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King Buck Exclusive: Inch-by-Inch Breakdown of the World Record that Wasn’t—With Official Score Sheet

King Buck Exclusive: Inch-by-Inch Breakdown of the World Record that Wasn’t—With Official Score Sheet

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from huntnow wrote 1 year 29 weeks ago

I suppose that in all things we must have a way of keeping score. This seems to cheapen the trophy in my opinion though.

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from buckhunter wrote 1 year 29 weeks ago

I wish they would do away with the tip to tip and outside spread measurements. They have never been necessary for score, which is what this is all about.

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from bounty1 wrote 1 year 28 weeks ago

"Breakdown of the World Record that Wasn't". Sounds kind of like the football game Monday night that the Green Bay Packers won, but lost.

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from MOturkey wrote 1 year 28 weeks ago

I am personally disgusted by any scoring system that deducts anything from what the deer has grown that year. Just my personal opinion. :) It just doesn't make sense to me.

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from dneaster3 wrote 1 year 28 weeks ago

To me, this one doesn't pass the amateur eye-ball test... but I guess that is because I haven't been trained and ordained as a magical deer measurer.

It should be scored a typical 12-point (6x6) since (a) the G3 comes straight up out of the top of the main beam, regardless of which side of the top it comes out of, and (b) it looks like one--see picture 6.

This whole charade is analogous to disqualifying the most beautiful Ms America in history because her thumb is double-jointed!

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from Longbeard wrote 1 year 28 weeks ago

I guess "typical" really means "perfect". That judgement on the G3 (the original, God-created, nature-grown G3) seems like splitting hairs to me. This whole process has really opened my eyes to how little scoring should ultimately matter in regard to what a trophy is.

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from OldPhart wrote 1 year 28 weeks ago

It may well be time to loosen the scoring methods for B&C. To rule out a buck such as this on such a minor technicality seems almost absurd . . . I mean look at that beautiful rack . . . it does not appear to be out-of-balance in any way. To disqualify it because a point was 1/4 inch off center is a bit nit-picky don't you think?

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from bounty1 wrote 1 year 28 weeks ago

As far as disqualifing it because a point was 1/4" off center being a bit nit-picky, what the rules are they are. In Alaska a moose rack must be 50" to be legal. If it's 49 3/4" you gonna get a ticket. Nit-picky doesn't matter. With the amount of pride and fame at stake with a world record... Close enough don't cut it.

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from Newt wrote 1 year 28 weeks ago

When reading about this in earlier articles and trying to picture the reason for it not meeting the criteria for "normal", I thought the B&C system was without question, and left no room for interpretation. Maybe that's still the case. Maybe it's that I think their rules are too critical, but after seeing pictures, it really seems like to me, that this buck was legitimate (regardless if the new owner of the buck had more opportunity for monetary gain if the buck was crowned the new world record).

To receive deductions based on the center of the tine in relation to the main beam seems overly critical. Maybe it's because I haven't been schooled in the master art of B&C scoring. I'm simple folk and it seems to me that if it has a matching counterpart on the other side, it shouldn't be counted as "abnormal".

It makes me realize that the only bucks they want at the top of their books are, as Longbeard says, "the original, God-created, nature grown" perfect buck. And to think I was unbiased (if even leaning toward B&C) before seeing this story.

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from dudleyhow wrote 1 year 28 weeks ago

I can see no reason not to count the so-called abnormal tines. it shouldn't matter if they aren't inline with the others. nit-picky is the word. That rack was God's creation and in noway should the g3's be deducted from the score.The 18 inches should be added back to the score.The B&C people just can't stand it cause it wasn't their buck. In my book it will always be a world record.

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from VAWhiteTailHunt... wrote 1 year 28 weeks ago

"What God has joined together let no man put asunder"..... Seems like lots of people these days have decided they are God and what is right and perfect and if necessary, change the rules of the game to suit. B&C would fit perfectly with the Obama administration. This buck deserves better!

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from hutter wrote 1 year 28 weeks ago

All in the name of money! I think they used the tape measure they gave their wives. You know,the one with an inch or two cut off to make things seem longer.

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from 357 wrote 1 year 27 weeks ago

seems to cheapen the trophy

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from kingofbirds wrote 1 year 26 weeks ago

I am personally disgusted by any scoring system that deducts anything from what the deer has grown that year. www.vogo-tec.com Just my personal opinion. :) It just doesn't make sense to me.

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from fish jay wrote 1 year 4 weeks ago

The score sheet that is posted in this story is not an official score sheet. The only official score sheet on the King Buck is 224 6/8 gross typical and 218 4/8 net typical. The 180 score that is posted was after the original 218 and Jack R at B&C made the scorer change his score. Now 3 25 plus year scorers have been fired by B&C for giving their opinion that it is indeed a typical world record. There is NO rule in B&C that calls those points non typical. I own the antlers and can talk to anyone at anytime at 715-693 -1879, thanks , Jay

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from fish jay wrote 1 year 4 weeks ago

Sorry 2 guys where fired by B&C and 1 by P&Y. Why the P&Y guy got fired over a rifle kill deer is beyond me. To lies have been told and printed over this deer.

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from bounty1 wrote 1 year 28 weeks ago

"Breakdown of the World Record that Wasn't". Sounds kind of like the football game Monday night that the Green Bay Packers won, but lost.

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from Longbeard wrote 1 year 28 weeks ago

I guess "typical" really means "perfect". That judgement on the G3 (the original, God-created, nature-grown G3) seems like splitting hairs to me. This whole process has really opened my eyes to how little scoring should ultimately matter in regard to what a trophy is.

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from bounty1 wrote 1 year 28 weeks ago

As far as disqualifing it because a point was 1/4" off center being a bit nit-picky, what the rules are they are. In Alaska a moose rack must be 50" to be legal. If it's 49 3/4" you gonna get a ticket. Nit-picky doesn't matter. With the amount of pride and fame at stake with a world record... Close enough don't cut it.

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from huntnow wrote 1 year 29 weeks ago

I suppose that in all things we must have a way of keeping score. This seems to cheapen the trophy in my opinion though.

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from buckhunter wrote 1 year 29 weeks ago

I wish they would do away with the tip to tip and outside spread measurements. They have never been necessary for score, which is what this is all about.

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from MOturkey wrote 1 year 28 weeks ago

I am personally disgusted by any scoring system that deducts anything from what the deer has grown that year. Just my personal opinion. :) It just doesn't make sense to me.

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from dneaster3 wrote 1 year 28 weeks ago

To me, this one doesn't pass the amateur eye-ball test... but I guess that is because I haven't been trained and ordained as a magical deer measurer.

It should be scored a typical 12-point (6x6) since (a) the G3 comes straight up out of the top of the main beam, regardless of which side of the top it comes out of, and (b) it looks like one--see picture 6.

This whole charade is analogous to disqualifying the most beautiful Ms America in history because her thumb is double-jointed!

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from OldPhart wrote 1 year 28 weeks ago

It may well be time to loosen the scoring methods for B&C. To rule out a buck such as this on such a minor technicality seems almost absurd . . . I mean look at that beautiful rack . . . it does not appear to be out-of-balance in any way. To disqualify it because a point was 1/4 inch off center is a bit nit-picky don't you think?

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from Newt wrote 1 year 28 weeks ago

When reading about this in earlier articles and trying to picture the reason for it not meeting the criteria for "normal", I thought the B&C system was without question, and left no room for interpretation. Maybe that's still the case. Maybe it's that I think their rules are too critical, but after seeing pictures, it really seems like to me, that this buck was legitimate (regardless if the new owner of the buck had more opportunity for monetary gain if the buck was crowned the new world record).

To receive deductions based on the center of the tine in relation to the main beam seems overly critical. Maybe it's because I haven't been schooled in the master art of B&C scoring. I'm simple folk and it seems to me that if it has a matching counterpart on the other side, it shouldn't be counted as "abnormal".

It makes me realize that the only bucks they want at the top of their books are, as Longbeard says, "the original, God-created, nature grown" perfect buck. And to think I was unbiased (if even leaning toward B&C) before seeing this story.

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from dudleyhow wrote 1 year 28 weeks ago

I can see no reason not to count the so-called abnormal tines. it shouldn't matter if they aren't inline with the others. nit-picky is the word. That rack was God's creation and in noway should the g3's be deducted from the score.The 18 inches should be added back to the score.The B&C people just can't stand it cause it wasn't their buck. In my book it will always be a world record.

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from VAWhiteTailHunt... wrote 1 year 28 weeks ago

"What God has joined together let no man put asunder"..... Seems like lots of people these days have decided they are God and what is right and perfect and if necessary, change the rules of the game to suit. B&C would fit perfectly with the Obama administration. This buck deserves better!

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from hutter wrote 1 year 28 weeks ago

All in the name of money! I think they used the tape measure they gave their wives. You know,the one with an inch or two cut off to make things seem longer.

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from 357 wrote 1 year 27 weeks ago

seems to cheapen the trophy

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from kingofbirds wrote 1 year 26 weeks ago

I am personally disgusted by any scoring system that deducts anything from what the deer has grown that year. www.vogo-tec.com Just my personal opinion. :) It just doesn't make sense to me.

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from fish jay wrote 1 year 4 weeks ago

The score sheet that is posted in this story is not an official score sheet. The only official score sheet on the King Buck is 224 6/8 gross typical and 218 4/8 net typical. The 180 score that is posted was after the original 218 and Jack R at B&C made the scorer change his score. Now 3 25 plus year scorers have been fired by B&C for giving their opinion that it is indeed a typical world record. There is NO rule in B&C that calls those points non typical. I own the antlers and can talk to anyone at anytime at 715-693 -1879, thanks , Jay

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from fish jay wrote 1 year 4 weeks ago

Sorry 2 guys where fired by B&C and 1 by P&Y. Why the P&Y guy got fired over a rifle kill deer is beyond me. To lies have been told and printed over this deer.

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