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B&C Confirms Wade Ward's 188-Inch Typical Oklahoma State-Record Archery Buck

B&C Confirms Wade Ward's 188-Inch Typical Oklahoma State-Record Archery Buck

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from Osage002 wrote 2 years 25 weeks ago

Why is it legal to hunt over a feeder in Oklahoma? It seems to me that it is way to easy to kill deer when you have them baited right to you with corn from a feeder.

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from ableskeever wrote 2 years 25 weeks ago

Great buck!

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from olinger302 wrote 2 years 25 weeks ago

Amazing deer! Congratulations!

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from Basheer Benhalim wrote 2 years 25 weeks ago

I have hunted over feeders and not, all I can say is the challenge of a deer being that close to you is still the same. So while I understand both sides of the argument if hunting with a feeder is what you like. Go ahead and do it.

Regardless that's an amazing buck!!! One heck of a story and anyone would be proud to have taken him...

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from BuckWhistleWorksBest wrote 2 years 24 weeks ago

188" Typical Oklahoma State Record Archery Buck*

* Taken under a feeder

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from tomlightfield wrote 2 years 24 weeks ago

I have mixed thoughts on this deal. If this were legal in Illinois, I don't know if I would be half tempted or not. But sitting 15 yards from a "food bowl" hardly qualifies as "hunting hard" as this guy says. Still a magnificent deer!!!

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from ohiodeerhunter wrote 2 years 24 weeks ago

Great deer.

As for the feeder/baiting issue,while I personally don't hunt over bait,though I did try it one season,when a deer is close enough for an archery shot,and eating from a pile of corn,or whatever is being dropped from a feeder,it's extra wary,and super alert for any slight movement-at least that's how Ohio deer reacted.
I usually manage to get deer as good or better than the guys around here who do hunt over bait,it's more about scouting,timing,and stand location-in my opinion.

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from stickandstring wrote 2 years 24 weeks ago

I'm jealous, that is for sure. However, I dont consider cross bows archey tackle. Telescopic sights, rifle stocks with triggers is not bows and arrows.

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from bruce pyle wrote 2 years 24 weeks ago

i've taken good deer over corn, not over corn & with selfbow, recurve, compound, crossbow & rifle. if i wanted a real challenge, i would quit my job and start preaching the gospel. it's not the equiptment it's the man behind it. GOOD JOB WADE

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from mesarich wrote 2 years 24 weeks ago

Wow people, jealous much? Tell me you pure hunters who would not dream of using a feeder, do you hunt watering holes? How about under oak trees? Around corn fields? Do you use scent block? How about doe in heat? Hunting is what you make of it. I do not use feeders, but have no problem with those that do. As for crossbows, my dad had a bad shoulder and had to use one, believe me it is still archery, it is not like using a gun. Some of these comments make me a little ashamed to call some of you fellow hunters.

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from olinger302 wrote 2 years 24 weeks ago

I know where you are coming from mesarich. My dad was rear ended and due to whiplash his neck and shoulders couldn't handle the force of a gun or a compound and he can only hunt with a crossbow now.

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from fishrmn100 wrote 2 years 24 weeks ago

I don't think I would like to hunt a baited site. I prefer to take a slow walk and enjoy my time away. Fallen acorns, as far as I'm concerned isn't bait. The trees are here and do what they do naturally. The acorns aren't concentrated and are spread out around the landscape. They aren't placed to entice deer to come to me. I prefer to hunt in the true sense.

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from Kris24 wrote 2 years 24 weeks ago

I can count about 7-8 guys "more holy than thou" above preaching about how they wouldnt hunt over a feeder. At the same time if you knew you had a crack at a state record (188 inch typical-buck of a lifetime) by doing so I am pretty sure there are 7-8 guys that would jump on in. I am also thinking some of the folks above saying they dont hunt over feeders or bait probably arent allowed to by law. I am sure there are some out there that wouldnt, no matter what, but I believe that some say they wouldnt when in all truth if it came down to it....they would!

Now for the true question...."How many folks/hunters would prefer a deer like the one above to die of old age and be lost in the woods forever?" People lose sight that we hunt for food. That is what hunting was always about. People dont mean to, I dont think, but they forget that fact. What I am getting at is this...if a hunter is trying to feed his family and throwing some corn or rice bran on the ground will get deer within range for him to harvest then he would be stupid not to. I assure you that he wouldnt be thinking my hungry family probably wouldnt want me shooting this deer from under a feeder. Regardless...I am a hunter and I prefer to do whatever it takes (legally) to kill what I am after, and when it comes to big bucks I prefer to have them hung on the wall to enjoy for years and years to come rather than have some buzzard or coyote tear away at their body never to be seen by a human again.

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from ableskeever wrote 2 years 24 weeks ago

I don't know about up north, but down here there is a lot of competition at the feeders with the hogs. Deer won't go near the hogs. Couple that with the fact that with the over abundance of food in the thick woods around here (east Texas), you'd never really see anything while they're busy over-populating the area.

Any of the holier than thou's out there should try carving themself a spear and taking down a deer bare naked before they knock anyone down for using another method.

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from chevymanar wrote 2 years 24 weeks ago

I will say this... those people from the midwest that hunt over corn fields and other man-made "food plots" have no room to talk.

As for him using a crossbow, come on people don't be so ignorant.

Congrats to the man and what an awesome buck!

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from ScotFerg wrote 2 years 24 weeks ago

I've hunted over a cornfield before....in Illinois. It wasn't "all that". I heard that when they cut the corn, it can be awesome. But, not in my experience. Even though most of the fields were already cut, there was still food in lots of other places.

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from Donkeylegjohnson wrote 2 years 24 weeks ago

Get used to the crossbow thing, it's the trend and it's spreading like wild fire. Yeah hey have more options with scopes and other things, but they're big and bulky. And when did this turn into an opinion blog, the guy shot a monster and has an article about it in field n stream. Get over yourselves. Great deer! Good luck to you in the future Ward.

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from dbarry wrote 2 years 24 weeks ago

Jealous? Absolutely. Those guys hunt deer only with a rock in hand. Up high in a tree. Jump down quick and bash-em in the head.

mesarich- right on buddy. Geez, you use a recurve? Come on, how fair is that? Compound bow? My 10 year old can shoot a pie plate with one of those at 25 yards after not holding one since late last fall... You guys that use percussion, that is just a fad, it will never catch on. My flintlock makes me wake up each morning knowing I'm better than all of you... Holy crap, you drove a truck to your favorite hunting spot? I got there with a square wheel and a cave man costume. ok, I'm getting carried away...

Very nice deer Mr Ward. Congrats. Even though all of us aren't able to say it, we love that beautiful buck you harvested. Good job!

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from steve182 wrote 2 years 24 weeks ago

That's a heck of a nice buck.

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from Osage002 wrote 2 years 24 weeks ago

Wow you people all I did was ask a simple question and you all blew it way out of proportion. I'm from Missouri and it is illegal to hunt over feeders and I didn't even know that it was legal in any state ao i asked why it was legal in OK and not other states because im pretty sure even our State officals will agree that it is too easy to kill a deer ofer corn or else it would be legal for us as well. All I wanted to know was a simple answer and every one gets defensive.

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from Paula Coyle wrote 2 years 24 weeks ago

If it is so easy to hunt deer over a feeder tell me why he had to wait until almost the end of the season to get a shot?

The only thing I have a problem with about hunting over a feeder is that it could possibly facilitate the communication of disease. But that isn't that likely with a feeder that spreads the food around much like you'd get with piles of acorns scattered under an oak tree.

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from Deerslayer_99 wrote 2 years 24 weeks ago

What a great deer! To hear that he came from close to public land right down the street from me is amazing. Congrats, Wade!

Seems this article has become a discussion about the ethics of hunting baited deer and calling a crossbow 'archery equipment', something me and my buddies discuss a lot, so guess I'll add my two..

I don't know why people try to defend it so vehemently, but regardless of how you rationalize it, shooting a baited deer is much easier than throwing a stand on your back, walking into the woods, and dragging a buck back out with you--using only your hunting skills and knowledge of your quarry to get close enough to arrow a deer. Last year, I took my work buddy hunting in a tower blind that was just downwind of a corn feeder and he shot a 100" 8 point and could've shot numerous does his first hunt--without having a clue what he was doing and only having shot a crossbow the first time the day before. He was shooting, though, not hunting; put him out in the middle of the deer woods and he doesn't know an acorn tree or huntable terrain feature from a Starbucks (We are working on that though and he's getting the bug big time).

Shooting a crossbow accurately and consistently takes less dedication/practice and is much easier than a compound (which takes less and is much easier than a recurve/long bow). My six year old was keeping a 3" group at 50 yards in 15 minutes with a crossbow. You can shoot it with a rest. You don't have to move to draw and risk spooking a deer (big part of bow hunting is drawing while a deer is 30ish yards away). It's simply easier why argue about it?

Those facts really are undisputable. However, whether hunting over corn with a crossbow is ethical is up to the individual hunter and sanctimonious holier-than-thous should pat themselves on the back quietly.

Crossbows being lumped in with archery equipment is kind of a sore spot for me, though, I'm sure the traditionalists felt the same way with the advent and legalization of compounds. Compounds still require a person to draw and release an arrow and within a short time period, which, as I mentioned before, is a huge part of bowhunting. Sitting with a cocked, rested, scoped, crossbow takes a lot (albeit not all) of the challenge. If someone wants to use a crossbow, go, go, go, but I think the equipment shouldn't be able to be used to usurp or set official records in the archery category. Like (not exactly, only a similarly) fishing records using jug and trot lining, call it 'unrestricted' or some such. I do like that it allows those unable to hunt with compounds the opportunity to enjoy the sport but still think any record categories should be separate, it is just too different to be considered 'archery equipment'. It'd be like giving a baseball player the homerun record when he was using a fungo or metal bat and everyone else was using wood. The wildlife department should have made that call then there wouldn't be so much discussion.

I understand it's a choice, and legal, and everyone can jump on board if they want, but it's different enough that it wouldn't be the same sport for me or most that I've talked with about it.

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from Buckmaster909 wrote 2 years 24 weeks ago

Great deer. He should be glad he killed it, and not have to worry about sour pusses like you, being all jealous, and making him feel bad about killing it. Thats right, you dont care that he baited it, your just jeulous, becase you didnt kill the deer. Why has deer hunting come to this crap!!!!!

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from Deerslayer_99 wrote 2 years 24 weeks ago

Ha! Jealous? You bet! Trying to make Mr. Wade feel bad? Hold on a minute, friend. My first comment congratulated the hunter on his awesome deer..next time you should read first, formulate your conclusion, ask your wife/hubby or buddy if it's sensible, then reply. My later comments have nothing to do with Mr. Wade or his buck..people love to jump at the chance to be the righteous one in the room. If you'll read what I wrote, baiting is an interesting discussion and I said it is up to the individual as to how he/she feels, not sanctimounious-types to judge for them. I never said it's wrong or unethical or otherwise, I've taken deer over corn with a rifle from a tower blind called The Hilton (complete with bathroom and wi-fi) and am very proud of them. Was it easier than deer I've taken with a bow on an OK WMA? Sure, and I can admit that, why not? I'm not apologizing for it and don't feel bad, it was an enjoyable hunt that added tasty venison to the freezer. That's the point I was making about baiting; don't bother saying it's not generally easier otherwise you've compromised your credibility. That, however, doesn't mean it's not fair or ethical--that's an individual choice.

I'm not really interested in the baiting 'de-bait', and am not criticizing anyone, read a little more carefully next time, or have someone interpret for you, before flinging accusations.

Cheers and good hunting!

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from Nic Meador wrote 2 years 24 weeks ago

u, I'm pretty sure the State record is 194 even,
http://www.fieldandstream.com/pages/new-oklahoma-state-record-whitetail

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from waterfoulhunter82 wrote 2 years 24 weeks ago

thats a big buck

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from J.j. Beal wrote 2 years 23 weeks ago

I can say from hunting in Northern Oklahoma for over 10 years, feeders are not as easy as you think. I have had 5 feeders on my 275 acre lease for the past 4 years. 1500 pounds of corn a year. I have never killed a buck bigger than a 4 point within 100 yards of a feeder. In Kansas, Nebraska, Iowa, and most other midwest states, all of the hunting shows boast hunters hunting over corn, soy bean, alfalfa, or some other crop or hunting a pinch point between a crop and an bedding area. In Northeast Oklahoma it is cattle country and not the right soil for crops. What is the difference in hunting a corn field or a corn feeder? Trust me the bucks do not go around the feeders very often! I use mine to keep the does in the area for the rut and do not even hunt around them when looking for a big boy during November. That is an awesome buck for Oklahoma. I have some 140" bucks on trail cam, but nowhere near a feeder.

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from J.j. Beal wrote 2 years 23 weeks ago

As far as crossbows, I hunt with both a compound and a crossbow. I do however have to say it is easier to take a deer with a crossbow than a compound. I can hold a softball size pattern at 50 yards with my Excalibur 225 pound pull crossbow. I think P&Y should be for a true bow and put the crossbow records in with B&C. That is just my opinion. I will still hunt with my crossbow everytime out during archery season unless I travel to a state where they are prohibited.

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from J.j. Beal wrote 2 years 23 weeks ago

Given unlimited financial resources, all of this is pointless. Go to Rio Rojo outfitters or some of the other highly managed ranches around for a 5 day hunt for $3500 to $5000. They guarantee a shot at a 140" deer or larger. That is easy!!! I am reluctant to do that because that would not mean as much to me. I would rather get a 140" buck on my lease, where I go sometimes without seeing a deer for a whole weekend than to get a 160" with an outfitter where I saw 40 deer a day. That is just me. I love to be in the woods and after 3 years of not having a chance at a big buck and one pops out, it is worth a lot.

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from Okiedeerhunter wrote 2 years 23 weeks ago

I wonder where did he got this deer from? Did he get it from Foyil, I live close to Foyil and yet I haven't seen a buck that massive before.

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from Okiedeerhunter wrote 2 years 23 weeks ago

I wonder where did he got this deer from? Did he get it from Foyil, I live close to Foyil and yet I haven't seen a buck that massive before.

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from Okiedeerhunter wrote 2 years 23 weeks ago

I wonder where did he got this deer from? Did he get it from Foyil, I live close to Foyil and yet I haven't seen a buck that massive before.

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from HuntinWV wrote 2 years 21 weeks ago

Excellent Buck!! I also agree that crossbow should not be in the same catagory as archery. But as long as its legally taken who cares?? Atleast its not in the hands of a poacher!

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from Tim Orr wrote 1 year 27 weeks ago

whats the difference if you hunt from a feeder or next to a pond or on a corn field either way your hunting deer from a food/water sorce

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from Dakota Craddock wrote 1 year 21 weeks ago

Hunting over a feeder may seem easier but there are elements brought in that don't exist on a normal hunt. Pros and cons to everything. Theres no question spotting and stalking is more fun but both are equally difficult and if you've never hunted over a feeder, just complained about the people who do, shut up and try it then you can complain.

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from sankie13 wrote 1 year 20 weeks ago

I've hunted over feeders and food plots my whole life it's just the way we've always done it. However, I haven't taken that many deer either, they don't just stroll up to it and eat from your hand. Plenty of days go by and I don't see anything under the feeder. If you hunt over a corn crop or planted a food plot that's the same thing. Hunting over acorns that have fallen to the ground putting out scent those are all baiting. I enjoy hunting over a feeder but it doesn't make it any easier, I've eaten plenty of tags.

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from mesarich wrote 2 years 24 weeks ago

Wow people, jealous much? Tell me you pure hunters who would not dream of using a feeder, do you hunt watering holes? How about under oak trees? Around corn fields? Do you use scent block? How about doe in heat? Hunting is what you make of it. I do not use feeders, but have no problem with those that do. As for crossbows, my dad had a bad shoulder and had to use one, believe me it is still archery, it is not like using a gun. Some of these comments make me a little ashamed to call some of you fellow hunters.

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from Kris24 wrote 2 years 24 weeks ago

I can count about 7-8 guys "more holy than thou" above preaching about how they wouldnt hunt over a feeder. At the same time if you knew you had a crack at a state record (188 inch typical-buck of a lifetime) by doing so I am pretty sure there are 7-8 guys that would jump on in. I am also thinking some of the folks above saying they dont hunt over feeders or bait probably arent allowed to by law. I am sure there are some out there that wouldnt, no matter what, but I believe that some say they wouldnt when in all truth if it came down to it....they would!

Now for the true question...."How many folks/hunters would prefer a deer like the one above to die of old age and be lost in the woods forever?" People lose sight that we hunt for food. That is what hunting was always about. People dont mean to, I dont think, but they forget that fact. What I am getting at is this...if a hunter is trying to feed his family and throwing some corn or rice bran on the ground will get deer within range for him to harvest then he would be stupid not to. I assure you that he wouldnt be thinking my hungry family probably wouldnt want me shooting this deer from under a feeder. Regardless...I am a hunter and I prefer to do whatever it takes (legally) to kill what I am after, and when it comes to big bucks I prefer to have them hung on the wall to enjoy for years and years to come rather than have some buzzard or coyote tear away at their body never to be seen by a human again.

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from stickandstring wrote 2 years 24 weeks ago

I'm jealous, that is for sure. However, I dont consider cross bows archey tackle. Telescopic sights, rifle stocks with triggers is not bows and arrows.

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from ohiodeerhunter wrote 2 years 24 weeks ago

Great deer.

As for the feeder/baiting issue,while I personally don't hunt over bait,though I did try it one season,when a deer is close enough for an archery shot,and eating from a pile of corn,or whatever is being dropped from a feeder,it's extra wary,and super alert for any slight movement-at least that's how Ohio deer reacted.
I usually manage to get deer as good or better than the guys around here who do hunt over bait,it's more about scouting,timing,and stand location-in my opinion.

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from bruce pyle wrote 2 years 24 weeks ago

i've taken good deer over corn, not over corn & with selfbow, recurve, compound, crossbow & rifle. if i wanted a real challenge, i would quit my job and start preaching the gospel. it's not the equiptment it's the man behind it. GOOD JOB WADE

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from olinger302 wrote 2 years 24 weeks ago

I know where you are coming from mesarich. My dad was rear ended and due to whiplash his neck and shoulders couldn't handle the force of a gun or a compound and he can only hunt with a crossbow now.

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from chevymanar wrote 2 years 24 weeks ago

I will say this... those people from the midwest that hunt over corn fields and other man-made "food plots" have no room to talk.

As for him using a crossbow, come on people don't be so ignorant.

Congrats to the man and what an awesome buck!

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from ableskeever wrote 2 years 25 weeks ago

Great buck!

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from olinger302 wrote 2 years 25 weeks ago

Amazing deer! Congratulations!

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from Basheer Benhalim wrote 2 years 25 weeks ago

I have hunted over feeders and not, all I can say is the challenge of a deer being that close to you is still the same. So while I understand both sides of the argument if hunting with a feeder is what you like. Go ahead and do it.

Regardless that's an amazing buck!!! One heck of a story and anyone would be proud to have taken him...

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from ableskeever wrote 2 years 24 weeks ago

I don't know about up north, but down here there is a lot of competition at the feeders with the hogs. Deer won't go near the hogs. Couple that with the fact that with the over abundance of food in the thick woods around here (east Texas), you'd never really see anything while they're busy over-populating the area.

Any of the holier than thou's out there should try carving themself a spear and taking down a deer bare naked before they knock anyone down for using another method.

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from Donkeylegjohnson wrote 2 years 24 weeks ago

Get used to the crossbow thing, it's the trend and it's spreading like wild fire. Yeah hey have more options with scopes and other things, but they're big and bulky. And when did this turn into an opinion blog, the guy shot a monster and has an article about it in field n stream. Get over yourselves. Great deer! Good luck to you in the future Ward.

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from dbarry wrote 2 years 24 weeks ago

Jealous? Absolutely. Those guys hunt deer only with a rock in hand. Up high in a tree. Jump down quick and bash-em in the head.

mesarich- right on buddy. Geez, you use a recurve? Come on, how fair is that? Compound bow? My 10 year old can shoot a pie plate with one of those at 25 yards after not holding one since late last fall... You guys that use percussion, that is just a fad, it will never catch on. My flintlock makes me wake up each morning knowing I'm better than all of you... Holy crap, you drove a truck to your favorite hunting spot? I got there with a square wheel and a cave man costume. ok, I'm getting carried away...

Very nice deer Mr Ward. Congrats. Even though all of us aren't able to say it, we love that beautiful buck you harvested. Good job!

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from Paula Coyle wrote 2 years 24 weeks ago

If it is so easy to hunt deer over a feeder tell me why he had to wait until almost the end of the season to get a shot?

The only thing I have a problem with about hunting over a feeder is that it could possibly facilitate the communication of disease. But that isn't that likely with a feeder that spreads the food around much like you'd get with piles of acorns scattered under an oak tree.

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from Buckmaster909 wrote 2 years 24 weeks ago

Great deer. He should be glad he killed it, and not have to worry about sour pusses like you, being all jealous, and making him feel bad about killing it. Thats right, you dont care that he baited it, your just jeulous, becase you didnt kill the deer. Why has deer hunting come to this crap!!!!!

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from BuckWhistleWorksBest wrote 2 years 24 weeks ago

188" Typical Oklahoma State Record Archery Buck*

* Taken under a feeder

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from tomlightfield wrote 2 years 24 weeks ago

I have mixed thoughts on this deal. If this were legal in Illinois, I don't know if I would be half tempted or not. But sitting 15 yards from a "food bowl" hardly qualifies as "hunting hard" as this guy says. Still a magnificent deer!!!

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from ScotFerg wrote 2 years 24 weeks ago

I've hunted over a cornfield before....in Illinois. It wasn't "all that". I heard that when they cut the corn, it can be awesome. But, not in my experience. Even though most of the fields were already cut, there was still food in lots of other places.

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from steve182 wrote 2 years 24 weeks ago

That's a heck of a nice buck.

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from waterfoulhunter82 wrote 2 years 24 weeks ago

thats a big buck

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from J.j. Beal wrote 2 years 23 weeks ago

I can say from hunting in Northern Oklahoma for over 10 years, feeders are not as easy as you think. I have had 5 feeders on my 275 acre lease for the past 4 years. 1500 pounds of corn a year. I have never killed a buck bigger than a 4 point within 100 yards of a feeder. In Kansas, Nebraska, Iowa, and most other midwest states, all of the hunting shows boast hunters hunting over corn, soy bean, alfalfa, or some other crop or hunting a pinch point between a crop and an bedding area. In Northeast Oklahoma it is cattle country and not the right soil for crops. What is the difference in hunting a corn field or a corn feeder? Trust me the bucks do not go around the feeders very often! I use mine to keep the does in the area for the rut and do not even hunt around them when looking for a big boy during November. That is an awesome buck for Oklahoma. I have some 140" bucks on trail cam, but nowhere near a feeder.

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from J.j. Beal wrote 2 years 23 weeks ago

As far as crossbows, I hunt with both a compound and a crossbow. I do however have to say it is easier to take a deer with a crossbow than a compound. I can hold a softball size pattern at 50 yards with my Excalibur 225 pound pull crossbow. I think P&Y should be for a true bow and put the crossbow records in with B&C. That is just my opinion. I will still hunt with my crossbow everytime out during archery season unless I travel to a state where they are prohibited.

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from J.j. Beal wrote 2 years 23 weeks ago

Given unlimited financial resources, all of this is pointless. Go to Rio Rojo outfitters or some of the other highly managed ranches around for a 5 day hunt for $3500 to $5000. They guarantee a shot at a 140" deer or larger. That is easy!!! I am reluctant to do that because that would not mean as much to me. I would rather get a 140" buck on my lease, where I go sometimes without seeing a deer for a whole weekend than to get a 160" with an outfitter where I saw 40 deer a day. That is just me. I love to be in the woods and after 3 years of not having a chance at a big buck and one pops out, it is worth a lot.

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from HuntinWV wrote 2 years 21 weeks ago

Excellent Buck!! I also agree that crossbow should not be in the same catagory as archery. But as long as its legally taken who cares?? Atleast its not in the hands of a poacher!

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from Deerslayer_99 wrote 2 years 24 weeks ago

What a great deer! To hear that he came from close to public land right down the street from me is amazing. Congrats, Wade!

Seems this article has become a discussion about the ethics of hunting baited deer and calling a crossbow 'archery equipment', something me and my buddies discuss a lot, so guess I'll add my two..

I don't know why people try to defend it so vehemently, but regardless of how you rationalize it, shooting a baited deer is much easier than throwing a stand on your back, walking into the woods, and dragging a buck back out with you--using only your hunting skills and knowledge of your quarry to get close enough to arrow a deer. Last year, I took my work buddy hunting in a tower blind that was just downwind of a corn feeder and he shot a 100" 8 point and could've shot numerous does his first hunt--without having a clue what he was doing and only having shot a crossbow the first time the day before. He was shooting, though, not hunting; put him out in the middle of the deer woods and he doesn't know an acorn tree or huntable terrain feature from a Starbucks (We are working on that though and he's getting the bug big time).

Shooting a crossbow accurately and consistently takes less dedication/practice and is much easier than a compound (which takes less and is much easier than a recurve/long bow). My six year old was keeping a 3" group at 50 yards in 15 minutes with a crossbow. You can shoot it with a rest. You don't have to move to draw and risk spooking a deer (big part of bow hunting is drawing while a deer is 30ish yards away). It's simply easier why argue about it?

Those facts really are undisputable. However, whether hunting over corn with a crossbow is ethical is up to the individual hunter and sanctimonious holier-than-thous should pat themselves on the back quietly.

Crossbows being lumped in with archery equipment is kind of a sore spot for me, though, I'm sure the traditionalists felt the same way with the advent and legalization of compounds. Compounds still require a person to draw and release an arrow and within a short time period, which, as I mentioned before, is a huge part of bowhunting. Sitting with a cocked, rested, scoped, crossbow takes a lot (albeit not all) of the challenge. If someone wants to use a crossbow, go, go, go, but I think the equipment shouldn't be able to be used to usurp or set official records in the archery category. Like (not exactly, only a similarly) fishing records using jug and trot lining, call it 'unrestricted' or some such. I do like that it allows those unable to hunt with compounds the opportunity to enjoy the sport but still think any record categories should be separate, it is just too different to be considered 'archery equipment'. It'd be like giving a baseball player the homerun record when he was using a fungo or metal bat and everyone else was using wood. The wildlife department should have made that call then there wouldn't be so much discussion.

I understand it's a choice, and legal, and everyone can jump on board if they want, but it's different enough that it wouldn't be the same sport for me or most that I've talked with about it.

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from Deerslayer_99 wrote 2 years 24 weeks ago

Ha! Jealous? You bet! Trying to make Mr. Wade feel bad? Hold on a minute, friend. My first comment congratulated the hunter on his awesome deer..next time you should read first, formulate your conclusion, ask your wife/hubby or buddy if it's sensible, then reply. My later comments have nothing to do with Mr. Wade or his buck..people love to jump at the chance to be the righteous one in the room. If you'll read what I wrote, baiting is an interesting discussion and I said it is up to the individual as to how he/she feels, not sanctimounious-types to judge for them. I never said it's wrong or unethical or otherwise, I've taken deer over corn with a rifle from a tower blind called The Hilton (complete with bathroom and wi-fi) and am very proud of them. Was it easier than deer I've taken with a bow on an OK WMA? Sure, and I can admit that, why not? I'm not apologizing for it and don't feel bad, it was an enjoyable hunt that added tasty venison to the freezer. That's the point I was making about baiting; don't bother saying it's not generally easier otherwise you've compromised your credibility. That, however, doesn't mean it's not fair or ethical--that's an individual choice.

I'm not really interested in the baiting 'de-bait', and am not criticizing anyone, read a little more carefully next time, or have someone interpret for you, before flinging accusations.

Cheers and good hunting!

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from Nic Meador wrote 2 years 24 weeks ago

u, I'm pretty sure the State record is 194 even,
http://www.fieldandstream.com/pages/new-oklahoma-state-record-whitetail

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from Okiedeerhunter wrote 2 years 23 weeks ago

I wonder where did he got this deer from? Did he get it from Foyil, I live close to Foyil and yet I haven't seen a buck that massive before.

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from Okiedeerhunter wrote 2 years 23 weeks ago

I wonder where did he got this deer from? Did he get it from Foyil, I live close to Foyil and yet I haven't seen a buck that massive before.

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from Tim Orr wrote 1 year 27 weeks ago

whats the difference if you hunt from a feeder or next to a pond or on a corn field either way your hunting deer from a food/water sorce

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from Dakota Craddock wrote 1 year 21 weeks ago

Hunting over a feeder may seem easier but there are elements brought in that don't exist on a normal hunt. Pros and cons to everything. Theres no question spotting and stalking is more fun but both are equally difficult and if you've never hunted over a feeder, just complained about the people who do, shut up and try it then you can complain.

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from sankie13 wrote 1 year 20 weeks ago

I've hunted over feeders and food plots my whole life it's just the way we've always done it. However, I haven't taken that many deer either, they don't just stroll up to it and eat from your hand. Plenty of days go by and I don't see anything under the feeder. If you hunt over a corn crop or planted a food plot that's the same thing. Hunting over acorns that have fallen to the ground putting out scent those are all baiting. I enjoy hunting over a feeder but it doesn't make it any easier, I've eaten plenty of tags.

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from Osage002 wrote 2 years 24 weeks ago

Wow you people all I did was ask a simple question and you all blew it way out of proportion. I'm from Missouri and it is illegal to hunt over feeders and I didn't even know that it was legal in any state ao i asked why it was legal in OK and not other states because im pretty sure even our State officals will agree that it is too easy to kill a deer ofer corn or else it would be legal for us as well. All I wanted to know was a simple answer and every one gets defensive.

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from Okiedeerhunter wrote 2 years 23 weeks ago

I wonder where did he got this deer from? Did he get it from Foyil, I live close to Foyil and yet I haven't seen a buck that massive before.

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from fishrmn100 wrote 2 years 24 weeks ago

I don't think I would like to hunt a baited site. I prefer to take a slow walk and enjoy my time away. Fallen acorns, as far as I'm concerned isn't bait. The trees are here and do what they do naturally. The acorns aren't concentrated and are spread out around the landscape. They aren't placed to entice deer to come to me. I prefer to hunt in the true sense.

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from Osage002 wrote 2 years 25 weeks ago

Why is it legal to hunt over a feeder in Oklahoma? It seems to me that it is way to easy to kill deer when you have them baited right to you with corn from a feeder.

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A decision last year by the Oklahoma Department of Wildlife Conservation to extend the whitetail hunting season by two weeks and to allow crossbow hunting for the first time paid off big-time for longtime Foyil deer hunter Wade Ward.

Hunting during a cold snap on January 11, 2011, Ward finally got a shot at a huge 14-pointer he’d been tracking on his trail camera for two years. The buck turned out to be the Sooner State’s third largest typical—and the largest ever taken with archery equipment.

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