The night before, my in-laws got to arguing about whether there were any deer left near our cabin. Next morning 8am this 4 1/2 year old 8pt came my way. Marlin 336 in .35Rem with open sights did the rest. Guess about 200 lb. Next morning, another buddy of mine got a second 8pt 150 yards away from where I got this one. We hope to build on this in a month.