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Question by deadeye11. Uploaded on June 22, 2009
300 shorty is an interesting caliber. I myself have a 300 win mag and my wife won't let me get one. she told me she would get one when she gets her elk rifle. What better elk rifle could you ask for, 300 mag punch out of a short actioned rifle with less recoil. makes perfect sense to me. being a bench shooter and accuracy guru, i will say that the accuracy potential is amazing with any of the short mags, the 300 being the least finicky of them to reload and/or find factory loads that shoot well. i've found that when loading them for friends, the rifles seem to like bullets in 180 grains or more.
as far as rifles go, i'm partial to remingtons, but i have my eye on a one of the new winchesters. I already have one in .270 but it's being repaired right now. beautiful rifle though. i love the history and feeling of having a winchester model 70, and what a pretty rifle!!! I've had a lot of bad luck with savage, but others will tell you that they love them.
btw--do you like pretty rifles, or down to buiseness rifles?
I do not have one, but like the ballistics.
I doubt you will find many short magnum fans on these blogs including myself. The short mag is no better than the 300 win mag in terms of performance and the short mag ammo costs more.
A .300 WSM is on my short list. Takes advantage of modern powders and cartridge design. Can produce excellent velocities and accuracy out of short barrels and actions. I will not say that it matches .300Win Mag velocities, especially in heavy bullets, but it is close. If I want a heavier bullet I'll look at a .325 WSM (he-he, that should get some words flowing) or a custom .338 Lapua (this one just flat out intrigues me even if I don't need it).
To hunt3r: If you got the .300 Win. You don't need the .300 WSM. You'll be loosing FPS on your rounds.
To deadeye11: IF YOU MUST ! I'd go with Winchester/Browning hard to beat the origin of the round.
I put Hornady LightMagnums in my .06 to get an extra 150-200 fps and flatten it out by a couple inches at 300yds.
The only short mag that gives you a edge over the standard existing rounds is the 270WSM,a friend of mine bought a 300WSM and the recoil was the same as a standard 300Win mag.
I would stick with the 300 win or some other tried and true round. In a few years that shorty will be obsolete and ammo even more expensive and hard to find than it is now.
I'll take my 30-06 over the 300 WSM any day. If I need something bigger I'll bring out my 338 Win Mag.
Back in 83 I sold my 300 Win Mag to a person who wanted it so bad he couldn't stand it. He wanted to shoot just like me with 750 yard shots. So I sold it to him and replaced it with a 25-06 and never looked back.
As for the fella who bought my 300 Win Mag?
He traded it in for a 25-06 so go figure!
If you want to pay double the price for ammo for 150 fps, that’s half the velocity of my bow, knock yourself out!
When you think your bad enough with that 300 Mag, meet me back on the 1000 yard line and I’ll show you what my M1A is capable of doing. I’ll trade accuracy and the ability to hit “MOP” for kick especially in the wallet any day.
Once agian ken.mcloud said it best!
“So, I think that the superior killing power of larger rounds is largely in our heads.(likely testosterone induced) A flat-shooting round that you can accurately place will produce as many if not more "bang-flop" kills as a heavy caliber round.”
If you want a .300 WSM consider one of the Kimbers, costs a little more than some others but generally great quality. Personally I would rather have the same gun in a .300 WIN or .338 WIN but then that's just me. Get what you want, if you decide you don't like it later sell or trade it for something else, at least as long as we are allowed to do so.
my suggestion is dont do it. I considered it one time, then the smarter side of me saw the $35 price tag for ammo so i settled for a .308--smart move!!!
Buy one that doesn't cost too much and has good resale value for when you get tired of high ammo prices and recoil, unless you handload and are a cast iron stud like me. LOL!
I do reload lol guess that makes me and iron stud also and thanks to everybody for the info
I find the .300 WSM to be pointless. Compared to the original (and best) .300 Win, you lose velocity, especially with the heavier bullets. All you gain is about an inch shorter rifle and a few less ounces in weight. I guess they do kick a little less, but whatever.
The only Winshorts worth anything are the .325WSM and to a lesser degree the .270WSM.
I just got one, I love it. Mine is a Tikka, composite stock, it has the smoothest action I've ever felt and it is also very light.
Tikka T3. I have a 270 win and it is awsome!
i have a model 700 and love it
The first Tikka T3 Lite I purchased was a 300 WSM . The 300 WSM and the 300 Win Mag shoot pretty much the same balistics. If I had a 300 Win Mag I wouldn't buy a 300 WSM but since I didn't I bought the 300 WSM. With the prefit Sims limb saver recoil pad the gun is a pleasure to shoot. I live in WV and have shot several whitetail deer here, and I have shot several deer in Alabama hunting with the late Davy Allison. My 300 WSM will shoot 3/4 inch groups all day long with the Hornady 150 grain interbond bullet. If I was going to but another 300 it would be a 300 WSM in a Tikka T3 Lite.
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