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what is your smallest caliber for a bear defense pistol.

Question by muskiemaster. Uploaded on April 01, 2009

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from jer4570 wrote 2 years 44 weeks ago

i suggest no smaller than a 45,depending on the size.at close range pepper spray is the best overall

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from Reid Jones wrote 2 years 44 weeks ago

if it were up to me i would be looking for the largest legal caliber. haha

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from idduckhntr wrote 2 years 44 weeks ago

I would choose a 45 Long Colt in a old Ruger Vaqureo or Blackhawk something that can handle heavy loads like Buffalo Bore and shoot a 260 or 300 grain bullet but you would be better of with a shotgun with slugs. P.S dont trust peeper spray because some where the wind is allways going to blow in the wrong direction.

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from Del in KS wrote 2 years 44 weeks ago

In Alaska I carried a S&W Model 629 44 mag with 8 3/8 inch barrel and felt undergunned. I went to a Model 660 Remington rifle in 350 rem mag. It is a lot of power in a small light rifle. Just sling it over the shoulder. It will kill any bear that walks.

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from rocky d bashaw wrote 2 years 44 weeks ago

44mag or 45long colt min calibers

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from shane wrote 2 years 44 weeks ago

Del! Again! Genius!

I think .480 Ruger is pretty much perfect for bears. Lots of horsepower, large diameter. You'll avoid the mauling from the bear, and you'll avoid the mauling that the .454C or .475L will give you.

.460 or .500 S&W would be great too, but are very expensive and require a bigger gun.

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from Clay Cooper wrote 2 years 44 weeks ago

Did you know its Alaska State law that you must remove all front sights from any Magnum Handgun for Bear protection!

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from Clay Cooper wrote 2 years 44 weeks ago

That front blade is hell on the hemorrhoids when that bear slaps that noise maker out of your hand and shoves it up your posterior! Nothing replaces a good rifle, even #6 bird shot in the face works great!!!

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from hjohn429 wrote 2 years 44 weeks ago

I would say 44 Mag and 480 Ruger would be my smallest choice. My biggest choice would be a BFR in 45/70.

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from kolbster wrote 2 years 44 weeks ago

clay i want to kill the bear not make it mad, i would never use #6 bird shot, slugs maybe but not bird shot. it depends on what kind of bear you would run into, around my house where it is all black bear, i would use a good 357mag or a 12 ga with 00buck or slugs, if your talking grizleys i would want at the very least a 44mag, and if possable a good rifle.

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from KingFisher907 wrote 2 years 44 weeks ago

yeah, make sure you have that front sight filed down smooth...wont hurt so much when the bear put it where the sun dont shine...

for bear protection, youll want a short-barreled 12 gauge shotgun with the biggest slugs it can handle...

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from Beekeeper wrote 2 years 44 weeks ago

Look at what the guides carry for bear protection. Like Del said, a short handy rifle in a thumper caliber or a short handy shotgun stuffed with all the slugs you can get into it. You won't stop a big bear bent on causing you harm with a handgun. Ask all these folks who advocate using a hand gun for bear defence if they have actually ever used said device for such a purpose and also inquire as to how it turned out...

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from Happy Myles wrote 2 years 44 weeks ago

An old Alaskan guide told me, "if you use a pistol, better to shoot yourself then the bear".

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from shane wrote 2 years 44 weeks ago

It does seem that every bear guide or researcher I've seen carried a rifle. Almost all bolt guns too. If it were me, I'd have a big bore lever gun. A Remington 7600 woods carbine in .35 Whelen would be nice too. I'd still like to risk it with a revolver though.

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from Jeff4066 wrote 2 years 44 weeks ago

There is no such thing as a "bear defense pistol".

Everyone will have a story told to them by the friend of a friend, who knew someone who's cousin killed a bear with a Davis .25 automatic.

But the only person I know who personally faced a bear (with witnesses) emptied a Ruger Super Blackhawk .44 Magnum at a range approaching point blank. It was a friend with a rifle who made the kill, while this man dropped the pistol and jumped off a tall rock.

It was not a very big bear either, but still a good story for him.

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from idahooutdoors wrote 2 years 44 weeks ago

If I was in Grizz country I would have at least a 44mag. The area I spend most of my time in has black bears, and if one was charging me I would prefer to have a 44, but due to weight and ease of carry I usually have a seven shot .357 S&W 686 on my side.

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from WA Mtnhunter wrote 2 years 43 weeks ago

Good thing about shooting a griz with a handgun is that they can recover the slug later and confirm which bear ate your lunch..

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from clamsdaggett wrote 2 years 5 weeks ago

Why, oh why are you picking on a Davis .25? Everyone who is anyone carries a Davis! I am crying fitfully and writhing on the floor about what you have said to hurt the feeling of the poor little Davis! Oh how I love Davis, brave little aoutomatic who boldly gives it's life to save it's owner from grizzleys and other denizens of the forest. What a great gun for all to see!

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from duwhite wrote 44 weeks 2 days ago

The perfect Bear defense pistol for Black Bears of any size in my opinion would be the 480 Ruger with a 9.5" barrel loaded with the 425 Grain Wide Flat Nose Gas Check rounds offered by Grizzly Cartridge. You could shoot a Black Bear in the face with this and have the bullet come ripping through it's asshole. If that's not powerful enough for you, then you're by no means a man or in any condition mentally to be walking through the woods where there are critters such as the Great Bears. Don't listen to people who criticize a big revolver such as the one I mention as being un handy in a dangerous situation because of it's long barrel, I own one believe me, this is not true. If you were gooing to be in the woods with Brown Bears though, you are definitely going to want to be carrying a 45-70 levergun rather than a pistol. If you were going to be carrying a pistol though, it would be wise to step up to the 500 S&W loaded with the heaviest Wide Flat Nose solids available for the gun.

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from idduckhntr wrote 2 years 44 weeks ago

I would choose a 45 Long Colt in a old Ruger Vaqureo or Blackhawk something that can handle heavy loads like Buffalo Bore and shoot a 260 or 300 grain bullet but you would be better of with a shotgun with slugs. P.S dont trust peeper spray because some where the wind is allways going to blow in the wrong direction.

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from rocky d bashaw wrote 2 years 44 weeks ago

44mag or 45long colt min calibers

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from shane wrote 2 years 44 weeks ago

Del! Again! Genius!

I think .480 Ruger is pretty much perfect for bears. Lots of horsepower, large diameter. You'll avoid the mauling from the bear, and you'll avoid the mauling that the .454C or .475L will give you.

.460 or .500 S&W would be great too, but are very expensive and require a bigger gun.

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from Clay Cooper wrote 2 years 44 weeks ago

That front blade is hell on the hemorrhoids when that bear slaps that noise maker out of your hand and shoves it up your posterior! Nothing replaces a good rifle, even #6 bird shot in the face works great!!!

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from hjohn429 wrote 2 years 44 weeks ago

I would say 44 Mag and 480 Ruger would be my smallest choice. My biggest choice would be a BFR in 45/70.

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from kolbster wrote 2 years 44 weeks ago

clay i want to kill the bear not make it mad, i would never use #6 bird shot, slugs maybe but not bird shot. it depends on what kind of bear you would run into, around my house where it is all black bear, i would use a good 357mag or a 12 ga with 00buck or slugs, if your talking grizleys i would want at the very least a 44mag, and if possable a good rifle.

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from Happy Myles wrote 2 years 44 weeks ago

An old Alaskan guide told me, "if you use a pistol, better to shoot yourself then the bear".

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from shane wrote 2 years 44 weeks ago

It does seem that every bear guide or researcher I've seen carried a rifle. Almost all bolt guns too. If it were me, I'd have a big bore lever gun. A Remington 7600 woods carbine in .35 Whelen would be nice too. I'd still like to risk it with a revolver though.

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from idahooutdoors wrote 2 years 44 weeks ago

If I was in Grizz country I would have at least a 44mag. The area I spend most of my time in has black bears, and if one was charging me I would prefer to have a 44, but due to weight and ease of carry I usually have a seven shot .357 S&W 686 on my side.

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from duwhite wrote 44 weeks 2 days ago

The perfect Bear defense pistol for Black Bears of any size in my opinion would be the 480 Ruger with a 9.5" barrel loaded with the 425 Grain Wide Flat Nose Gas Check rounds offered by Grizzly Cartridge. You could shoot a Black Bear in the face with this and have the bullet come ripping through it's asshole. If that's not powerful enough for you, then you're by no means a man or in any condition mentally to be walking through the woods where there are critters such as the Great Bears. Don't listen to people who criticize a big revolver such as the one I mention as being un handy in a dangerous situation because of it's long barrel, I own one believe me, this is not true. If you were gooing to be in the woods with Brown Bears though, you are definitely going to want to be carrying a 45-70 levergun rather than a pistol. If you were going to be carrying a pistol though, it would be wise to step up to the 500 S&W loaded with the heaviest Wide Flat Nose solids available for the gun.

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from Reid Jones wrote 2 years 44 weeks ago

if it were up to me i would be looking for the largest legal caliber. haha

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from Del in KS wrote 2 years 44 weeks ago

In Alaska I carried a S&W Model 629 44 mag with 8 3/8 inch barrel and felt undergunned. I went to a Model 660 Remington rifle in 350 rem mag. It is a lot of power in a small light rifle. Just sling it over the shoulder. It will kill any bear that walks.

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from Clay Cooper wrote 2 years 44 weeks ago

Did you know its Alaska State law that you must remove all front sights from any Magnum Handgun for Bear protection!

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from Jeff4066 wrote 2 years 44 weeks ago

There is no such thing as a "bear defense pistol".

Everyone will have a story told to them by the friend of a friend, who knew someone who's cousin killed a bear with a Davis .25 automatic.

But the only person I know who personally faced a bear (with witnesses) emptied a Ruger Super Blackhawk .44 Magnum at a range approaching point blank. It was a friend with a rifle who made the kill, while this man dropped the pistol and jumped off a tall rock.

It was not a very big bear either, but still a good story for him.

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from WA Mtnhunter wrote 2 years 43 weeks ago

Good thing about shooting a griz with a handgun is that they can recover the slug later and confirm which bear ate your lunch..

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from clamsdaggett wrote 2 years 5 weeks ago

Why, oh why are you picking on a Davis .25? Everyone who is anyone carries a Davis! I am crying fitfully and writhing on the floor about what you have said to hurt the feeling of the poor little Davis! Oh how I love Davis, brave little aoutomatic who boldly gives it's life to save it's owner from grizzleys and other denizens of the forest. What a great gun for all to see!

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from jer4570 wrote 2 years 44 weeks ago

i suggest no smaller than a 45,depending on the size.at close range pepper spray is the best overall

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from KingFisher907 wrote 2 years 44 weeks ago

yeah, make sure you have that front sight filed down smooth...wont hurt so much when the bear put it where the sun dont shine...

for bear protection, youll want a short-barreled 12 gauge shotgun with the biggest slugs it can handle...

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from Beekeeper wrote 2 years 44 weeks ago

Look at what the guides carry for bear protection. Like Del said, a short handy rifle in a thumper caliber or a short handy shotgun stuffed with all the slugs you can get into it. You won't stop a big bear bent on causing you harm with a handgun. Ask all these folks who advocate using a hand gun for bear defence if they have actually ever used said device for such a purpose and also inquire as to how it turned out...

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