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I saw an all-black deer while hunting in upstate New York last season. One of my buddies saw it too, so I'm not crazy. How rare are they?

Question by Henry Wefer. Uploaded on January 08, 2009

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from timmy2bears wrote 5 years 14 weeks ago

You are crazy. There are no all-black deer.

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from Henry Wefer wrote 5 years 14 weeks ago

Yeah, and there aren't any black squirrels either

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from rjbedrock wrote 5 years 13 weeks ago

I've been hunting upstate New York for 32 years and I've never seen anything close to an all-black deer!
I would say what you saw, is VERY RARE!!!

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from T wrote 5 years 13 weeks ago

Yes guys there is all black deer and they are as rare or rarer than a albino or monarch. They are called Melanistic deer and they are black because of something to do in the genes.

-Hope I helped-

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from peter wrote 5 years 12 weeks ago

a back deer seems plausible
and by the way Henry Wefer there are black square

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from DeerHauler wrote 5 years 12 weeks ago

it is true they are rarer than albino deer

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from shane wrote 5 years 3 weeks ago

They exist, and are rarer than albinos. In deer, at least.

T is right. They are melanistic. Best examples of this are "black panthers". They're just all black leopards or jaguars. The gene that gives them some black coloration gets overactive and makes them all black.

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from hunterkid94 wrote 4 years 44 weeks ago

very rare.

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from huntcamp wrote 4 years 41 weeks ago

Would be neat to see. seen a couple of albinos and a dozen or so black squirrels.

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from fields wrote 4 years 40 weeks ago

Your lucky to see that! Its like winning the jackpot lottery

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from Big C wrote 4 years 40 weeks ago

never heard of one...very rare and you were probably lucky to have seen one.

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from maj1996 wrote 4 years 37 weeks ago

1 in 100000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000

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from rudyglove27 wrote 4 years 34 weeks ago

You're not crazy but they do exist and they are very rare of their kind!!!!!!

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from WI_Hunter wrote 4 years 27 weeks ago

I saw 2 black deer, doe and fawn, a couples weeks ago. I'm not sure if they were all black, but they were black. When I first saw them running past me at about 30 yards, I thought that they were dogs or wild pigs. But as they ran past, I saw that they were deer with white tails. I was really confused at first because they are either grayish in color or sometimes still redish in the early season. I thought that they might have been dark red, but the more I think about it, the more I am sure that they are black.

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from squirrelhunter7 wrote 4 years 26 weeks ago

Its just like a white deer.

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from PSEbowhunter wrote 4 years 19 weeks ago

they are very rare even more rare than in albino deer

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from whitetailkjf wrote 4 years 18 weeks ago

wowza

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from Blackbuck wrote 4 years 16 weeks ago

The deer you describe is called melanistic coloration. This is caused by the genes that produce brown or black coloration in hair. When certain genes associate in a deer the hair color will be brown or some variation thereof. When genes for producing melanin, a black pigment, predominate a melanistic deer results. A melanistic deer lacks white color in the typical places (eye ring, muzzle ring, throat, and belly) you see in a normal deer, but retain the white flag under the tail. These are rare deer. Usually less than 10 are reported harvested annually in the United States during a hunting season. Most states have no record for a melanistic deer being harvested. Most states with a record are of only one or two animals. Texas is the only state with multiple records. As a matter of fact there is a concentration in central Texas in the Austin-San Antonio area, but melanistic deer are rare there also.
I conduct research on color variation in deer. I would appreciate any information any of you have on melanistic (black), albino or piebald deer.

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from Phazer wrote 4 years 6 weeks ago

Blackbuck-I saw a Black Deer this a.m. in my backyard in Eastern Forsyth county in North Carolina. I never knew they existed. My research on the net found your posting. I will try to get a pic IF I see it again. Good Luck on your research.

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from Thamus wrote 3 years 48 weeks ago

My father claims to have seen them to... Especially in large numbers around the Mt. Morris, New York-Letchworth Park area... Many years ago he worked on the Erie-Lackawanna railroad and would dead-head out to those places. He always thought it was the green beans they ate! Supposedly there were lots of green bean fields (on another note went on how certain companies would come in and get the "pick of the crop" and so forth with lesser companies) and he would see them in there eating the green beans! I loved green beans as a child and would eat them by the fist full... I had deep black hair... So I guess the crazy logic wasn't lost on that old railroad worker!
;-).

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from mshibbins wrote 3 years 24 weeks ago

never heard of one. You are very lucky to have seen one

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from eeyore0274 wrote 3 years 22 weeks ago

A friend of mine almost hit a black deer today on Division St. in Palmyra, NY.

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from GunNut wrote 3 years 16 weeks ago

That would be something I would like to see. All black deer, who would've thought.

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from jrok6661 wrote 3 years 5 weeks ago

There is a .0005% chance of this occurrence. Pretty freaked rare, and really cool. I saw a vid on here with an all white one. That was cool too.

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from Kyle Pountney wrote 2 years 34 weeks ago

less than 1%

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from sassy cowgirl wrote 2 years 21 weeks ago

I was traveling Last week, I was on Rt 219 Headed South from Williamsville NY To Springville NY And as I was approaching the Boston NY Exit... A very large "BLACK BUCK" Crossed 4 lanes about 4 feet in front of my SUV... I slammed on my brakes and shook my head at what I just saw... I am a cowgirl who lives in the country and see deer Everyday, I dodge them all the time, Yet hit at least one a year always doing damage to my vehicle.. Thats how many I am surrounded by.. But I have "Never seen a black buck" Until last week... he was being chased by hunters and was on the run.. But very slow paced... I told my husband when I got home.. and he laughed at me.. (Pissed me right off) I tried explaining what I saw to his hunting buddies and the husband started laughing at me again, which made his hunting buddies all laugh at me too.. making me feel embarrassed.. So I just stopped talking about it and started researching here on the internet and seen pictures of some hunters who have indeed shot them.. Of course I had to show the husband my research and I told him that I will be correcting all of his hunting buddies with my findings and he said "Quote" "I never doubted you" I have just never seen one or ever heard of them before" Yeah Ok.. Change your mind about it now? Whatever!! I love these guys that call themselves "Bigtime Hunters" Yet I have never hunted a day in my life and have to correct them that "Black Bucks" Do exist after all, Now I just pray someone will get lucky and hunt this buck while season is open.. So maybe the local news will have it on for all to see..

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from jcmesq wrote 8 weeks 1 day ago

Not very rare in Harlem!

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from jcmesq wrote 8 weeks 1 day ago

Not very rare in Harlem!

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from T wrote 5 years 13 weeks ago

Yes guys there is all black deer and they are as rare or rarer than a albino or monarch. They are called Melanistic deer and they are black because of something to do in the genes.

-Hope I helped-

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from rjbedrock wrote 5 years 13 weeks ago

I've been hunting upstate New York for 32 years and I've never seen anything close to an all-black deer!
I would say what you saw, is VERY RARE!!!

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from fields wrote 4 years 40 weeks ago

Your lucky to see that! Its like winning the jackpot lottery

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from peter wrote 5 years 12 weeks ago

a back deer seems plausible
and by the way Henry Wefer there are black square

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from DeerHauler wrote 5 years 12 weeks ago

it is true they are rarer than albino deer

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from shane wrote 5 years 3 weeks ago

They exist, and are rarer than albinos. In deer, at least.

T is right. They are melanistic. Best examples of this are "black panthers". They're just all black leopards or jaguars. The gene that gives them some black coloration gets overactive and makes them all black.

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from huntcamp wrote 4 years 41 weeks ago

Would be neat to see. seen a couple of albinos and a dozen or so black squirrels.

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from hunterkid94 wrote 4 years 44 weeks ago

very rare.

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from Big C wrote 4 years 40 weeks ago

never heard of one...very rare and you were probably lucky to have seen one.

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from rudyglove27 wrote 4 years 34 weeks ago

You're not crazy but they do exist and they are very rare of their kind!!!!!!

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from maj1996 wrote 4 years 37 weeks ago

1 in 100000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000

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from WI_Hunter wrote 4 years 27 weeks ago

I saw 2 black deer, doe and fawn, a couples weeks ago. I'm not sure if they were all black, but they were black. When I first saw them running past me at about 30 yards, I thought that they were dogs or wild pigs. But as they ran past, I saw that they were deer with white tails. I was really confused at first because they are either grayish in color or sometimes still redish in the early season. I thought that they might have been dark red, but the more I think about it, the more I am sure that they are black.

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from squirrelhunter7 wrote 4 years 26 weeks ago

Its just like a white deer.

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from PSEbowhunter wrote 4 years 19 weeks ago

they are very rare even more rare than in albino deer

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from whitetailkjf wrote 4 years 18 weeks ago

wowza

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from Thamus wrote 3 years 48 weeks ago

My father claims to have seen them to... Especially in large numbers around the Mt. Morris, New York-Letchworth Park area... Many years ago he worked on the Erie-Lackawanna railroad and would dead-head out to those places. He always thought it was the green beans they ate! Supposedly there were lots of green bean fields (on another note went on how certain companies would come in and get the "pick of the crop" and so forth with lesser companies) and he would see them in there eating the green beans! I loved green beans as a child and would eat them by the fist full... I had deep black hair... So I guess the crazy logic wasn't lost on that old railroad worker!
;-).

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from jcmesq wrote 8 weeks 1 day ago

Not very rare in Harlem!

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from jcmesq wrote 8 weeks 1 day ago

Not very rare in Harlem!

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from Kyle Pountney wrote 2 years 34 weeks ago

less than 1%

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from Blackbuck wrote 4 years 16 weeks ago

The deer you describe is called melanistic coloration. This is caused by the genes that produce brown or black coloration in hair. When certain genes associate in a deer the hair color will be brown or some variation thereof. When genes for producing melanin, a black pigment, predominate a melanistic deer results. A melanistic deer lacks white color in the typical places (eye ring, muzzle ring, throat, and belly) you see in a normal deer, but retain the white flag under the tail. These are rare deer. Usually less than 10 are reported harvested annually in the United States during a hunting season. Most states have no record for a melanistic deer being harvested. Most states with a record are of only one or two animals. Texas is the only state with multiple records. As a matter of fact there is a concentration in central Texas in the Austin-San Antonio area, but melanistic deer are rare there also.
I conduct research on color variation in deer. I would appreciate any information any of you have on melanistic (black), albino or piebald deer.

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from Phazer wrote 4 years 6 weeks ago

Blackbuck-I saw a Black Deer this a.m. in my backyard in Eastern Forsyth county in North Carolina. I never knew they existed. My research on the net found your posting. I will try to get a pic IF I see it again. Good Luck on your research.

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from GunNut wrote 3 years 16 weeks ago

That would be something I would like to see. All black deer, who would've thought.

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from mshibbins wrote 3 years 24 weeks ago

never heard of one. You are very lucky to have seen one

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from eeyore0274 wrote 3 years 22 weeks ago

A friend of mine almost hit a black deer today on Division St. in Palmyra, NY.

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from jrok6661 wrote 3 years 5 weeks ago

There is a .0005% chance of this occurrence. Pretty freaked rare, and really cool. I saw a vid on here with an all white one. That was cool too.

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from sassy cowgirl wrote 2 years 21 weeks ago

I was traveling Last week, I was on Rt 219 Headed South from Williamsville NY To Springville NY And as I was approaching the Boston NY Exit... A very large "BLACK BUCK" Crossed 4 lanes about 4 feet in front of my SUV... I slammed on my brakes and shook my head at what I just saw... I am a cowgirl who lives in the country and see deer Everyday, I dodge them all the time, Yet hit at least one a year always doing damage to my vehicle.. Thats how many I am surrounded by.. But I have "Never seen a black buck" Until last week... he was being chased by hunters and was on the run.. But very slow paced... I told my husband when I got home.. and he laughed at me.. (Pissed me right off) I tried explaining what I saw to his hunting buddies and the husband started laughing at me again, which made his hunting buddies all laugh at me too.. making me feel embarrassed.. So I just stopped talking about it and started researching here on the internet and seen pictures of some hunters who have indeed shot them.. Of course I had to show the husband my research and I told him that I will be correcting all of his hunting buddies with my findings and he said "Quote" "I never doubted you" I have just never seen one or ever heard of them before" Yeah Ok.. Change your mind about it now? Whatever!! I love these guys that call themselves "Bigtime Hunters" Yet I have never hunted a day in my life and have to correct them that "Black Bucks" Do exist after all, Now I just pray someone will get lucky and hunt this buck while season is open.. So maybe the local news will have it on for all to see..

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from Henry Wefer wrote 5 years 14 weeks ago

Yeah, and there aren't any black squirrels either

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from timmy2bears wrote 5 years 14 weeks ago

You are crazy. There are no all-black deer.

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