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All things being equal, such as grain weight, shaft length, etc., Can I expect a fixed blade broadhead to fly to the same point of aim as a field point? How about mechanical blades? What do you all suggest as a hunting point for a beginner? Thanks for the info.

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from JohnR wrote 4 years 51 weeks ago

All things being equal it has always been my position to practice with the broadhead you will be hunting with. In my personal experience, a broadhead will shoot differently than a field point, especially at longer bow ranges (i.e. 25 yards). I have been told the blades exert a small aerodynamic effect on the arrow in flight which will alter point of impact. Obviously, one will have to touch up sharpen the broadheads after shooting them into a target. Use a target made specifically for broadhead use. Hope that helps.

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from steve182 wrote 4 years 51 weeks ago

I agree, broadheads rarely shoot the same as field points. You should try a couple different broadhead types to find one that flies best. Believe it or not my broadheads were hitting higher than my field points, so my 20yd pin with field tips is a 25 yd pin with my broadheads. Who'dve thought?

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from rezavoirdog wrote 4 years 51 weeks ago

Some Broadheads are designed to fly like field points, but will "plane" the wind at extended ranges (usually beyond 30-40 yards) past comfortable shooting ranges for most archery hunters. Older models of fixed-blade broadheads had to be "tuned" or sited-in with the bow. Mechanical broadheads have field point flight, but also have their drawbacks. They can fail to open, or deflect on sharp-angled shots; they usually don't penetrate as well because of lost energy used for the blades to open. Rage Broadheads are a good balance (or so I've heard) of field point flight, deep penetration and minimal loss of energy due to their rearward deployment of blades.
I personally shoot fixed blade broadheads (Slick Trick 100 Grain Magnums), they fly the best out of my bow, exactly like the field points I shoot. I personally feel more confident in shooting these then a mechanical broadhead. I'd buy some of each, if you can afford it and shoot them at various yardages and angles and decide for yourself.

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from Christian Emter wrote 4 years 51 weeks ago

Not all the time. Broadheads are heavier therefore having to aim a little higher. A good beginner tip is a field tip to practice with, a JUDO point to hunt rabbits and squirrels.

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from CPT BRAD wrote 4 years 51 weeks ago

No Broadheads will rarely hit in the same place as field points mine are usually 6-8 inches to the right and about 2-3 inches higher. Muzzy makes some great broadheads and they are TUFF I've shot mine into trees before and pulled them out with not one blade breaking.

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from Taylor3535 wrote 4 years 51 weeks ago

Agreed with Brad. But, Mechanicals will fly the closest to field tips.

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from rezavoirdog wrote 4 years 51 weeks ago

I've been shooting Slick Tricks for 3 years and have yet to have to move my site that has been tuned with field points. So, maybe its the bow, broadhead/arrow/weight combinations...

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from chuckles wrote 4 years 51 weeks ago

I use G5 Montecs and they do shoot about 2" left and 2" lower than my fieldpoints. As the season approaches I do adjust my sight and start shooting only broadheads but I do wait so I don't have to buy two Block targets a year. Even the practice broadheads tear them up eventually.
I have been told by people who know more than I do about archery that the difference is due to improper broadhead alignment. I tried adjusting them after spinning them but it did not make a big of difference. Operator error could be a huge factor here. Also they all shoot to the same different point of impact so I'm not sure if alignment is the issue.
I love the Montecs as they are easy to sharpen. They do well on game but do get busted up if you miss and hit rocks or even frozen dirt. I have some Muzzy heads too. Maybe I will try them.
Never tried mechanicals for the reasons rezavoirdog mentions.

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from Clay Cooper wrote 4 years 51 weeks ago

I tried Mechanicals and after shooting 3 bladed 100 grain MUZZY’S, I prefer the MUZZY”S over the Mechanicals. Every deer I shot with the MUZZY they blew right thru them sticking in the ground a good 8 inches at 55 yards out and leaving a massive wound channel. They shoot the exact point of aim as my 100 grain field tips.

I use a Gold Tip 5575 cut at 28 inches with MUZZY 100 Grain 3 blade with both standard and luma knocks for hunting. The accuracy is outrageously phenomenal!
As for the actual setup for both and arrows you truly need to go to a reputable Archery Shop and have the bow tuned and settings adjusted for proper draw length, weight or draw and arrows cut to that length of draw. Not doing so will cost you more than you will ever know!

Today’s bows are High Performance, why have a race car only hitting on 6 cylinders instead of 8 and 10 degrees off timing!

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from rezavoirdog wrote 4 years 51 weeks ago

Thanks Clay Cooper for proving my "point" on field points and broadhead accuracy (being equal), kinetic energy and penetration.
P.S. G5 Strikers are also a great broadhead (expensive though!)

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from straightjacket249 wrote 4 years 51 weeks ago

I agree with Cooper, Muzzy's are the way to go. I prefer the 4 blade 1 inch cut. The wind doesn't seem to affect the flight of them as much and they will crash right through bone. I bought a new sight last year(Trophy Ridge Matrix) that is tool-less. I have a paint mark for field points and another one from my broad heads. It's not a big difference but just enough for those long shots.

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from shane wrote 4 years 51 weeks ago

Ask any guide or highly experienced hunter. The vast majority of well hit but lost deer are a result of mechanical broadheads. Use fixed blade heads, especially cut on contact ones.

G5 Montec is the best deer broadhead ever. I would say it's the best ever, but it's not very big, for elk and such.

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from buckhunter wrote 4 years 51 weeks ago

My thunderheads are 3 inches lower than my fieldtips at 25 yds but I get a tight group. I sight my bow in with broadheads.

I agree wholeheartedly with shanes post. Stick with fixed blades. You will be happy you did.

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from Del in KS wrote 4 years 51 weeks ago

Sorry guys but I have to stay with rage 2 blade. They are expensive, but they shoot like a field point and cut a massive wound that causes a huge, short bloodtrail. Click my name and go to page 7 of my photos and check the pic of a rage 2 blade broadhead wound.

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from Taylor3535 wrote 4 years 50 weeks ago

I would say the majority of lost deer are due to a seemingly good shot but an actual bad shot, NOT mechanical broadheads. You put a good shot on a deer, regardless of the broadhead, he's going down in no time.

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from libertyfirst wrote 4 years 50 weeks ago

Careful and precise tuning is the key to making field point and broadheads hit in the same spot. After I set my bows up for reasonable flight I start shooting through paper to fine tune the flight characteristics.I start at 5'and continue to work with the bow and arrow combo until I can make a perfect bullethole through the paper at all ranges. If you shoot with your fingers, a slight tear to the left(for a right hand shooter)is acceptable. I simply do not do this activity casually and work very hard to get the result that I want. There are some poor broadheads on the market that will not fly but there are a great many more that work very well indeed. I personally have had the best flight and performance on deer with the Muzzy and the Thunderhead and I will tell you honestly that they hit exactly where my field points hit. Good luck to you.

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from 007 wrote 4 years 49 weeks ago

They're hard to find anymore but I like the old Bear Razorhead in 145 grains, something that will cut thru ribs if necessary and can be sharpened. Welcome to the family, good hunting.

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from dokklee wrote 4 years 47 weeks ago

Watch some of the Primos team video's. They use Rocky Mountain -Synpers and their deer go on the ground. These are mechanicals. I have read field testing reports in Bowhunting magazine and they have a good articles on penetration,deflection, and how tough these mechanicals are compared to fixed blade broad heads. After researching this quite a bit I bought the rocky Mountains but also considered Wasp-Jak-Hammer and Rocket - Steelhead which also got high marks. Fixed blade broad heads tend to plane on the wind giving you a diffent impact point then a field tip. i tried the Blazer viens but still was not satisfied. Shooting targets with fixed blade broadheads can get expensive(a set of braodhead blades and a broad head target gone if you choose this route and practice. The mechanicals worked the best for me. I removed the side blades and re-sharpen the cut on impact tip. I can use a standard target. I don't have a yard to shoot in so i have to pay five dollars each time I shoot at the range. The point of impact is the closest to my field tips ...less time and less money to sight in.

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from rudyglove27 wrote 3 years 48 weeks ago

Agreed with CPT BRAD and + 1 for you sir!!!

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from JohnR wrote 4 years 51 weeks ago

All things being equal it has always been my position to practice with the broadhead you will be hunting with. In my personal experience, a broadhead will shoot differently than a field point, especially at longer bow ranges (i.e. 25 yards). I have been told the blades exert a small aerodynamic effect on the arrow in flight which will alter point of impact. Obviously, one will have to touch up sharpen the broadheads after shooting them into a target. Use a target made specifically for broadhead use. Hope that helps.

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from steve182 wrote 4 years 51 weeks ago

I agree, broadheads rarely shoot the same as field points. You should try a couple different broadhead types to find one that flies best. Believe it or not my broadheads were hitting higher than my field points, so my 20yd pin with field tips is a 25 yd pin with my broadheads. Who'dve thought?

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from rezavoirdog wrote 4 years 51 weeks ago

Some Broadheads are designed to fly like field points, but will "plane" the wind at extended ranges (usually beyond 30-40 yards) past comfortable shooting ranges for most archery hunters. Older models of fixed-blade broadheads had to be "tuned" or sited-in with the bow. Mechanical broadheads have field point flight, but also have their drawbacks. They can fail to open, or deflect on sharp-angled shots; they usually don't penetrate as well because of lost energy used for the blades to open. Rage Broadheads are a good balance (or so I've heard) of field point flight, deep penetration and minimal loss of energy due to their rearward deployment of blades.
I personally shoot fixed blade broadheads (Slick Trick 100 Grain Magnums), they fly the best out of my bow, exactly like the field points I shoot. I personally feel more confident in shooting these then a mechanical broadhead. I'd buy some of each, if you can afford it and shoot them at various yardages and angles and decide for yourself.

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from Christian Emter wrote 4 years 51 weeks ago

Not all the time. Broadheads are heavier therefore having to aim a little higher. A good beginner tip is a field tip to practice with, a JUDO point to hunt rabbits and squirrels.

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from CPT BRAD wrote 4 years 51 weeks ago

No Broadheads will rarely hit in the same place as field points mine are usually 6-8 inches to the right and about 2-3 inches higher. Muzzy makes some great broadheads and they are TUFF I've shot mine into trees before and pulled them out with not one blade breaking.

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from Taylor3535 wrote 4 years 51 weeks ago

Agreed with Brad. But, Mechanicals will fly the closest to field tips.

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from rezavoirdog wrote 4 years 51 weeks ago

I've been shooting Slick Tricks for 3 years and have yet to have to move my site that has been tuned with field points. So, maybe its the bow, broadhead/arrow/weight combinations...

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from chuckles wrote 4 years 51 weeks ago

I use G5 Montecs and they do shoot about 2" left and 2" lower than my fieldpoints. As the season approaches I do adjust my sight and start shooting only broadheads but I do wait so I don't have to buy two Block targets a year. Even the practice broadheads tear them up eventually.
I have been told by people who know more than I do about archery that the difference is due to improper broadhead alignment. I tried adjusting them after spinning them but it did not make a big of difference. Operator error could be a huge factor here. Also they all shoot to the same different point of impact so I'm not sure if alignment is the issue.
I love the Montecs as they are easy to sharpen. They do well on game but do get busted up if you miss and hit rocks or even frozen dirt. I have some Muzzy heads too. Maybe I will try them.
Never tried mechanicals for the reasons rezavoirdog mentions.

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from Clay Cooper wrote 4 years 51 weeks ago

I tried Mechanicals and after shooting 3 bladed 100 grain MUZZY’S, I prefer the MUZZY”S over the Mechanicals. Every deer I shot with the MUZZY they blew right thru them sticking in the ground a good 8 inches at 55 yards out and leaving a massive wound channel. They shoot the exact point of aim as my 100 grain field tips.

I use a Gold Tip 5575 cut at 28 inches with MUZZY 100 Grain 3 blade with both standard and luma knocks for hunting. The accuracy is outrageously phenomenal!
As for the actual setup for both and arrows you truly need to go to a reputable Archery Shop and have the bow tuned and settings adjusted for proper draw length, weight or draw and arrows cut to that length of draw. Not doing so will cost you more than you will ever know!

Today’s bows are High Performance, why have a race car only hitting on 6 cylinders instead of 8 and 10 degrees off timing!

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from rezavoirdog wrote 4 years 51 weeks ago

Thanks Clay Cooper for proving my "point" on field points and broadhead accuracy (being equal), kinetic energy and penetration.
P.S. G5 Strikers are also a great broadhead (expensive though!)

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from straightjacket249 wrote 4 years 51 weeks ago

I agree with Cooper, Muzzy's are the way to go. I prefer the 4 blade 1 inch cut. The wind doesn't seem to affect the flight of them as much and they will crash right through bone. I bought a new sight last year(Trophy Ridge Matrix) that is tool-less. I have a paint mark for field points and another one from my broad heads. It's not a big difference but just enough for those long shots.

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from shane wrote 4 years 51 weeks ago

Ask any guide or highly experienced hunter. The vast majority of well hit but lost deer are a result of mechanical broadheads. Use fixed blade heads, especially cut on contact ones.

G5 Montec is the best deer broadhead ever. I would say it's the best ever, but it's not very big, for elk and such.

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from buckhunter wrote 4 years 51 weeks ago

My thunderheads are 3 inches lower than my fieldtips at 25 yds but I get a tight group. I sight my bow in with broadheads.

I agree wholeheartedly with shanes post. Stick with fixed blades. You will be happy you did.

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from Del in KS wrote 4 years 51 weeks ago

Sorry guys but I have to stay with rage 2 blade. They are expensive, but they shoot like a field point and cut a massive wound that causes a huge, short bloodtrail. Click my name and go to page 7 of my photos and check the pic of a rage 2 blade broadhead wound.

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from Taylor3535 wrote 4 years 50 weeks ago

I would say the majority of lost deer are due to a seemingly good shot but an actual bad shot, NOT mechanical broadheads. You put a good shot on a deer, regardless of the broadhead, he's going down in no time.

+1 Good Comment? | | Report
from libertyfirst wrote 4 years 50 weeks ago

Careful and precise tuning is the key to making field point and broadheads hit in the same spot. After I set my bows up for reasonable flight I start shooting through paper to fine tune the flight characteristics.I start at 5'and continue to work with the bow and arrow combo until I can make a perfect bullethole through the paper at all ranges. If you shoot with your fingers, a slight tear to the left(for a right hand shooter)is acceptable. I simply do not do this activity casually and work very hard to get the result that I want. There are some poor broadheads on the market that will not fly but there are a great many more that work very well indeed. I personally have had the best flight and performance on deer with the Muzzy and the Thunderhead and I will tell you honestly that they hit exactly where my field points hit. Good luck to you.

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from 007 wrote 4 years 49 weeks ago

They're hard to find anymore but I like the old Bear Razorhead in 145 grains, something that will cut thru ribs if necessary and can be sharpened. Welcome to the family, good hunting.

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from dokklee wrote 4 years 47 weeks ago

Watch some of the Primos team video's. They use Rocky Mountain -Synpers and their deer go on the ground. These are mechanicals. I have read field testing reports in Bowhunting magazine and they have a good articles on penetration,deflection, and how tough these mechanicals are compared to fixed blade broad heads. After researching this quite a bit I bought the rocky Mountains but also considered Wasp-Jak-Hammer and Rocket - Steelhead which also got high marks. Fixed blade broad heads tend to plane on the wind giving you a diffent impact point then a field tip. i tried the Blazer viens but still was not satisfied. Shooting targets with fixed blade broadheads can get expensive(a set of braodhead blades and a broad head target gone if you choose this route and practice. The mechanicals worked the best for me. I removed the side blades and re-sharpen the cut on impact tip. I can use a standard target. I don't have a yard to shoot in so i have to pay five dollars each time I shoot at the range. The point of impact is the closest to my field tips ...less time and less money to sight in.

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from rudyglove27 wrote 3 years 48 weeks ago

Agreed with CPT BRAD and + 1 for you sir!!!

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