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Question by jer4570. Uploaded on April 03, 2009
If you want to clobber any game animal on the planet, you can do it with super hot loads of .45-70, but you need the right gun for it - a modern one that can handle the extra high pressure. If you want a modest kicking deer woods gun, you can have that too. .45-70 is very versatile, fun, and deadly. You should definitely start doing this.
Reloading your own 45-70 ammo is easy! The cost of the equipment is a onetime buy and will pay for itself soon pending how much you shoot.
Is it worth it?
Just remember, 45-70 is originally a Black Powder Cartridge and the pressures for the 45-70 are much lower than today’s rifles.
Had a friend with a 45-70 Ruger #3 loading 350 grain at 458 Win Mag velocities and the recoil wasn’t near as bad as the 3 ½ inch shells out of my 12 gauge! Now that’s a rifle designed for today’s powders’.
Mr. Bill Ruger Owner of Ruger Firearms, tried to see how close he could come to blowing up the Ruger #3. He loaded a 45-70 so hot, it melted the case and bust the stock in three places.
thanks to both replys.do presses cover all reloads with the right dies?
Some of the manuals list loads for the 45-70 that are specific for the gun you may have. They go in power from Springfield trapdoor, Lever-actions, to modern single-shot and bolt-action. The single-shot loads will likely blow the action on a trap-door. Just keep that in mind when you reload for the 45-70. If you are using a modern rifle it should not be a problem.
Ok heres the deal you need to get a Marlin it will handle the hot loads or a Ruger but yeah that gun has killed everything in N America and the big 6 in Africa. It's easier to reload than most bottle neck cartridges as its straight walled and fairly low pressure, you should be able to get carbide dies which don't require lube. Great gun, super easy, go for it!
Well, you probably don't save any money because you can shoot more for the same cost. Shooting more should make you a better shooter. You get to customize your own ammo and use bullets you might not be able to find off the shelf. And if you cast your own lead you've gained another skill. It feels good researching loads and bullets, and refining those loads so they are right for your gun and game.
If you really want to get into it try loading with black powder and 520 grain cast bullets for target shooting. It's a different ball of wax altogether. Mike Venturino wrote a manual just about reloading with BP. It's fun to shoot my Sharp's with BP reloads and done right they are everybit as accurate as smokeless loads.
It is certainly worth the investment. The 45/70 is very versatile and easy to reload. You can even cast your own bullets for it! As the other guys said the reloading manuals have date stepped from the trap door loads at 25,000 psi or less, the "Marlin" loads at 40,000 psi or less and the Ruger #1 loads which are hot! Pay attention to the data and make sure you use loads correct for the rifle you are shooting. Look at Remington bullets, their 300 grain hollow points and 405 gain flat nose bullets are very good and are cheaper than most other 45/70 jacketed bullets out there. Hard cast bullets are also available for the 45/70 commercially. Reloader 7 is a good powder to work with as is IMR 4198. The equipment to load the 45/70 is no more expensive than for other cartridges unless you go the black powder route. The you will then need a compression die and a drop tube as well.
I just started reloading about 5 mos ago. It is easier than I thought. I purchased I "complete kit" from Lee. It is cheap (price) and after shoting about 500 reloads (300 wsm and 243) I am not blind and have all of my fingers. I also purchased the lee reloading book and their website has helpfull videos. No regrets here and I really enjoy it. So whatever I want to reload (centerfire) I just need a set of dies from lee and I am ready ( maybe different powder etc) but the kit helped with alot of questions I had.
Agreed with Beekeeper answer above and A + 1 for you sir!!!
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