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Big Buck Alert: This Canadian Giant is Likely to be a New Record Typical Whitetail

Big Buck Alert: This Canadian Giant is Likely to be a New Record Typical Whitetail

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from Gary Devine wrote 1 year 17 weeks ago

Canada has some awesome Whitetail bucks. I hunted five times next door to Alberta, in Saskatchewan. Monster deer up there, that weight 250 pounds on up!

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from Bone seeker wrote 1 year 17 weeks ago

Well, yet another guided hunt. Guided hunt trophies need to be put in another catagorie to those of us who hunt trophies on our own merit. I am not taking away the size of this bruiser but we all need to think real hard about these types of hunts and it being allowed iin the general population of hunters and the record books. Maybe I'm old school but I can't be the only one who feels this way.

Congrats on a successful GUIDED hunt.

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from Bone seeker wrote 1 year 17 weeks ago

Btw, great job Aaron (guide) for your grunting and positioning the big buck for the kill shot. Sounds like if you didn't do what you did with your expertise we wouldn't be discussing this post. Ahhh my point exactly

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from scorp wrote 1 year 17 weeks ago

Bone seeker.sounds like sour grapes to me.you go spend the time in Alberta and the cold and see if you can handle it.He was fortunate to see a deer of this caliber let alone shoot it.If he happened to pay for it so be it.At least it was fair chase and not baiting like other provinces or states.

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from Bone seeker wrote 1 year 17 weeks ago

Sorry Scorp but I don't need someone doing my hunting for me. There are many places that do not allow baiting and decoys which would be where I hunt. People go to guides because they can't get it done on their own. The only sour grapes is the fact that guided hunts, managed properties specific to deer hunting and people like you who think it is in the same catagorie as someone who does their own homework to get their trophy. It is not the same and you have zero argument.

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from Bone seeker wrote 1 year 17 weeks ago

Sorry Scorp but I don't need someone doing my hunting for me. There are many places that do not allow baiting and decoys which would be where I hunt. People go to guides because they can't get it done on their own. The only sour grapes is the fact that guided hunts, managed properties specific to deer hunting and people like you who think it is in the same catagorie as someone who does their own homework to get their trophy. It is not the same and you have zero argument.

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from DevinMoore wrote 1 year 17 weeks ago

You cant even buy a tag in alberta unless u go thru an outfitter or are accompanied by a resident.

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from Bone seeker wrote 1 year 17 weeks ago

Shane on Alberta for not letting you guys hunt on your own

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from Bwana Hunter wrote 1 year 17 weeks ago

Hearty congradulations Devin on a truly great Whitetail buck! Also, that vast north country encompassing the area around the town of Slave Lake, Alberta is a real challenge for anyone to hunt in - even for the locals. Bitterly cold temperatures and unforgiving terrain in that enormous expanse of the North American boreal forest up there are sobering reasons for non-resident sportsmen to seek out the services of knowledgeable, quality outfitters like you found in Aaron Franklin of North Alberta Outfitters. Pay no attention to the whiners and ever present Judas'of this world who seek to bad mouth other's legitimate achievements.

As a further matter of interest in the northern Alberta sporting scene, one of the largest grizzlies ever brought down anywhere on the continent was by an Indian woman in the vicinity of Lessor Slave Lake. And the wolves I've seen and hunted myself personally there are some of the biggest brutes of the species found anywhere in the world.

What a truly great place to seek field & stream sporting oppurtunities, but like you mention in your article Devin - come prepared 'Pilgrims'..!

Best/Bwana

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from scorp wrote 1 year 17 weeks ago

You obviously have no idea of what hunting in Alberta is all about bone.Managed properties do not exist in Alberta.By the way where do you hunt Bone?

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from maxevan wrote 1 year 17 weeks ago

Awesome Buck Texas Boy That is what I call a Buck of a "LIFE TIME" Great story & fantastic Pictures .Guide or Not you deserve the credit for taking down that Bruiser.I would have walked that Rack back home to Texas If I had to. My 9/29/2012 non typical 24 pt buck's final net score was 206 4/8 Ohio Big Buck & Boone & Crockett all time world rec Book .He also doesn't get far from my sights .Thanks Devin for sharing your Hunt with Field & Stream .Good Luck in 2013 Texas Boy!!!!

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from Bone seeker wrote 1 year 17 weeks ago

Scorp, I am originally from MN and have hunted in the northern territory of MN for years and I know what cold is. I now hunt in the north eastern US. Look, we all can agree to disagree. I just can't accept a record book deer being taken in A. Managed property specific to hunting whitetail B. Guided hunts where multiple individuals have scouted for you, call wild game for you and have stands/ blinds pre set up for you. Maybe this is the rule in some places but there I guess there are folks like me that just don't agree it can be considered in general record books. What about our fore fathers and ancestors that scouted wild areas on their own, read the land themselves and were successful hunters? This is how I learned from my grand father and uncles who truly understood reading sign, on their own. Look at the Eastman family in Western US, they do mostly their own wild hunts w no guide. I realize some areas require guides but I have seen them take plenty of deer on their own. Record book deer. What about the Benoit family who actually track their deer for hours to get that one shot of a wall hanger? These are the true hunters of old school. TV shows have sensationalized whitetail hunting and it is a game to them. Naming the multiple bucks on their properties and most every hunt is a bruiser taken on camera. It's not real life for those who hunt on public land or who have limited hunting spots or do not own land. I personally can be proud that my wall hangers are public land taken by me personally through a ton of scouting and hard work outsmarting the deer on my own. Thats the only points I am trying to make.

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from Booner1967 wrote 1 year 17 weeks ago

Mr. Bone Seeker,
It is really too bad that you can't congratulate Devin on an incredible hunt. When everyone else is celebrating his accomplishment, you have to find a negative. You are to be commended on the effort you put into your hunts. But that doesn't mean you hunt any harder then anyone else. I'm sorry, but hunting in Canada is different then Minnesota or the Northeast. It just is. Not better or worse, just different. Hunting private or public land is a choice that you have made. So don't hold it against someone who has had the oppurtunity to do things different then you have. No one is talking about a High Fence hunt. So how about a deep breath and a congratulations on a 200+ trophy. Hopefully someday you will have the same class of animal to post pictures of.

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from DevinMoore wrote 1 year 16 weeks ago

Thanks booner and everyone else for congrats. I feel truly lucky to even see a buck of that magnitude. Let alone get it shot. The hunting in canada was the toughest ive ever been around. The section my tag was in was 4000sq mi i believe. Solid timber. Theres no reason for that deer to ever see a human. I wouldnt suggest canada if you think its gonna be a sure thing to shoot a monster, its hunting. And i knew that after the first day. Troy and his staff are great to be around and hunt with and consider them friends on out!! No tellin what his offspring will turn into! Could be the next world record (if anyone is lucky enough to see him). :)

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from Shelby Mahon wrote 1 year 16 weeks ago

Well I'd have to say I agree with Bone Seeker. Congrats to Moore for bagging that monster but to me guides, decoys, and baiting all fall into the same bucket. I'm way prouder knowing I scored my buck on my own, no calls, no scents, nothing, just me waiting patiently in the bush. Nothing against quides, I plan on making a trip to go Caribou hunting some day and would need a guide, but its just not the same as doing it on your own.

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from Daniel Allison wrote 1 year 16 weeks ago

Bone Seeker I agree with you. I also do my own hunting, no scents, bait, feeders, or stands. I hunt by the rules of nature and when I win I have a true sense that I have done something really special on my own. That is a feeling the others can never know and for that I pity them. I would like to hunt in Canada, but alas that is not allowed. They insist that I hire someone to do the hunting for me. It is nice they still will allow me to pull the trigger. I suppose soon they will require that the guide do the shooting also to stop from wounding animals. For a large sum of money I can watch. Merry Christmas and good hunting. Too the rest of you Merry Christmas and good shooting.

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from mrblackshark75 wrote 1 year 16 weeks ago

Nice deer! I knew when I clicked on the page I would see controversy. Never fails with big whitetails. I see alot of guides as like going with your dad or grandad. You just pay them! Talking about regular woods not fences. Never used a guide personally. But , I do plan on considering one when I go to South Dakota next year. In my case, it just seems smart for my first pronghorn/mule deer trip. It's along way from Indiana!

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from jcs9095 wrote 1 year 16 weeks ago

looks like I am going to be arranging a way to go hunting in Alberta, Canada

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from Bone seeker wrote 1 year 16 weeks ago

Bwana, you wouldn't happen to a guide or maybe affiliated with a guide service would you? Just curious as your comments certainly lean that way.
Myself along with many others I assume are done beating a dead horse. Most know where we stand. You pay thousands of dollars for a guided hunt and your chances greatly improve due to the scouting and research already being Done by others well in advance. If a hunter went out into that area of timber for the first time you would be found wondering around for miles not knowing where to go for a good chance to bag a buck. Unless you put the time in yourself. In the article it stated "were ready to settle on a 150 class buck the guide spotted". Settle? How many people can say in their public hunts they would " settle"for a buck of that size?

I think level headed folks understand these points. Devin, I will have to sign off of this thread to say it is a buck of a lifetime and I may have over reached some so don't take it personal for sure. He will be a real great wall hanger.

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from mrblackshark75 wrote 1 year 16 weeks ago

While folks wanna change the record book rules make sure to separate public land, private land, and any other technicality. I can rarely hunt on private land. Are the folks who are so "against" guides hunt strictly public lands? Doubt it. So when you bag that big buck from "Uncle Joe's farm", if it's a record book one, make sure they add an asterisk next to it. Because if you really want it to be 100% recognized, it should be taken where 100% of the hunters can hunt! Until then, WAY TO GO DEVIN!!!

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from Bone seeker wrote 1 year 16 weeks ago

Mrblackshark75, really??? Go back and read through all the comments. Asterisk on uncle joes farm...really? You know where the asterisked will be for many. Now I sign off

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from DevinMoore wrote 1 year 16 weeks ago

I was warned about people like boner seeker after I shot him. All I know is hunting in alberta is very tough and I feel blessed to even get a glimpse of him. It isn't a ranch hunt. It's wilderness. Try it and find out for yourself. U may get lucky and get yourself a big ol buck....... :)

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from Dave Coleman wrote 1 year 16 weeks ago

to all the nay sayers out there and the ones that have a lot to say but cant put there name behind the statement ,,,ive guided for over 45years alberta ,,yukon ,,british columbia ,,north west territories ,,,had my share of success and failure ,,,i complement devin for saying it like it is ,,he worked hard for his money and can spend it where he wants ,,,arron franklin is as nice and sincere a young guide as i have ever met ,,troy foster one of the best outfitters in the business ,,,devin was last man standing on last day at that camp ,,it was tuff ,,going ,,,frozen gun ,,last day pressure,, blowing snow,, cold ,,cold ,,when it comes down to it,, its the guy shooting that has to get it done ,,,so to all,of the nay sayers your crap dont wash,, with this old cowboy ,,,DEVIN MOORE AND ARRON FRANKLIN got the job done together ,,,AND I WAS THERE TO SEE IT ,,,

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from Bone seeker wrote 1 year 16 weeks ago

Check out the potential new MA state record archery this season. Or the big buck in WI, OH or GA. Have you read about the other big bucks? All bucks around the 200" mark. These fellas got it done. See any guides involved? Not sure where the disconnect is fellas.

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from Allan wrote 1 year 16 weeks ago

Nice too see this class of deer come out of the wild good show.that being said I live in slave lake area and hunt in the deep bush my beef with outfitters in general I won't point fingers but lump them all in one,in alberta you can not bait deer for HUNTING BUT you can for photography????? Intro the trail cam and a well patterned deer let the pile disappear before you shoot and its all good.I don't own trail cams neither did Ed Broeder or the other old boys that are being pushed down the line in the books,it's unfair.I have argued with people who use this tactic that if they choose to do it they can fill they're freezer and keep the horns out of the books of course they laugh so I got some wolf scent for when I find these baits works well I find many because I hunt trophies the hard way,lots of bush time,mt wife hates it but I feel proud of every animal I take,these other tactic are unfair,another beef with outfitters are two years in a row now I find big deer sign and maybe even get a peak at a monster early in the year take holidays during the rut only to arrive to a camp of ten or twelve taking over the whole area like a pack of wolves,not nice,one crew even strategically parked a vehicle in every parking spot I still went in while they were still sleeping and shot a decent 170 ,couldn't find my big deer he was on night shift probably after 40 close encounters with an ATV's gimme a break,now after this deer being shot up here it will be worse next season.That being said I don't know if this deer was harvested using these tactics but I will find out stay posted,hunt hard and honestly don't wreck it for the rest of us and those before.DOWN WITH THE WILD CHANNEL.nice deer

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from Bone seeker wrote 1 year 16 weeks ago

Allen, finally someone from the same area bush with common sense. I have a real good feeling my argument is even stronger now. "put meat in the freezer but keep the horns out of it". How true it is! Merry Christmas everyone

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from Allan wrote 1 year 16 weeks ago

Thanks bone seeker,it's a bit of a rant but I would compare these advantages to steroids in sports that just my opinion

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from Bone seeker wrote 1 year 16 weeks ago

Allen, your opinion is well taken. Baseball's hall of fame Barry Bonds found that out the hard way along w many others extra advantages are not acceptable. Same thing here. Just my opinion too

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from Dave Coleman wrote 1 year 16 weeks ago

ALLAN AND MS BONE SEEKER ,,,,LISTENING TO YOU TWO IS LIKE WATCHING A YOUNG PUP CHASE HIS TAIL IN CIRCLES AND THINK HES REALY DONE SOMETHING ,,,OR HAVEING A BATTLE OF WITS WITH AN UNARMED MAN ,,,YOU BOYS ARE FUNNY ,,,BUT MR ALLAN AFTER YOUR DONE PATING YOURSELF ON THE BACK ,,,FOR MESSING UP SOME ONES CAMERA LOCATION ,,,THE BEST WAY TO ATTRACT,, WOLVES ,,,IS LEAVE WOLF SCENT ,,,I GUESS WE CAN ALL FIGURE ,,,WHOS GETTING YOR BIG BUCKS ,,,WOULD BE THE FOUR LEGGED HUNTERS ,,,AND AFTER THE COUNTY AROUND SLAVE LAKE PAIDED OUT BOUNTYS ON 299 WOLVES LAST YEAR ,,,MY CASUAL OBSERVATION IS,, I THINK THE WOLVES ARE DOING VERY WELL ,,,BUT WHY NOT ALLAN IS AIDING AND ABETTING THEM ,,,TO AREAS FREQUENTED BY DEER ,,,GOOD BOY YOURSELF ,,,YOU SURE PULLED A FAST ONE ON THOSE RESIDENT HUNTERS USEING THERE GAME CAMS BECAUSE SOME YOUNG GUY ,,WORKING IN THE OIL PATCH OR BUSTING HIS BUTT LOGGING SO HE CAN PAY ,,,HIS MORGAGE ,,,AND MAKE A LIVEING ,,,, BUT ONLY HAS 5 DAYS TO HUNT ,,IN THE SEASON ,,SO TRYING TO IMPROVE HIS CHANCES ,,,YUP I THINK YOUR WIFE IS ON TO SOMETHING ,,,THERE ALLAN ,,,,

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from Gary Devine wrote 1 year 16 weeks ago

Devin Congrats on a super buck!
I hunted five years in Saskatchewan, over bait, in a blind with a heater and with a guide, who had trail cameras with monster bucks. It not that easy, like taking candy from a baby. Most monster bucks are nocturnal, and their on the move hitting new areas and chasing does in estrus.
It doesn't matter if you have a trophy fish or trophy animal posted on any website, the negative comments will follow afterwards. Like the saying goes, "When your on the top, everybody will take shots at you."

Happy Holidays to all, Gary Devine

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from Allan wrote 1 year 16 weeks ago

Gary,again I say my comment was not to bash Devon but to point out what some consider hunting I don't agree with my dad guided long before the trailcam there were good years and bad now you see outfitters posting 100% success something is wrong,and this is what clients are expecting now,and dave you help my argument on baited cams they bring a lot of deer from a large area and concentrate them in a smaller one ,bringing the predators as well they are very clever u know,I see lots of pics on the net of deer being drug past a cam by wolves or cougars,this is not a coincidence and becoming more common,and most areas I hunt in the wolves were there long before me I know how to attract them I shot one Thursday afternoon ,again this is just my opinion the fact that we keep checking these posts tells me we like to argue and could probably go on forever,ps .there were a lot more cams stolen this year than I scented I wouldn't do that but tells me that there are others that don't like them,because most thieves don't hunt.

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from Bone seeker wrote 1 year 16 weeks ago

MS Coleman, you are obviously defending guide hunters because you are or were a guide for many years. You chose this line of work and you think it is an acceptable way to hunt..now I am talking whitetails here not Elk, caribou, cat hunting or the like. Is it acceptable to bait trail cams? Is it acceptable to set up stands and blinds in many locations because they have paid you to do so? Is it acceptable to do the calling for the hunter? If this is acceptable to you and others than fine. However, there are many other hunters who do not have a beef with outfitters but the beef is when a record buck gets taken by the ways mentioned above than most like me have a problem with it. As Allan said we could go on forever on this issue. Folks just need to accept the fact that guide hunting is fine on principal but the hunter should not get full credit a a booner buck is taken. Sorry but it is what it is.

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from DevinMoore wrote 1 year 16 weeks ago

Thanks for the congrats gary. Im kinda mad aaron didnt have him hog tied so i could shoot him on the first morning. Since thats what boner seeker thinks alberta "guided" hunting is all about..... Lol

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from Backwoods Hunter wrote 1 year 16 weeks ago

The 175 yard shot reminds me of the doe I took at 150 yards this season. She went down like a ton of bricks. (Granted I was using a 30-.06)But otherwise great buck!

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from Dave Coleman wrote 1 year 16 weeks ago

ms bone seeker how did you know i was wearing a kilt ,,hee hee anyways just so you know devin moores biggest reason on entering in SCI is that there entry forms ask is it a guided hunt or non guided ,,and has space for the guide and outfitter if applicable ,, something i can see your unaware of ,,,but no falt,, but best to reserch that,, before you wear your tail out ,,,,,, but power to devin on that ,,,not interested in argueing about any of this as far as im concerned all opions ,,,and preferences ,,, it is christmas soon or maybe we cant say that hee hee ,,surprised anti faction hasnt complained about SANTA HITCHING HIS REINDEER IN HARNESS COULD BE CRUEL ,,,HA ALLEN didnt find any cams in bush ,,where i was guideing and have never found a bait site ,,,but im sure as you say there out there ,,,it saddens me on some of these topics the way everyone has become ,,,WHEN we MADE MONARCHS OF ALBERTA IN THE 80,S AND MANY OTHER MOVIES,,GIANTS OF THE YUKON ,,MAN HUNTER ,,,MOOSE,,,,, ECT,,, ECT I NEVER THOUGHT IT WOULD GET TO THIS ,,,and yes BONE SEEKER i will defend all the guides and outfitters i have great respect for and there are hundreds out there that are very,very ,,professional in fact a friend of mine named jim has a show to that effect ,,he hunted with me a few times,and i was his guide outfitter ,,, 20 years ago ,,,power to him ,,,IM STILL ABLE TO GUIDE 7 MONTHES OF THE YEAR AND HOPE ANOTHER 10 OR MORE ,,,HHEE HHEE ,,ILL BE WELL OVER 70 THEN ,,,,WE CAN TALK THEN MEN SO KEEP YOUR SPURS JINGLEING AND YOUR CINCH TIGHT ,,,,,,OH BETTER REFRAISE THAT,,,,, KEEP YOUR,QUAD GAS TANK FULL AND TIRES INFLATED,,,,,,,,,,,AND TO ALL A GOOD NITE ,,,with a smile goodfun ,,,,,,,DAVE COLEMAN ,,,,

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from Allan wrote 1 year 16 weeks ago

Ah ha I knew you're name sounded familiar just couldn't place it I've seen a couple of those movies that's what I'm talking about hunting the way it should be and still is for me,that's why I have a beef with some of these new tactics,can't stop it but I like to harp on it when someone will listen maybe get more people on my side before they try deer farms or hunting baits in this province ,it's been an honour debating this with a hunting ledgend like yourself. Merry Christmas all. Nice deer

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from Bone seeker wrote 1 year 16 weeks ago

Gentlemen, I have thoroughly enjoyed the spirited discussion. Passion for hunting however you do it is the main reason why we all do what we do. Lets not let this true sport end up being a dying sport. We all can agree to disagree but in the end it's all of us sportsman who will keep this sport of hunting alive. Teach your kids how to hunt because it is up to us....until the next post and spitted discussion!

Ps. Thanks Coleman for the old school input. Nor sure I could have pictured you in a kilt.

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from Bone seeker wrote 1 year 16 weeks ago

Meant spirited discussion! Spitted at first maybe :)

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from Mountain_Hunter wrote 1 year 15 weeks ago

First off, I would like to congratulate Devin and Aaron on their fantastic deer! That is truly a trophy of a lifetime!!! Any man would be happy to have him, guided or not...lets face the truth in those words. Boneseeker...are you telling me that if you were in Devin's shoes, and had killed a world class buck, you would not put it in the record book, because you are honorable and feel that you somehow cheated the system, and that the deer does not deserve to be in those pages because there was a "guide"? Give me a break! Devin and Aaron froze their asses off, made mile after mile in an effort to find a good deer, and it all came down to the wire. Lots of luck was involved, but such is the case with all hunting! His hunt was not in a "managed area" Boneseeker. We keep it real in Alberta. No baiting, no fences. Does it sound like Devon was in a stand either? They were mobile, and went searching for a worthy buck. As a "non-resident alien" from the states, Devin was legally required to go hunt with an outfitter. He chose a good one, and was given a good guide as well! I dont understand why you have such animosity for guided hunts. Give a man some credit where it is due, dont try to knock him down because you are jealous. Guided or not, this deer is world class. Have some sense, and honor the deer if nothing else. A truly magnificent animal like this, deserves to be shared with the world. Whether his life was taken on a guided or self-guided hunt, should not matter. Honor the animal. Put his picture in the record books, and let others say, "Holy crap! Look at that bruiser! I sure hope i can get one like him one day!!!" This is what the record books should instil in people: the desire to get out there and find that next record book animal. To maintain conservation, to stop killing young deer and ruining the gene pools, and consistently take old mature animals that have done their time. I'm sure one day you may get your chance at a good deer Boneseeker, but until then, stop being a Negative Nancy and trying to shoot Devin down because it was "guided". Get over it.

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from Bone seeker wrote 1 year 15 weeks ago

Oh Mtn Hunter oh mtn hunter, you continue to echo the argument . Why oh why do people not understand the argument? Can someone please answer? All of your points are taken and fully understood. It is not the Caliber of animal. It is by the means taken son. 200" deer are taken in deep bush, farmland, north country, deep south etc etc. All by hunters who do not need or require a guide... It is becoming very clear Alberta is an entirely different animal with requiring guides. It is the way there and not in many places. Ask the question...why do people go to a guide? What is the main reason? To attempt
To get a bigger buck than say Oklahoma? Where's the successes of Oklahoma? Not many I am sure and this is why one chose to have someone else do the homework. Please, completely read through the thread and try to understand the argument.

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from Mountain_Hunter wrote 1 year 15 weeks ago

The argument is understood. Its pretty simple: You're jealous, and need to get over it. You're complaint right from the get go is that this animal should have its own section in the record book, separated from "self-guided" deer, because it was not taken solely by Devin. That self-guided animals need to have special recognition. Do you think people really give a crap when they look in the record book whether it was taken while hunting with an outfit, or alone? The dont look at these details, unless they're pessimists. People look at the pictures, the numbers, the hunter's name, and where it came from. When people see that a massive buck was taken from Alberta, of course they will flock here to come try to get the next record! Its in our blood to be competitive! And such is the nature of this argument as well! haha. Yes, its incredibly rewarding to get out and kill a big trophy on your own! Have you ever been on a guided hunt? Obviously not. The rewards of such a hunt are just as great, and the sense of accomplishment the same. You pull that trigger regardless...whether your aim is true or not is ultimately the deciding factor. The nice thing about a guided hunt, is the camaraderie. Devin was able to share this experience of a lifetime with another soul, not selfishly all to himself. I have no doubt Devin could easily have come out to Alberta and found a massive deer all by himself, but as stated, law requires he be guided because he is from outside of the country. Its as simple as that. Devin didnt need someone else to do the homework, they shared that workload and passed the test together with flying colors. +200%!!!

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from Bone seeker wrote 1 year 15 weeks ago

Mtn blunder, where do I start? Look at the bottom of " today on field and stream". If you look through you start to see big bucks taken by average hunters. Have you not thoroughly done your homework? You have stated twice I am jealous and unfortunately for you I am not. On the contrary, I am jealous of bucks taken by folks who didn't require a guide and on their own luck and skill scored a buck vs a guided hunt. Why do we call it a guide? To guide the person who pays money to the intended quarry. Alas, a boner buck. Someday when you.. and the other folk who agree with you...get out of Alberta's trap you MIGHT have a chance to get it. Until then I sign off for the next post to pound my head against a wall. Because obviously pounding my head against a wall is as accurate as arguing with you. Please get out if Alberta and get on an individual hunt...you might like it and be successful!

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from Patriot Bowhunters wrote 1 year 15 weeks ago

Hey it's not about ego, and it's not about showing off -- fact is scouting and hanging stands, getting to areas and getting in bow or gun range of a trophy animal solo is hard work and takes skill and experience to make the kill. Guided hunts do that for you - therefore, there needs to be 2 seperate sections in the record books - paid and self hunts. You pay for someone else to do the work then it's identified, and so is the self taken section. That way these arguments don't exist. Instead - it's simple - the facts are the facts. Let us judge or be judged how we will...

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from DevinMoore wrote 1 year 15 weeks ago

Well said mt hunter. Apparently boner seeker has beat his head against the wall a little too much. Lol. Just kidding.

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from Tyler Rausch wrote 1 year 15 weeks ago

Amazing buck... Truly amazing. Congrats on the successful hunt!!

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from Bone seeker wrote 1 year 14 weeks ago

Can't wait to see Devins sweet Oklahoma success w/o a guide. Devin oh Devin where have you been been in Oklahoma? Plenty deer w/o a guide there , where have you been Devin? You want to continue to call names and attempt to defend yourself? Not working...unfortunately you deep down realize the issue for many...Devin

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from Bone seeker wrote 1 year 14 weeks ago

Patriot Bow hunter, simple but well said. Devin, think real hard as yup read the comments. REAL hard

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from DevinMoore wrote 1 year 14 weeks ago

Lol boner seeker!!. I dont have to defend myself i shot a big mfr, in the wild, in canada, with a guide that will score in the boone and crockett!! And im happy as a lark. Your the one thats butt hurt!! I will congrat you when u shoot a "bigger buck"! :)

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from DevinMoore wrote 1 year 14 weeks ago

Lol boner seeker!!. I dont have to defend myself i shot a big mfr, in the wild, in canada, with a guide that will score in the boone and crockett!! And im happy as a lark. Your the one thats butt hurt!! I will congrat you when u shoot a "bigger buck"! :)

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from Bone seeker wrote 1 year 14 weeks ago

LOL, a booner w a big *****!

LOL

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from Backwoodsboy wrote 1 year 14 weeks ago

Bone seeker you have so much time on your hands to criticize devin and his guided hunt. Who was the guide and how successful is he on a yearly bases as to providing deer of this magnitude and the odds of taking a deer of this class on a day to day hunt in his very own back yard he calls home ?? It was his first time he had ever actually worked for a outfitter and was on the same year that he had finally taken a deer exceeding the caliber in which you probably still bone seek to achieve (160 +)
Every negative comment towards your opinion you are so quick to defend the whole "guided aspect" and how unfare it is. Just curious to know if it bothers you even more to know it was just another day in the random backwoods with just two hunters and 1 gun !

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from timberwood wrote 1 year 14 weeks ago

Devin, incredible buck! I would take a trip like you did if I had the opportunity to see a buck that big and get one chance at a shot!

Bone seeker, get a grip.

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from Bone seeker wrote 1 year 14 weeks ago

Hey all, done w post. No need to spend anymore time on it. Clear thinking folk understand. Maybe it's an east/west thing but it is what it is. We all know I have stayed on message/point so to continue this back and forth quite frankly is a waste of time. Read, think, try to understand, good hunting...on you own...if you are up for the challenge!!!

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from KennyG wrote 1 year 12 weeks ago

Bone seeker you are as dumb as the POTUS. I bet you voted for him.

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from Bone seeker wrote 1 year 11 weeks ago

Don't tell me this is THE saxophone playing Kenny G? Keep with playing the sax you tool. Talk about dumb. Go wonder off in the woods and don't come back.

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from casualhunter wrote 1 year 10 weeks ago

What a shame that this thread, like many others, deteriorates into an exchange of insults and childish name-calling! Seems to me both sides of the argument make valid points. It seems that most agree that not only the client, but the outfitter and guide deserve some of the credit for the harvest, and there is no doubt that the particular animal has a rack of the measured dimensions. I personally am not interested in such things, I just enjoy being out there, and having venison to eat if I get lucky. (I mention that to indicate my ignorance of B&C ratings tables and the like, not because I think everyone should be like me). A solution would be to rank the animals in order of score, but credit the client, guide if there is one, outfitter etc.. Then people like Bone seeker can scan down until he (or she) sees a self-sustained trophy, and admire that, and others can admire the one described in the article!

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from Grnmtnboy wrote 1 year 2 weeks ago

Goodness, how many times is boneseeker going to be slapped down and keep repeating its his last post? His jealousy of this magnificent animal is childish.

My hearty congrats to Devin on a truly magnificent trophy. Ignore the idiots, they are just big talkers.

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from Bone seeker wrote 48 weeks 6 days ago

Grnmtnboy

Go be the punk boy you are and GFY. Oh you might not know what that means...ask your grandson. Stop commenting as it's worthless garble . How's that for a slap down? Go wonder off like mtn blunder as you two shuld be together...alone away from the normal thinking folk

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from Grnmtnboy wrote 47 weeks 2 days ago

Wassamatta bone reeker, you no like being told what a dimwitted vermin you are? If I'm a punk "boy" how can I possibly have a grandson? The more you post, the less sense you make and you started off without any. You are the one who is posting worthless garble, that's why everyone has been slapping you upside the pork sucker. Now, get back to pushing that mop.

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from Bone seeker wrote 25 weeks 2 days ago

Grnmtnboy

Oh such a boy you are, your call name has "boy" in it numb nuts. I didn't know know boys could douche themselves. Maybe being such the douche you are it's true. Take yourself and your so called guide and douche each other. Douche!

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from Bone seeker wrote 25 weeks 2 days ago

Grnmtnboy

Oh such a boy you are, your call name has "boy" in it numb nuts. I didn't know know boys could douche themselves. Maybe being such the douche you are it's true. Take yourself and your so called guide and douche each other. Douche!

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from TinEagle wrote 20 weeks 2 hours ago

Bone seeker, we get it. You are a man. You are the man. You're a man's man. You stated your case, now leave it at that.

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from Bwana Hunter wrote 1 year 17 weeks ago

Hearty congradulations Devin on a truly great Whitetail buck! Also, that vast north country encompassing the area around the town of Slave Lake, Alberta is a real challenge for anyone to hunt in - even for the locals. Bitterly cold temperatures and unforgiving terrain in that enormous expanse of the North American boreal forest up there are sobering reasons for non-resident sportsmen to seek out the services of knowledgeable, quality outfitters like you found in Aaron Franklin of North Alberta Outfitters. Pay no attention to the whiners and ever present Judas'of this world who seek to bad mouth other's legitimate achievements.

As a further matter of interest in the northern Alberta sporting scene, one of the largest grizzlies ever brought down anywhere on the continent was by an Indian woman in the vicinity of Lessor Slave Lake. And the wolves I've seen and hunted myself personally there are some of the biggest brutes of the species found anywhere in the world.

What a truly great place to seek field & stream sporting oppurtunities, but like you mention in your article Devin - come prepared 'Pilgrims'..!

Best/Bwana

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from Mountain_Hunter wrote 1 year 15 weeks ago

First off, I would like to congratulate Devin and Aaron on their fantastic deer! That is truly a trophy of a lifetime!!! Any man would be happy to have him, guided or not...lets face the truth in those words. Boneseeker...are you telling me that if you were in Devin's shoes, and had killed a world class buck, you would not put it in the record book, because you are honorable and feel that you somehow cheated the system, and that the deer does not deserve to be in those pages because there was a "guide"? Give me a break! Devin and Aaron froze their asses off, made mile after mile in an effort to find a good deer, and it all came down to the wire. Lots of luck was involved, but such is the case with all hunting! His hunt was not in a "managed area" Boneseeker. We keep it real in Alberta. No baiting, no fences. Does it sound like Devon was in a stand either? They were mobile, and went searching for a worthy buck. As a "non-resident alien" from the states, Devin was legally required to go hunt with an outfitter. He chose a good one, and was given a good guide as well! I dont understand why you have such animosity for guided hunts. Give a man some credit where it is due, dont try to knock him down because you are jealous. Guided or not, this deer is world class. Have some sense, and honor the deer if nothing else. A truly magnificent animal like this, deserves to be shared with the world. Whether his life was taken on a guided or self-guided hunt, should not matter. Honor the animal. Put his picture in the record books, and let others say, "Holy crap! Look at that bruiser! I sure hope i can get one like him one day!!!" This is what the record books should instil in people: the desire to get out there and find that next record book animal. To maintain conservation, to stop killing young deer and ruining the gene pools, and consistently take old mature animals that have done their time. I'm sure one day you may get your chance at a good deer Boneseeker, but until then, stop being a Negative Nancy and trying to shoot Devin down because it was "guided". Get over it.

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from scorp wrote 1 year 17 weeks ago

Bone seeker.sounds like sour grapes to me.you go spend the time in Alberta and the cold and see if you can handle it.He was fortunate to see a deer of this caliber let alone shoot it.If he happened to pay for it so be it.At least it was fair chase and not baiting like other provinces or states.

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from Gary Devine wrote 1 year 17 weeks ago

Canada has some awesome Whitetail bucks. I hunted five times next door to Alberta, in Saskatchewan. Monster deer up there, that weight 250 pounds on up!

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from Dave Coleman wrote 1 year 16 weeks ago

to all the nay sayers out there and the ones that have a lot to say but cant put there name behind the statement ,,,ive guided for over 45years alberta ,,yukon ,,british columbia ,,north west territories ,,,had my share of success and failure ,,,i complement devin for saying it like it is ,,he worked hard for his money and can spend it where he wants ,,,arron franklin is as nice and sincere a young guide as i have ever met ,,troy foster one of the best outfitters in the business ,,,devin was last man standing on last day at that camp ,,it was tuff ,,going ,,,frozen gun ,,last day pressure,, blowing snow,, cold ,,cold ,,when it comes down to it,, its the guy shooting that has to get it done ,,,so to all,of the nay sayers your crap dont wash,, with this old cowboy ,,,DEVIN MOORE AND ARRON FRANKLIN got the job done together ,,,AND I WAS THERE TO SEE IT ,,,

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from scorp wrote 1 year 17 weeks ago

You obviously have no idea of what hunting in Alberta is all about bone.Managed properties do not exist in Alberta.By the way where do you hunt Bone?

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from maxevan wrote 1 year 17 weeks ago

Awesome Buck Texas Boy That is what I call a Buck of a "LIFE TIME" Great story & fantastic Pictures .Guide or Not you deserve the credit for taking down that Bruiser.I would have walked that Rack back home to Texas If I had to. My 9/29/2012 non typical 24 pt buck's final net score was 206 4/8 Ohio Big Buck & Boone & Crockett all time world rec Book .He also doesn't get far from my sights .Thanks Devin for sharing your Hunt with Field & Stream .Good Luck in 2013 Texas Boy!!!!

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from DevinMoore wrote 1 year 16 weeks ago

Thanks booner and everyone else for congrats. I feel truly lucky to even see a buck of that magnitude. Let alone get it shot. The hunting in canada was the toughest ive ever been around. The section my tag was in was 4000sq mi i believe. Solid timber. Theres no reason for that deer to ever see a human. I wouldnt suggest canada if you think its gonna be a sure thing to shoot a monster, its hunting. And i knew that after the first day. Troy and his staff are great to be around and hunt with and consider them friends on out!! No tellin what his offspring will turn into! Could be the next world record (if anyone is lucky enough to see him). :)

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from DevinMoore wrote 1 year 16 weeks ago

I was warned about people like boner seeker after I shot him. All I know is hunting in alberta is very tough and I feel blessed to even get a glimpse of him. It isn't a ranch hunt. It's wilderness. Try it and find out for yourself. U may get lucky and get yourself a big ol buck....... :)

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from Booner1967 wrote 1 year 17 weeks ago

Mr. Bone Seeker,
It is really too bad that you can't congratulate Devin on an incredible hunt. When everyone else is celebrating his accomplishment, you have to find a negative. You are to be commended on the effort you put into your hunts. But that doesn't mean you hunt any harder then anyone else. I'm sorry, but hunting in Canada is different then Minnesota or the Northeast. It just is. Not better or worse, just different. Hunting private or public land is a choice that you have made. So don't hold it against someone who has had the oppurtunity to do things different then you have. No one is talking about a High Fence hunt. So how about a deep breath and a congratulations on a 200+ trophy. Hopefully someday you will have the same class of animal to post pictures of.

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from mrblackshark75 wrote 1 year 16 weeks ago

Nice deer! I knew when I clicked on the page I would see controversy. Never fails with big whitetails. I see alot of guides as like going with your dad or grandad. You just pay them! Talking about regular woods not fences. Never used a guide personally. But , I do plan on considering one when I go to South Dakota next year. In my case, it just seems smart for my first pronghorn/mule deer trip. It's along way from Indiana!

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from mrblackshark75 wrote 1 year 16 weeks ago

While folks wanna change the record book rules make sure to separate public land, private land, and any other technicality. I can rarely hunt on private land. Are the folks who are so "against" guides hunt strictly public lands? Doubt it. So when you bag that big buck from "Uncle Joe's farm", if it's a record book one, make sure they add an asterisk next to it. Because if you really want it to be 100% recognized, it should be taken where 100% of the hunters can hunt! Until then, WAY TO GO DEVIN!!!

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from Mountain_Hunter wrote 1 year 15 weeks ago

The argument is understood. Its pretty simple: You're jealous, and need to get over it. You're complaint right from the get go is that this animal should have its own section in the record book, separated from "self-guided" deer, because it was not taken solely by Devin. That self-guided animals need to have special recognition. Do you think people really give a crap when they look in the record book whether it was taken while hunting with an outfit, or alone? The dont look at these details, unless they're pessimists. People look at the pictures, the numbers, the hunter's name, and where it came from. When people see that a massive buck was taken from Alberta, of course they will flock here to come try to get the next record! Its in our blood to be competitive! And such is the nature of this argument as well! haha. Yes, its incredibly rewarding to get out and kill a big trophy on your own! Have you ever been on a guided hunt? Obviously not. The rewards of such a hunt are just as great, and the sense of accomplishment the same. You pull that trigger regardless...whether your aim is true or not is ultimately the deciding factor. The nice thing about a guided hunt, is the camaraderie. Devin was able to share this experience of a lifetime with another soul, not selfishly all to himself. I have no doubt Devin could easily have come out to Alberta and found a massive deer all by himself, but as stated, law requires he be guided because he is from outside of the country. Its as simple as that. Devin didnt need someone else to do the homework, they shared that workload and passed the test together with flying colors. +200%!!!

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from Gary Devine wrote 1 year 16 weeks ago

Devin Congrats on a super buck!
I hunted five years in Saskatchewan, over bait, in a blind with a heater and with a guide, who had trail cameras with monster bucks. It not that easy, like taking candy from a baby. Most monster bucks are nocturnal, and their on the move hitting new areas and chasing does in estrus.
It doesn't matter if you have a trophy fish or trophy animal posted on any website, the negative comments will follow afterwards. Like the saying goes, "When your on the top, everybody will take shots at you."

Happy Holidays to all, Gary Devine

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from Grnmtnboy wrote 1 year 2 weeks ago

Goodness, how many times is boneseeker going to be slapped down and keep repeating its his last post? His jealousy of this magnificent animal is childish.

My hearty congrats to Devin on a truly magnificent trophy. Ignore the idiots, they are just big talkers.

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from DevinMoore wrote 1 year 17 weeks ago

You cant even buy a tag in alberta unless u go thru an outfitter or are accompanied by a resident.

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from DevinMoore wrote 1 year 16 weeks ago

Thanks for the congrats gary. Im kinda mad aaron didnt have him hog tied so i could shoot him on the first morning. Since thats what boner seeker thinks alberta "guided" hunting is all about..... Lol

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from DevinMoore wrote 1 year 14 weeks ago

Lol boner seeker!!. I dont have to defend myself i shot a big mfr, in the wild, in canada, with a guide that will score in the boone and crockett!! And im happy as a lark. Your the one thats butt hurt!! I will congrat you when u shoot a "bigger buck"! :)

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from DevinMoore wrote 1 year 14 weeks ago

Lol boner seeker!!. I dont have to defend myself i shot a big mfr, in the wild, in canada, with a guide that will score in the boone and crockett!! And im happy as a lark. Your the one thats butt hurt!! I will congrat you when u shoot a "bigger buck"! :)

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from Shelby Mahon wrote 1 year 16 weeks ago

Well I'd have to say I agree with Bone Seeker. Congrats to Moore for bagging that monster but to me guides, decoys, and baiting all fall into the same bucket. I'm way prouder knowing I scored my buck on my own, no calls, no scents, nothing, just me waiting patiently in the bush. Nothing against quides, I plan on making a trip to go Caribou hunting some day and would need a guide, but its just not the same as doing it on your own.

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from Dave Coleman wrote 1 year 16 weeks ago

ALLAN AND MS BONE SEEKER ,,,,LISTENING TO YOU TWO IS LIKE WATCHING A YOUNG PUP CHASE HIS TAIL IN CIRCLES AND THINK HES REALY DONE SOMETHING ,,,OR HAVEING A BATTLE OF WITS WITH AN UNARMED MAN ,,,YOU BOYS ARE FUNNY ,,,BUT MR ALLAN AFTER YOUR DONE PATING YOURSELF ON THE BACK ,,,FOR MESSING UP SOME ONES CAMERA LOCATION ,,,THE BEST WAY TO ATTRACT,, WOLVES ,,,IS LEAVE WOLF SCENT ,,,I GUESS WE CAN ALL FIGURE ,,,WHOS GETTING YOR BIG BUCKS ,,,WOULD BE THE FOUR LEGGED HUNTERS ,,,AND AFTER THE COUNTY AROUND SLAVE LAKE PAIDED OUT BOUNTYS ON 299 WOLVES LAST YEAR ,,,MY CASUAL OBSERVATION IS,, I THINK THE WOLVES ARE DOING VERY WELL ,,,BUT WHY NOT ALLAN IS AIDING AND ABETTING THEM ,,,TO AREAS FREQUENTED BY DEER ,,,GOOD BOY YOURSELF ,,,YOU SURE PULLED A FAST ONE ON THOSE RESIDENT HUNTERS USEING THERE GAME CAMS BECAUSE SOME YOUNG GUY ,,WORKING IN THE OIL PATCH OR BUSTING HIS BUTT LOGGING SO HE CAN PAY ,,,HIS MORGAGE ,,,AND MAKE A LIVEING ,,,, BUT ONLY HAS 5 DAYS TO HUNT ,,IN THE SEASON ,,SO TRYING TO IMPROVE HIS CHANCES ,,,YUP I THINK YOUR WIFE IS ON TO SOMETHING ,,,THERE ALLAN ,,,,

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from Dave Coleman wrote 1 year 16 weeks ago

ms bone seeker how did you know i was wearing a kilt ,,hee hee anyways just so you know devin moores biggest reason on entering in SCI is that there entry forms ask is it a guided hunt or non guided ,,and has space for the guide and outfitter if applicable ,, something i can see your unaware of ,,,but no falt,, but best to reserch that,, before you wear your tail out ,,,,,, but power to devin on that ,,,not interested in argueing about any of this as far as im concerned all opions ,,,and preferences ,,, it is christmas soon or maybe we cant say that hee hee ,,surprised anti faction hasnt complained about SANTA HITCHING HIS REINDEER IN HARNESS COULD BE CRUEL ,,,HA ALLEN didnt find any cams in bush ,,where i was guideing and have never found a bait site ,,,but im sure as you say there out there ,,,it saddens me on some of these topics the way everyone has become ,,,WHEN we MADE MONARCHS OF ALBERTA IN THE 80,S AND MANY OTHER MOVIES,,GIANTS OF THE YUKON ,,MAN HUNTER ,,,MOOSE,,,,, ECT,,, ECT I NEVER THOUGHT IT WOULD GET TO THIS ,,,and yes BONE SEEKER i will defend all the guides and outfitters i have great respect for and there are hundreds out there that are very,very ,,professional in fact a friend of mine named jim has a show to that effect ,,he hunted with me a few times,and i was his guide outfitter ,,, 20 years ago ,,,power to him ,,,IM STILL ABLE TO GUIDE 7 MONTHES OF THE YEAR AND HOPE ANOTHER 10 OR MORE ,,,HHEE HHEE ,,ILL BE WELL OVER 70 THEN ,,,,WE CAN TALK THEN MEN SO KEEP YOUR SPURS JINGLEING AND YOUR CINCH TIGHT ,,,,,,OH BETTER REFRAISE THAT,,,,, KEEP YOUR,QUAD GAS TANK FULL AND TIRES INFLATED,,,,,,,,,,,AND TO ALL A GOOD NITE ,,,with a smile goodfun ,,,,,,,DAVE COLEMAN ,,,,

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from Tyler Rausch wrote 1 year 15 weeks ago

Amazing buck... Truly amazing. Congrats on the successful hunt!!

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from KennyG wrote 1 year 12 weeks ago

Bone seeker you are as dumb as the POTUS. I bet you voted for him.

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from Backwoods Hunter wrote 1 year 16 weeks ago

The 175 yard shot reminds me of the doe I took at 150 yards this season. She went down like a ton of bricks. (Granted I was using a 30-.06)But otherwise great buck!

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from Daniel Allison wrote 1 year 16 weeks ago

Bone Seeker I agree with you. I also do my own hunting, no scents, bait, feeders, or stands. I hunt by the rules of nature and when I win I have a true sense that I have done something really special on my own. That is a feeling the others can never know and for that I pity them. I would like to hunt in Canada, but alas that is not allowed. They insist that I hire someone to do the hunting for me. It is nice they still will allow me to pull the trigger. I suppose soon they will require that the guide do the shooting also to stop from wounding animals. For a large sum of money I can watch. Merry Christmas and good hunting. Too the rest of you Merry Christmas and good shooting.

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from Grnmtnboy wrote 47 weeks 2 days ago

Wassamatta bone reeker, you no like being told what a dimwitted vermin you are? If I'm a punk "boy" how can I possibly have a grandson? The more you post, the less sense you make and you started off without any. You are the one who is posting worthless garble, that's why everyone has been slapping you upside the pork sucker. Now, get back to pushing that mop.

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from Bone seeker wrote 1 year 14 weeks ago

Patriot Bow hunter, simple but well said. Devin, think real hard as yup read the comments. REAL hard

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from Bone seeker wrote 1 year 11 weeks ago

Don't tell me this is THE saxophone playing Kenny G? Keep with playing the sax you tool. Talk about dumb. Go wonder off in the woods and don't come back.

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from Bone seeker wrote 25 weeks 2 days ago

Grnmtnboy

Oh such a boy you are, your call name has "boy" in it numb nuts. I didn't know know boys could douche themselves. Maybe being such the douche you are it's true. Take yourself and your so called guide and douche each other. Douche!

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from DevinMoore wrote 1 year 15 weeks ago

Well said mt hunter. Apparently boner seeker has beat his head against the wall a little too much. Lol. Just kidding.

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from jcs9095 wrote 1 year 16 weeks ago

looks like I am going to be arranging a way to go hunting in Alberta, Canada

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from Allan wrote 1 year 16 weeks ago

Ah ha I knew you're name sounded familiar just couldn't place it I've seen a couple of those movies that's what I'm talking about hunting the way it should be and still is for me,that's why I have a beef with some of these new tactics,can't stop it but I like to harp on it when someone will listen maybe get more people on my side before they try deer farms or hunting baits in this province ,it's been an honour debating this with a hunting ledgend like yourself. Merry Christmas all. Nice deer

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from Backwoodsboy wrote 1 year 14 weeks ago

Bone seeker you have so much time on your hands to criticize devin and his guided hunt. Who was the guide and how successful is he on a yearly bases as to providing deer of this magnitude and the odds of taking a deer of this class on a day to day hunt in his very own back yard he calls home ?? It was his first time he had ever actually worked for a outfitter and was on the same year that he had finally taken a deer exceeding the caliber in which you probably still bone seek to achieve (160 +)
Every negative comment towards your opinion you are so quick to defend the whole "guided aspect" and how unfare it is. Just curious to know if it bothers you even more to know it was just another day in the random backwoods with just two hunters and 1 gun !

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from timberwood wrote 1 year 14 weeks ago

Devin, incredible buck! I would take a trip like you did if I had the opportunity to see a buck that big and get one chance at a shot!

Bone seeker, get a grip.

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from casualhunter wrote 1 year 10 weeks ago

What a shame that this thread, like many others, deteriorates into an exchange of insults and childish name-calling! Seems to me both sides of the argument make valid points. It seems that most agree that not only the client, but the outfitter and guide deserve some of the credit for the harvest, and there is no doubt that the particular animal has a rack of the measured dimensions. I personally am not interested in such things, I just enjoy being out there, and having venison to eat if I get lucky. (I mention that to indicate my ignorance of B&C ratings tables and the like, not because I think everyone should be like me). A solution would be to rank the animals in order of score, but credit the client, guide if there is one, outfitter etc.. Then people like Bone seeker can scan down until he (or she) sees a self-sustained trophy, and admire that, and others can admire the one described in the article!

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from TinEagle wrote 20 weeks 2 hours ago

Bone seeker, we get it. You are a man. You are the man. You're a man's man. You stated your case, now leave it at that.

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from Bone seeker wrote 1 year 17 weeks ago

Sorry Scorp but I don't need someone doing my hunting for me. There are many places that do not allow baiting and decoys which would be where I hunt. People go to guides because they can't get it done on their own. The only sour grapes is the fact that guided hunts, managed properties specific to deer hunting and people like you who think it is in the same catagorie as someone who does their own homework to get their trophy. It is not the same and you have zero argument.

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from Bone seeker wrote 1 year 17 weeks ago

Scorp, I am originally from MN and have hunted in the northern territory of MN for years and I know what cold is. I now hunt in the north eastern US. Look, we all can agree to disagree. I just can't accept a record book deer being taken in A. Managed property specific to hunting whitetail B. Guided hunts where multiple individuals have scouted for you, call wild game for you and have stands/ blinds pre set up for you. Maybe this is the rule in some places but there I guess there are folks like me that just don't agree it can be considered in general record books. What about our fore fathers and ancestors that scouted wild areas on their own, read the land themselves and were successful hunters? This is how I learned from my grand father and uncles who truly understood reading sign, on their own. Look at the Eastman family in Western US, they do mostly their own wild hunts w no guide. I realize some areas require guides but I have seen them take plenty of deer on their own. Record book deer. What about the Benoit family who actually track their deer for hours to get that one shot of a wall hanger? These are the true hunters of old school. TV shows have sensationalized whitetail hunting and it is a game to them. Naming the multiple bucks on their properties and most every hunt is a bruiser taken on camera. It's not real life for those who hunt on public land or who have limited hunting spots or do not own land. I personally can be proud that my wall hangers are public land taken by me personally through a ton of scouting and hard work outsmarting the deer on my own. Thats the only points I am trying to make.

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from Bone seeker wrote 1 year 16 weeks ago

Bwana, you wouldn't happen to a guide or maybe affiliated with a guide service would you? Just curious as your comments certainly lean that way.
Myself along with many others I assume are done beating a dead horse. Most know where we stand. You pay thousands of dollars for a guided hunt and your chances greatly improve due to the scouting and research already being Done by others well in advance. If a hunter went out into that area of timber for the first time you would be found wondering around for miles not knowing where to go for a good chance to bag a buck. Unless you put the time in yourself. In the article it stated "were ready to settle on a 150 class buck the guide spotted". Settle? How many people can say in their public hunts they would " settle"for a buck of that size?

I think level headed folks understand these points. Devin, I will have to sign off of this thread to say it is a buck of a lifetime and I may have over reached some so don't take it personal for sure. He will be a real great wall hanger.

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from Bone seeker wrote 1 year 16 weeks ago

Mrblackshark75, really??? Go back and read through all the comments. Asterisk on uncle joes farm...really? You know where the asterisked will be for many. Now I sign off

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from Bone seeker wrote 1 year 16 weeks ago

Check out the potential new MA state record archery this season. Or the big buck in WI, OH or GA. Have you read about the other big bucks? All bucks around the 200" mark. These fellas got it done. See any guides involved? Not sure where the disconnect is fellas.

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from Bone seeker wrote 1 year 16 weeks ago

Allen, your opinion is well taken. Baseball's hall of fame Barry Bonds found that out the hard way along w many others extra advantages are not acceptable. Same thing here. Just my opinion too

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from Bone seeker wrote 1 year 16 weeks ago

Gentlemen, I have thoroughly enjoyed the spirited discussion. Passion for hunting however you do it is the main reason why we all do what we do. Lets not let this true sport end up being a dying sport. We all can agree to disagree but in the end it's all of us sportsman who will keep this sport of hunting alive. Teach your kids how to hunt because it is up to us....until the next post and spitted discussion!

Ps. Thanks Coleman for the old school input. Nor sure I could have pictured you in a kilt.

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from Bone seeker wrote 1 year 16 weeks ago

Meant spirited discussion! Spitted at first maybe :)

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from Bone seeker wrote 1 year 15 weeks ago

Oh Mtn Hunter oh mtn hunter, you continue to echo the argument . Why oh why do people not understand the argument? Can someone please answer? All of your points are taken and fully understood. It is not the Caliber of animal. It is by the means taken son. 200" deer are taken in deep bush, farmland, north country, deep south etc etc. All by hunters who do not need or require a guide... It is becoming very clear Alberta is an entirely different animal with requiring guides. It is the way there and not in many places. Ask the question...why do people go to a guide? What is the main reason? To attempt
To get a bigger buck than say Oklahoma? Where's the successes of Oklahoma? Not many I am sure and this is why one chose to have someone else do the homework. Please, completely read through the thread and try to understand the argument.

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from Bone seeker wrote 1 year 14 weeks ago

Can't wait to see Devins sweet Oklahoma success w/o a guide. Devin oh Devin where have you been been in Oklahoma? Plenty deer w/o a guide there , where have you been Devin? You want to continue to call names and attempt to defend yourself? Not working...unfortunately you deep down realize the issue for many...Devin

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from Bone seeker wrote 1 year 14 weeks ago

LOL, a booner w a big *****!

LOL

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from Bone seeker wrote 1 year 14 weeks ago

Hey all, done w post. No need to spend anymore time on it. Clear thinking folk understand. Maybe it's an east/west thing but it is what it is. We all know I have stayed on message/point so to continue this back and forth quite frankly is a waste of time. Read, think, try to understand, good hunting...on you own...if you are up for the challenge!!!

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from Bone seeker wrote 25 weeks 2 days ago

Grnmtnboy

Oh such a boy you are, your call name has "boy" in it numb nuts. I didn't know know boys could douche themselves. Maybe being such the douche you are it's true. Take yourself and your so called guide and douche each other. Douche!

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from Allan wrote 1 year 16 weeks ago

Thanks bone seeker,it's a bit of a rant but I would compare these advantages to steroids in sports that just my opinion

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from Allan wrote 1 year 16 weeks ago

Gary,again I say my comment was not to bash Devon but to point out what some consider hunting I don't agree with my dad guided long before the trailcam there were good years and bad now you see outfitters posting 100% success something is wrong,and this is what clients are expecting now,and dave you help my argument on baited cams they bring a lot of deer from a large area and concentrate them in a smaller one ,bringing the predators as well they are very clever u know,I see lots of pics on the net of deer being drug past a cam by wolves or cougars,this is not a coincidence and becoming more common,and most areas I hunt in the wolves were there long before me I know how to attract them I shot one Thursday afternoon ,again this is just my opinion the fact that we keep checking these posts tells me we like to argue and could probably go on forever,ps .there were a lot more cams stolen this year than I scented I wouldn't do that but tells me that there are others that don't like them,because most thieves don't hunt.

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from Patriot Bowhunters wrote 1 year 15 weeks ago

Hey it's not about ego, and it's not about showing off -- fact is scouting and hanging stands, getting to areas and getting in bow or gun range of a trophy animal solo is hard work and takes skill and experience to make the kill. Guided hunts do that for you - therefore, there needs to be 2 seperate sections in the record books - paid and self hunts. You pay for someone else to do the work then it's identified, and so is the self taken section. That way these arguments don't exist. Instead - it's simple - the facts are the facts. Let us judge or be judged how we will...

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from Bone seeker wrote 1 year 17 weeks ago

Shane on Alberta for not letting you guys hunt on your own

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from Bone seeker wrote 1 year 16 weeks ago

MS Coleman, you are obviously defending guide hunters because you are or were a guide for many years. You chose this line of work and you think it is an acceptable way to hunt..now I am talking whitetails here not Elk, caribou, cat hunting or the like. Is it acceptable to bait trail cams? Is it acceptable to set up stands and blinds in many locations because they have paid you to do so? Is it acceptable to do the calling for the hunter? If this is acceptable to you and others than fine. However, there are many other hunters who do not have a beef with outfitters but the beef is when a record buck gets taken by the ways mentioned above than most like me have a problem with it. As Allan said we could go on forever on this issue. Folks just need to accept the fact that guide hunting is fine on principal but the hunter should not get full credit a a booner buck is taken. Sorry but it is what it is.

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from Bone seeker wrote 1 year 15 weeks ago

Mtn blunder, where do I start? Look at the bottom of " today on field and stream". If you look through you start to see big bucks taken by average hunters. Have you not thoroughly done your homework? You have stated twice I am jealous and unfortunately for you I am not. On the contrary, I am jealous of bucks taken by folks who didn't require a guide and on their own luck and skill scored a buck vs a guided hunt. Why do we call it a guide? To guide the person who pays money to the intended quarry. Alas, a boner buck. Someday when you.. and the other folk who agree with you...get out of Alberta's trap you MIGHT have a chance to get it. Until then I sign off for the next post to pound my head against a wall. Because obviously pounding my head against a wall is as accurate as arguing with you. Please get out if Alberta and get on an individual hunt...you might like it and be successful!

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from Allan wrote 1 year 16 weeks ago

Nice too see this class of deer come out of the wild good show.that being said I live in slave lake area and hunt in the deep bush my beef with outfitters in general I won't point fingers but lump them all in one,in alberta you can not bait deer for HUNTING BUT you can for photography????? Intro the trail cam and a well patterned deer let the pile disappear before you shoot and its all good.I don't own trail cams neither did Ed Broeder or the other old boys that are being pushed down the line in the books,it's unfair.I have argued with people who use this tactic that if they choose to do it they can fill they're freezer and keep the horns out of the books of course they laugh so I got some wolf scent for when I find these baits works well I find many because I hunt trophies the hard way,lots of bush time,mt wife hates it but I feel proud of every animal I take,these other tactic are unfair,another beef with outfitters are two years in a row now I find big deer sign and maybe even get a peak at a monster early in the year take holidays during the rut only to arrive to a camp of ten or twelve taking over the whole area like a pack of wolves,not nice,one crew even strategically parked a vehicle in every parking spot I still went in while they were still sleeping and shot a decent 170 ,couldn't find my big deer he was on night shift probably after 40 close encounters with an ATV's gimme a break,now after this deer being shot up here it will be worse next season.That being said I don't know if this deer was harvested using these tactics but I will find out stay posted,hunt hard and honestly don't wreck it for the rest of us and those before.DOWN WITH THE WILD CHANNEL.nice deer

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from Bone seeker wrote 1 year 17 weeks ago

Sorry Scorp but I don't need someone doing my hunting for me. There are many places that do not allow baiting and decoys which would be where I hunt. People go to guides because they can't get it done on their own. The only sour grapes is the fact that guided hunts, managed properties specific to deer hunting and people like you who think it is in the same catagorie as someone who does their own homework to get their trophy. It is not the same and you have zero argument.

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from Bone seeker wrote 1 year 16 weeks ago

Allen, finally someone from the same area bush with common sense. I have a real good feeling my argument is even stronger now. "put meat in the freezer but keep the horns out of it". How true it is! Merry Christmas everyone

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from Bone seeker wrote 48 weeks 6 days ago

Grnmtnboy

Go be the punk boy you are and GFY. Oh you might not know what that means...ask your grandson. Stop commenting as it's worthless garble . How's that for a slap down? Go wonder off like mtn blunder as you two shuld be together...alone away from the normal thinking folk

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from Bone seeker wrote 1 year 17 weeks ago

Well, yet another guided hunt. Guided hunt trophies need to be put in another catagorie to those of us who hunt trophies on our own merit. I am not taking away the size of this bruiser but we all need to think real hard about these types of hunts and it being allowed iin the general population of hunters and the record books. Maybe I'm old school but I can't be the only one who feels this way.

Congrats on a successful GUIDED hunt.

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from Bone seeker wrote 1 year 17 weeks ago

Btw, great job Aaron (guide) for your grunting and positioning the big buck for the kill shot. Sounds like if you didn't do what you did with your expertise we wouldn't be discussing this post. Ahhh my point exactly

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