Just another sign that The End is Near.....

No wonder our kids are walking freak shows with little respect for anything or anyone. I could care less if they respect me personally. But if they only knew what I stand for, the little creeps would fear this old fart more than their tatooed heroes.....

Phil,
I am part of that 18-34 demographic and I couldn't tell you old boy's name either.

I am also a member of the VFW, a serving military member and more like Clint Eastwood's character from Gran Torino! I actually served 4 years in AMERICA'S FIRST TEAM, including a year in Baghdad!!

All of this means I am a very small % of the American Population! Less than 1% the last time I checked! I would agree, "what I like becomes less relevant every day" It shouldn't be, but it is. It makes me mad as H$LL too.

I am not a MMA fan, but I would rather watch it over Golf or Bowling.

Not so sure I would buy the Federal Round either. More of Remington fan, and I reload shotgun and handgun.

I would agree, we need to bring more people into the shooting sports. I invite people every time I head to the range, I hope everyone else does.

I didn't mean to rant!!

Take care Phil!!

V/R

C_S

That guy has got to be the son of my old CSM.
He (the CSM) could freeze water with a single
glance and catch bullets in his teeth.
My question is, why does Brock Lesnar need a gun? Can't he take on a grizzly with a switch?

Insightful comments WA Mtnhunter -- We know about "The Glider Patch".
Inked-up geezers in the woods ? Roids at the range ?
Metaphores are spawning freak shows. What's next,Phil -- a six foot babe and twenty doses of Cialis for my 71st birthday ? Gettin' real, ain't it ?

I am no a big MMA fan, I perfer boxing, but I will watch it every now and then if nothing else is on. As far as buying a product he is selling, I have no porblem with that. I really could care less who endorses a product, I just care if it works.

Don't know about buying bullets but I would purchase primers from him or anyone else as the local shelves and the internet sites are still bare.

I'm a MMA fan, and think it's cool to see Federal getting Lesnar as a spokesperson. Anytime a popular sports figure is publicly supportive of hunting it's a good thing in my book. I agree, that as for buying the product, it's gotta' work, no matter who endorses it.

Phil,
Here's what I know about the Federal Fusion bullet. When they first came out I bought a couple boxes, after sighting in, my son shot a small deer at 20 foot away. Yes, his first deer, with a 150gr Fusion, 30-06. When I heard him shoot I walked to his location. The deer ran 80yds and died. When I showed my son how to dress a deer I noticed there was no exit hole but, on the inside there was no bullet. Only metal fragments and the near side lung gone, luckily. Some will say, well you got your deer, I say no, this semi-premium bullet should have done better. A Power Point or Core Lokt would have done better. I put those bullets away. Still have them if anyone's interested.

Whatever helps the sport we love survive & grow, I'm all for. I'm not a MMA fan, the sport just looks like it hurts more than a 3.5" 12ga Mag turkey load out of my 870 with the standard 1980s butt pad, and that's just about all I can take...But then again, I'm a bit older than the MMA demographic, come to think of it, so is my 870.

Hmm.... It might get more young people and women's attention to hunting and shooting, but I think Ms. Elisa Cuthbert is a helluva lot better looking. That's just an old fart's opinion.(which these days doesn't count for much)

This younger generation coming up now does not believe in institutions, like unions, or organizations. If they believe in anything it is in themselves and people they admire. They are very self-reliant and self-entertaining and are ripe for us bringing them into the fold of gun-ownership, hunting and the outdoors. Many don't have a strong relationship with their Dads so they need a lot of teaching, but be ready to explain "Why?" to them a lot. They've been lied to so much they don't belive in anything they can't verify.
This is the generation that is coming into the military now, and we are having to adapt our methods in order to motivate them properly.
Don't be deceived by their appearance, they are still great Mmericans (and Canadians) under all that hardware, and ink.
Good-on Federal for Bringing Mr. Lesnar aboard. We can use all the new shooters we can get.
The fusion bullet in the 225gr 338 Win Mag load is outstanding on deer. It goes right through, doesn't damage a lot of meat, and the deer never take another step. I've taken two mule-deer does and one white-tail doe in the last two seasons with it, and I say it's outstanding.
If you got the deer, your bullet didn't fail!

Fusion is nothing more than a patent work around of the Speer Hot core.

If Federal really wants to sale me a product, don’t dig up someone up who looks a mass murderer from Maximum Confinement of a Federal Penitentiary, just show me what the product will do at a reasonable price!

I have some ideas for a complete new line of ammo, I’m not going to tell what it is yet alone the name of it and it will blow the socks off the competition!

A couple years ago I had the pleasure to talk one on one with Ted DiBiase the “Million Dollar Man” after he dumped the WWE I found him to be true Gentlemen; will not let even his kids watch smack down and above all? LOVES GOD!

GO FIGURE!

i buy products based on tests and what the gun writers discover when the do the testing not based on what a sports figure or celebrity endorses. i'd hate to lose the elk of a lifetime because brock says it's a superior product. i like the guy but...

I love MMA. I watch the UFC and WEC as much as I can. I think it is a lot more entertaining than boxing and more true fighting than pro wrestling. These guys are tuff! They use 4-6oz gloves just to protect their hands. I've seen lots of one punch knockouts, along with flying knees, spinning backfists and even a roundhouse every now and then. I've always been a big fan of martial arts.

Spokespeople don't influence me to buy products. Test results and experience from people I know influence me to buy products. In my opinion, Federal makes great products.

That being said, I don't think Lesnar or any MMA fighter will prove to be ultimately helpful to Federal. I'm thinking of politics and the campaigns against firearms and ammo in general. You said it yourself - in the hunting industry, MMA is the new NASCAR. And in legislative circles, MMA fans are considered to be the same unsophisticated, backwood redneck types as NASCAR fans.

That's unfair, but it's also political reality.

I'm well aware of who Brock is and I wouldn't buy anything from him that didn't perform, so it's not him selling me the bullet, but it may strike up some intrest with younger folks, esspecially if he's on more hunting showes. I can't remember exactly who, but I think it was brock who got a second chance at an archery buck he stalked......who gets two shots at a quality buck with a bow?

I am one of the "Geezer" Brigade, who does not watch MMA and have not seen him on that show. Having said that I agree with the folks that say if he can interest younger guys in Hunting and shooting sports more power to him and Federal!

You have to admire anyone who puts in the work body building and training to such a level. He may look scary to some but I am sure he is kind to Children, Women and anyone but to his opponents while in the ring.

I will try the Fusion rounds though because of the recommendation of our Hunting writer.

I have no problem with ink(slang for tattoos), MMA or Brock Lesner. Brock was a NCAA wrestling champion while in college. He's earned my respect.

Would You Buy a Bullet From This Man?

Looks just like the fella who I kicked his ass on the 1000 yard line!

I'm not into golf and martinis, but I do like MMA. Personally I've never cared who was selling what products. Knowing gentlemen like Mr. Lesnar walk the planet does have me wondering if my .45 has enough stopping power. Maybe that's the angle?

I liked the line from Federal stating the the Fusion is Pre-programed and Optimized. I guess this make them smarter than the average bullet

Had to see what all the positive and negative
comment was about, so I channel surfed until I found MMA? After I woke up during an infomercial, I decided I like MMA. Sure cure for insomnia.

They are great Americans!

I'm not a fan of MMA at all; I'm a huge fan of football and baseketball. I buy a bullet because of it's purpose and reputation, not who is peddling it. Can this guy actually shoot well? That's what I'd like to know. Federal makes some good rounds in rifle, but I've never tried the fusion. If he appeals to the younger crowd and it encourages them to get into the shooting sports, I'm all for it. Personally, I'll stick to Ted Nugent as a spokesperson.

WA Mtnhunter & duckcreekdick :
Back in the early 60's @ 'Bragg we called garrison caps "Piss-cutters". Still got my khaki one (w/patch ). Up on Smoke Bomb Hill we didn't have the poop re/ the silver dollar.

WA Mtnhunter:
I live on a small farm in NH. Prior to retiring a few years ago, I built Lobster/Tuna boats and my shop was in MA.
I was in the old 77th SFG (ABN) which was located next to the Special Warfare Cntr. on Smokebomb. Stayed in for 6yrs---served with the 10th in Europe and then with the 7th and 5th in other places. Got nicked-up a bit --- medical discharge in '66.
DOL

The folks at Federal will no doubt have thoroughly researched their intended target audience for this endorsement. I find that looking at marketing research and attempting to transpose my own opinions, works less than 50% of the time. I guess we'll see if this is successful. (mind you some marketing genious talked GM into making a Chevette Diesel years ago).
The more concerning question I have is whether you, Phil are in Dave's sandbox here?
Next thing you know he'll be asking a bunch of shiny smoothbore questions.
Thanks!

WA Mtnhunter and Quahog:
I never heard of the silver dollar thing either but by going right from jump school to SF Training Group, I might have missed out on the tradition. I enlisted in 1965 and finished out with the 5th in Bien Hoa. Nice to know there are some old "stand in the door" guys at this website. All the best and have a good July 4th!

Got dinking about this a bit, Federal is targeting a group of people and to do so you got to speak there language.

I don’t know about you folks but a 55 grain .224 diameter screaming along at 3850 fps works darn good on a Monster Mule Deer!

I wonder how that Fusion load would work in both Arctic and Desert conditions?

About Federal ammunition, I’ve shot tons and won a lot of High Power Matches with their 308 Win. (7.62x51mm) Sierra® MatchKing BTHP

When you shooting Big Game out to 700 yards you must be able to hit “MOP” or the size of your fist for varmint hunting. And when you’re competing at 1000 yards, it’s not the score that wins it’s the number of X’s what wins the match. Also the loads must be consistent in all variations of temperatures.

As dead is dead
A bang flop
Is a bang flop
It all depends how much hamburger you want!

“From each according to his abilities, to each according to his needs.”
-Karl Marx

FOOD 2 DINK ABOUT

“I think there is a world market for maybe five computers.”
-Thomas Watson, Chairman of IBM, 1943

If this guy is "badass and edgy" enough for Fusion bullets, who the hell were you supposed to hire for Fail Safes? Godzilla?

I'm well aware of who Brock is and I wouldn't buy anything from him that didn't perform, so it's not him selling me the bullet, but it may strike up some intrest with younger folks, esspecially if he's on more hunting showes. I can't remember exactly who, but I think it was brock who got a second chance at an archery buck he stalked......who gets two shots at a quality buck with a bow?

Bone Daddy

I don't have a score to settle with Fusion nor B.L. and I don't favor Core-Lokt's. I simply stated that they don't shoot as well as some factory C-L's we tried in our rifles.

Nor did I watch the "fight' and I bet my adult son didn't either. I only saw the story on the internet news and checked it out. Tell me that mainstream America favors a scary dude like him endorsing ammunition.

And I bet he didn't bulk up that way without the use of some pharmaceuticals either. Watch the news, it will be revealed sooner or later.

Those Fusion bullets are no faster than any other bullet of similar weigh, shape, and caliber and certainly not as fast as any similar weight boatail spitzers like a Hornady SST or Interbond. Tough I don't have anything to compare it to since I don't shoot them.

Regards,
WMH

Federal is obviously trying to reach a young crowd with their ads and for that they need someone that they identify with. I'm sure that very few young people know Lew Alcindor and what a unbelievable basketball player and human being this man is. Most of these kids don't know what a western movie is. Tattoos are in with the younger crowd, I don't care for them but I,m an old man and no one cares what I think. Marketing says that Lesnar will do the job and maybe he will. We need young blood in our sport. Without the constant influx of youth hunting will die. For quite a few years now our ranks have been shrinking and we are turning out people whose only activity is the computer and gaming and whose lifestyle is supported by whatever they can get from the various government charities. This is a trend that we can change if the outdoors sports become the attraction that they once were. Getting youth to hunting and fish is a step toward making them see what respect and self reliance is all about. Hunting is also hard work and to have our younger people know something about hard work and liking it is a important step to getting our lazy kids back to work. If Lesnar can have a positive influence on any of our youth, I'm all for him.

I am not a MMA fan but would buy some bullets from him. I have not tried the Fusion ammo yet and want to see how it does. His motto should be Buy or Die. That would scare the pants out of some people and they would be afraid not to buy.

I have a wonderful sense of complete ambivalence regarding MMA and whatizname Brock? I have ink though and a few pieces of metal besides, but I wouldn't buy anything because some supposedly celebrated individual reccomends it. If someone I know and respect endorses something I pay attention, but being able to beat people up and having a badly planned tattoo don't make it. Not that I have any problem with beefcake, as long as as bigfoot is on my team anyway. Can he come shovel out my sheep barn?
His tattoo is kinda poorly done, I wondered why the guy had a zipper down his sternum till I realized it was a blade there. Not enough contrast for good blackwork, it winds up having too much of a gangbanga flava for my taste.
As far as bullets go, I've never tried them.

We'll see how long it lasts as the sport gains popularity, but what I like about the UFC is the level of discipline and respect the majority of fighters show. They may run their mouths before the fight like all athletes do, but at the begining and end of the fight they show due respect to their opponent, win or lose. You can't say that about many other mainstream sports.
And like everything else in life, if it's eccentric, it's stupid. Goes for tattoos, piercings, hair color, and clothing style. But a series of tattoos unique to an individual that don't scream for attention is hardly reason for a negative first impression.

Would I buy a bullet hawked by this man? Like anything else I would want to proof it works as claimed, regardless of who's on the cover. You never know, Mr. Petzel might shamelessly endorse a bogus item to get another gold medal stag hunt (or not).