Over the next three decades, Epp would become a full-time trainer, with dogs winning more than 40 major circuit trials. And of course, he has lots of stories. Once, a dog he was running had to make a hard turn around a fence. The dog was going flat out, Epp recalls, "but he smelled a bird right at the turn, and he stopped so hard his legs slid out from under him. I found him lying on his side, still locked on point." Fearing that the judges might not give his dog the benefit of the doubt, Epp leapt from his horse, stood the dog up, then remounted and called point. "He stayed tight the whole time, and I won the trial!"