they trespass, use radios, take unethical shots, shoot from and across the road, use vehicles/ATV to chase and track. It is normal to see 15 guys surround a few acre woods and none of them have permission then trample the entire habitat while blasting anything that moves and leaving a trail of beer cans. Typically these type of hunters are also the biggest braggerts even though they put in the least amount of time and skill. This game warden has a tough job during ohio shotgun week.
How would you feel if you walked out to your tree stand you have been in since September only to find a trespassing shotgun hunter sitting in it while his 10 buddies are trampling through the woods you have been scouting and hunting all year. That is not right. Maybe that is why the game warden is walking out to these blinds and stands to check permision and licenses.
I pretty sure this officer isn't just walking up on hunters for no reason. The pictures make is look that way, but he's either called out to each location or is following up on old incidents or enforcing problematic areas. I've never been bothered during a hunt, public or private.
That would really piss me off if a game warden came up to my blind or stand in the morning, during my hunt, opening day or any day. That's BS.
The problem is, you really don;t have much of choice but to be bite your lip, or the officer can rally ruin your day if wants to. He wears the badge, and has the power. You will never win by arguing or being a jerk to a LEO.
I hunt in western with both my bow and muzzleloader, I do this because of the fact that it can be used both during shotgun and muzzleloader season, I would rather see a game warden in my woods than a bunch of law defying idiots who hunt where they want because the game warden doesn't check for illegal activity They are a necessary part of any type of game management especially where there is a lesser deer population than places like southeast ohio. By the way for those wondering during gun season you can only hunt with certain pistols and either a shotgun or muzzleloader. Thanks.
In Colorado, the law is quite clear with regards to entering private property to check a hunting license: Any law enforcement officer (not just game wardens) can enter private property to check a hunting or fishing license at any time. Of course, they're going to have to show that there was somebody hunting or fishing when they did it.
If you think about it, a warden has a tough job. Think of the fact that everyone you arrest is going to have a gun.
In fifty years of hunting in Mississippi, I have only seen two game wardens in the field while hunting, one was at a dove shoot, the other was on a small public road near an access trail. He sure was disappointed when I stopped 100 yds from the road right of way and unloaded my rifle.
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What do you think of walking up to a treestand or blind and asking to see ID? I'm not a fan of this at all. I'd say this guy is way out of line.
I hope that he is walking up to these blinds, and stands on state propery. There is no reason for a Conservation Officer to disrupt a hunt on private property without due cause, or he sees an illegal act in process.
Public or private land, I would be very upset if for no reason a Conservation Officer walked up on my stand I had legally scouted, placed a stand, and was hunting in prime-time hours, possibly ruining my chance on a Buck I had been watching for months! As another reader commented, please get me on my way in, or coming out. I realize Officers are short handed, but walking up on every orange vest will just make people hunt in camo!
Yeah, I appreciate what all game wardens do. But approaching a treestand on opening day just to check ID or license? That doesn't fly. If there's cause or someone is headed out of the woods, it's one thing.
I wanted to be a game warden when I was a kid but here in CO we have never had a game warden barge in a stand like shown in the pictures here talk about ruining a hunt or a stand.
If an officer came to my stand just to check my license I would be EXTREMELY pissed. No reason for it. Talk about ruining your set up. Check me b4 I go in or when I come out. No class at all.
Ok maybe I was just making an assumption, that every state has rapid fire idiots. I have only hunted in Ohio and Nebraska so I am drawing from that experience. I have heard on a couple of occations more then three shots in a row as well. Another assumption could be that there is a group of people driving deer, none of which could hit the broadside of a barn, hence multiple shots. I would hate to think that a large majority of the state is comprized of people who are unethical and aid in giving us ethical hunters a bad name. It is already hard enough to try to find somewhere to hunt. I also agree that if a wildlife officer walked up to me in a treestand for no other reason but to check my gun and permit I would be FURIOUS, but if what you say is true and there is a large majority of people hunting beyond ohio's regulations I would welcome it simply to get the "undesirables" off the land and make more room for those of us who do things right.
Mr. Miller seems a lot friendlier towards hunters than the fellows on Wild Justice. The guys on the show seem very wary of hunters, but I guess that's one of the many great things about not living in California.
what is with everyone shooting themselves?
Is the officer patrolling public land or private. If this is private land it seems he is breaking a few freedoms in the constitution. Many of the situations would be very similar to a cop searching your house because you were outside. In Michigan we had a very important ruling a few years ago to protect our rights.
I do not think that the Warden should distrub anyone's hunt by checking for license, orange color, etc. unless the Warden has reason to suspect an illegal activity. Here in Texas, the Game Warden have more legal authority than any law enforcement agency in the state. But, too many of us have to pay a lot of money to hunt and may only get to hunt white-tail deer once or twice in a lifetime, and to have a Warden screw up that hunt when I am doing everything legally would piss me off and make me very unfriendly, uncooperative, and unsupportive towards any Warden. I'm a Red-neck, retired military, and disabled vet. An incident like those in this story would make my blood boil and I'm stupid enough to go to Austin, TX each and every time the Dept of Parks and Wildlfe has an open meeting to fight the Wardens on whatever laws that wanted to change. I have always preached religion and sportsmenship to my grandsons, but with the current administration in D.C., it may soon come down to bare kinuckles to protect our 2nd Amendment. I'm just about sick and tired of the lawyers, judges, and politicians not having any common sense who are only out to line their pockets with my tax dollars.
I am very glad to see him doing his job. Being a game warden is often a thankless job and I appreciate his willingness to do it. That said, I would not be very happy if I had him stomping around under my stand on opening morning.
I would assume these actions took place on state property. I'm not sure what the regulations are in Ohio but I know in Wisconsin, public property, you're not allowed to leave blinds or treestands out overnight, and ground blinds must have a certain amount of orange around the perimeter for safety precautions.
At least he is catching people in the wrong, We need some officers around here like that because we have so many people shooting out of their vehicles off of the road and in to where we hunt.
You are generalizing and I don't think it is fair. I am a Ohioan, I don't run around with a 8 round shotgun, or a 44 scoped mag. I would bet there are plenty of people in your state that "take as many shots as they can rattle off".
I live and hunt in Ohio, usally hunt southern OH for gun because it is overcrowded in northern OH, example williams co. if your deer does not drop in front of you expect the next couple hunters who are close enough to lite it up and then argue over what little meat is left, sad but true
I have met a couple of the wardens in the photos. They patrol the areas I hunt. For one person they have entirely too much area to cover.
My understanding of Ohio law is that a landowner may hunt on his own property without a hunting license. That would mean all these "stops" for hunting must be on private property. It was nice that they tagged the deer at the camp and made it easier for those hunters.
I hope that ground blind was on public land. Who wants the game warden or anyone for that matter bothering them on opening morning of season & ruining their chances. I know many people that are feed up with that type of behavior from ODNR employees. I've had landowners in our rural area saying they don't want them on their land unless they called for a problem. Most times they do a decent job & treat you fairly if you are honest/law-abiding. Hunter Jim from Ohio
Wow! I have heard of these guys doing stuff like this but had never seen it first hand. This guy truly hates hunters with a passion. No wonder they say it's a thankless job, who would thank him for ruining your hunt.
You know,if you don't do anything illegal they are the greatest guys in the woods. I have been checked and never had even a rude officer. There is a bunch of poaching down in Southeast Ohio. And poachers don't care. These guys have a tough job to do with many,many hours. Not to mention running into some crazy person with a gun in his hands. I respect them and what they do. As for going on to private property. They has more power available to them then the FBI. If you have a fishing license or hunting license your freezer is open to search at anytime. All they need is a reasonable cause to search you property and being without a warrant. An anonimous phone call is reason enough. Unless you have something to hide you have no trouble with the Game Warden ( Officer, as there is only 1 Warden per county) These guys will help you more then not.
I do appreciate the Game wardens we do need them, But walking out to the locations while men are setting at there blinds and tree stands, That is about as Rude as the goverment can get. The hunters today spend a lot of money to go hunting and really dont need for the Game Wardens to go out and ruin the Hunt,that the Hunter has been long waiting for. The Game Wardens just need to wait when the men get back to there Truck or Camp and then ask for licsens. I really feel that Game Wardens are much needed But those type of Action's is a bunch of Crap.
Dallas,TX
wouldn't it suck to be hunting and have a warden walk up to your stand and disturb all the deer? just not right.
I am an Ohioan and have been bow and shotgun hunting for many years. I have noticed alot of people saying how mad they would be if this guy walked up on their tree stand. I thought I would let you know what opening day of Ohio shotgun is like. The majority of these shotgun "hunters" spend less than a few days in the woods all year. they do no scouting unless it is a trail cam. Couldn't hit water if they were shooting from the beach, they trespass, use radios, take unethical shots, shoot from and across the road, use vehicles/ATV to chase and track. It is normal to see 15 guys surround a few acre woods and none of them have permission then trample the entire habitat while blasting anything that moves and leaving a trail of beer cans. Typically these type of hunters are also the biggest braggerts even though they put in the least amount of time and skill. This game warden has a tough job during ohio shotgun week.
How would you feel if you walked out to your tree stand you have been in since September only to find a trespassing shotgun hunter sitting in it while his 10 buddies are trampling through the woods you have been scouting and hunting all year. That is not right. Maybe that is why the game warden is walking out to these blinds and stands to check permision and licenses.
the guy in pic no.5 had a shotgun with a extended magizine
the officer is actually a really cool guy i got to meet him.
Didn't look at the pics, but does anyone know that officers get moved, relocated because of threats to their lives? Happens a lot. Add it all up, and why I gave up hunting with a rifle. Way too many crazy's out there for me.
I'll bet that the guys with a slug in his foot and .44 in the thigh will be somewhat more careful in the future. Or not.
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What's wrong with a scopped .44 mag.? it's a legal firearm for deer hunting in Ohio.
Personally,I use an old model 370 Winchester single shot 3" mag 20 gauge (no scope) for ohio gun season.
I mostly hunted in NE Ohio this years gun season,on public land,saw the DNR guys twice,and they were checking tags and guns at the parking areas,and checking to see that deer being dragged back had been tagged with the temporary tag,I saw them at two different areas-West Branch,and Ladue,which used to be city of Akron water supply lands. They did not seem to be bothering hunters who wre hunting,they were checking those coming in or out of the areas. Earlier,in early Nov.when bow-hunting, I saw the DNR game wardens in the woods a few times,they never did more than wave,and keep going. The day after the pheasant releases,they were in the field,checking licenses,and making sure no one had more than 2,or had hens.
Maybe there have been more problems in the southern part of Ohio?
Even though a warden's job is difficult and could be hazardous at times, It realy messes up a good hunting trip when he walks up to a man hunting from a tree stand. There should be another way and probably are ways to accomplish the same task. Two years ago an officer "drove 'up to my tree stand, I just gave up and went home for the day... They normaly don't do that here andI thought it was uncalled for.
I know mr bullard,and knox is like 10miles fom here
"I've had landowners in our rural area saying they don't want them on their land unless they called for a problem."..... most wardens I know don't go on private land during a hunt unless there is a reported problem or they suspect a problem. They are just wayyyy to busy down here in the south.
Not south Ohio ..... Dixie!
Can you not use a rifle, or do people just prefer them to the terrain? And out of the 5 years I've been hunting and all the other time I've spent in the woods I've seen 1 game warden... guess we dont have too many compared to Ohio
I pretty sure this officer isn't just walking up on hunters for no reason. The pictures make is look that way, but he's either called out to each location or is following up on old incidents or enforcing problematic areas. I've never been bothered during a hunt, public or private.
That would really piss me off if a game warden came up to my blind or stand in the morning, during my hunt, opening day or any day. That's BS.
The problem is, you really don;t have much of choice but to be bite your lip, or the officer can rally ruin your day if wants to. He wears the badge, and has the power. You will never win by arguing or being a jerk to a LEO.
I hunt in western with both my bow and muzzleloader, I do this because of the fact that it can be used both during shotgun and muzzleloader season, I would rather see a game warden in my woods than a bunch of law defying idiots who hunt where they want because the game warden doesn't check for illegal activity They are a necessary part of any type of game management especially where there is a lesser deer population than places like southeast ohio. By the way for those wondering during gun season you can only hunt with certain pistols and either a shotgun or muzzleloader. Thanks.
In Colorado, the law is quite clear with regards to entering private property to check a hunting license: Any law enforcement officer (not just game wardens) can enter private property to check a hunting or fishing license at any time. Of course, they're going to have to show that there was somebody hunting or fishing when they did it.
If you think about it, a warden has a tough job. Think of the fact that everyone you arrest is going to have a gun.
In fifty years of hunting in Mississippi, I have only seen two game wardens in the field while hunting, one was at a dove shoot, the other was on a small public road near an access trail. He sure was disappointed when I stopped 100 yds from the road right of way and unloaded my rifle.
in pic 14 the one deputy in fron t is my uncle
i want to be a game warden so bad
I'm an Ohioan and that's how I know. I didn't say everyone did anything. I said the density of idiots might be higher than elsewhere.
I've hunted many states and have never heard as much rapid fire as I do here. I hear far more than the legal 3 rounds. All the time. Those are the scum I'm talking about. I'll go ahead lump in this out of shape warden with his out of line stand approaches, too.
I should say I'm not really an Ohioan, I just happen to live here now.
Aferraro, I agree. It's out of line if nothing looked illegal. Roads are mostly public too, but we sure as hell don't get pulled over just to get our ID's checked.
In any case, Ohio might just have the highest stupidity and scum density in the nation. Not only is an unplugged shotgun that can hold more than 3 shells illegal, one with an extended magazine is just insanity. The guy in photo number five should be locked up. What an idiot. It should take one shot, but many Ohioans think it should take as many as you can rattle off before the deer runs out of sight.
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