Del,
I purchased a double from Stoeger for my son and have had to send it back to the factory twice and it still only fires 1/2 the time when I pull the trigger.
I don't know if it is the best but I got a Browning 12 gage Cynergy last fathers day and absolutely love it. Its a beautiful, reliable gun that gets the job done. I use it for upland birds, dove, and some sporting clay for fun.
Both of the Browning OUs are really nice. I also really like Ruger Red Labels and they typically run a little cheaper than Citoris. Mossberg has a turkish import that is a pretty nice gun but it doesn't have ejectors so if you're using it in the field it really slows you down.
CZ USA Imports several O/U shotguns from Turkey, made by Hugli. Of the lot the upper end gun is the Woodcock, color casehardened, single selective trigger, ejectors on the 12 & 20, screw in choketubes. Can be had for under a $1000. The next is the Redhead, same gun with a coin finished receiver, slightly cheaper. The last is the Canvasback, Blue, Choke tubes, Single selective trigger, ejectors, I have seen this gun in the high 5's to low 6's. Good guns, good warranty.
A good step up would be the Beretta 686 line and the Browning Citori. Both have a good reputation for soild service. Both are about the same price. I've seen several Bass Pro ads lately with good pricing on the Beretta.
Not to go off the subject but I hear the Turkish imports are a good quality gun as opposed to Brazil, Russia and some Italian. Has anyone else heard this?
I bought a Khan 12 ga. O/U at Gander Mtn two seasons ago for use in the swamps. It is a working mans gun with matte finish and turkish walnut wood. It cost $250 and has been well worth it.
I replaced the choke tubes with stainless steel Trulock chokes because the factory ones cracked with 3" steel loads.
All I know is it works good and I would rather drop it in the spooge than my browning.
You can find used Ruger Red Labels in most gun racks for 500-800 bucks. The metal to wood fit leaves much to be desired but function is very good and that is what matters in a moderately priced field gun.
I like the Ruger Red Labels, they are on the low priced, high end side if you know what I mean. they'll run you 700-1000 compared to Brownings and a lot of the imports that start at 2500 and go up
I bought a Yildiz 2 years ago and I really like it. It's a 20, with single selective trigger, auto ejectors, screw in chokes. I paid about $400 for it. I think it was well worth the money. I also have a Berreta O/U and I think the cheaper gun shoots just as well.
I am surprised at how well made the Hugli guns are considering the money. I have seen some that had above average wood with a decent fit to the metal. The mount and point well also. The Red Labels always seemed heavier or bulkier than I thought necessary but lots of shooters swear by them. One friend bought a 20 for his daughter also they both shoot it. He claims that it is loosening up much quicker than a Browning or Beretta due to, according to him, having a cast receiver. I have handled the gun and it appeared all right to me. I actually don't know if the receiver is cast or forged or if it even matters. SKB used to be a great gun for the money as well as the older Charles Dalys which were manufactured by Miroku. Now they are not so inexpensive. If you are looking for a used O/U above all else be sure the rib is firmly anchored at it point as having them reattached is a costly endeavor. A neighbor found out the hard way with his Win 101 by having to fork out about as much as he paid for it.
The newer SKB's have long forcing cones and .75" backbore. They are excellent. But everybody knows that Brownings are a safe bet and a sure thing. If I had to choose, I wouldn't know what to do. Probably go wih the SKB for the barrel work. My training partner shoots one and he doesn't miss.
from snipekiller I have a.12 red label I got 22 yrs ago.It has never failed in anyway.Ijust bought another in .28 ga and love it too.If there is better gun for the money Idon't know what it is .
Buy American!
I don't know if it is the best but I got a Browning 12 gage Cynergy last fathers day and absolutely love it. Its a beautiful, reliable gun that gets the job done. I use it for upland birds, dove, and some sporting clay for fun.
Both of the Browning OUs are really nice. I also really like Ruger Red Labels and they typically run a little cheaper than Citoris. Mossberg has a turkish import that is a pretty nice gun but it doesn't have ejectors so if you're using it in the field it really slows you down.
CZ USA Imports several O/U shotguns from Turkey, made by Hugli. Of the lot the upper end gun is the Woodcock, color casehardened, single selective trigger, ejectors on the 12 & 20, screw in choketubes. Can be had for under a $1000. The next is the Redhead, same gun with a coin finished receiver, slightly cheaper. The last is the Canvasback, Blue, Choke tubes, Single selective trigger, ejectors, I have seen this gun in the high 5's to low 6's. Good guns, good warranty.
A good step up would be the Beretta 686 line and the Browning Citori. Both have a good reputation for soild service. Both are about the same price. I've seen several Bass Pro ads lately with good pricing on the Beretta.
Del,
I purchased a double from Stoeger for my son and have had to send it back to the factory twice and it still only fires 1/2 the time when I pull the trigger.
Not to go off the subject but I hear the Turkish imports are a good quality gun as opposed to Brazil, Russia and some Italian. Has anyone else heard this?
I bought a Khan 12 ga. O/U at Gander Mtn two seasons ago for use in the swamps. It is a working mans gun with matte finish and turkish walnut wood. It cost $250 and has been well worth it.
I replaced the choke tubes with stainless steel Trulock chokes because the factory ones cracked with 3" steel loads.
All I know is it works good and I would rather drop it in the spooge than my browning.
You can find used Ruger Red Labels in most gun racks for 500-800 bucks. The metal to wood fit leaves much to be desired but function is very good and that is what matters in a moderately priced field gun.
I like the Ruger Red Labels, they are on the low priced, high end side if you know what I mean. they'll run you 700-1000 compared to Brownings and a lot of the imports that start at 2500 and go up
I bought a Yildiz 2 years ago and I really like it. It's a 20, with single selective trigger, auto ejectors, screw in chokes. I paid about $400 for it. I think it was well worth the money. I also have a Berreta O/U and I think the cheaper gun shoots just as well.
I am surprised at how well made the Hugli guns are considering the money. I have seen some that had above average wood with a decent fit to the metal. The mount and point well also. The Red Labels always seemed heavier or bulkier than I thought necessary but lots of shooters swear by them. One friend bought a 20 for his daughter also they both shoot it. He claims that it is loosening up much quicker than a Browning or Beretta due to, according to him, having a cast receiver. I have handled the gun and it appeared all right to me. I actually don't know if the receiver is cast or forged or if it even matters. SKB used to be a great gun for the money as well as the older Charles Dalys which were manufactured by Miroku. Now they are not so inexpensive. If you are looking for a used O/U above all else be sure the rib is firmly anchored at it point as having them reattached is a costly endeavor. A neighbor found out the hard way with his Win 101 by having to fork out about as much as he paid for it.
The newer SKB's have long forcing cones and .75" backbore. They are excellent. But everybody knows that Brownings are a safe bet and a sure thing. If I had to choose, I wouldn't know what to do. Probably go wih the SKB for the barrel work. My training partner shoots one and he doesn't miss.
from snipekiller I have a.12 red label I got 22 yrs ago.It has never failed in anyway.Ijust bought another in .28 ga and love it too.If there is better gun for the money Idon't know what it is .
Buy American!
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Del,
I purchased a double from Stoeger for my son and have had to send it back to the factory twice and it still only fires 1/2 the time when I pull the trigger.
Field grade Citoris are good.
I don't know if it is the best but I got a Browning 12 gage Cynergy last fathers day and absolutely love it. Its a beautiful, reliable gun that gets the job done. I use it for upland birds, dove, and some sporting clay for fun.
Both of the Browning OUs are really nice. I also really like Ruger Red Labels and they typically run a little cheaper than Citoris. Mossberg has a turkish import that is a pretty nice gun but it doesn't have ejectors so if you're using it in the field it really slows you down.
CZ USA Imports several O/U shotguns from Turkey, made by Hugli. Of the lot the upper end gun is the Woodcock, color casehardened, single selective trigger, ejectors on the 12 & 20, screw in choketubes. Can be had for under a $1000. The next is the Redhead, same gun with a coin finished receiver, slightly cheaper. The last is the Canvasback, Blue, Choke tubes, Single selective trigger, ejectors, I have seen this gun in the high 5's to low 6's. Good guns, good warranty.
http://www.cz-usa.com/products_shotguns.php
A good step up would be the Beretta 686 line and the Browning Citori. Both have a good reputation for soild service. Both are about the same price. I've seen several Bass Pro ads lately with good pricing on the Beretta.
Not to go off the subject but I hear the Turkish imports are a good quality gun as opposed to Brazil, Russia and some Italian. Has anyone else heard this?
I got a shotgun, 12 gauge from New England Firearms. my grandpa reloads bullets so he gets discounts on guns and ammo so I bought it from him for $20.
I bought a Khan 12 ga. O/U at Gander Mtn two seasons ago for use in the swamps. It is a working mans gun with matte finish and turkish walnut wood. It cost $250 and has been well worth it.
I replaced the choke tubes with stainless steel Trulock chokes because the factory ones cracked with 3" steel loads.
All I know is it works good and I would rather drop it in the spooge than my browning.
Buck hunter,
The Turkish guns from Hugli (CZ USA) are well made. Like all things one finds a stinker evey now and then.
You can find used Ruger Red Labels in most gun racks for 500-800 bucks. The metal to wood fit leaves much to be desired but function is very good and that is what matters in a moderately priced field gun.
I like the Ruger Red Labels, they are on the low priced, high end side if you know what I mean. they'll run you 700-1000 compared to Brownings and a lot of the imports that start at 2500 and go up
I bought a Yildiz 2 years ago and I really like it. It's a 20, with single selective trigger, auto ejectors, screw in chokes. I paid about $400 for it. I think it was well worth the money. I also have a Berreta O/U and I think the cheaper gun shoots just as well.
I am surprised at how well made the Hugli guns are considering the money. I have seen some that had above average wood with a decent fit to the metal. The mount and point well also. The Red Labels always seemed heavier or bulkier than I thought necessary but lots of shooters swear by them. One friend bought a 20 for his daughter also they both shoot it. He claims that it is loosening up much quicker than a Browning or Beretta due to, according to him, having a cast receiver. I have handled the gun and it appeared all right to me. I actually don't know if the receiver is cast or forged or if it even matters. SKB used to be a great gun for the money as well as the older Charles Dalys which were manufactured by Miroku. Now they are not so inexpensive. If you are looking for a used O/U above all else be sure the rib is firmly anchored at it point as having them reattached is a costly endeavor. A neighbor found out the hard way with his Win 101 by having to fork out about as much as he paid for it.
I've got an SKB 505 that is more gun than I'll ever need and the price was right.
The newer SKB's have long forcing cones and .75" backbore. They are excellent. But everybody knows that Brownings are a safe bet and a sure thing. If I had to choose, I wouldn't know what to do. Probably go wih the SKB for the barrel work. My training partner shoots one and he doesn't miss.
Agreed with Beekeeper answer above and A + 1 for you sir!!!
from snipekiller I have a.12 red label I got 22 yrs ago.It has never failed in anyway.Ijust bought another in .28 ga and love it too.If there is better gun for the money Idon't know what it is .
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I don't know if it is the best but I got a Browning 12 gage Cynergy last fathers day and absolutely love it. Its a beautiful, reliable gun that gets the job done. I use it for upland birds, dove, and some sporting clay for fun.
Both of the Browning OUs are really nice. I also really like Ruger Red Labels and they typically run a little cheaper than Citoris. Mossberg has a turkish import that is a pretty nice gun but it doesn't have ejectors so if you're using it in the field it really slows you down.
CZ USA Imports several O/U shotguns from Turkey, made by Hugli. Of the lot the upper end gun is the Woodcock, color casehardened, single selective trigger, ejectors on the 12 & 20, screw in choketubes. Can be had for under a $1000. The next is the Redhead, same gun with a coin finished receiver, slightly cheaper. The last is the Canvasback, Blue, Choke tubes, Single selective trigger, ejectors, I have seen this gun in the high 5's to low 6's. Good guns, good warranty.
http://www.cz-usa.com/products_shotguns.php
A good step up would be the Beretta 686 line and the Browning Citori. Both have a good reputation for soild service. Both are about the same price. I've seen several Bass Pro ads lately with good pricing on the Beretta.
Del,
I purchased a double from Stoeger for my son and have had to send it back to the factory twice and it still only fires 1/2 the time when I pull the trigger.
Field grade Citoris are good.
Not to go off the subject but I hear the Turkish imports are a good quality gun as opposed to Brazil, Russia and some Italian. Has anyone else heard this?
I got a shotgun, 12 gauge from New England Firearms. my grandpa reloads bullets so he gets discounts on guns and ammo so I bought it from him for $20.
I bought a Khan 12 ga. O/U at Gander Mtn two seasons ago for use in the swamps. It is a working mans gun with matte finish and turkish walnut wood. It cost $250 and has been well worth it.
I replaced the choke tubes with stainless steel Trulock chokes because the factory ones cracked with 3" steel loads.
All I know is it works good and I would rather drop it in the spooge than my browning.
You can find used Ruger Red Labels in most gun racks for 500-800 bucks. The metal to wood fit leaves much to be desired but function is very good and that is what matters in a moderately priced field gun.
I like the Ruger Red Labels, they are on the low priced, high end side if you know what I mean. they'll run you 700-1000 compared to Brownings and a lot of the imports that start at 2500 and go up
I bought a Yildiz 2 years ago and I really like it. It's a 20, with single selective trigger, auto ejectors, screw in chokes. I paid about $400 for it. I think it was well worth the money. I also have a Berreta O/U and I think the cheaper gun shoots just as well.
I am surprised at how well made the Hugli guns are considering the money. I have seen some that had above average wood with a decent fit to the metal. The mount and point well also. The Red Labels always seemed heavier or bulkier than I thought necessary but lots of shooters swear by them. One friend bought a 20 for his daughter also they both shoot it. He claims that it is loosening up much quicker than a Browning or Beretta due to, according to him, having a cast receiver. I have handled the gun and it appeared all right to me. I actually don't know if the receiver is cast or forged or if it even matters. SKB used to be a great gun for the money as well as the older Charles Dalys which were manufactured by Miroku. Now they are not so inexpensive. If you are looking for a used O/U above all else be sure the rib is firmly anchored at it point as having them reattached is a costly endeavor. A neighbor found out the hard way with his Win 101 by having to fork out about as much as he paid for it.
I've got an SKB 505 that is more gun than I'll ever need and the price was right.
The newer SKB's have long forcing cones and .75" backbore. They are excellent. But everybody knows that Brownings are a safe bet and a sure thing. If I had to choose, I wouldn't know what to do. Probably go wih the SKB for the barrel work. My training partner shoots one and he doesn't miss.
Agreed with Beekeeper answer above and A + 1 for you sir!!!
Buck hunter,
The Turkish guns from Hugli (CZ USA) are well made. Like all things one finds a stinker evey now and then.
from snipekiller I have a.12 red label I got 22 yrs ago.It has never failed in anyway.Ijust bought another in .28 ga and love it too.If there is better gun for the money Idon't know what it is .
Buy American!
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