Further complicating the issue was the California law permitting the training of hounds in the woods all year long,ven when hunting seasons are closed. If the houndsman does not have a gun in his possession, he is not violating any laws. "These guys knew that," says Dailey. "They were talking on the radios, keeping track of us, even though they knew we could hear them. We'd hear them say, Â¿Â¿Â¿Okay, hide the guns' or Â¿Â¿Â¿He's coming your way now,' or even, Â¿Â¿Â¿Bring the gun.' At times there would be 13 houndsmen out there, all with radios, running dozens of dogs. They knew there were only three or four of us. It was a concerted effort, organized to break the law and get away with it. And it worked, for a while." Late in 2000, it was clear that the game was becoming more serious. "The tips were now saying that these guys were getting more and more into selling bear paws and gall bladders," says Dailey. "Gall bladders were selling on the Asian black market for $800, and the fine for not tagging a black bear was only $500, so we assumed that our tipsters were telling the truth."