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This year I am going on my first elk hunt. I don't know what to take with me! I have two rifles to chose from, a .300 mag. or a .270. So my question is: which one do I take, and is a 150g enough to knock down a bull elk or do I need something bigger? I just don't know! Please help me with a decision.
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Both guns will work I have killed a couple elk with a .270 but I would recommend bringing the .300 mag., and yes a 150 grain bullet would work but if you could I would go with a 180 grain. Really it isn't the size of the gun or grain of the bullet it all depends on your shot placement, but a bigger caliber and bullet does help.
both will work . and yes a 150 gr. pill out of the 270 will work for you just fine .
If you can shoot the .300 well, take it and use a 180 gr. bullet. If not take the .270, which is about the low end starting point of elk rifles.
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I don't know, perhaps you need a 700 Nitro Express!
Yup either one thru the broiler room is going to bust ribs thru n thru, take the one that feels " lucky " this time.
I'm sure that either rifle will suffice for your use. Pick a good spot and squeeze the trigger. Good hunting to you!
If you can shoot the .300 as well as you shoot the .270, it's the obvious choice. If not, take the .270. Shot placement is the key no matter what you shoot.
I agree with everyone else....both will do just fine. If your going for knockdown power I'd go with the .300 mag and 180 grain bullets. But, biggest thing is shot placement, as I'm sure you know.
Good Luck!
To the term "knockdown power": Knocking down an elk is pure myth, outside of a 105mm howitzer or roadside IED. There is no shoulder fired rifle capable of "knockdown" on an elk.
An elk hit in the heart, spine, or nerve center might collapse on the spot, but you won't knock one down, so forget that term. I shot one three times at less than 100 yards with 225 grain bullets packing over 3,000 ft-lbs of energy and he didn't fall over from knockdown. He went down on the 3rd hit in the shoulder after 2 in the heart/lungs. Elk are tough, not tough to kill. If he's still standing, I'm still shooting. No matter how good a hit you think you made, shoot again. Some years ago, I watched the best bull I ever shot at walk away after what I thought was a good hit.
You should take both and have one as a backup. I'd personally use the .300.
If you don’t know what you need, flay out you need a 30-06! Covers everything from Yodel Dogs to Moose and gives you back change!
300 mag belts the snit out of you with just 150 fps more and the critter will never know the diferance!!
The tough thing is finding the elk. Rifles seem to sort out on their own.
.300 Win with 180 grain Partitions or TSX. The key is a good bullet. Premium.
If I handed you 3 rifles at the range, 270, 30-06 and a 300 Win Mag the most comfortable and reliable rifle you would like would be the 30-06! I Alaska, countless times, hunters at the range would forgo the 30 cal magnums and go either with the 30-06 or the 338 Win Mag after firing them.
If you want the kick go with the 338 Win Mag!
my picks would be a 30-06 180 lead or the 270 but 300 or a 7mm will do the job but i dont care for the kick but thats just my op
hope you get a nice one
I think if I had a 300 I would take it but all I have is a 270 and if I had a chance to go for elk I would not hesitate to take it.
Take the 300 or use this opportunity as an excuse to get a new gun.......
All good answers to your question. Mtn. hunter makes a good point. If he's not down with four feet sticking up, keep putting the lead too him. Shot placement is the key factor. Don't hesitate with your follow up shot, waiting to see, because you may never see him again. I would recommend which ever rifle your comfortable with. I hunt the west central Cascades in Oregon for Roosevelt's and long shot's haven't been a factor for me. I've used my 270 exclusively for all the bull's I've taken and been quite sastisfied with the rifle and the 150 Grand Slams. I've hunted with it now for over 30 years for elk, very comfortable with it and know what it's capable of. Which ever rifle you decide, have a good time and I hope you have a succesful hunt.
If it's not a backpack trip or horseback trip and you can bring two rifles, bring them both. I dropped my 7mm right on it's scope about 10AM opening day last year. I was lucky that I had my 338 with me and used that the rest of the hunt. Good thing, because the 7mm was 4"low and 3" left at 100yds when I took it to the range a few weeks later.
If you are more than comfortable and can shoot it well the 300 is very good for elk, but if you are more comfortable and a better shot with the 270, load it up with 150 grain Partitions, Grand-slams or Barnes'X-bullets and go shoot an elk.
Best of luck to you.
AKX
i killed my first elk with a 270!! it was about 100 or 150 yards away!! took it down, and then last year we got a bull elk with it from around 300 yards away...took him down too!! we use 180gr partition bullets, that might be the kicker...for longer shots...120gr ballistic tip. good luck
I have shot alot of elk with my .270 remington, model 710. I guess the question I would ask is which of the two rifles are you most confortable with and have the best shot placement. There are lots of variables, such as where you will be hunting and possible distance of shots that will determine your choice as well. My advice is to spend some quality time scouting your spot for the hunt and put in some serious time behind both of the rifles your are considering and decide which will fit you best.
my brother hunts elk with the 270 and my father hunts elk with his 300 so i guess there both good guns. We've always had good shots at them and the bullets don't fall short. Just bring bullets when i shot my elk it took three shots to bring that thing down.
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Both guns will work I have killed a couple elk with a .270 but I would recommend bringing the .300 mag., and yes a 150 grain bullet would work but if you could I would go with a 180 grain. Really it isn't the size of the gun or grain of the bullet it all depends on your shot placement, but a bigger caliber and bullet does help.
If you can shoot the .300 as well as you shoot the .270, it's the obvious choice. If not, take the .270. Shot placement is the key no matter what you shoot.
To the term "knockdown power": Knocking down an elk is pure myth, outside of a 105mm howitzer or roadside IED. There is no shoulder fired rifle capable of "knockdown" on an elk.
An elk hit in the heart, spine, or nerve center might collapse on the spot, but you won't knock one down, so forget that term. I shot one three times at less than 100 yards with 225 grain bullets packing over 3,000 ft-lbs of energy and he didn't fall over from knockdown. He went down on the 3rd hit in the shoulder after 2 in the heart/lungs. Elk are tough, not tough to kill. If he's still standing, I'm still shooting. No matter how good a hit you think you made, shoot again. Some years ago, I watched the best bull I ever shot at walk away after what I thought was a good hit.
If you can shoot the .300 well, take it and use a 180 gr. bullet. If not take the .270, which is about the low end starting point of elk rifles.
both will work . and yes a 150 gr. pill out of the 270 will work for you just fine .
I'm sure that either rifle will suffice for your use. Pick a good spot and squeeze the trigger. Good hunting to you!
I agree with everyone else....both will do just fine. If your going for knockdown power I'd go with the .300 mag and 180 grain bullets. But, biggest thing is shot placement, as I'm sure you know.
Good Luck!
If you don’t know what you need, flay out you need a 30-06! Covers everything from Yodel Dogs to Moose and gives you back change!
300 mag belts the snit out of you with just 150 fps more and the critter will never know the diferance!!
The tough thing is finding the elk. Rifles seem to sort out on their own.
If I handed you 3 rifles at the range, 270, 30-06 and a 300 Win Mag the most comfortable and reliable rifle you would like would be the 30-06! I Alaska, countless times, hunters at the range would forgo the 30 cal magnums and go either with the 30-06 or the 338 Win Mag after firing them.
Yup either one thru the broiler room is going to bust ribs thru n thru, take the one that feels " lucky " this time.
You should take both and have one as a backup. I'd personally use the .300.
.300 Win with 180 grain Partitions or TSX. The key is a good bullet. Premium.
If you want the kick go with the 338 Win Mag!
my picks would be a 30-06 180 lead or the 270 but 300 or a 7mm will do the job but i dont care for the kick but thats just my op
hope you get a nice one
I think if I had a 300 I would take it but all I have is a 270 and if I had a chance to go for elk I would not hesitate to take it.
Take the 300 or use this opportunity as an excuse to get a new gun.......
All good answers to your question. Mtn. hunter makes a good point. If he's not down with four feet sticking up, keep putting the lead too him. Shot placement is the key factor. Don't hesitate with your follow up shot, waiting to see, because you may never see him again. I would recommend which ever rifle your comfortable with. I hunt the west central Cascades in Oregon for Roosevelt's and long shot's haven't been a factor for me. I've used my 270 exclusively for all the bull's I've taken and been quite sastisfied with the rifle and the 150 Grand Slams. I've hunted with it now for over 30 years for elk, very comfortable with it and know what it's capable of. Which ever rifle you decide, have a good time and I hope you have a succesful hunt.
If it's not a backpack trip or horseback trip and you can bring two rifles, bring them both. I dropped my 7mm right on it's scope about 10AM opening day last year. I was lucky that I had my 338 with me and used that the rest of the hunt. Good thing, because the 7mm was 4"low and 3" left at 100yds when I took it to the range a few weeks later.
If you are more than comfortable and can shoot it well the 300 is very good for elk, but if you are more comfortable and a better shot with the 270, load it up with 150 grain Partitions, Grand-slams or Barnes'X-bullets and go shoot an elk.
Best of luck to you.
AKX
i killed my first elk with a 270!! it was about 100 or 150 yards away!! took it down, and then last year we got a bull elk with it from around 300 yards away...took him down too!! we use 180gr partition bullets, that might be the kicker...for longer shots...120gr ballistic tip. good luck
I have shot alot of elk with my .270 remington, model 710. I guess the question I would ask is which of the two rifles are you most confortable with and have the best shot placement. There are lots of variables, such as where you will be hunting and possible distance of shots that will determine your choice as well. My advice is to spend some quality time scouting your spot for the hunt and put in some serious time behind both of the rifles your are considering and decide which will fit you best.
my brother hunts elk with the 270 and my father hunts elk with his 300 so i guess there both good guns. We've always had good shots at them and the bullets don't fall short. Just bring bullets when i shot my elk it took three shots to bring that thing down.
O'Hell rebol23
I don't know, perhaps you need a 700 Nitro Express!
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